War: New Club for Growth ad hits liberal Republican Scozzafava
posted at 5:59 pm on October 19, 2009 by Allahpundit
If you missed our backgrounder on the NY-23 special election over the weekend, read it now, because we’re inching ever closer to a full-on civil war among big-name Republicans here. This new ad buy from the CFG adds another $300,000 to the $300,000 they’ve already sunk into Doug Hoffman’s campaign to match the $567,000 that Scozzafava’s received from the NRCC. Dick Armey’s on his way to the district to campaign for Hoffman as the “true conservative” choice; meanwhile, Peter King’s endorsing Scozzafava in the interest of party unity:
In a statement, King made the case that voting for Hoffman will only help Democrat Bill Owens win.
“Dede is the only Republican candidate in this race, and the only candidate with a proven record that Republicans can trust in Washington,” King said. “A vote for either of her opponents is a vote for Nancy Pelosi and her far-left, radical agenda.”
Not surprisingly, the CFG ad invokes the specter of Madam Speaker as a chief reason not to vote for Scozzafava. King’s not blowing smoke, though: As noted in Saturday’s post, Scozzafava led until Hoffman started surging, and now the Democrat’s up by a few points as GOP voters split between the two of them. Exit question via Stacy McCain: Why hasn’t Sarahcuda endorsed Hoffman yet? Doing so would irritate and potentially alienate the national leadership, but if she’s serious about fashioning herself as the “true conservative” outsider, here’s a golden opportunity. Maybe she figures it’s too much of a gamble for too little gain? If she shows up to stump for Hoffman and he loses, it’s a blow to her prestige. She’s probably just playing it safe.
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Ask yourself this: Who would David Frum support?
Then vote for the other guy.
Norwegian on October 19, 2009 at 6:01 PM
You can’t win if you don’t fight.
faraway on October 19, 2009 at 6:02 PM
Conservatives have to beat the Whigs before they can take on the socialists. In the next couple of election cycles, that is the battle that matters, to identify the Opposition to socialism.
Bring it on! time to take down the Whigs.
james23 on October 19, 2009 at 6:03 PM
Note to tne NRC folks who stop by here. But out of the primaries. Just this one election cycle, let the voters pick the candidates.
I will not give one cent to the GOP until they swear off spending the money to oppose fellow conservatives in primaries.
hawksruleva on October 19, 2009 at 6:03 PM
People make the assumption Sarah is running….The real question actually, why hasn’t Sarah endorsed him, its why hasn’t Romney or Huckleberry endorsed him?
Conservative Voice on October 19, 2009 at 6:03 PM
Nice.
Theworldisnotenough on October 19, 2009 at 6:05 PM
I don’t get how, given the grassroots backlash to President Obama’s policies, the GOP could possibly fathom endorsing someone who’s to the left of just about everyone but the House Progressive Caucus.
It makes me glad I’ve never given them a single penny in contributions.
BadgerHawk on October 19, 2009 at 6:06 PM
Hate it when fingers aren’t keeping up…
People make the assumption that Sarah is running…The real question actually, isn’t why hasn’t Sarah endorsed him, its why hasn’t Romney or Huckleberry endorsed him?
Conservative Voice on October 19, 2009 at 6:06 PM
Ordinarily I’m all for voting strategically, but I’m with the Club for Growth on this one.
Given that scuzzyfava’s spouse is a Union Organizer, her presence would be poison in the House. I never thought I would say this, but I would rather see the Democrat win than see someone like this get in under the GOP banner. At least a Democrat would be voting honestly.
WWS on October 19, 2009 at 6:08 PM
+1
GT on October 19, 2009 at 6:09 PM
That’s a possibility. But it may simply be that it’s not on her radar. The areas where she’s been focusing lately are those of a more national tilt: energy policy, health care, cap and trade, etc. As far as her opportunity to distinguish herself as the “outside” choice, there will be plenty more opportunities closer to 2012, should she choose to run. To try to make a “statement” in the NY-23 Cong. district election would seem to be a small stage to make a big statement.
Weight of Glory on October 19, 2009 at 6:09 PM
Good question. But we know the answer, why run afoul of GOP machine politics? They will need them for a national campaign.
The GOP just does not get it. We tea partiers need to just start sinking candidates like Scozzafava. Enough of that and people likle Scozzafav will run as a Dem leaving the field clear for Hoffman. Specter did it. Maybe that is jthe new two election cycle gameplan?
Theworldisnotenough on October 19, 2009 at 6:09 PM
Scozzafava needs to withdraw from the race. Period. There is no excuse for liberal trash running for the GOP. If they can’t get their heads out of their a$$es, then the dem win will be on them.
Let the GOP get the message now, before it’s too late. The message is much more important than the NY-23 seat.
progressoverpeace on October 19, 2009 at 6:10 PM
WAKE UP GOP! Do you hear us? This is WHAZZ UP.
txag92 on October 19, 2009 at 6:10 PM
It’s certainly possible for a candidate of the Conservative Party of New York State to win, as in the 1970 election for United States Senator:
James L. Buckley (Conservative) 38.8%
Richard Ottinger (Democratic) 36.8%
*Charles Goodell (Republican) 24.3%
*incumbent
Emperor Norton on October 19, 2009 at 6:10 PM
Good ad.
As a conservative, I could not bring myself to vote for anyone who receives a Margaret Sanger award.
As for the exit question, maybe remaining silent on candidates is part of the plan pre-book release. When she hits the talk circuit, Sarah will want to talk about her book and her ideas, not one race in NY.
NebCon on October 19, 2009 at 6:10 PM
If Sarah’s not running, all the more reason for her to come down and campaign, since the main downside is irking the party regulars.
I love to see Republicans forming the traditional Democratic circular firing squad.
Campaign committees, by the way, get measured y how many D’s or R’s they put in seats, and there is no bonus for ideological purity. Rahm helped bring all those Blue Dogs to the House. They’re a pain, but they’re better than Republicans. But if you guys want to get all purist, go ahead.
Bleeds Blue on October 19, 2009 at 6:10 PM
The only candidate with a proven record that Republicans can trust. Pro-abort, Pro-big government, Pro-big spending, maybe she is Pro-military but I have no way on knowing that. Since this is the ideal republican according to NRCC and the Party elite I’m glad I left the GOP in 2002.
chemman on October 19, 2009 at 6:11 PM
How did a NY-23 special election become a national issue? Let people in the district decide.
DanStark on October 19, 2009 at 6:14 PM
If she is worried about playing it safe then she should quit politics altogether. With the way she is treated nothing she does is going to be safe. It will all have a risk to it. She needs to just do it.
Mark1971 on October 19, 2009 at 6:16 PM
I like that gameplan. We need to keep Scozzafava and others like her honest, a tall order in the political arena in the best of time.
gryphon202 on October 19, 2009 at 6:16 PM
Say NO to Scozzafava!
I AGAIN have to remind people lessons learned from the recent TN election:
Enoxo on October 19, 2009 at 6:18 PM
I feel this way, too, but the NRCC made it a national issue when they started bankrolling the liberal Republican candidate with money raised from donors nationwide.
joe_doufu on October 19, 2009 at 6:18 PM
HEAR! HEAR!
KickandSwimMom on October 19, 2009 at 6:21 PM
my pick for threadwinner
:-)
cmsinaz on October 19, 2009 at 6:21 PM
What else is the National Republican Congressional Committee supposed to do besides bankroll the
candidate?
Bleeds Blue on October 19, 2009 at 6:21 PM
Wasn’t the establishment GOP responsible for putting McCain up as our man for POTUS?
It sounds like the RNC, NRCC, Gingrich, et al, have forgotten that lesson and are pining for another Arlen Sphincter.
Kini on October 19, 2009 at 6:21 PM
ding ding ding…that’s why that haven’t received any monies from me in the last few years…
cmsinaz on October 19, 2009 at 6:23 PM
Note to Republicans, the “you have to vote for the R because the D is much worse” is not an effective strategy. Democrat-lite is still Democrat.
rbj on October 19, 2009 at 6:23 PM
Bleeds Blue on October 19, 2009 at 6:10 PM
I won’t pretend to speak for Sarah Palin. But my guess is she recognizes that right now her numbers are low…and that if she campaigns for him then that might hurt his chances…it might be because she is not interested in campaigning for anyone…rather she just wants to be a persuasive voice…I don’t know…
What I do know is that you also are more concerned with what Sarah does and doesn’t do, yet ignore completely two supposedly conservatives that are higher in the polls…Romney and Huck.
Conservative Voice on October 19, 2009 at 6:23 PM
NRCC helps out candidates of the Republican party. The “Republican party” means many different things depending on your geographical location. Are people here willing to start attacking farm subsidy Republicans in the Mid-west? Scozzafava is from New York people, not Idaho.
DanStark on October 19, 2009 at 6:24 PM
Remember,it take a special kind of deviant satanic soul to be pro-abortion. It doesn’t matter the political party name.
Jeff from WI on October 19, 2009 at 6:25 PM
Peter King needs to cowboy up and go rogue. Scozzafava is a bad idea. May as well have a real Democrat.
marybel on October 19, 2009 at 6:26 PM
I’m tired of RINOs and Democrats running as Republicans… I sent Hoffman money and I hope he wins. Scozza is not Conservatve and we don’t need more Snowes or Collins in Congress. I think we need to get on with this war. It’s just not worth it to accept fake Republicans anymore. As for Sarah, has Hoffman asked her to campaign for him? I bet if he did she would. Sarah doesn’t do things based on what is good for her personally, she does things based on what is best for the US
CCRWM on October 19, 2009 at 6:27 PM
Cuda doesn’t know the meaning of safe.
She just needs to show up in Hoffman’s district for a couple of campaign stops. Getting 20,000 people to show up just might get Hoffman elected.
That would show McDonnell and Christie up as the sissies they are. Maybe then they each would get a pair and ask Sarah to campaign with them.
huckleberryfriend on October 19, 2009 at 6:28 PM
Until we know the answer to the question “Has the Hoffman campaign requested her assistance?”, then the analysis is moot. And if the answer is “no”, then we know why she hasn’t spoken up here.
thirteen28 on October 19, 2009 at 6:28 PM
Espouse a belief in ideas rather than group affiliations? I know that’s a toughie for the identity politics party to grasp, but there really is a larger issue here than the tribal squabbles you’re used to adjudicating over there on the left.
TheUnrepentantGeek on October 19, 2009 at 6:29 PM
Sheesh – Sarah Palin could come walk my dogs and that would set her apart from the GOP establishment, too.
CK MacLeod on October 19, 2009 at 6:30 PM
Unfortunately, the power of Congress has become so great that every seat is now of national concern. As for your remark that this is New York, the seat is way upstate, not in the City. They are far more conservative upstate. If Dede were palatable, her numbers wouldn’t have collapsed so dramatically when Hoffman came on the scene. His surge in the polling indicates that people want a conservative candidate.
Fallen Sparrow on October 19, 2009 at 6:30 PM
Exactly. Put it this way, if someone is willing to abet the murder of the smallest and most innocent of us, how can I trust him or her to look out for my security?
Fallen Sparrow on October 19, 2009 at 6:32 PM
I guess only 23% of the nation is “pure” and non-satanic, while 75% is full satanic to mildly satanic.
Yet again, I don’t believe in Satan, so all of talk is irrelevant.
Abortion is a complicated issue, poll numbers prove this.
Abortion poll numbers: http://www.gallup.com/poll/1576/Abortion.aspx
DanStark on October 19, 2009 at 6:33 PM
ARE YOU LISTENING?
/gaga
faraway on October 19, 2009 at 6:33 PM
Scozzafava looks a little too much like Janet Napolitano for me to take her seriously.
anniekc on October 19, 2009 at 6:36 PM
I understand this attitude, but who picked who? After all, there is only one Republican candidate here. And if the local Republican party picked this lady, then who would the national party support?
Just asking.
Terrye on October 19, 2009 at 6:38 PM
I would rather have another Dem in Congress than a RINO Republican diluting the conservative brand.
Just what was Newt thinking, anyway?
BigAlSouth on October 19, 2009 at 6:38 PM
It would be impossible for the NRCC — or the DSCC for that matter — to get bogged down in that level of detail. What if a candidate was pro-life, but supported ObamaCare? What’s the “proper” stance on the deficit — can you raise taxes to close it?
Voters in a district choose the candidate. The NRCC backs them.
If this were about control of the House, would you be willing to lose it?
Bleeds Blue on October 19, 2009 at 6:38 PM
I’ve already made a contribution to Hoffman. I encourage other conservatives to do so as well. If the Repubs smell that money, they’ll pay attention.
disa on October 19, 2009 at 6:48 PM
Who Cares? We have got a great fight breaking out between the Romneyians and the Palinotoaligsts
Dire Straits on October 19, 2009 at 6:49 PM
Isn`t party principles more important than party unity?
ThePrez on October 19, 2009 at 6:50 PM
After the way she was mistreated during last year’s fiasco, I doubt strongly that Palin gives a flip what the RNC or anybody else, for that matter, thinks. They didn’t support her and she’d be totally stupid to cater to their whims. She’ll do just as she pleases and anybody who doesn’t like it can take a flying you-know-what on a rolling donut. In the end, the lady will have a major impact and millions of us “common folk” supporting her.
GoldenEagle4444 on October 19, 2009 at 6:51 PM
Beats me.
Phone her up and ask her.
ajacksonian on October 19, 2009 at 6:52 PM
There are big fights going on in NY between the RINOs and the conservatives. It doesn’t help that pols can run as both Republicans AND Dems in NY state. The only ideological purity is liberalism.
Rudy’s campaigning for Nanny Bloomberg for crying out loud. Principles mean nothing. Just getting a piece of the pie for your group.
Iblis on October 19, 2009 at 6:52 PM
Three-pointer at the buzzer?
ThePrez on October 19, 2009 at 6:55 PM
RINOs, breaking their wings off, not going to be pretty.
We have a similar situation in Florida where Interloper Specter wanna bee Crist is in a fight with real conservative Marco Rubio. If you want to support another real conservative who is fighting to stave off another ‘Specter’ then give Marco a ring.
Yeah the GOP is supporting Crist, Inhofe today endorsed Rubio. Here is a posting you might find interesting on the race … http://tarpon.wordpress.com/2009/10/19/crist-no-a-rino-but-a-conservative-interloper/
I don’t give the the RNC anymore, I already adopted Doug Hoffman.
tarpon on October 19, 2009 at 6:56 PM
I contributed to Mr. Hoffmann election. I am glad to see true fiscal conservatism.
hawkman on October 19, 2009 at 6:56 PM
Democrat-lite is still fascism.
TXUS on October 19, 2009 at 6:57 PM
Sounds to me like Scozzafava should drop out for the good of the party. Why does she continue to stay in the race and split the vote?
SirGawain on October 19, 2009 at 6:59 PM
Everytime I see an ad like this against moderate Republicans, it makes me want to vote against Pat Toomey in the Pennsylvania Senate race. It’s a pity that there are so many Democratic Senators that I’m force to vote for whatever extremist nutcase wins the nomination.
However, I’m not going to forget these petty attacks when the number of Democratic Senators are at a more reasonable level.
thuja on October 19, 2009 at 7:05 PM
Absolutely correct. I like the contrary, happily twisted way your brain works!
marybel on October 19, 2009 at 7:08 PM
Why don’t we all get off our fat butts and ask each of these people why they aren’t endorsing him. We all need to stop talking about it, and actually start DOING something about it. I am giving a contribution this Weds.–as soon as I get paid! I am also contacting each of these “front-runners” and the RNC!
lovingmyUSA on October 19, 2009 at 7:10 PM
While I’m not ecstatic about Scozzabuffalo….don’t come crying to me if the Blue Dogs start believing the GOP will choose their 2010 candidates by a hymn-singing contest, and start feeling safe to vote for 0bamacare and crap-and-trade.
Sekhmet on October 19, 2009 at 7:15 PM
I have an idea….let’s increase the Dem vote in Congress. Here’s how.
1. Appoint McHugh(R NY-23) to something in the Obama Admin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_M._McHugh
2. Fund a wedge candiate in NY-23 to split the Republican vote.
3. Presto…the polls show the Dem winning (Nancy loves this stuff)
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dailypolitics/2009/10/siena-owens-leads-ny-20-all-ov.html
Now, for all you “purists” go to
http://www.dedeforcongress.com/
Now read the poll and focus: you want Dede or Nancy+1 ????
Or are you more the Las Vegas type, throw the dice and maybe you’ll beat the casino.
r keller on October 19, 2009 at 7:18 PM
Tried to donate to Doug Hoffman but warning appears that the site is not secure and information could be intercepted.
Any one else have problems using a credit card?
dragondrop on October 19, 2009 at 7:22 PM
Scozzabuffalo will turn Democrap in a heartbeat–lessons unlearned… There is a choice here, and anyone that lives in NY should get out and volunteer. Those of us that don’t live there, can contribute money. WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE! The difference is AIR TIME AND FACE/NAME RECOGNITION. We need to help these candidates. Mark Rubio is another example.
Having a defeatist attitude, and holding our nose to vote for a “republican” candidate, of whom we don’t approve, has got to stop!!!!
lovingmyUSA on October 19, 2009 at 7:23 PM
The msm and the rnc got us dear john against bho. I hope true conservatives choose wisely. The good old boys are having a hard time with all us who are not buying their crud any longer. Money is drying up and the votes may not come for those who have been in dc for ages. This Republic is so under attack by both sides it will take Something some might not want to understand. I just pray we will see this nation does not crater.
L
letget on October 19, 2009 at 7:30 PM
I don’t know what a “Republican” is anymore.
If John McCain, Lindsey Graham, and Mitt Romney are the standard bearers- then I’m out.
Conservative-or let the Democrat win.
I’m done enabling “squishy republicans” that are indistinguishable from dems.
I want the BIGGEST TENT- conservative Americans who want border security, an end to cap and tax nonsense, small gov’t, lower taxes and respect for the Constitution.
ExTex on October 19, 2009 at 7:36 PM
I think it is conservative or nothing too. Frankly, I think the elites on the right must have something to gain by electing rinos, there is no other explanation.
But just because a big name supports someone with an R behind their name it doesn’t mean that I’ll vote for them.
This chick sounds just like Spector, Snowe and others I would love to do with out. If the Dem wins, so be it, but lets put our votes and money wherre our principles lie. Not just where a big name is.
ORconservative on October 19, 2009 at 7:41 PM
Palin, Romney and Huck should ALL be pushing hard for Hoffman. There is no excuse for their fence sitting. Hey Sarah, if you truly are the rogue who listens to her values over politics as usual, throw in for Hoffman already *whether you’re running in 2012 or not, makes no difference). Your stock is dropping fast with me and you risk being beat to the punch by Romney and Huckabee.
Daemonocracy on October 19, 2009 at 7:51 PM
I’d rather send a message NOW even if it means putting the Dem in office. The next election is only a year away anyways so Hoffman will have to be the nominee then.
Daemonocracy on October 19, 2009 at 7:56 PM
Scozzafava is an “even Republican”–as in, “even Republicans agree something must be done about climate change,” or “even Republicans agree that government health care is a basic human right.” I do not want a single more even Republican in government, and I do not care what the price is. If Obama successfully nationalizes one sixth of the economy while imposing explicitly punitive taxes on another quarter of the economy, I don’t want the media to be able to say that “even Republicans share responsibility for the complete collapse of the US economy.”
Fabozz on October 19, 2009 at 8:15 PM
BS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bill30097 on October 19, 2009 at 8:16 PM
This is BS
bill30097 on October 19, 2009 at 8:20 PM
It’s about time we had a Civil war between RINOs and Conservatives. We need to take control of one of the two major partys. If their is to be a splintering of the Republican Party let the RINOs be the ones that form a third party.
Allah Pundit why don’t you start the RINO party?
jpmn on October 19, 2009 at 8:22 PM
Right now, the 0bama Adminsitration is convincing Blue Dogs that the GOP base will demand unelectable candidates, especially for their purple districts.
Are they wrong?
Sekhmet on October 19, 2009 at 8:27 PM
I have donated to Hoffman and I will donate to Rubio tonight. The RNC will never get another dime until they take a right turn and quit pushing garbage candidates on us. I am sick of Sphincter’s that smell to high heaven running in our party. I was once a great admirer of Newt but no more. He has sold out and is more wishy washy than Bill O’reilly. Vote for true conservative’s and let the chips fall where they may. This is war people and it’s time to get down and dirty. Anything less and we will end up being the Socialist States of America.
TNHunter on October 19, 2009 at 8:30 PM
HOFFMANIA, Baby!
The Other McCain on October 19, 2009 at 8:37 PM
Trust me, Dan, I’ve done some research on NY23. This is the Idaho part of New York. Scozzafava is somewhere to the Left of Arlen Specter. Heck, she’s to the Left of Joe Biden.
HOFFMANIA, Baby!
The Other McCain on October 19, 2009 at 8:41 PM
Mr. Keller, I want you to know that I believe in free speech. I firmly defend your right to be an annoying troll.
HOFFMANIA, Baby!
The Other McCain on October 19, 2009 at 8:44 PM
Going Rogue or Playing Safe?
danking70 on October 19, 2009 at 8:56 PM
You Southern Rednecks are crazy.
rightistliberal on October 19, 2009 at 9:01 PM
I think I have said this before but let me repeat:
a) Forget about nationalizing the US health care system; it’s too late for that. Government pays 45% of the care already.
b) We had the New Deal in 1935 and Great Society in 1965. Not one Republican candidate–Sarah palin?–has the balls to reverse Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security. Not one. I repeat.
c) So while all the purists will sit here whining and waiting for two elections campaigns to engage in civil war, Obama would have imposed his fiscally irresponsible agenda on the country.
d) And then, none of the candidates you love would have the balls to reverse any of it. See point (b) Or learn from the so-called progressives. They might whine and all but when it comes to the crunch they come out in support of Democrats.
e) Healthcare Reforms are going to pass simply because Democrats own the country. There was an election, last year you know. In case, half you were too busy searching for Obama’s birth certificate to notice. Without the need to get people like Snowe across, we might have a public option. But the morons here say–oh, great, when that ruins the economy in 8 years, media will blame the democrats. And I will be happy then. Err.. when have you heard media blaming Medicare/Medicaid/SS/ any other entitlement program.
f) There is nothing called Satan. Stop reading your religious nonsense.
So wake up and smell the coffee.
rightistliberal on October 19, 2009 at 9:10 PM
Nope. Let me remind you how I came into this story. Lisa DePasquale sent me a Twitter message at 3 p.m. Wednesday, asking me if I could be on a 3:30 p.m. conference call. OK, nobody says no to Lisa, so I was on the call.
Long story short, the Hoffman campaign needs all the help they can get, and they need it now. They need it yesterday. The ads from Club for Growth are helping, but the Hoffman campaign itself is short on cash, while the RNC and NRC have pumped money to Scozzafava, while both Bill Clinton and Barack Obama are raising big bucks for Owens. (It was reported that Scozzafava was broke before the RNC and NRCC came to her rescue, which is why conservatives are so angry about their intervention.)
The MSM was spinning that Siena poll as “Owen leads,” when the reality was more like, “Scozzafava tanks, Hoffman surges.” (She lost 6 points in 2 weeks, while Hoffman gained 7, crossing the important 20% threshold.) On the ground, in the district, the Hoffman campaign has the momentum, and they know it. But they’re experiencing a wicked pissah of a short-term cash shortage — to pay staffers, to commission polls, etc., etc., etc.
Reading between the lines — and it wasn’t really subtle — the message from that conference call couldn’t have been clearer: WE NEED MONEY NOW!
So, back to your “3-pointer at the buzzer scenario”: Palin’s endorsement now — today, this very minute — would be worth twice as much to the Hoffman campaign than it will be in 24 hours, and every day she delays, the value of her endorsement decreases. The election is Nov. 3 — just 15 days away — and there is no time for waiting around, if Palin’s going to make a difference. In terms of their overall strategic position, the campaign is in a position to win, but this is a financial crisis, and if Palin wants to endorse, she needs to go ahead and do it.
Hoffman’s grassroots supporters keep contacting me, and I assure you that some of them are quite literally praying for Palin’s endorsement. That’s an objective, neutral fact.
The Other McCain on October 19, 2009 at 9:12 PM
No updinging, man. Please.
The Other McCain on October 19, 2009 at 9:15 PM
If Sarah DOES show up in NY-23, she won’t show up until the last week and it will be a closely held secret. Remember Saxby? She did two events and they were sold out. I wouldn’t be surprised if she worked through Fred Thompson to arrange a surprise visit.
victor82 on October 19, 2009 at 9:16 PM
Boy Bleeds, this thread is an orgasm for you.
:)
Sapwolf on October 19, 2009 at 9:21 PM
Sarah P. will impress me if she shows up. If she doesn’t, it’s just another lost opportunity and will go a long way towards convincing me that she’s just waltzing through this show with no idea at all of what’s she’s doing.
If she can’t perceive and seize the opportunities that are laid out in front of her, she doesn’t deserve to run for a national office.
WWS on October 19, 2009 at 9:21 PM
Stacy is right, though. The Clown Shoes RNC is doing what it can to starve Hoffman. Palin needs to endorse within the next 48 hours. That would blow the doors off the national Movement Conservative base and probably move a couple of hundred grand into Hoffman’s Campaign overnight.. Only Palin can do that. Mittens and Huck aren’t getting involved because they don’t want to alienate the Crist/Bushtard wing that controls the NRCC/SREC and Mike Steele and his circle of buffoons.
I speak of personal appearances. Stayci’s correct. Palin needs to move yesterday, but I don’t expect anything for the next 48 hours. Part of the problem lies with people like Fred Malek , with whom she’s close, I suspect. How much does she want to alienate potential donors? I don’t see this as a huge downer for her, as Dede is a long run toxic candidate and a loser in 2010 cycle to a resurgent Owen, anyway.
Why vote for Pepsi (RINO Dede) when you can have Coke (Genuine Libtard Owen)?
I know that Sarah’s people read Conservatives 4 Palin, so I basically posted a “man up, Sarah” request over there. Time for her to get going on this . My take is that she’s doing conference with Fred and Jeri Thompson on this matter. If so, that’s good.
victor82 on October 19, 2009 at 9:26 PM
After seeing Fred’s wife earlier tonight on Fox about this race, it would not surprise me if Sarah did a couple of visits the last week to help Hoffman get over the top.
It is kinda early, but if she really wants to keep to her word, I think at least a Facebook endorsement would be nice if not a visit outright.
But, it will be upon request from Hoffman.
I have already called his campagin and begged them to beg Sarah to show up the last week so the Dems don’t have as much time to react and counter 100% with turnout.
I’m convinced Sarah can pull some votes back for Hoffman. She was in Cayuhoga Cty. earlier in the year. That’s not too far from District 23.
Sapwolf on October 19, 2009 at 9:27 PM
Stacy: see if I’m not right about this.
I bet if you make a few phone calls around town, you’ll find that the NRCC is leaning on big donors not to open up their wallets and give to Hoffman.
victor82 on October 19, 2009 at 9:28 PM
I believe that in this situation if Hoffman asks her to visit, I think she will.
If she doesn’t make it, it is probably because he never asked.
Sapwolf on October 19, 2009 at 9:37 PM
Oh, I get it. We should vote for the wolf in sheep’s clothing instead of the actual sheep. Yeah, good plan, OR the Republicans could get back to preaching conservative values again and nominating conservative candidates. We’ve already got a liberal party in America, we don’t need 2.
uknowmorethanme on October 19, 2009 at 9:38 PM
I live in the 23 Dist. Our RINO McHugh went with the “O” as Sect of the Army. Obama culling out the repubs. Smart when I think about it but Doug Hoffman has my vote this election.
mixplix on October 19, 2009 at 9:41 PM
Nuh-uh. Saxby Chambliss wasn’t hurting for cash and, unlike Hoffman, Chambliss wasn’t in a 3-way fight with GOP-HQ trying to destroy him.
I’ve had Hoffman grassroots supporters asking me if the Hoffman campaign has solicited Palin’s help but . . . good God, if she can’t see the opportunity here and do the right thing without being asked . . . Well, the she’s no better than Mitt the Quitter, the multimillionaire who won’t give Hoffman a dime.
The Other McCain on October 19, 2009 at 9:43 PM
IF the GOP doesn’t get it, perhaps it’s time to make it clear rather than ‘save your ammo’ for the national campaign. Fix the GOP now, re-convert the GOP to conservatism rather than apologetic pseudo liberal progressivism.
Take a small hit now, show the GOP where they NEED to be heading so when the national campaign gets rolling they are on the correct side instead of getting another McCain nominated for the loss.
Spiritk9 on October 19, 2009 at 9:49 PM
I don’t think Saracuda even knew who Doug Hoffman was until this weekend.
Sarah needs to come down and work with Rubio – that’s good territory for her to work in. Understand this is a Republican district in New York – but it’s still New York.
HondaV65 on October 19, 2009 at 9:54 PM
Right now there are too many negatives involved in her getting involved in Crist Rubio. Crist was a perfect gentleman to her last year: he did everything the McCain Palin-Campaign asked.
Then his state (my state) went for Ogabe.
My take? She wants in on Rubio, just not yet.
Stayci: Mittens won’t get involved with Hoffman because he has too many friends in D.C. who have an investment in Dede winning. You know, like Peter King, and perhaps, you know, teh Rudi?
This maybe another reason why Palin isn’t showing up. Is Dede a Rudy protege? If she is, Palin won’t get involved. That’s one bridge she won’t burn. You need to check that out.
victor82 on October 19, 2009 at 10:09 PM
Yes! Let’s not stop until the Dems have 400 seats in the House and 80 seats in the Senate. Then we’ll have won a tremendous victory! Huzzah!
AngusMc on October 19, 2009 at 10:16 PM
The Other McCain
hmmmmm….troll? Sorry, no. Just someone who 1. wants to mute O’s influence as much as possible. 2. Looks at the Sienna poll with alarm.
Kos says Oct 15
From Daily Kos (October 09):
More from dailykos:
From Kos’s post October 01 “endorsment”:
Question: Do we lose nothing if Owens wins? Are we is such good shape we can blow off a seat?????
Do we really want to play chicken on this side? Or, to put it another way….who is going to fold first? I don’t want to chance the media having a glorious field day if Owens wins…it will be a win for Obama.
Hoffman is 10 points down from Owens….Question: would you rather let this seat go Dem or Hoffman, if it comes down to it? I know which side Kos is on…and I am against him.
r keller on October 19, 2009 at 10:16 PM
Nelsen Rockefeller keeps rising from the grave like some free spending zombie. It’s time to put the final nail in the coffin.
Rocks on October 19, 2009 at 10:27 PM
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