Video: How to tell when people don’t get it
posted at 3:35 pm on October 19, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Greg Hengler catches this moment from yesterday’s This Week on ABC, where Washington Post columnist E.J. Dionne casually calls town-hall and tax protesters “teabaggers,” without a hint that he understands the origins of the term. Neither, for that matter, does George Stephanopoulos. It’s left to Peggy Noonan to correct the record, at least somewhat. Greg Hengler captures the moment for Townhall:
DIONNE: The special election for the House, where the Republicans nominated a moderate Republican, Dede Scozzafava, and then the Conservative Party in New York state put up a right-wing candidate supported by the tea baggers. That right-wing candidate is cutting into the moderate’s votes, and the Democrat is ahead in a district that is very Republican. That’s a real challenge long term for the Republicans. Can they nominate moderates?
STEPHANOPOULOS: E.J., he brings up an important point. Now, Stan Greenberg and James Carville did a study this week of the Republican base of voters. And one of the things they found out, this hardcore part of the base is in a world unto its own right now, the tea bag movement. And, you know, they’re sort of driven by the idea that President Obama, the Democrats, have a secret plan to impose socialism on the country.
NOONAN: Well, I don’t know about that. You know, in the case of New York, the conservative, who is making real inroads and threatening the official Republican nominee, that conservative’s voting record has more in common with the fellow who just left that office than the Republicans’ does. I can’t help but think a lot of this stuff is — is exaggerated, in terms of calling it “tea baggers” and all that stuff.
Look, this country saw this summer an awakening, if you will, an August awakening, of people at town halls coming forward, Republicans and independents and some Democrats, saying, “Wait a second. We’re not liking the way they’re doing it right now in Washington.” That is creating, I think, something of a wave that perhaps, if Virginia and New Jersey seem to be going Republican, may lead to something serious in 2010.
I mean, E.J., there were 49 congressmen who are up for re-election in 2010 who are Democrats who came from districts that McCain won, so that shows you, in a way, how delicate things are for them.
The movement refers to itself as the Tea Party movement, not the Tea Bag or the teabagger movement — and for a good reason. The former has allusions to American history and the long tradition of grassroots action against an overreaching government. The latter is a sexual reference, a rather obscene and demeaning one, made popular by talk-show hosts on liberal networks attempting to insult people organizing for a legitimate and non-sexual cause. (For that matter, none of these seem aware that “tea bag” has also been used as a pejorative for Brits, but that’s another matter altogether.)
For people who style themselves as journalists, neither Stephanopoulos or Dionne seem particularly informed on the difference. Noonan stuck to the argument Dionne made that the GOP had to become more moderate in order to win elections, an argument that appears to be losing in Virginia and New Jersey, as fiscal conservatism has made a big comeback, thanks to the fiscal insanity of the Democrats in Congress, who have been anything but moderate since grabbing the majority. In doing so, she scolded Dionne for stating that these protests were the result of a fringe rather than a widespread revulsion at the massive expansion of government pushed by the Obama administration, Nancy Pelosi, and the progressives who run the agenda on Capitol Hill.
But really, could we expect anything different from two commentators who can’t tell the difference between a tea bag and a Tea Party? It’s another measure of cluelessness in the national media, and its disregard for the voters whom they serve.









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In just six/nine months, the Obama Admin. and the Democrats in Congress have uttered — what’s it up to now — dozens of pejoratives for the majority of Americans:
Remember “typical White person” “clinging to…guns and…Bible”?
What about us as “astroturf” (take a look at Axelrod’s legacy, he’s actually boastful about being “a master of astroturf”) as some sort of professional achievement/standard/ability, yet the Right IS “astroturf” when we protest D.C.’s abuses (disregarding that the Constitution bestows us with a Right to do so, something the Demos are intolerant of, so we’re “astroturf” and “carrying swastikas” and are “Nazis” and “haters” and the ever-tiresome, meaningless “racists” at this hour).
The Left has brayed a lot of hideous verbiage in just a short time. All of it in damning American citizens.
Lourdes on October 19, 2009 at 5:05 PM
“we” don’t think it’s a derogatory term. it’s actually cute. you should wear it as a badge of honor. like “birther.”
if the left had this stupid idea to send piles of teabags to dc, you’d call them teabaggers with abandon.
sesquipedalian on October 19, 2009 at 5:06 PM
Lourdes on October 19, 2009 at 5:00 PM
LOL…it would take FOREVER! Those were the days. Even back in 1994 the interet was kinda primative (remember E World?).
Andy, I think most agree with your sentiments. I know I do!
Gob on October 19, 2009 at 5:07 PM
Because both are liberal idiots. Dionne won’t know what slapped him up side the head come Nov 2010. He’ll stand there completely dazed going “Whaaaaaaa??????”
GarandFan on October 19, 2009 at 5:08 PM
Do you seriously believe that Dionne (NYT Democrats) and Stephy (ABC Democrats) don’t know that ‘teabagger’ is intended to connote? If so, they are in a universe of their own. It’s okay for the fair minded media (that means anyone but evil-Fox News) to disparage conservative/libertarian leaning protestors using sexual slurs? Fishy. Maybe Axlerod, Emanuel, Dunn can look into that for us. Isn’t that what we are paying them for?
clorensen on October 19, 2009 at 5:22 PM
BTW, “chicken hawk” is a term homosexual men use to refer to an older guy who has sex with boys.
It’s like they say: an insult tells you a lot more about the insulter than the insultee.
logis on October 19, 2009 at 5:29 PM
Excellent point, Dooshbag!
TugboatPhil on October 19, 2009 at 5:36 PM
No, no I would not. Any more than I’d call you all “f**kers” and “a**lickers” when you’re so engaged.
Lourdes on October 19, 2009 at 5:36 PM
Yes, of course they know what the term means. That’s why they’re using it.
The Left is always exercising new avenues to exploit taste, decorum and civility. Poo-tossing from Democrats would not surprise me. I can actually imagine Olbermann being first to do so on the air.
Lourdes on October 19, 2009 at 5:39 PM
Would whoever stole the rope ladder from the trolls’ tree fort give it back to them, please? They need to get inside to receive their new marching orders over the tin can and string telephone from Soros. (They’re SO cute when they play their “adult” games!)
ya2daup on October 19, 2009 at 5:40 PM
When’s Nancy Pelosi going to speak in Congress without a bra? I mean, what’s next, Reid in his underwear lecturing on “civility”? Obama sharing a joint with little kiddees on the White House lawn?
Lourdes on October 19, 2009 at 5:42 PM
Euwwwww, put a warning label on that! I gotta clean off my monitor now.
dogsoldier on October 19, 2009 at 5:43 PM
Whatever you took, I hope there’s someone there to talk you down!
ya2daup on October 19, 2009 at 5:51 PM
From listening to this wispy tool, I’d say E.J. Dionne definitely knows what “teabagging” is. Flutter away, E.J., no one gives a royal damn WHAT you think.
bradley11 on October 19, 2009 at 6:06 PM
And the Antebellum southerners thought they were giving slaves the privilege of their owning them.
Today’s liberals consider it a privilege that they allow us to breath the same air they do much less do we deserve the tiniest bit of Tea Party respect.
Strange, you just don’t the term “permanent liberal majority” too awful much anymore.
Speakup on October 19, 2009 at 6:58 PM
If they keep calling me a “teabagger”, I’ll keep calling them “douche bags”, m-kay?
Wyznowski on October 19, 2009 at 8:43 PM
Excellent post Morrissey with kudos for Noonan, who occassionly leaves the reservation herself!
FloridaMike on October 19, 2009 at 10:36 PM
The media has no need to understand conservatives because it’s “beneath” them. They consider themselves to be elites, and only speak to the like-minded.
n0doz on October 20, 2009 at 2:30 AM
Ed, I think they know full well what they are saying — both Dionne and Stephanoupolos.
They are deliberately using the language of the lefty bloggers in order to assist in marginalizing the effect of the opposition to Obama in the public’s mind. It is a form of denial. They are thereby dismissing the potential effects of the protests.
I have to believe they are also doing it as a way of subtly trying to get under the skin of those who are openly protesting the direction of the policy coming from the Democrats.
As for Peggy Noonan, she did note their use of the term and she somewhat corrected their broad-brush dismissal of the meaning of the tea parties.
But she really side-stepped a good opportunity to nail both of them over the use of the term.
She could have simply begun with something like:
“I’m not sure why serious commentators would insist on using the term “tea-bagger” — which many see as an intentional perjorative — rather than referring to the movement participants as “tea-partiers,” but let’s talk about what the movement has accomplished . . . etc.”
That would have forced one or both of them to either profess ignorance, or to correct themselves.
She was trying to be a little too subtle by half.
Trochilus on October 20, 2009 at 11:17 AM
“pejorative” that is . . .
Trochilus on October 20, 2009 at 11:28 AM
Heh, they call me a teabagger, then i’ll tell them to lay down, they are the tea baggee
MadDogF on October 20, 2009 at 3:44 PM
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