CNN: Is liberal talk radio more powerful than conservative talk radio?
posted at 6:51 pm on October 20, 2009 by Allahpundit
A follow-up to yesterday’s psychotherapy session via Greg Hengler. If you’re measuring political power by the number of alumni who’ve gone on to become senators, then … yeah, I guess they are more powerful. But that dopey metric aside, the question of how much influence Rush and the gang really have over Republican voters is a good one. David Brooks went off about it a few weeks ago — “Over the past few years the talk jocks have demonstrated their real-world weakness time and again” — but Michael Medved was pointing to the electoral impotence of the medium as far back as January 2008, when Maverick was racking up primary win after primary win despite the best efforts of talk radio to paint him as the RINO to end all RINOs. In fact, I’ve always wondered if maybe the reason talk radio stars stay away from running for office is because it would open them up to a direct repudiation at the polls. One of the things that makes Beck an interesting character is that he’s less shy about political participation: Not only is he evidently “building” some sort of outfit, but he’s looking to recruit 56 “re-founders” within Congress to embrace his agenda. If they go down in flames next year — which, admittedly, seems unlikely — then his credibility as the new voice of populist America goes down with them. Pretty gutsy.
Exit question: Wouldn’t a Palin candidacy be the ultimate test of talk radio’s relevance? I can’t think of a single prominent conservative talker who doesn’t adore her. If she, the alleged ultimate “true conservative,” was crushed by Obama in 2012, where would that leave them?
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Not even close.
D2Boston on October 20, 2009 at 6:55 PM
Rush was pretty reluctant to support Palin if my memory serves.
NTWR on October 20, 2009 at 6:56 PM
To quote our esteemed Vice President: “Is this a serious question?”
Red Cloud on October 20, 2009 at 6:56 PM
Wouldn’t Rush be a hilarious press secretary for Palin?
jhffmn on October 20, 2009 at 6:57 PM
NO.
End of subject/thread.
Next topic please.
CPT. Charles on October 20, 2009 at 6:57 PM
Sarcasm?
Red Cloud on October 20, 2009 at 6:57 PM
Compare and contrast their ratings. Then get back to me.
Oh, and who got Van Jones kicked out of the White House?
rbj on October 20, 2009 at 6:57 PM
It’s like comparing Preparation H to hot sauce. Here at Century Village, we get them mixed up sometimes.
Cybergeezer on October 20, 2009 at 6:58 PM
There’s liberal talk radio?
darwin on October 20, 2009 at 6:58 PM
Oh, Allah, why do you bait us so???
No, I don’t think it would be. It would, however, serve to engage people in the process. Just because Rush loves Sarah doesn’t mean all of his listeners do.
(I do, though.)
uncivilized on October 20, 2009 at 6:58 PM
Obama got his mandate by deceiving independents into believing folks like Beck and Limbaugh are paranoid. In 2010 and 2012 this won’t be an option.
AbaddonsReign on October 20, 2009 at 6:59 PM
Well…
Yeah…
I guess so…somewhere…
uncivilized on October 20, 2009 at 6:59 PM
What is this “liberal talk radio” that you speak of…?
Seven Percent Solution on October 20, 2009 at 7:01 PM
The 2008 primary was hardly a result of talk-radio ineffectiveness. McCain got the lowest share of primary votes in ages and still won the nomination.
But then again, when you run against certified losers like Mitt Romney & Mike Huckabee, it doesn’t take much to win.
Norwegian on October 20, 2009 at 7:01 PM
In a mass grave by order of the Obama Administration.
portlandon on October 20, 2009 at 7:01 PM
Rush has never said a bad thing about Sarah though and his listeners think he is right all of the time. I see Allah’s point. Wouldn’t Rush, Levin, Hannity, Glenn be able to convince their audiance that Sarah can win. Rush says all the time that when they go after someone, that is who they are afraid of….wouldn’t most his listeners agree with him?
deidre on October 20, 2009 at 7:02 PM
Medved and Hewitt don’t care for Palin much.
They never come out and say it, but I think they hold her in contempt for her “lack of intellectual curiosity”.
omnipotent on October 20, 2009 at 7:02 PM
Wait! Now I remember … wasn’t the clown Al Franken on radio once? Didn’t it fail miserably?
darwin on October 20, 2009 at 7:03 PM
there is liberal talk radio????
alexraye on October 20, 2009 at 7:03 PM
Don’t bet the farm on it HotAir. The Messiah, Greek Temple and all, and Mrs. Messiah with her $10,000 purse and $300,000 job in a hospital with only 33 beds…will be so hated by real Americans in a couple of years that Bo Jangles could beat this Marxist Nit Wit. Sarah is a true American……….people will see her more and more as the single greatest candidate since the 19th Century. She’ll crush……….and I don’t want to underestimate it, so CRUSH would be better………she’ll CRUSH nit wit Marxist Obama and leave him no choice but to go back to school yards on the South Side and start all over selling crack……..or whatever the Rev. and Billy Boy taught him.
Cinday Blackburn on October 20, 2009 at 7:03 PM
If liberal talk radio is more powerful in any way than conservative it would be because liberal radio listeners will believe absolutely anything, and there is the craziest shiite being played by leftie radio.
Bishop on October 20, 2009 at 7:04 PM
Liberal talk radio….? Is this what Air America used to be?
CNN seems a little anxious about this?
d1carter on October 20, 2009 at 7:04 PM
Many would, but Rush’s listeners (contrary to what the msm wants us to believe) are not total sheep.
Actually, I agree with him about the left’s fear of Palin – and Beck, and Fox News, etc.
uncivilized on October 20, 2009 at 7:05 PM
This is a totally flawed premise, Allah. The question is why folks listen in the first place. And I will guarantee you that most will tell you it is NOT about WHO to vote for. I listen to Rush because he says what I’m thinking. And he’s entertaining while he’s saying it.
Also, the fact that McVain was nominated – does not prove the weakness of talk radio, because if you do your research it wasn’t Conservatives that nominated him. It was open primaries. I, for one, chose to vote in the Dem primary, and screw with them, just like they did us. I wouldn’t have voted for McVain, so screwing with the Dems was the only option for me.
Now if you want better examples of the power of talk radio, look at the Tea Parties (some of which I’d not known about if it weren’t for talk radio), the townhall uprisings – spurred and supported by talk radio. The downing of the Amnesty Bill a couple years ago…spurred on by talk radio.
I personally see right blogs and talk radio in partnership to get me informed and motivated to make phone calls and go to rallies. Weak?? They wish.
tickleddragon on October 20, 2009 at 7:05 PM
I don’t think it is liberal talk radio that has an influence but the liberal press that does.
deidre on October 20, 2009 at 7:05 PM
And, no, I don’t think Rush is right all the time.
uncivilized on October 20, 2009 at 7:06 PM
Everything depends on how valid the election process is. The current DOJ is so corrupt Holder will do everything and anything to make sure elections go the way of the communist democrats.
darwin on October 20, 2009 at 7:07 PM
Not really since many people vote by ‘feel’ and what they hear on the major networks. I still hear people say that Palin is not very bright (fallout from the botched interviews and media demonization) and is too inexperienced.
docdave on October 20, 2009 at 7:07 PM
People like to listen to conservative radio, but they don’t take their marching orders from it. That is not the point of talk radio. The point of talk radio is to get a message out there so that the masses can hear it and reflect on it.
keep the change on October 20, 2009 at 7:07 PM
Is this what CNN is going to do for the next 4 years? Act as offensive linemen for the Obama running game?
Go RBNY on October 20, 2009 at 7:07 PM
I see no unity in your argument, the way 2+2=4. It’s a misnomer.
Talk show hosts do their thing, as is their profession whether chosen, forced, or self-defining. People here elucidate excellent points all the time, but that doesn’t mean they would be excellent politicians. Hosting a media program is one profession, while politics is another. The two don’t have to be congruent to invalidate one or the other. Your assertion, on its face and from the get-go, is invalid, in my view.
Media gain or lose their value by the choices of those who listen, of the populace at large. Rush has ‘power’ and to that he admits in his own way, based on his listenership. If liberal hosts could draw such an audience, they would have ‘power’, too.
It goes back to what has said for 21 years: It’s the people of America who make this country work.
Liam on October 20, 2009 at 7:08 PM
They wouldn’t have to convince their audience of anything. We saw for ourselves what Sarah brought to the table, or rather, campaign. And I think most people saw past the media caricature and liked what they saw.
Sporty1946 on October 20, 2009 at 7:08 PM
That’s it, exactly. The media tells us what it wants us to hear – and doesn’t tell us things that might make us question their accuracy.
uncivilized on October 20, 2009 at 7:08 PM
So rush losses a tone of weight and cnn keeps the old picture. Hmmm
Wingnut on October 20, 2009 at 7:08 PM
If Rush and Beck were not powerfull why do CNN, MSNBC and the White House always try to discredit them? Why are they always in the news?
The Notorious G.O.P on October 20, 2009 at 7:09 PM
Basically NPR? I guess?
TheUnrepentantGeek on October 20, 2009 at 7:09 PM
Your memory has forsaken you.
Amadeus on October 20, 2009 at 7:09 PM
If liberal talk radio is so powerful why does it need subsidies, and why would liberals want the Fairness Doctrine?
fourdeucer on October 20, 2009 at 7:09 PM
Yep, don’t forget “Operation Chaos”, which played a large part in keeping Hillary alive throughout the primaries.
I was disgusted with the Republican field (as was much of Talk Radio), that more energy was spent on the Democratic primary. Of course, Obama still won, but “Operation Chaos” was a success regardless.
Norwegian on October 20, 2009 at 7:09 PM
Nice qualifier there. Sometimes, I don’t think he’s right either. Then later I am shown to be incorrect.
Sporty1946 on October 20, 2009 at 7:11 PM
If I ever took marching orders, I took those. But it wasn’t following a leader, as much, taking the leader’s idea and thinking it was just cool enough to be fun. :)
tickleddragon on October 20, 2009 at 7:12 PM
McCain was winning plurality votes with crossover dems and independents. Evangelicals falling for Huckleberry’s shtick killed any chance of a conservative candidate. They should have reviewed how he governed Arkansas.
aigle on October 20, 2009 at 7:13 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHA! That was awesome.
tickleddragon on October 20, 2009 at 7:13 PM
Well, there was also the amnesty debate back in the summer of 2007. Talk radio 1, moderates 0.
ddrintn on October 20, 2009 at 7:13 PM
I also think talk radio has a huge role in this health care debate as well.
deidre on October 20, 2009 at 7:16 PM
Absolutely. Talk radio and blogs.
ddrintn on October 20, 2009 at 7:17 PM
Beat me to it. Where is this liberal talk radio of which you speak, AP?
NoLeftTurn on October 20, 2009 at 7:18 PM
Who? and Who?
joe_doufu on October 20, 2009 at 7:18 PM
McCain’s lost in the general speaks of talk radois power. they were not behind him. they hedged their talking points. The praised Palin but not McCain. and McCain lost by a wide electoral margin. In 2000 and 2004 on the other hand talk radio was fully behind Bush and the gOp and they won both elections by wide maargins. 2006 the talk radio started to go against the gop on immigration, dubai ports, spending, the war etc and the GOP lost control of the house and senate.
2006 and 2008 the base left the GOP and one of the main reasons the base left is because talk radio turned on the RINOs in the GOP. Now that is power.
unseen on October 20, 2009 at 7:18 PM
Well that would make Obaman and the Left really, really stupid for spend so my energy, time and money trying to destroy it.
How out of touch do you have to be to think conservative talk radio is politically impotent? How short a memory do you have to have? I guess short enough to forget who defeated amnesty.
TheBigOldDog on October 20, 2009 at 7:21 PM
Yeah, but it wasn’t talk radio’s fault that Bush turned into the king of the RINOs. All they did was spread the word.
joe_doufu on October 20, 2009 at 7:21 PM
another odd, convoluted Thread About Nothing based on a rhetorical question and Allah’s growing Audience Envy
How many times does it need to be said: There is no liberal talk radio except bits of government-supported crap here and there
Janos Hunyadi on October 20, 2009 at 7:22 PM
Actually it is about ratings and money.
CWforFreedom on October 20, 2009 at 7:22 PM
2009 — Rise of the Independents.
John the Libertarian on October 20, 2009 at 7:23 PM
My question is… Who listens to CNN
iceman1960 on October 20, 2009 at 7:23 PM
Absolutely right the metric should be who has the largest audience and who gets the most advertising dollars.
fourdeucer on October 20, 2009 at 7:24 PM
Well said, Talk Radio informs us and lets us decide what to do with that info. Your Reader’s Digest version is spot on.
thomasaur on October 20, 2009 at 7:24 PM
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That’s a helluva rich comment from someone who hides behind a nom de plume.
And if you ever really listened to Rush, you would know that he doesn’t endorse in the primaries. And the best he could say about McCain (Yosemite Sam) was that we would have to drag him across the finish line, which was pretty much true.
BigD on October 20, 2009 at 7:25 PM
I believe McCain lost by his own effort, or lack thereof. He didn’t have much fondness for his running mate, for openers.
Talk radio only puts out ideas, points of debate. And, truly, every rightist host wanted the Republicans to win. Talk radio didn’t lose the WH or Congress for the Republicans. The RNC lost it for itself and We the People. They put up McCain, for Chrissake! That was the loser right there, not some radio host. It’s like saying that Don Imus’ nasty comment about girl’s basketball made Eminem become a Rapper.
Liam on October 20, 2009 at 7:25 PM
Yeah… Janeane Garofalo on Air America really crushed all competitors!
IntheNet on October 20, 2009 at 7:26 PM
You’re right. It was McCain he was reluctant about supporting. I keep forgetting Palin was running for Veep since Teh One was campaigning directly against her instead of McCain.
NTWR on October 20, 2009 at 7:27 PM
GW was always a RINO and were it not for 9/11 we would have been fighting Immigration reform sooner and Dubai Ports would have slid through due to our lack of concern pre-9/11. IMHO
thomasaur on October 20, 2009 at 7:27 PM
As the topic suggests it depends on the metric. Liberal talk radio hardly exists. In radio listenership it is no more than a rounding error.
Mason on October 20, 2009 at 7:27 PM
Yeah… Janeane Garofalo on Air America really crushed all competitors!
IntheNet on October 20, 2009 at 7:26 PM
Well, she does have a face made for radio and a voice made for silent movies.
kingsjester on October 20, 2009 at 7:28 PM
Yeah, but it wasn’t talk radio’s fault that Bush turned into the king of the RINOs. All they did was spread the word.
joe_doufu on October 20, 2009 at 7:21 PM
I agree. What i am trying to say is that the power of talk radio has always been with the base. Talk radio gets the base up and out the door to the ballot box. The power of talk radio is not seen in a dem/rino election because Talk radio’s listeners are the base who could not care a bit about a RINO/lib election. Thus the power of talk radio is not seen in an election like McCain/Obama. It will however been seen in a Palin(or a conservative)/Obama election.
Talk radio personilities have an audience of conservatives and thus they have power over the CONSERVATIVE base. Sure they help say some fence sitters but they mainly fire up the base, GOTV, raise funds for the canidates and can sink a RINO if they urge the base to stay home. And the elites in the media and GOP have once again failed to grasp the basic math that without the base the GOP is doomed to destruction. thus talk radio is one of the most powerful cards for the GOP to win elections if the GOP embraces talk radio.
It is telling that McCain campign never reasched out to the talkers during the campiagn, didn’t allow Palin to go on Rush, Hannity etc to get their view out. The elites basically took the base and the talkers fro granted and the results at the polls showed what that did
unseen on October 20, 2009 at 7:28 PM
It doesn’t. The minute after McCain picked her as the VP Rush went on the air and went on and on over what spectacular move “John McGenius” made with the Palin pick. He had hated McCain prior, but was all-in from then on.
CreatedOrSaved on October 20, 2009 at 7:30 PM
If there is liberal talk radio I certainly have never run across it here in Texas.
Anders on October 20, 2009 at 7:31 PM
People like Soros got Franken his seat in congress not his stent on Air America.
Ask the average person what Air America is and they’ll think your talking about some commercial airline.
iceman1960 on October 20, 2009 at 7:31 PM
The real question is “Does conservative radio have better bumper music than liberal radio?” Seriously this question is about as relevant.
Talk radio hosts are not our leaders, they are our amplifiers and those we pay to entertain and research issues. When we discuss the power of talk radio as the vehicle for selecting candidates we automatically buy in to the liberal notion that we’re just a bunch of “mind numbed robots.”
I would be willing to guess that those who comment on this site listen to talk radio to learn but have never listened to get marching orders. The reason we got McCain has less to do with conservative talk show hosts than it does with serious blunders. We allowed things like open primaries, white guilt, a liberal press and idiotic RINOs and blue blood republicans to select McCain and as a consequence select Obama.
Conservative talk radio is powerful when it illuminates the information liberals want to hide. It is weak when it tries to tell its listeners who they should endorse.
Mormon Doc on October 20, 2009 at 7:31 PM
You’re right. It was McCain he was reluctant about supporting. I keep forgetting Palin was running for Veep since Teh One was campaigning directly against her instead of McCain.
NTWR on October 20, 2009 at 7:32 PM
Talk radio only puts out ideas, points of debate. And, truly, every rightist host wanted the Republicans to win. Talk radio didn’t lose the WH or Congress for the Republicans. The RNC lost it for itself and We the People. They put up McCain, for Chrissake! That was the loser right there, not some radio host. It’s like saying that Don Imus’ nasty comment about girl’s basketball made Eminem become a Rapper.
Liam on October 20, 2009 at 7:25 PM
Yes it was McCain’s vault because for among other reasons he didn’t use the power of talk radio. It is an instrument to exicte the voters. Simply because McCain failed to use the power of the conservative radio does not mean that conservative radio has no power. that’s like saying the flashlight with a fully charged battery is useless because you failed to turn the switch on.
unseen on October 20, 2009 at 7:32 PM
I don’t accept the argument Rush ‘hated’ McCain.
Liam on October 20, 2009 at 7:33 PM
Hugh Hewitt? Although, he likes Mrs. Palin…I think we all know the primaries he’ll be rooting for Mitt Romney.
terryannonline on October 20, 2009 at 7:34 PM
I’ve never encountered it even here in Los Angeles. Maybe it’s happening on one of the Spanish-language stations, though?
joe_doufu on October 20, 2009 at 7:34 PM
CNN, following Obama’s marching orders.
Tomorrow’s topic …….
“Fox News, Real News or Big Piles of Crap?”
fogw on October 20, 2009 at 7:34 PM
You’re a bit late on this one AP. Do you recall the last Republican primary? Every prominant conservative talker and most prominant conservative web sites (NRO, AmSpec) were shilling for Romney–particularly when the Florida primary was about to occur–because none wanted McCain as the candidate. And look what happened. The test has already occurred.
This doesn’t mean that conservative talk radio is not influential. Talk radio serves a great purpose, especially when it comes to blocking bad legislation (McCain/Kennedy, Obamacare) or the appointment of a questionable judge (Harriet Miers). Light up Congress’s switchboards and they’ll listen. But come election time, the masses who don’t listen to talk radio, or barely pay attention to politics, get their say, which undermines the significance ot talk radio’s reach.
Erich66 on October 20, 2009 at 7:35 PM
And I can’t think of a single conservative talker that didn’t support Romney in ’08. Oh, well, except Medved.. who supported McCain.
Conservative talkers, as well as their ideologically compatible listeners, want Reagan. They want Friedman. They want Justice Thomas. They want Newt Gingrich c. 1994.
They want cajones. Right now, the only people out there with any are women like Palin and Bachmann.
I want Calvin Coolidge.
spmat on October 20, 2009 at 7:35 PM
Exit question #2: Will Allahpundit put an additional poster of Mitt Romney on the ceiling over his bed?
Dr. Carlo Lombardi on October 20, 2009 at 7:38 PM
So CNN is saying that Rush listeners aren’t mind numbed robots.
iceman1960 on October 20, 2009 at 7:38 PM
Libs want power and control and lefty talk radio delivers neither. That’s why they go into politics.
Monica on October 20, 2009 at 7:38 PM
Yeah, sometimes it takes a while for that “ah ha!!” moment to happen…
uncivilized on October 20, 2009 at 7:39 PM
I see talk radio’s power resting with the listenership. Rush can put out all the ideas he wants, but if no one is listening…
While I’ll see your point and it’s a good one, I rest that the true power is with the people. Talk radio is merely a source of ideas, old and hopefully new.
I think it’s an exclusively liberal notion that talk show hosts are the ones with power, when even their John ‘The Baptist’ Lennon sang Power to the People. I see no media pundit having any power unless those who listen there give it.
Just a debate of ideas, if you will, please.
Liam on October 20, 2009 at 7:39 PM
They want cajones. Right now, the only people out there with any are women like Palin and Bachmann.
I want Calvin Coolidge.
spmat on October 20, 2009 at 7:35 PM
And Chenny. Liz that is.
the GOP’s alphs males are all women. where are the men like Ike or Reagan or even Truman. Could you imagine Obam dropping the bomb on Japan in 1945? he would take about 2 years to make up his mind. We are so screwed as a nation. are leaders are clueless idiots that can’t make a decsion without checking with pollsters on every word of the answer.
unseen on October 20, 2009 at 7:40 PM
To this day, I fail to see the conservative fascination with Mitt Romney. He has his good points – he’s at least got some real business savvy – but, really, he’s not much more than McCain with better hair.
I’m afraid he’s un-electable…
uncivilized on October 20, 2009 at 7:41 PM
people, I believe AP is a plant. We all agree he’s not a conservative but I don’t think he’s even a RINO. I believe he wanted this blogging gig due to financial reasons and had to camouflage his beliefs but I guess what was supposed to be a temporal situation became permanent as his plans to revive his old blogging site did not materialize. This guy attacks every conservative out there; Sarah Palin, Mike Huckabee, Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, Sean Hannity, Senator Demint, Marco Rubio etc just to name a few. If you doubt think of any solid conservative outside the ones I just named and search his archives, if he’s written about them, chances are it’s a negative comment; anyone see a pattern here? I really do pity the guy, can you imagine as a conservative waking up every day to put up a facade as a liberal to blog for say the Daily kos because you need the dough? I couldn’t do that, I’d rather work for ACORN
julian on October 20, 2009 at 7:42 PM
Christ himself could not have turned the tide for republicans in 08 but I would like to ask if anyone remembers the effort Rush started to keep Clinton in the race for the democrat nomination….. I suspect he helped her efforts in several states
Aggie95 on October 20, 2009 at 7:42 PM
Pfft, even if everyone who listened to Rush voted and voted for the same candidate it would be way short of the number of votes it takes to win a national election on the order of 3x or more.
clement on October 20, 2009 at 7:43 PM
Just a debate of ideas, if you will, please.
Liam on October 20, 2009 at 7:39 PM
Agreed. I enjoy talk radio. But if rush came out tommorrow and started saying how we need to embrace leftist thinking i would turn him off. It is almost liek a fun three hours of learning. see how conservative ideals can be put in place for today’s problems. And also how to see thru the leftists aims.
For instance Beck tying gun ownership to healthcare yesterday was like a blow to the forehead. Makes perfect sense why the left would start having studies on the health effects of gun ownerdship IRt to obamacare.
unseen on October 20, 2009 at 7:44 PM
Cnn interviews some local radio host I’ve never heard of because they are afraid of Rush and the real movers and shakers. They may have difficulty making their points talking to more experienced talkers also.
As to the power of Rush? Ask Hillary.
mad scientist on October 20, 2009 at 7:46 PM
Allahpundit is a conservative. He’s just not going to be a cheerleader for Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Rush Limbaugh, etc.
terryannonline on October 20, 2009 at 7:46 PM
The election of 2012 is still long away, and whom will get the talk show nod then is about as relevant as the rainfall level in Utah in 1893.
If a true consevative is not elected in ’12, or even a more conservative congress in ’10, your question is moot.
The non-approved talkers gone. The non-approved blogs gone. The non-approved lives gone.
America, as we know her, gone.
TXUS on October 20, 2009 at 7:46 PM
EXACTLY.
tickleddragon on October 20, 2009 at 7:46 PM
There’s liberal talk radio?
deedtrader on October 20, 2009 at 7:46 PM
Ah, but, whether by accident or design (I lean toward the latter) it does keep us conservatives united, doesn’t it?
Liam on October 20, 2009 at 7:47 PM
I know just as many people who don’t listen to Rush as people that do – in fact, maybe more. Many of them are traditional, conservative Republicans who actually read, and pay attention to, the issues.
I listened to Glenn Beck reading a commentary from someone who stated the one thing that the rest of the pundits are afraid to say – Obama wasn’t elected for what he’s done, but rather what he IS. No amount of liberal radio could do for him what a few years as a community organizer from Thug City – who happens to be African American – did.
uncivilized on October 20, 2009 at 7:47 PM
julian on October 20, 2009 at 7:42 PM
I see him more has a neoconservative. Who came to the GOp more do to 9/11 than anything else. But that is his NYC worldview and he is to the right of most NYC. however is is to the left of a large section of flyover country. He believes his worldview is agreed with by more people because of his daily uptake of the NY-DC media and social norms. He sees the argument form flyover country her just doesn’t believe there is enough voters to win with that worldview. I.e he agrees with the DC elites.
unseen on October 20, 2009 at 7:48 PM
the liberal press usurps lib radio by far
cmsinaz on October 20, 2009 at 7:50 PM
An old ploy, first done years ago with a CDC ‘study’. Same old hat–worn, limp, faded, and haggard by years of rain. Another appeal to revive part of their base and, hopefully, gain new and unknowing independents on their side.
With 240 million guns in private hands, it won’t go far.
Liam on October 20, 2009 at 7:50 PM
I not only remember Operation Chaos, I took part.
tickleddragon on October 20, 2009 at 7:51 PM
Where are the Liberal talk radio superstars? The only semi-national talk radio I have heard of is Air America; they have been marginally surviving, not prospering and getting rich like some conservative talkers.
How does the lack of a national network or recognizable names make Liberal talk radio more powerful?
It sucks when you can’t tell the news apart from SNL.
mad scientist on October 20, 2009 at 7:52 PM
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