Jacob Weisberg: See no liberal bias, hear no liberal bias

posted at 4:30 pm on October 18, 2009 by Meryl Yourish

The creator of Slate’s Bushisms, the author of a book called “The Bush Tragedy,” and a lifelong liberal writer is calling Fox News “unAmerican” for having—wait for it—a conservative bias. He is also accusing Fox of forcing MSNBC and CNN to swing to the left instead of maintaining their world-renowned objectivity in news reporting. (Yes indeed, that was sarcasm.) (Via Hot Air.)

Consider Fox’s Web story on the episode. It quotes five people. Two of them work for Fox. All of them assert that administration officials are either wrong in substance or politically foolish to criticize the network. No one is cited supporting Dunn’s criticisms or saying that it could make sense for Obama to challenge the network’s power. It’s a textbook example of a biased journalism.

Meanwhile, ABC presented what was essentially an infomercial on Obamacare earlier this year. A CNN reporter went off on the people she was supposed to be objectively interviewing, and ultimately lost her job—probably because she’s not supposed to be so overt in her liberal bias. But that’s objective journalism. (Say, did ABC present the other side of the healthcare debate in its informercial? I’m thinking not.)

That Rupert Murdoch may tilt the news rightward more for commercial than ideological reasons is beside the point. What matters is the way that Fox’s model has invaded the bloodstream of the American media. By showing that ideologically distorted news can drive ratings, Ailes has provoked his rivals at CNN and MSNBC to develop a variety of populist and ideological takes on the news. In this way, Fox hasn’t just corrupted its own coverage. Its example has made all of cable news unpleasant and unreliable.

That’s amazing… Fox is not only responsible for tilting itself right, but it is also responsible for the leftward tilt of the other cable news networks. But that’s not the biggest load of bull in the piece. This is:

What’s most distinctive about the American press is not its freedom but its century-old tradition of independence—that it serves the public interest rather than those of parties, persuasions, or pressure groups. Media independence is a 20th-century innovation that has never fully taken root in many other countries that do have a free press. The Australian-British-continental model of politicized media that Murdoch has applied at Fox is un-American, so much so that he has little choice but go on denying what he’s doing as he does it. For Murdoch, Ailes, and company, “fair and balanced” is a necessary lie. To admit that their coverage is slanted by design would violate the American understanding of the media’s role in democracy and our idea of what constitutes fair play. But it’s a demonstrable deceit that no longer deserves equal time.

I have three words in response: William Randolph Hearst.

Hearst’s reputation triumphed in the 1930s as his political views changed. In 1932, he was a major supporter of Roosevelt. His newspapers energetically supported the New Deal throughout 1933 and 1934. Hearst broke with FDR in spring 1935 when the President vetoed the Patman Bonus Bill. Hearst papers carried the old publisher’s rambling, vitriolic, all-capital-letters editorials, but he no longer employed the energetic reporters, editorialists and columnists who might have made a serious attack. His newspaper audience was the same working class that Roosevelt swept by three-to-one margins in the 1936 election. In 1934 after checking with Jewish leaders to make sure the visit would prove of benefit to Jews, Hearst visited Berlin to interview Adolf Hitler. Hitler asked why he was so misunderstood by the American press. “Because Americans believe in democracy,” Hearst answered bluntly, “and are averse to dictatorship.”[6]

A century-old tradition of independence? The deuce you say! (That’s a line from the 1930s. Or thereabouts.)

Weisberg is absolutely entitled to his own opinion. But he is not entitled to his own facts, and he is making those facts up out of whole cloth. There was no objective press in the 1930s, and the myth of the unbiased media is a new one, from less than fifty years ago, and I think it was spread by the media people themselves. The phrase “If I’ve lost Cronkite, I’ve lost middle America” was uttered by Lyndon Johnson after an editorial by the CBS anchor about Vietnam in 1968. Somehow, that doesn’t strike me as a century of unbiased media. The media was anti-Vietnam, anti-Richard Nixon (well, so was I, but that’s beside the point), pro-Democrat, anti-Republican, and absolutely not objective. It has had the illusion of objectivity for decades, and that illusion is courtesy of its own teachings in journalism schools, where, somehow, the professors manage to insist that the mainstream media outlets are all paragons of objectivity and unbiased reporting. The fact that everything skews liberal and Democrat is pooh-poohed as the ravings of the “vast, right-wing conspiracy”—the one that caused the Clinton impeachment.

And of course, Weisberg’s answer to the Fox News so-called bias? For “respectable” reporters to stop appearing on Fox at all.

By appearing on Fox, reporters validate its propaganda values and help to undermine the role of legitimate news organizations.

Apparently, editing Slate and creating the “Bushism of the Day” column—which ran even after George W. Bush was no longer in office—is considered legitimate news. But having opinion shows that run counter to the mainstream media’s wishes? Well. That’s just plain un-American.

Really, Newsweek is just embarrassing itself by running tripe like this.

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Jacob is an idiot

bill30097 on October 18, 2009 at 4:36 PM

The good news is, I think America is waking up, and in part because of these attacks. I remember reading some articles written by liberals after the Limbaugh attacks a few months ago, attacks which prompted them to actually listen to him for the first time. The response of many was, “hey, I actually agreed with him a lot.” Hopefully, people will begin watching Fox News because of these latest actions and, even if they don’t agree with what is presented, will at least have their eyes opened to see the bias on other networks.

kc8ukw on October 18, 2009 at 4:38 PM

NewsWEAK lost all hope of being a respectable publication when they released the “We are all Socialists now” magazine after the anointed one’s election.
Pot calling Kettle, Pot calling Kettle, come in Kettle…

viviliberoomuori on October 18, 2009 at 4:40 PM

Reality-based indeed. These lunatics will only become more and more crazed as evidence of their delusions continues to mount against them. The psychotic break won’t be pleasant.

JohnJ on October 18, 2009 at 4:42 PM

The lamestream media is dead …

tarpon on October 18, 2009 at 4:44 PM

What’s really frightening is that this twit might actually believe what he’ saying.
THAT kinda worries me.

Obama is a liar and Truth is
killing his Marxist agenda.

Army Brat on October 18, 2009 at 4:47 PM

The attack on Fox is so incredibly misguided as to be stupid.

Like it or loathe it, Fox is owned by News Corp. News Corp is run by a man called Rupert Murdoch. If you are a politician, crossing him blatantly is simply incompetent. Brock and his friends could perhaps draw some lessons from what happened to others who did this but of course they’re not big on history.

Not saying it is right, but this is the world we live in. And HopenChange isn’t going to help him in a war against Fox. He’s going to get burned.

He looks great in a suit but seems more and more like an incompetent idiot every day.

Shame.

Anders on October 18, 2009 at 4:51 PM

The ULTIMATE troll.

HornetSting on October 18, 2009 at 4:52 PM

Slate, huh? Last year, they posted the results of the internal Slate “how are you going to vote” poll that they take. They asked everyone from web designers to editors to volunteer the information about whom they would be voting for (something I sure wish every news outlet would do). Here are the results:
Barack Obama: 55
John McCain: 1
Bob Barr: 1
Not McCain: 1
Noncitizen, can’t vote: 4
Of the 4 noncitizens, THREE said they would vote for Obama if they could.

So, of the 62 Slate employees, 94% of them indicated that they would vote for Obama.

Now, according to Slate editors, this does not indicate bias (see this story: http://www.slate.com/id/2203052/)

Frankly, I give them props for taking time to publish their voting preferences, but then to claim that 95% of the people working at a publication does not indicate that there is bias is just a pure lack of intellectual honesty.

mctowler on October 18, 2009 at 4:52 PM

Well all I can say to Mr Weisberg is..this must be what a lot of Americans want because Fox News just keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger…

BTW unfortunately for Mr. Weisberg the populace he needs to give this lecture to doesn’t read non celebutard stories and doesn’t watch anything except for The Hills and American Idol etc…

CCRWM on October 18, 2009 at 4:53 PM

Weisberg, unlike Rush Limbaugh, is a bigot. He argued that voting against Mitt Romney because he was a Mormon was not bigotry.

He was also offered a membership in Skull and Bones by Jeanne-Claude Kerri when he was at Yale. He turned it down because…they didn’t admit women.

Del Dolemonte on October 18, 2009 at 4:54 PM

I have three words in response: William Randolph Hearst.

And we had Robert McCormick pushing isolationism in the pages of the Chicago Tribune.

Other examples abound.

Not to mention the “yellow journalism” of the 20s and 30s and the “advocacy journalism” of the 70s.

The story of this golden age of press independence is just that; a story.

SteveMG on October 18, 2009 at 4:56 PM

Shut it, losers.

OhioCoastie on October 18, 2009 at 4:56 PM

To re-state what I said in the GR comments before this post was promoted, I don’t see the following statement as realistic at all:

that illusion is courtesy of its own teachings in journalism schools, where, somehow, the professors manage to insist that the mainstream media outlets are all paragons of objectivity and unbiased reporting

The underlying theme, not just in journalism classes but throughout the humanities, is that objectivity doesn’t really exist, and that the mainstream and side-stream media skew to the right.

From this perspective, even MSNBC is “center right deviationist,” or, at best, liberal corporatist. It’s mere existence as a corporate-controlled, commercial network would ensure that it will interpret events and opinions from what the Marxists would once have been less shy about calling a “bourgeois” perspective. Even a “revolutionary” perspective offered in this context would serve to reinforce rather than oppose the existing power structure, by lending it the false appearance of “balance” and “objectivity.”

From this perspective, whatever, for instance, Keith Olbermann says, his show is already part of the ideological state apparatus, already implicitly supportive of the existing power structure. He just pretends to be an oppositional voice, and thus crowds out “real” opposition.

The vast majority of working journalists (like other humanities students) start leaving “what they learned in school” behind as soon as they find employment. But what remains of what and how they were taught prevents them from feeling guilty consciences about tilting to the left. If you ever got them, especially when they’re young, to say what they really think, or think they think, it would be even further to the left than anything they say. They think they’re already censoring themselves to serve their corporate masters and cater to a viewing audience of cave-people – correcting toward the center or the right.

CK MacLeod on October 18, 2009 at 4:57 PM

(Say, did ABC present the other side of the healthcare debate in its informercial? I’m thinking not.)

She lost her job. Name me one FOX ‘reporter’ or ‘journalist’ who’s been fired or even reprimanded for not covering more than the preferred side of an issue.

You can’t, because, as the Prez sez, FOX News is not a legitimate news organization. It’s a mouthpiece for teabaggers.

Grow Fins on October 18, 2009 at 4:58 PM

great piece…

sad that the libtards will eat it up the newsweek piece as gospel…

cmsinaz on October 18, 2009 at 4:58 PM

When I was 5, I remember my father ranting at my sister’s long haired boyfriend that he could not trust the Washington Post or Walter Cronkite because they had AGENDAS. That the agendas were anti-america. I’ve been aware of this bias my whole life. I’m constantly stunned at the STUPIDITY of people who do not recognize that the media has its own biases. Who writes and produces the stories? People. They expect people to be unbiased? It’s not possible.

Karl Rove made Terry McAuliffe look like a fool and a liar on Fox News this morning. Chirs Wallace helped but they couldn’t have done it without Terry giving them the blantant openings.

Haunches on October 18, 2009 at 5:00 PM

implicitly supportive of the existing power structure

You write this like it’s an absurd claim. What news org out there isn’t “implicitly supportive of the existing power structure”?

Grow Fins on October 18, 2009 at 5:00 PM

The ULTIMATE troll.

HornetSting on October 18, 2009 at 4:52 PM

You’re not citing me I hope.

Anders on October 18, 2009 at 5:00 PM

Grow Fins on October 18, 2009 at 4:58 PM

hate to break it to ya, but FNC show both sides of an issue…unlike your pals on MSDNC or CNN….

cmsinaz on October 18, 2009 at 5:00 PM

Hey Grow Fins, if we’re the teabaggers, that must make you a teabaggee.

OhioCoastie on October 18, 2009 at 5:01 PM

Weisberg cited an example of a Fox News story on White House criticism of Fox that did not have one person on board with the White House position. This level of bias, said Weisberg, denies Fox a place among credible news.

By that standard Newsweek has not been a serious news source for at least 10 years.

Chris_Balsz on October 18, 2009 at 5:02 PM

Name me one FOX ‘reporter’ or ‘journalist’ who’s been fired or even reprimanded for not covering more than the preferred side of an issue.

Perhaps they have covered the stories with actual balance?
Your proposition suggests that the reporters and journalists are biased. Do you know the difference between opinion and news pieces?

Haunches on October 18, 2009 at 5:04 PM

“The deuce you say!”

Seven Percent Solution on October 18, 2009 at 5:04 PM

Grow Fins on October 18, 2009 at 5:00 PM

Phrases like “implicitly supportive of the existing power structure” already carry their neo- and post-Marxist presumptions with them. “Absurd” is your word.

CK MacLeod on October 18, 2009 at 5:05 PM

Meryl Yourish: The fact that everything skews liberal and Democrat is pooh-poohed as the ravings of the “vast, right-wing conspiracy”—the one that caused the Clinton impeachment.

Congratulations, Ms. Yourish. Well done.

Perhaps my memory is wrong, but it seems the liberal bias was more restrained and subtle when I was young. Today, the bias is blatant and obnoxious. Which is better? I’m not sure I know.

Part of me would like to return to the days in which there wasn’t so much screaming and such vulgar language. I think it coarsens the culture and makes it difficult to discuss anything. But, part of me is grateful that the bias is so blatantly obvious.

Too bad so many Americans beleive what they read, see and hear in the MSM.

Oh, wait! Maybe they don’t: Everyone agrees: the mainstream media is biased, inaccurate Only 29% trust the MSM. So please keep at it, Ms. Yourish, because 29% is still too many Americans who desperately need to be woken up.

Loxodonta on October 18, 2009 at 5:06 PM

Conservatives have *one* news network and talk radio, that’s it. The left owns the rest, as well as the entire education system and Hollywood. Yet they still have the audacity to whinge about the situation.

mudskipper on October 18, 2009 at 5:08 PM

They think they’re already censoring themselves to serve their corporate masters and cater to a viewing audience of cave-people – correcting toward the center or the right.

CK MacLeod on October 18, 2009 at 4:57 PM

This is so true and just imagine if we had no commercial advertisers that would support these interests.

fourdeucer on October 18, 2009 at 5:13 PM

Is Fox News un-American?

I really do not like calling any American un-American, but I can not see how anyone who thinks that Fox News is un-American is not un-American, and very much so, themself.

MB4 on October 18, 2009 at 5:14 PM

Weisberg is just trying to get attention. I’d never heard of him before, nobody else in America ever heard of him before and he is lashing out in order to get attention. You got played.

American Elephant on October 18, 2009 at 5:15 PM

Fox News is always fair but the left doesn’t want “fair” . . . they want mindless compliance and obedience. Unfortunately, that’s exactly what they get from the other major news and entertainment networks. Hang tough FOX and don’t give them an inch.

rplat on October 18, 2009 at 5:16 PM

Weisberg is beclowning himself with this shite.

rbj on October 18, 2009 at 5:20 PM

Not only is Fox News not unamerican, but Fox News is in fact quintessentially American precisely because of the way those Chicago goons are pelting it with rhetorical rotten vegetables from the relative safety of their beltway offices.

I submit that if Fox News were a person instead of a corporation, Anita Dunn and others would be guilty of slander and libel for all the malice they spew. As far as Fox is concerned, I guess no publicity is bad publicity.

gryphon202 on October 18, 2009 at 5:20 PM

Hey Grow Fins, if we’re the teabaggers, that must make you a teabaggee.

OhioCoastie on October 18, 2009 at 5:01 PM

+1

bill30097 on October 18, 2009 at 5:21 PM

UN-AMERICAN!

Fox is balanced,unlike the newest branch of the Ministry
Propaganda,the inbedded State Runned Media,who are going
to bat for Team Obama!

Hey Liberals,just give me the REAL FACTS,from both sides,
and let the viewer make up their own minds,instead of lying
and trumping up the facts,as it endangers or jeopardizes
YOUR AGENDAS!!!!!!!!!!!

canopfor on October 18, 2009 at 5:22 PM

I really do not like calling any American un-American,

MB4 on October 18, 2009 at 5:14 PM

MB4: Amen on that:)

canopfor on October 18, 2009 at 5:24 PM

Those who think that Fox News is un-American would have a cow if Mark Twain were still alive. He would beat them totally senseless with his golden tongue and they would have complete mental breakdowns. It would be glorious.

MB4 on October 18, 2009 at 5:28 PM

Believe it or not, I sincerely hope they ALL continue with this rant (and it’s nothing more than a rant) for many moons. They’ve taken careful aim and shot themselves in both feet. Even the libtards hide their faces when such claims are made. They know it’s ABSOLUTELY AMERICAN to espouse an opposing viewpoint and to do so with vigor is even more so!!

Sooooo, keep up the great work. The FOX ratings will be through the roof and y’all will be wondering “what the Hell just happened?”

GoldenEagle4444 on October 18, 2009 at 5:30 PM

Libs are liars. This is what they do.

LibTired on October 18, 2009 at 5:33 PM

UNBIASED AND OBJECTIVE?

Since when, weisberg?

RECENT FACT: HUFFPO AND SANCHEZ RETRACTED THEIR STORIES AGAINST RUSH.

AND ALL THOSE LIES AGAINST SARAH PALIN?

So, Weisberg, who is the paragon of Objectivity and factual reporting?

Gosh … Weisberg is the biggest idiot in the world.

TheAlamos on October 18, 2009 at 5:34 PM

Grow Fins on October 18, 2009 at 4:58 PM

I bet your band doesn’t get booked much. Wow.

Key West Reader on October 18, 2009 at 5:37 PM

I have a degree in journalism. These are my observations. On commentary, yes Fox tilts right. On news, a bit, yes. So what? It is a complete counter-balance to the leftward slant of the other news organizations. Is this dude really prepared to say that the NYT, WaPo, MSNBC, CNN, ABC, etc. are credible b/c of their leftward reporting? You can’t have it both ways. The reporting is credible no matter the slant, or none of it is. You either play it as straight as you can, which is pretty much impossible b/c anyone can say that you are biased when they don’t like your coverage, or you show some of your ideological bent in your commentary and establish your network as a voice for it.

The absolute best part is they think that this is a “credible” argument and that it will discredit FoxNews by just saying they aren’t a real news organization. Yet, they keep growing and growing. Really bad strategery there, Axelhole! LOL!

JAM on October 18, 2009 at 5:41 PM

Grow Fins,

You sure seem to be obsessed with the term “teabaggers”.

I, for one, would like to be left out of your homoerotic fantasies of balls in your mouth.

Thanks!

RarestRX on October 18, 2009 at 5:44 PM

You sure seem to be obsessed with the term “teabaggers”.

Grow Fins is a female.

SteveMG on October 18, 2009 at 5:50 PM

The goal of the Left is to delegitimize everyone and everything that’s not Left-wing. Only their ideas and paragons are respectable.
Nobel prizes for Paul Krugman, Gore and The One reinforce this. The thing is to marginalize and then criminalize free market ideas, freedom of choice, etc. Maintain that the MSM are the only ones that have to be taken into account, the rest of us are just crackpots.

Witteman on October 18, 2009 at 5:51 PM

Wow, that is liberalism as a mental disorder on full display. The fact that he equates the MSM’s liberal bias as an answer to Fox News having a conservative slant is rediculous on it’s face. The fact that Fox News is the most popular cable news organization has everything to do with the fact that American’s trust Fox, and they see through the ridiculousness of the MSM’s desire to tell the truth.
OT, Holy butt-kicking the Patriots are putting on the Titans.

Geronimo on October 18, 2009 at 5:54 PM

I meant to say, the inability for the MSM to tell the truth. My bad.

Geronimo on October 18, 2009 at 5:55 PM

(Say, did ABC present the other side of the healthcare debate in its informercial? I’m thinking not.)
She lost her job. Name me one FOX ‘reporter’ or ‘journalist’ who’s been fired or even reprimanded for not covering more than the preferred side of an issue.

You can’t, because, as the Prez sez, FOX News is not a legitimate news organization. It’s a mouthpiece for teabaggers.

Grow Fins on October 18, 2009 at 4:58 PM

I apologize if someone already mentioned this. I seem to remember Shepard Smith yelling for the public option not aht long ago, I think he is still employed by FOX.

bluemarlin on October 18, 2009 at 5:56 PM

(Say, did ABC present the other side of the healthcare debate in its informercial? I’m thinking not.)
She lost her job. Name me one FOX ‘reporter’ or ‘journalist’ who’s been fired or even reprimanded for not covering more than the preferred side of an issue.

You can’t, because, as the Prez sez, FOX News is not a legitimate news organization. It’s a mouthpiece for teabaggers.

Grow Fins on October 18, 2009 at 4:58 PM
I apologize if someone already mentioned this. I seem to remember Shepard Smith yelling for the public option not aht long ago, I think he is still employed by FOX.

bluemarlin on October 18, 2009 at 5:56 PM

Hit that button to quickly sorry. Point being if FOX is so right wing and only has one agenda GOP, Shepard should have been fired immediately, right Grow Fins?

bluemarlin on October 18, 2009 at 6:00 PM

Weisberg’s ill-conceived article in illustrates what is wrong with what have been called “mainstream media” organizations that in fact are anything but mainstream. Contrary to Weisberg, FOX News is very American, providing old fashioned fair and balanced news coverage and allowing for a full airing of opinion. In contrast, Newsweek has over the years degenerated into nothing more than a politically correct, left wing socialist propaganda outlet, intolerant of independent conservative viewpoint. For some examples, according to Newsweek, the Iraq War was lost, there is a case for killing granny and we are all socialists now. None of these points, however, was and is true. Indeed, being defeatist, not valuing individual human life and being socialist are part of what Newsweek believes but all are very un-American.

Phil Byler on October 18, 2009 at 6:06 PM

Grow Fins is a female.

Pics or BS. Needs to hold a sign that says “I [heart] being teabagged.”

RarestRX on October 18, 2009 at 6:09 PM

Newsweak- we sell lies that get people killed as we try to injure our political opponents!

After The Murderous Miracle of the Flushed Koran, Newsweak should have folded its moth-eaten tent and slithered away in shame.

Instead their testing new mottos:

“We Make It Up, You Swallow It!”

“Sarah Palin = Demon Pazuzu!”

Serving Obama~ A Prize President

profitsbeard on October 18, 2009 at 6:10 PM

Name me one FOX ‘reporter’ or ‘journalist’ who’s been fired or even reprimanded for not covering more than the preferred side of an issue.

Grow Fins343 on October 18, 2009 at 4:58 PM

I know it happened when you were in diapers so you wouldn’t remember it, but Faux News reporter Carl Cameron was reprimanded by FNC in 2004 for something he did re. Jeanne-Claude Kerri. Of course that absolutely pales in comparison to CNN’s firing Peter Arnett over the Tailwind debacle, or CNN’s CEO Eason Jordon resigning in disgrace after falsely accusing American troops of murdering Iraqi journalists.

BTW, Fox news has on staff many reporters and anchors who previously worked for other networks-Brit Hume from ABC, Carl Cameron, who came from a local ABC affiliate, and others including CNN. Are those other news organizations illegitimate too?

Del Dolemonte on October 18, 2009 at 6:11 PM

The more the libbie tards obsess over FNC the more it reinforces the simple fact that WE ARE RIGHT……instead of working for their surrender monkey’s policies, they are all exerting their time and energy chasing conservatives and mocking our beliefs.

Please KEEP doing this liberal progressive commies; it is like fuel for our side. Yummers.

Ris4victory on October 18, 2009 at 6:13 PM

It’s like standing at the event horizon of stupid.

There is an article there but the mind behind it has long since collapsed into an intellectual black hole.

Oh well, the silver lining of Obama’s administration is getting to watch the MSM’s liberal death spiral.

jhffmn on October 18, 2009 at 6:16 PM

Two books this jerk wad needs to read:
1) Infamous Scribblers: The Founding Fathers and the Rowdy Beginnings of American Journalism
2) All the News Unfit to Print: How Things Were… and How They Were Reported
It’s apparent he knows nothing about journalism.

mizflame98 on October 18, 2009 at 6:17 PM

You know I feel bad for Obama. Because I truly believe that if the media only gushed over him like they do Sarah Palin, people would take him and his agenda more seriously…. /s

Caper29 on October 18, 2009 at 6:21 PM

The issue is an establishment/Statist bias, not necessarily a liberal bent at this point.

The Dean on October 18, 2009 at 6:22 PM

You can’t, because, as the Prez sez, FOX News is not a legitimate news organization. It’s a mouthpiece for teabaggers.

Grow Fins on October 18, 2009 at 4:58 PM

And because Chairman ObaMao says it; then it must be true.

mizflame98 on October 18, 2009 at 6:24 PM

# Newsweek lowered its guaranteed circulation rate for advertisers from 3.1 million to 2.6 million in 2008. Industry experts expect it will drop under 2 million by 2009.

Newsweeks circulation was 4,000,000 in 2003. Today it’s at 2,700,000.

Good bye Newsweek and good riddance.

jhffmn on October 18, 2009 at 6:24 PM

It’s like standing at the event horizon of stupid.
jhffmn on October 18, 2009 at 6:16 PM

That’s the best expression, I have read on the subject today!

Dr Evil on October 18, 2009 at 6:34 PM

The goal of the Left is to delegitimize everyone and everything that’s not Left-wing. Only their ideas and paragons are respectable.
Nobel prizes for Paul Krugman, Gore and The One reinforce this. The thing is to marginalize and then criminalize free market ideas, freedom of choice, etc. Maintain that the MSM are the only ones that have to be taken into account, the rest of us are just crackpots.

Witteman on October 18, 2009 at 5:51 PM

You hit the nail on the head. Much of today’s left-wing discourse rests on the idea that conservative/liberatarian positions are ipso facto “beyond the pale” and that all proponents are ignorant, racist, reactionary or corrupt. The flip side is that liberal opinions must be portrayed as self-evident “facts”. To acknowledge such a thing as “liberal bias” would completely undermine this strategy.

Ponz on October 18, 2009 at 6:35 PM

Grow Fins,

You sure seem to be obsessed with the term “teabaggers”.

I, for one, would like to be left out of your homoerotic fantasies of balls in your mouth.

Thanks!

RarestRX on October 18, 2009 at 5:44 PM

RarestRX: I`m a tea drinker,and never knew what teabagging
was,till Liberals labelled the Tea Party,and now
when I stare at a tea-bag,well,I shudder!

So,RarestRX,I agree with you,thanks alot Leftys!

canopfor on October 18, 2009 at 6:45 PM

Now was it Newsweek or Time that ran twenty-some-odd covers since last November, giving the appearance that their magazine should just be renamed “OBAMA!”? Complaining of bias at Fox News is simply more of the same delusional BS from the left-wing media.

oldleprechaun on October 18, 2009 at 7:00 PM

The issue is an establishment/Statist bias, not necessarily a liberal bent at this point.

The Dean343 on October 18, 2009 at 6:22 PM

No, the author accuses Fox News of being “anti-American”, meaning “an enemy of the state”.

Yet CNN has in the past aired many anti-American stories (I cited a couple of examples earlier in this thread) and just last year “Anderson Pooper” actually showed video footage supplied to CNN by America’s real enemies, showing the view thru a sniper scope of US troops just before the snipers pulled the triggers.

That episode alone is enough to give CNN the Gold Medal (or Nobel Prize?) in the category “anti-American news outlet”.

Del Dolemonte on October 18, 2009 at 7:02 PM

Weisberg is the biggest diva bitch since Lassie.

Boxy_Brown on October 18, 2009 at 7:13 PM

Weisberg is the biggest diva b!tch since Lassie.

Boxy_Brown on October 18, 2009 at 7:14 PM

FOX News is not a legitimate news organization. It’s a mouthpiece for teabaggers.

Grow Fins on October 18, 2009 at 4:58 PM

Even assuming that you’re right – that w/b one.

What are: ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, CNN international, CNBC, MSNBC, NYT, LAT, Washington Post, and etc?

Schadenfreude on October 18, 2009 at 7:21 PM

Now was it Newsweek or Time that ran twenty-some-odd covers since last November, giving the appearance that their magazine should just be renamed “OBAMA!”? Complaining of bias at Fox News is simply more of the same delusional BS from the left-wing media.

oldleprechaun on October 18, 2009 at 7:00 PM

Now was it Newsweek or Time…

Yes.
(It’s not really an either/or proposition.)

massrighty on October 18, 2009 at 7:22 PM

What are: ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, CNN international, CNBC, MSNBC, NYT, LAT, Washington Post, and etc?

Schadenfreude on October 18, 2009 at 7:21 PM

What is “a mouthpiece for douchenozzles,” Alex.

(Phrased correctly, in the form of a question.)

massrighty on October 18, 2009 at 7:23 PM

Wolf & CNN are fact checking Sponge Bob for anti-Obooba bias. Film at eleven.

Akzed on October 18, 2009 at 7:25 PM

Keith Olbermann can rest at night knowing that FoxNews will make sure his job at MSNBC is there is the morning.

Excuse me while a laugh my guts out

J_Crater on October 18, 2009 at 7:34 PM

The whole thing is bo demands worship and the yellow press is eating a crap sandwich until Fox falls inline. NOT happening.

tim c on October 18, 2009 at 7:34 PM

Conservatives have *one* news network and talk radio, that’s it. The left owns the rest, as well as the entire education system and Hollywood. Yet they still have the audacity to whinge about the situation.

How can news be “conservative”?

Grow Fins on October 18, 2009 at 7:35 PM

I bet your band doesn’t get booked much. Wow.

Wow. You’re dense. That’s not “my band.” It’s Don Van Vliet’s.
FAIL.

Grow Fins on October 18, 2009 at 7:38 PM

You can’t, because, as the Prez sez, FOX News is not a legitimate news organization. It’s a mouthpiece for teabaggers.

Grow Fins on October 18, 2009 at 4:58 PM

When you can’t be a participant toward a viable solution, what do you do? ………………… You end up sounding like Grow Fins or Janeane Garofalo. Is GF really Janeane? Can I get a “straight up” from Grow Fins?

Americannodash on October 18, 2009 at 7:54 PM

I found this gem from back in May.

Newsweek, whose circulation was as high as 3.1 million in recent years, plans to cut that to 1.5 million by the beginning of 2010, in part by discouraging renewals. The magazine will begin charging the average subscriber about 90 cents an issue, nearly double the current rate.

“If we can’t convince a million and a half people we’re worth less than a dollar a week, the market will have spoken,” Meacham says.

Oh, the market has already spoke. You suck Newsweek. No one wants the print version of Air America either.

Now go away and die gracefully.

jhffmn on October 18, 2009 at 8:26 PM

How can news be “conservative”?

Grow Fins on October 18, 2009 at 7:35 PM

Presented honestly.

daesleeper on October 18, 2009 at 8:26 PM

What sticks in my craw, is that FNC was formed in 1996 (the date is from memory) as a REACTION to the monopoly of the liberal press.

If Fox were failing and flailing (as the MSM is) they would be laughing and pointing out how no one wanted to hear from Fox – but since FNC is CREAMING them, they distort, lie, and bash on Fox.

Here’s what REALLY happened. The liberal press became a PRODUCT. Once that happened, and we can debate WHEN that happened all day long, they COULDN’T just go “back to reporting the news” – they’d lose their customer base.

Sure, FNC is a product, – a popular one. And the MSM is upset – like the feminist anger junkie who can’t get a date and blames men because no one wants ‘a strong independently minded woman’. The product doesn’t sell because someone made a better one.

Let them cry and whine – O’Reiley and Beck and the rest of FNC is absorbing more and more viewers. The MSM is dying on the vine – because their fruit is so tainted.

Steven

LSBeene on October 18, 2009 at 8:31 PM

Fox News is pro-American.

Glenn Beck is the only person on television discussing what most pro-American journalists should be discussing: Marxists and extremists in the White House, reckless borrowing and spending, the destruction of our dollar, and the lies and corruption that are being used to bring about the destruction of liberty in America.

America was founded to protect individual liberty. Anything that threatens our freedom is anti-American. Marxists, Maoists, leftists, and radicals who want to subjugate the individual to the state, and those in the mainstream media, many of whom are “useful idiots” who don’t see where the Marxist road is leading, are anti-American.

For too long, we have allowed the far left to get away with saying, “Dissent is patriotic.” If you are advocating slavery to the state or policies that will result in enslaving us to the state, no, that is not patriotic. It is anti-American.

If you want to live enslaved, go to Cuba. Send some Cubans back here who want to live in freedom.

We cannot tolerate a leftist mainstream media any longer. They are harming us immeasurably. Patriotic Americans must rise up and shut them down.

Cara C on October 18, 2009 at 8:37 PM

Just a note to ALL HA commenters:

In case you weren’t aware, LGF a–holes Killgore Trout and Simoom regularly troll the HA comments looking for examples to smear Ed and Allahpundit (just as they do Rush Limbaugh). Sooooo, if you wanna see you comment used to smear YOU and HA, you should watch what you say. Or, end each and every comment with a hearty fvck you LGF.

Andy in Agoura Hills on October 18, 2009 at 8:52 PM

Oh well, the silver lining of Obama’s administration is getting to watch the MSM’s liberal death spiral.

jhffmn on October 18, 2009 at 6:16 PM

As Nietzsche said, “Whatever is falling, deserves to be pushed”. I hope to see all these MSM lackeys unemployed.

venividivici on October 18, 2009 at 8:58 PM

I was long ago banned from Slate because of my view points. They have never allowed me back.

paulsur on October 18, 2009 at 9:11 PM

You’ve hit it exactly Cara, its the ideas behind America that make it worth the effort.
As a matter of fact I’ve often thought that one could see through the BS much more clearly if we understood the distinction between “America” and “The United States”. Like the distinction between “The Church” and “The Faith” in religion, the distinction between the set of ideas that make up “America”, and the set of institutions that make up “The United States”, is critical to the idea that it may be perfectly logical to be Pro-American and Anti-United States at the same time.
It is the oldest story in all of human history that every set of ideals, and every Messiah as well, is sooner or later betrayed by their own disciples. Institutions evolve their own priorities and agendas over time, and sooner or later betray the very ideals that brought them so much power.

Lew on October 18, 2009 at 9:22 PM

How can news be “conservative”?

Grow Fins343 on October 18, 2009 at 7:35 PM

Del Dolemonte on October 18, 2009 at 9:58 PM

In case you weren’t aware, LGF a–holes Killgore Trout and Simoom regularly troll the HA

Glad you pointed that out.
Hey , Chuckles -you have become Dan Rather.
You’re now Mister “Fake but Accurate ” of 2009.
(This goes along with your lifelong achievement award for worst, most amateurish scenic photography on the internet)
And—oh, yeah….
Bite me.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on October 18, 2009 at 10:03 PM

Cara C on October 18, 2009 at 8:37 PM

WOW. Clarity from Cara C.

IlikedAUH2O on October 18, 2009 at 10:19 PM

All this debate is hilarious. It all doesn’t matter. The left leaning g outlets are losing viewers, while Fox cleans their clock every day. People don’t give a hoot if it’s from “section” A, B, C or whatever. People like what they like and evidently a lot more people like Fox. So whine away, because it working.

Jeff from WI on October 19, 2009 at 5:40 AM

it ISN’T working

Jeff from WI on October 19, 2009 at 5:47 AM

Oh great, now he rememebers that ethics class he took back in journalism school.

mugged on October 19, 2009 at 6:56 AM

brilliant piece Meryl.!

I have three words in response: William Randolph Hearst.

beyond succinct! devastating!

max1 on October 19, 2009 at 9:51 AM

Conservatives have *one* news network and talk radio, that’s it. The left owns the rest, as well as the entire education system and Hollywood. Yet they still have the audacity to whinge about the situation.

How can news be “conservative”?

Grow Fins on October 18, 2009 at 7:35 PM

You do know that it’s a good idea to get challenge questions somewhere near the actual words used. It doesn’t say “conservative”, as in a conservative viewpoint–it says “conservativeS” as in a group of people. And “news” isn’t a noun in that sentence but a qualifier for “network”. There is nothing in that quote that says “conservative news”. So your question is no where near commentary on anything actually said. These are talking about particular instances, and your “comment” is about impersonal abstracts. And if you don’t know how particulars and abstracts can differ, then there is really no reason for educated people to be talking to you.

Axeman on October 19, 2009 at 11:16 AM

Thanks to Zo’s recent entry at PJTV, when he points out that Olbermann is “hateful” when parsing Rush’s interview on the subject of Glenn Beck, I noticed something about the relationship between MSNBS and Fox. For those of you who don’t recall, Olbermann said that taking credit for the success of Beck is like “taking credit for syphilis.”

Of all the long-running commentary shows (thus, excluding Red-Eye) on Fox, I don’t recall one that nightly insults the “opposition party” (granting the idea that Fox has an “opposition”). Olbermann’s program seems to be set up to counter Rush because the left can’t reach anybody through the failed Air America. I don’t think that Rush is quite as hateful as Olbermann is. But will equate them, arguendo. Easily, Garafalo’s take on congenital conservatism is found somewhere in the area of Savage’s “Liberalism is a Mental Disease” quote.

But again, we’re talking about clearly marked commentary programs that have nothing to do with Fox. I have no problem with the idea that Hannity is a booster for the GOP, but until recently, he was more or less balanced by Alan Colmes, who while representing a left POV, would very much disagree with the idea that he was a “pushover” for Hannity. So as long as we’re granting things on rough equivalencies, it’s only by particular viewpoints that we can get to the liberal’s idea that H&C was “unbalanced”.

That brings us to O’Reilly. And to say that BOR brought us Maddow and Olbermann, is to say that either of those two have done respectful interviews with Bush or McCain and Bill did with Obama.

Here’s where my perspective starts to assert itself: that’s just plain laughable. Matthews, perhaps. He managed a not-completely-obvious slant for many years on Hardball.
But the nightly buffoons? Not a chance.

Even if we argue that Glenn Beck is Fox’s KO, that would still make Beck’s Fox show, (that is his first TV show on a less than respectable news network) answer to Olbermann.

Geraldo was certainly no grave critic of Clinton and on balance championed him every night during the Clinton scandals. And he was no ardent supporter of Bush.

In fact in order to make Weisberg’s argument you have to grant every particular point of the left. 1) Geraldo’s POV was “counter acted” by the times that he respectfully agreed with conservatives on issues, 2) and that Colmes was a “lightweight”. And that O’Reilly was unrelentingly conservative (while I grant that he probably hasn’t ticked off quite as many core conservatives as core liberals over the years.) In order to push MSNBC into it’s “Limbaugh/Savage-esque” role.

You have to be happy with the “balance” when real conservatives were one quarter of Maher’s Politically Incorrect panel discussion, and they usually brought in a liberal-tarian to help beat up on the conservative if he got to socially conservative, and when the ever-mild George Will’s being outnumbered on Brinkley’s show was tolerable to the left. Back when during the 1988 GOP convention and let Mark Shields say “Ronald Reagan wanted to form a majority Nazi party” during the panel discussion led by the lauded McNeil-Lehrer team, without anyone batting an eye-including resident “conservative” David Gergen.

When the conservatives started going around this “balance” and allow conservatives on the air without apologizing for them, or let conservatives balance out the discussion, they paved the way for Olbermann’s nightly vitriol.

They want control of the narrative yet again.

Axeman on October 19, 2009 at 12:02 PM

Consider Fox’s Web story on the episode. It quotes five people. Two of them work for Fox. All of them assert that administration officials are either wrong in substance or politically foolish to criticize the network. No one is cited supporting Dunn’s criticisms or saying that it could make sense for Obama to challenge the network’s power. It’s a textbook example of a biased journalism.

So in a story about Fox News they talk with people that work at Fox News – should they have been interviewing people on JournoList instead? The left is so far gone they apparently don’t even understand journalism anymore…

Oh, and didn’t we just spend eight years being told the press’s number one job was to aggressively investigate and report on those in power? Since Obama and his party control every elected branch of government by a wide margin, isn’t that much more true now then in 2007?

18-1 on October 19, 2009 at 12:19 PM

This will be about as effective as the attempts over the years to marginalize Rush Limbaugh.

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. What else is there to say? Obama and company are not very bright.

DWB on October 19, 2009 at 4:23 PM

Bias is a bad word for worldview (what we believe to be real – supprise supprise – not everyone believes in the same reality). Whatever we write is colored by our worldview and there is nothing you can do to avoid it. But I do believe we can acknowledge it, compensate for it by having courage, by being honest and open about our worldview and striving with our work to be accurate, to handle the facts well, to give people we do not agree with the benefit of the doubt in cases that are not clear cut, and to keep selfless service in front of our efforts to present our best version of the truth that our personal point of view can afford.

All this mess comes from people’s attempt to manipulate public opinion for their own personal gain and forget the damage done to the truth and to the public that reporters were suppose to serve. It is a journalistic poparatzi free-for-all and I don’t care at this moment how badly I spelled any of these words.

You know who you are…. The limits of inductive arguments – there are no compelling arguments (Aristotle, emanuel kant, einstein all agree). I can chose to disbelieve you no matter how much of a god you think you are, and most reporters (and politicians) have forgotten this.

mcplumbercuda on October 19, 2009 at 5:01 PM

“We cannot tolerate a leftist mainstream media any longer. They are harming us immeasurably. Patriotic Americans must rise up and shut them down.”

What does this mean? It is this kind of sentiment that worries me about Beck – the cryptic borderline seditious comments.

But then I remember that most Americans wouldn’t actually “rise up” and do anything anyway. “Two and a Half Men” comes on at 8; can’t be bothered to actually go out and do something about it.

Naw, nothing like what I think Beck wants to happen (per Skousen and the White Horse, Independence Missouri Zionist clap-trap) would even start until about a year and a half from now, when we’re at upwards of 25% unemployment.

But then, at that point, most of the nation will clamor for the government to help them rather than call to arms.

In the meantime, enjoy the freak-show.

Otis B on October 19, 2009 at 5:40 PM

You know who you are…. The limits of inductive arguments – there are no compelling arguments (Aristotle, emanuel kant, einstein all agree). I can chose to disbelieve you no matter how much of a god you think you are, and most reporters (and politicians) have forgotten this.

mcplumbercuda on October 19, 2009 at 5:01 PM

Excellently put. And I like the reference to Kant…Critique of Pure Reason, I expect.

Axeman on October 20, 2009 at 12:43 AM

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