http://www.nationalreview.com/nr_comment/nr_comment072203c.asp

How many rank ‘n file conservatives knew that David Keene, was the “pay to play” guy, the wolf in conservative dress, the Quisling of the Conservative movement? How many knew he was in Arlen Spectre’s vest-pocket? How many knew he was tossing the left’s grenades at Sarah Palin — and, under whose political banner was he attacking her?

Today, many more conservatives know about Keene’s lack of character(political, psychological & philosophical) thanks to a reporter, who did his job and illuminated the frauds perp’d by David Keene, and his cohorts at ACU.

Either we have ideologically consistant conservatives in the leadership positions at our Shop, or we don’t. If not, let’s not fool ourselves into believing that our “Conservative Movement” will be able to defeat the Socialist & Fascist forces that are massing against US. It’s time to clear the decks of the poseurs and prepare for the battles ahead — commission conservative officers, who we can trust to lead our political charge, up a very steep hill…

“Let’s Roll”

There are several inconsistencies by Keene that should be resolved by an outside party: I signed this on 7/15 but it was dated 7/1, I was for NRLB with Fedex but against UPS’s desire to apply NRLB to Fedex.

Maybe, just maybe it’s time for Keene to consider an upgrade to retirement and have someone less “inconsistent” take his place.

Just one man’s opinion.

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WWS: Keene admits that Arlen is a friend,the question is,
did Keene,write a chegue to Specter,yes or no!:)

canopfor on October 20, 2009 at 10:01 AM

Keene gave a total of $2000 to Specter’s campaign in 2007. http://www.campaignmoney.com/political/contributions/david-keene.asp?cycle=08

I won’t support CPAC as long as they have ties with Keene.

I’ve got a big problem with Keene’s adoration of Arlen Specter

WWS on October 20, 2009 at 9:56 AM

WWS: Keene admits that Arlen is a friend,the question is,
did Keene,write a chegue to Specter,yes or no!:)

canopfor on October 20, 2009 at 10:01 AM

I don’t so easily dismiss who ones friends are, it says quite it a bit about a person.
I wonder who is other friends are. I think this Keene guy is a flake, ziegler is normal upstanding very brave right-winger media person, your just not use to seeing it to often.
He should go forth and continue the ass kicking tour.

My second point would follow up on what I posted yesterday regarding this “interview.” It’s plain to see that Mr. Ziegler did not ask anything–he ranted and raved while keeping the microphone quite clear of Mr. Keene, who was therefore powerless to respond. Nice tactics, those!

Ed’s final point regarding the reprimand of Mr. Whitfield is probably his best, though. Even if Mr. Keene was not at fault, it does take a serious lapse of judgment for Mr. Whitfield to issues such an unethical statement. Not knowing more of the circumstances, however, I’d be a tad more reluctant to call for heads to roll. I mean, have conservatives become the new Jacobins or something?

Ziegler goes over the top sometimes, as with his going on about Couric and Palin, which was a disaster for Palin because Palin simply wasn’t prepared well for the interview, but the main thrust of his film he made was correct: the News Media was a willing tool of the Obama Campaign.

You don’t have to believe that. But that’s the way it is. Proof of the pudding? Axelrod, Plouffe and Dunn are now conducting an agitprop campaign against FOX News which, unlike Palin, has the resources to defend itself. Ziegler was right the first time-it’s just that nobody was in a mood last year to listen.

Ziegler is running the risk of becoming a flake. . . . . The other thing is that all of the Republican upper leaders have been there a long time and seem to not have learned very much. Keene is a good example.

inspectorudy on October 20, 2009 at 11:34 AM

Whether or not John Ziegler comes off as a flake is not the issue, or even an issue, for me. Whether “conservative” leaders are working the ‘pay to play’ system is not “the other thing”, it is the issue here. I could care less whether Ziegler is polite. I want the corruptocrats exposed and gone.

To be fair, he wants to correct the historical record

Yeah, that cracked me up. He wanted to “correct the historical record.” WTF does that mean? What exactly needed correcting that’s a matter of historical record? Are people claiming Rush Limbaugh interviewed Palin, not Couric?

What Zeigler and Palin hard liners don’t or can’t acknowledge is that it wasn’t Couric who was responsible for Palin coming off like an amateur, it was Palin. The questions Couric asked were not all that challenging. Even if you made the case that democrats were asked easier questions (I’m not conceding that point), the questions weren’t that difficult. Palin’s poor and sometimes incoherent answers did her in. This is not just the opinion of liberals, there are many conservatives (of course, they’re not REAL conservatives if they have this opinion… I know) who believe Palin was in way over her head.

Then John should stop talking about Sarah Palin and get on with asking these questions. IMO, he went down a rat hole where reasonable people can disagree about Palin’s political strategy when the real red meat in this interview should have been about the FedEx debacle. IMO, loving or not loving Palin should not become a litmus test for conservatism (I personally like her, but think it’s very reasonable for other conservatives to dislike her).

To be fair, he wants to correct the historical record about Palin and the way she was treated in the 2008 election by the media (egregious misquotes, attacks on family etc) I’m sure your personal opinion about her doesn’t matter whatever it may be.

People are free to disagree with John’s tactics, as both of these fine bloggers do. But at least John is still asking the question, and we should at least make an effort to get some real answers.

Then John should stop talking about Sarah Palin and get on with asking these questions. IMO, he went down a rat hole where reasonable people can disagree about Palin’s political strategy when the real red meat in this interview should have been about the FedEx debacle. IMO, loving or not loving Palin should not become a litmus test for conservatism (I personally like her, but think it’s very reasonable for other conservatives to dislike her).

I hear you. However, I will be trying to eradicate extreme poverty & hunger :)

faraway on October 20, 2009 at 10:03 AM

Give it up. The Nobel has already been awarded to another dreamer.

Western_Civ on October 20, 2009 at 10:39 AM

Happiness is an illusion.

This whole thing is a cat fight in an animal shelter. The problem is, after wading through most of the linked articles, that two different government agencies RLA/NLRB regulating competing industries and labor groups, have created conflicting regulations that hinder one special interest group to the detriment of another while losing sight of what is in the best interests of the nation.

In pursuit of special interest, favored treatment, money changes hands, and government becomes even more corrupt.

Y’all are focused on one guy or two guys when government, and the pursuit of favored treatment by a corrupt government is the real issue here.

The fact is that John is doing the same work that recently went on at ACORN, cleaning out the corruption so the Conservatives can go forward. May the disinfection continue!