Again: Axelrod, Emanuel attack Fox News on morning shows

posted at 12:25 pm on October 18, 2009 by Allahpundit

Via Breitbart, your White House talking point du jour expressed in nearly identical terms on two different shows: Unlike MSNBC and the rest of the media that these two control, Fox isn’t “real news” because it comes with a slant. Candygram for Ax and Rahm from the New York Times: Cease and desist.

It could all be written off as a sideshow, but it may present a genuine problem for Mr. Obama, who took great pains during the campaign to depict himself as being above the fray of over-heated partisan squabbling. In his victory speech he promised, “I will listen to you, especially when we disagree.”…

On the official White House Web site, a blog called Reality Check provides a running tally of transgressions by Fox News. It ends with this: “For even more Fox lies, check out the latest ‘Truth-O-Meter’ feature from Politifact that debunks a false claim about a White House staffer that continues to be repeated by Glenn Beck and others on the network.”

People who work in political communications have pointed out that it is a principle of power dynamics to “punch up “ — that is, to take on bigger foes, not smaller ones. A blog on the White House Web site that uses a “truth-o-meter” against a particular cable news network would not seem to qualify. As it is, Reality Check sounds a bit like the blog of some unemployed guy living in his parents’ basement, not an official communiqué from Pennsylvania Avenue.

The American presidency was conceived as a corrective to the royals, but trading punches with cable shouters seems a bit too common. Perhaps it’s time to restore a little imperiousness to the relationship.

Their strategy of demagoguing Limbaugh as the leader of the GOP made sense because it invited a comparison between Rush and The One, which, given their relative popular appeal, is a good match-up for Democrats. The anti-Fox strategy makes zero sense considering that (a) the public thinks the media is too liberal, which Fox uses to frame itself as a needed corrective, and (b) Fox’s most high-profile competition, such as it is, spent a fair chunk of the Bush years screaming about fascism and insisting that Roger Ailes runs a more dangerous organization than Osama Bin Laden. Not a good match-up. I assume the Fox-baiting is simply red meat they’re throwing to liberals to try to take the heat off on Afghanistan and “don’t ask, don’t tell,” but when even the Nation’s telling them to stop whining, the move to Plan B can’t be long in coming.

Update: I should have mentioned Jacob Weisberg’s attack on Fox as “un-American” in Newsweek here, but forgot. Luckily, Meryl Yourish didn’t.


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Steak Knife Rahm and David Axelturf can keep whining all the want.

In fact, I hope in the coming months they WHINE EVEN MORE.

I hope they whine on these news shows EVERY WEEK.

There is literally only ONE network not lining up with all the others to ardently compete for the right to most ferverently kiss Obama’s ass, and they can’t stop talking about that ONE network.

manofaiki on October 18, 2009 at 4:40 PM

Well the truth must be told.

You just aren’t a legitimate news organization until you fact check a unflattering Saturday Night Live skit about President Obama.

FoxNews hasn’t done that yet… so they are not a serious news organization….

/s

Hog Wild on October 18, 2009 at 2:21 PM

Since when is comedy entertainment real news?

Comedians are entertainers. That is what they do. They take something and make fun of it, or turn it into a skit that makes fun of something, usually something that most people can relate to and of whom most of those will think it is funny. After all it is meant to make people laugh. If they can not do that, they are not comedians.

Comedians, especialy those on Comdey Central and Saturday Night Live, even Jay Leno and the like, have always poked fun at presidents. We all laugh at it, or we don’t, because it does not agree with the image or opinions we hold of who or what they are poking fun at. What concerns me wheather I laugh or not, is that I know that there are people who do not understand that comedy is not gosple true news and as a result believe that it is. Of course there are some that do understand that, but get upset because they believe it is hiting too close to truth or it disagrees with opinons and goals of their own and they, like myself, understands that not every one knows it is not real news.

As far as checking the facts. Watch a video of an event that is not supportive of a liberal view so that you have the same information as both the liberal and conservative news sources, then go read or listen to the liberal and conservative reporting of that event.

My observation is that when both report it and both cite the same resources,the liberal reports often leaves out the parts that are not favorable to them, or redirect the attention away from it. In otherwords ,if they can not hide it, it is filtered to provide only what they feel the public needs to know or in their opinion should know and believe are the facts.

Franklyn on October 18, 2009 at 4:47 PM

You provided one source, with anecdotal evidence. You failed to back up your assertion. You have 30 more mins to prove with multiple, credible sources that 90% of FNC’s hard news stories come from the AP.

crr343 on October 18, 2009 at 4:34 PM

Translation: “I got my getalife kicked again”.

Look, kid, only one source is needed to prove my statement of fact, namely the official Fox News website. Remember, my original statement was that if you go to their website, most of the stories were generated by AP.

You’re obviously too afraid to go there yourself to confirm that I’m not lying.

If you want other sources, Google “Fox News Associated Press”. Plenty there.

As for the evidence being “anecdotal”, it’s not. Fox gives credit to the AP on every one of the stories I mentioned.

Next?

Del Dolemonte on October 18, 2009 at 4:48 PM

Fox News could probably have fun, boost its viewership, and do the Americans a favor, by instructing its staff to investigate Emanuel and Axelrod for crimes and filth. Obama would be nothing without Emanuel and Axelrod, yet they seem exquisitely vulnerable to journalistic investigation. Journalistic freelancers could also make names for themselves by picking such low-hanging fruit.

Kralizec on October 18, 2009 at 4:35 PM

Please know that LGF has its trolls over here copying and pasting comments onto their blog.

Key West Reader on October 18, 2009 at 4:48 PM

LGF is no longer relevant to anything. It can be amusing…but only in a “monkey trying to have sex with a football” kind of way. (Had to clean that up a bit…)

Army Brat on October 18, 2009 at 4:52 PM

Del Dolemonte on October 18, 2009 at 4:48 PM

Ha! I love the way that crr343 gave you a 30 minute deadline. What do you suppose was going to happen if you didn’t meet the little martinet’s demands?

Buy Danish on October 18, 2009 at 4:58 PM

LGF is no longer relevant to anything. It can be amusing…but only in a “monkey trying to have sex with a football” kind of way. (Had to clean that up a bit…)

Army Brat on October 18, 2009 at 4:52 PM

Just be careful, babe.

Key West Reader on October 18, 2009 at 5:00 PM

Del Dolemonte on October 18, 2009 at 4:48 PM

Your evidence was anecdotal. In order for your assertion to be true you would have to provide data proving that “in the aggregate” 90% of FNC”s hard news stories come from AP. That is, all of FNC’s news stories over a significant period of time. Proving that 4 or 5 stories presently on the web site some from the AP is inadequate, anecdotal proof.

You have failed to provide credible, multi-sourced evidence proving your assertion in the allotted time. Your claim is false and you will hereby be considered a liar, and referred to as such by me.

crr6 on October 18, 2009 at 5:00 PM

. . .
This is right out of the Alinsky play book, rule number 5:

Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counteract ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage.”

These people are evil personified, and we must do whatever it takes to stop them. Whatever it takes.
. . .
gary4205 on October 18, 2009 at 4:24 PM

I think that is exactly what is happening to them.

We are ridiculing them, and justifiably so.

First, they tried to blame it all on “crazy tea-baggers” but no one bought their claim. They could see that there were huge numbers of perfectly normal, God-fearing Americans from all walks of life attending the rallies.

Then they tried to make it out to be “racism,” but no one serious would attend that picnic. They sent Carter out to try and sell that crap, and he eventually denied that even he had said what he had said! They tried to blame Rush, they tried to silence Beck . . . but it just kept growing.

Now they are trying to blame Fox.

That’s pretty easy to ridicule!

Trochilus on October 18, 2009 at 5:03 PM

Franklyn on October 18, 2009 at 4:47 PM

You do realize Hog Wild’s post was sarcasm. Right?

Beto Ochoa on October 18, 2009 at 5:04 PM

Army Brat:
That is quite a military career. I and I am sure many others are greatful for his service.

GaltBlvnAtty on October 18, 2009 at 5:08 PM

These fools are doubling-down on stupidity. It ain’t gonna work b/c the listening public won’t buy what they’re trying to sell.

WordsMatter on October 18, 2009 at 5:09 PM

You have failed to provide credible, multi-sourced evidence proving your assertion in the allotted time. Your claim is false and you will hereby be considered a liar, and referred to as such by me.

crr6 on October 18, 2009 at 5:00 PM

Didn’t you already do that?

Do you have any searches showing it is “false” instead of “unproven?” You have 30 mins…

Chris_Balsz on October 18, 2009 at 5:09 PM

Your claim is false and you will hereby be considered a liar, and referred to as such by me.

crr6 on October 18, 2009 at 5:00 PM

if you are calling someone a liar, then they MUST be telling the truth.

right4life on October 18, 2009 at 5:10 PM

Note that Matthews is such a complete head case, that he

immediately claimed his comment had “nothing to do with politics”

Trochilus on October 18, 2009 at 3:35 PM

Actually this is true.

A MSNBC source stated that the “feeling” was nothing more than Matthews dipper leaking again.

DSchoen on October 18, 2009 at 5:10 PM

Protesters chide ‘mainstream media,’ Obama:

By Steven Kreytak
AUSTIN AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF
Sunday, October 18, 2009

Don Putnam said he gets frustrated when he speaks to his neighbors in South Austin and they have not heard about issues that he considers important, those that he learned about through conservative media sources such as the Fox News Channel.

An example, he said, is a story accusing workers at ACORN, a national group dedicated to community organizing, of engaging in various forms of illegal activity. The story broke last month on Fox News, which aired the work of filmmakers who went undercover at several offices of the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now.

Putnam said he was frustrated with the lag between the time that the story was on Fox and when it made onto what he calls the “mainstream media,” including the American-Statesman.

To vent his frustration, Putnam joined more than 40 people with various gripes — including the Obama administration — in a protest at the foot of the Ann W. Richards Congress Avenue Bridge, near an entrance to the Statesman.

They call themselves “tea party” protesters and said theirs was among other protests of media outlets happening across the nation. One of the reasons for the protests was what organizers said was a lack of reporting on previous “tea party” protests.

However, Lily Wright, 54, of Elgin told the Statesman, “You all have been reporting our events,” and in light of that “we really shouldn’t be here.”

Her husband, Dennis Wright, 55, sought to dispel what he said were accusations that the “tea party” protesters were from the political fringe.

“We are not all nuts. We really think that government is going in the wrong direction,” he said.

June Reynolds, 47, of Pflugerville called for more investigations of President Barack Obama’s Cabinet.

“The media,” she said, “is not even investigating.”

skreytak@statesman.com; 912-2946

gary4205 on October 18, 2009 at 5:12 PM

You have failed to provide credible, multi-sourced evidence proving your assertion in the allotted time. Your claim is false and you will hereby be considered a liar, and referred to as such by me.

crr6 on October 18, 2009 at 5:00 PM

You’re funny. Didn’t you get enough facetime on the MSM networks this morning, Rahm?

Key West Reader on October 18, 2009 at 5:16 PM

Do you have any searches showing it is “false” instead of “unproven?” You have 30 mins…

Chris_Balsz on October 18, 2009 at 5:09 PM

The burden of proof is on the positive side of the argument. Del Delmonte made the assertion, it was his duty to prove it.

crr6 on October 18, 2009 at 5:19 PM

“You have failed to provide credible, multi-sourced evidence proving your assertion in the allotted time.”

crr6 on October 18, 2009 at 5:00 PM

How old are you? 12?

Please provide credible, multi-sourced, evidence of your assertion. If you fail to do so within 1 hour it will be taken as an admission that you are a liar and your claim is false.
crr6 on October 18, 2009 at 3:59 PM

guess what?

But you knew that already, didn’t you? Now ask me something difficult.
Del Dolemonte on October 18, 2009 at 4:23 PM

Since your mathematical challenged, that’s 24 min.

Seriously crr6, are you an idiot?

Please provide credible, multi-sourced, evidence that you are not an idiot. If you fail to do so within 1 hour it will be taken as an admission that you are an idiot.

Along with being a parrot, fool and bodily fluid receptacle for Olbermann.

BTW, Did he let you keep the Palin wig?

DSchoen on October 18, 2009 at 5:22 PM

Do you have any searches showing it is “false” instead of “unproven?” You have 30 mins…

Chris_Balsz on October 18, 2009 at 5:09 PM

The burden of proof is on the positive side of the argument. Del Delmonte made the assertion, it was his duty to prove it.

crr6 on October 18, 2009 at 5:19 PM

OUCH! Completely wrong. When you declare a matter is subject to resolution by systematic analysis, a lack of analysis renders the matter “unproven”, not “false”. You’ve failed to do YOUR research. And you’ve wasted 10 minutes.

Chris_Balsz on October 18, 2009 at 5:23 PM

Middle section of Fox News website…of the “top headlines” section, most of them are word-for-word written solely by AP.

AP gets all the credit for this story, right at the top

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,568340,00.html?test=latestnews

As they do for this one

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,568384,00.html?test=latestnews

And this one

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/18/dodd-government-weigh-limits-bank-executive-payouts/?test=latestnews

This one had multiple sources-Fox, AP, and the Hartford Courant:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,568415,00.html?test=latestnews

This one is totally AP

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,568409,00.html?test=latestnews

Ditto here

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,568449,00.html?test=latestnews

and here

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,568360,00.html?test=latestnews

One of the other top 15 headlines actually sources The Boston Globe

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/18/secret-service-refutes-report-claiming-agency-stretched/?test=latestnews

In fact, looking at their top 15 headlines (which do not include the 3 I cited earlier), AP is cited in all but 2, the Boston Globe cite I mentioned and one from Australian news.) Another was a collaboration between Fox and mxPhilly.com. And of the top 15 headlines, about 10 of them were completely written by AP.

That means that at this exact moment, 89% of all the headline stories at the Fox News website were either totally or at least partially written by AP.

Del Dolemonte on October 18, 2009 at 5:25 PM

I think Obama and his henchmen forgot to read the chapter in “Rules for Radicals” explaining how to do battle with a self-described rodeo clown. Can’t you hear those pages being turned in the White House strategy room right now?

I wonder how much of our nation’s GNP is being spent at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue trying to out-maneuver Beck?

Please pass the popcorn.

fred5678 on October 18, 2009 at 5:26 PM

Coincidentally, crr6 is tag-teaming crr343.
Anyone know what crr stands for? Commiepinko Radical Revolutionary also fits, but I’m open to all suggestions.

Just for fun I’ll give a 30 minute deadline for responses.

Buy Danish on October 18, 2009 at 5:26 PM

Ha! I love the way that crr343 gave you a 30 minute deadline. What do you suppose was going to happen if you didn’t meet the little martinet’s demands?

Buy Danish on October 18, 2009 at 4:58 PM

I turn into a pumpkin like her?

Del Dolemonte on October 18, 2009 at 5:27 PM

The burden of proof is on the positive side of the argument. Del Delmonte made the assertion, it was his duty to prove it.

crr343 on October 18, 2009 at 5:19 PM

And I did. As of 5:30 PM EDT, 90% of the Top News Headlines at the Fox News website were either totally or partially credited to AP. Now go play in traffic.

Del Dolemonte on October 18, 2009 at 5:29 PM

Coincidentally, crr6 is tag-teaming crr343.

Buy Danish on October 18, 2009 at 5:26 PM

No, that is just me doing some creative editing in my replies. I add 343 to the names of all the trolls here in honor of one of their own who departed awhile back.

Del Dolemonte on October 18, 2009 at 5:30 PM

Actually, I think I may have answered my own question. I betcha CRR stands for Campaign for Renters Rights.

Buy Danish on October 18, 2009 at 5:31 PM

OUCH! Completely wrong. When you declare a matter is subject to resolution by systematic analysis, a lack of analysis renders the matter “unproven”, not “false”. You’ve failed to do YOUR research. And you’ve wasted 10 minutes.

Chris_Balsz on October 18, 2009 at 5:23 PM

You’re right, I should have said unproven, not false. Still, Del Delmonte failed to prove his assertion.

And I did. As of 5:30 PM EDT, 90% of the Top News Headlines at the Fox News website were either totally or partially credited to AP. Now go play in traffic.

Del Dolemonte on October 18, 2009 at 5:29 PM

You didn’t make the assertion that 90% of the headlines on FNC are from the AP today. It’s too late anyway. You fail.

crr6 on October 18, 2009 at 5:32 PM

Del Dolemonte on October 18, 2009 at 5:30 PM

Tant pis. I was so hoping there were 2 Useful Idiots, not just one.

Buy Danish on October 18, 2009 at 5:32 PM

Fox “News” should remove the “News” from their name. Nothing about that network is “News”. It is agenda-driven anti-Obama drivel 24 hours/day.

Decider on October 18, 2009 at 5:33 PM

Only in the world of liberal irrationality could an aggressive watchdog press keeping its eye on potential government corruption be bad for the country.
There is nothing more dangerous in the world than a government being permitted to conduct its business with no fear of the media spotlight.

While Fox News may go over the top from time to time, I’ll take that so long as it continues to come with their appropriately adversarial relationship with those in political power, because what we’d have instead would be a media in bed with government and providing no watchdog services at all. So they’re hyper critical of the president. So what? Consider the alternative: no coverage of government malfeasance at all so long as a democrat holds office. None. Nada. Zip. Zilch. If Fox News is right about corruption and incompetence in the Obama administration only 50% of the time, they’ll still be reporting it 100% of the time more often than the Obama cheerleading media. That is good for the country.

Rational Thought on October 18, 2009 at 5:35 PM

Wouldn’t you know it! CRR was created by…ACORN. To paraphrase Professor Higgins, I think I’ve got it!

Buy Danish on October 18, 2009 at 5:38 PM

When did I say it was?

crr6 on October 18, 2009 at 4:20 PM

Oh, back when you were throwing around racist Rush quotes, of course. How soon we forget.

ddrintn on October 18, 2009 at 5:39 PM

Fox “News” should remove the “News” from their name. Nothing about that network is “News”. It is agenda-driven anti-Obama drivel 24 hours/day.

Decider on October 18, 2009 at 5:33 PM

they tell the truth…and the TRUTH HURTS, otherwise you wackos wouldn’t care one bit about them..

right4life on October 18, 2009 at 5:41 PM

Fox “News” should remove the “News” from their name. Nothing about that network is “News”. It is agenda-driven anti-Obama drivel 24 hours/day.

Decider on October 18, 2009 at 5:33 PM

And much more popular than the pro-Obama drivel elsewhere. Gets under your skin, doesn’t it?

ddrintn on October 18, 2009 at 5:41 PM

Axelrod you ignorant f**k!

Fox “News” should remove the “News” from their name. Nothing about that network is “News”. It is agenda-driven anti-Obama drivel 24 hours/day.

Decider on October 18, 2009 at 5:33 PM

Really, just because they don’t lick Obamafool’s boney black a$$ 24/7 and actually report what’s going on….and have better looking babes to boot!!

Bubba Redneck on October 18, 2009 at 5:41 PM

Fox “News” should remove the “News” from their name. Nothing about that network is “News”. It is agenda-driven anti-Obama drivel 24 hours/day.

Decider343 on October 18, 2009 at 5:33 PM

Thanks for sharing that, kid.

Del Dolemonte on October 18, 2009 at 5:43 PM

. . .
A MSNBC source stated that the “feeling” was nothing more than Matthews dipper leaking again.

DSchoen on October 18, 2009 at 5:10 PM

Would that be his “entirely objective” dipper?

Because he claimed that as well!

Trochilus on October 18, 2009 at 5:48 PM

These men, the Ax and the Ram, are extremely dangerous people. Those who aid and abet them are as dangerous and should not be tolerated. Our nation is being threatened by domestic enemies and the people should defend our freedoms as all cost from these threats. These toads want to play at and threaten 1st amendment rights, fine, we will invoke the logical order of amendment right to maintain our free society if necessary.

wepeople on October 18, 2009 at 5:50 PM

Ahhh, I see why crr343 has her panties in a bunch.

My original statement was that 90% of the news stories read on Fox News come from AP.

I then provided cites that proved that 90% of the news headlines on their Fox News website come from AP.

An uneducated Leftist like crr343, totally ignorant of how the broadcast news business works, would assume those are two totally different things, but they’re not.

Since time immemorial, broadcast news has been mostly “rip and read”, with some re-writing of AP ticker stories done at some, but not all, channels. I speak from personal experience, as I have in the past held positions as a broadcast news writer, station news director, and news announcer.

I mentioned that some of the stories were “written” by Fox News but also included cites stating that “The Associated Press contributed to this report”. Those are what are called “broadcast-ready” stories, ones that have been ripped from AP and then re-written. The ones that appear on the website are these broadcast-ready stories.

Face facts. All news outlets do it this way. Only a total idiot would believe that 100% of the news stories read on-air over Fox would be written by them alone-there simply isn’t enough time or money for them, or any other news operation, to do so.

Del Dolemonte on October 18, 2009 at 5:58 PM

It’s amazing to me how crass this White House is.

I couldn’t find this blog that’s being referred to, but I did find a link to the budget under “A New Era of Responsibility”

WTF?

And on a different page, a headline that reads, “Taking on the Insurance Companies.”

Last I checked, insurance companies were Americans, too. For some reason, this just rubs me the wrong way – isn’t the office of the president supposed to be above this petty stuff?

Truly bothersome.

johnmackeygreene on October 18, 2009 at 6:03 PM

Seriously they need to pull up their pants and act like big boys.

I’m embarrassed for them and I enjoy seeing them humiliate themselves.

gophergirl on October 18, 2009 at 6:05 PM

You know whats coming next.A move to shut Fox,Rush,Beck,hotair and every truth telling outlet.It will be done so they say in the need for fairness.Whats sad is 45% of the people don,t care has long as they get there free money.2010 is the very last chance we have to save this country.If we fail then total revolution is coming.

thmcbb on October 18, 2009 at 6:05 PM

thmcbb at 6:05
Agreed regarding the importance of November 2010.

GaltBlvnAtty on October 18, 2009 at 6:12 PM

What candy asses. The truth really bothers them and it shows.

cjs1943 on October 18, 2009 at 6:15 PM

These tools are schooled in the method of telling the BIG LIE and repeating it often so that the meme becomes part of the incurious media’s narrative.

onlineanalyst on October 18, 2009 at 6:17 PM

All the Whitehouse has to do is to begin telling the truth, and stop attempting to undermine the Republic, and FOX will leave them alone. Probably too difficult for the Chicago gangsters to do though!

GFW on October 18, 2009 at 6:25 PM

Gotta love how the WH has to use O’Reilly’s ‘Reality Check’ idea… I hope someone clues him in so we can get duelling Reality Checks!

And what is up with the WH having to do a website named after an O’Reilly segment when they have a phone number to publicly air their comments right on Beck’s show? They can’t have broken fingers as someone has to write the website drivel, so they must be able to punch numbers on a phone. Free and public airing right on the show they criticize! Live! Unscripted!

Can’t they actually confront the people they criticize directly? They have that open invitation, after all…

ajacksonian on October 18, 2009 at 6:26 PM

Seriously they need to pull up their pants and act like big boys.

True enough, but not the issue. We need to understand that this is a deliberate strategy.

The Left knows they won’t have a record to run on in 2010, or 2012. Just as they never do. Their only hope is to change the framework and content of public debate, and to degrade and destroy all stuctures (and voices) of opposition. With each continued increment of their failure, watch for a counter-increment of Stalinist attack. They have a chance of surviving only in a totally blasted and degraded political and cultural landscape, a wretchedly equalized environment.

rrpjr on October 18, 2009 at 6:31 PM

You really think he cares about Fox, CNN or anything besides his frigging bank account? The guy is nothing more than a low-rent crook who made millions off his government “service” and he laughs at all of us. And we deserve the ridicule because weren’t not willing to do what he needs to be done to rid this country of vermin like him.

mr1216 on October 18, 2009 at 6:41 PM

And we deserve the ridicule because weren’t not willing to do what he needs to be done to rid this country of vermin like him.

mr1216 on October 18, 2009 at 6:42 PM

“It’s really not news — it’s pushing a point of view.”

Unlike, say, every other major news outlet in the country. Oh, I forgot. That’s not bias. It’s just an objective description of the world that just happens to coincide with the Progressive outlook in every single particular. No coincidence, that. The Progressives are just so smart, they have it all exactly right.

Right.

JDPerren on October 18, 2009 at 6:52 PM

This is right out of the Alinsky play book, rule number 5:

“Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counteract ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage.”

gary4205: It is the ridicule that Beck and Limbaugh use, the very weapon that Alinsky advises, that drives the Left crazy. There is a perfect poetic justice to turning an adversary’s weapon of choice back against him.

onlineanalyst on October 18, 2009 at 7:01 PM

Screw you, Axelrod. Your Orwellian approach to history cannot erase from my mind the manner in which the MSM has treated conservative Republicans since the 1980s. Your ilk no longer has a monopoly and that’s what burns you. But don’t worry – as the Obama administration goes down in flames, FOX news will be there is report when the rats start jumping off the ship. And I, along with 10s of millions of others, will be watching.

pearson on October 18, 2009 at 7:02 PM

Also remember that the most virulent base that supports ObaMAO have been schooled to scoff at the existential threat that Marxism/Maoism posed for civilization. They use the same technique to downplay the danger of creeping sharia and expansionist Islam.

The Lefties assume a superior attitude, accusing their political opposition of stirring fear when, in fact, the Lefties are blind to ideologies that have historically threatened civilization.

onlineanalyst on October 18, 2009 at 7:07 PM

We The People shall stand tall and vigilant and will not allow the Progress-Fascist libbies to have there way. Liberty and Freedom is the way the USA will always be.

hawkman on October 18, 2009 at 7:16 PM

Franklyn on October 18, 2009 at 4:47 PM

You do realize Hog Wild’s post was sarcasm. Right?

Beto Ochoa on October 18, 2009 at 5:04 PM

I was wondering the same thing. Maybe Franklin pulled off the ultimate sarcastic response by pretending to take the comment seriously, and purposely left out the sarcasm tag.

Red State State of Mind on October 18, 2009 at 7:18 PM

Do these geniuses really think they will get Fox News to change their tactic of reporting the news about their man?
Murdoch this week is quoted saying he relished the attention, ratings have never been better.

These Chicago fellows aren’t very smart after all.

FireBlogger on October 18, 2009 at 7:26 PM

Two sewer rats complaining about a couple of cute fuzzy rabbits that laugh at the rats funny tales! (spelling by intent)

Don L on October 18, 2009 at 7:26 PM

FOX news has the top 13 shows on the cable news network. 13 out of 13…and why is that?

royzer on October 18, 2009 at 7:27 PM

Gotta love how the WH has to use O’Reilly’s ‘Reality Check’ idea… I hope someone clues him in so we can get duelling Reality Checks!……

ajacksonian on October 18, 2009 at 6:26 PM

O’Reilly made note of that on a recent show. Given his huge ego, he must be very pleased that the WH co-opted the name.

Red State State of Mind on October 18, 2009 at 7:28 PM

Axelrod, Emanuel attack Fox News on morning shows

Krykee. Opinions are like *ssh0les and all, but can these clowns pander to their base WITHOUT using tax payer dollars??!

Is that too much to ask?

.

locomotivebreath1901 on October 18, 2009 at 7:29 PM

Just remember, too, that 2010 is the timeline that the Dems have set for disbursing the political payoff “stimulus” funds.

onlineanalyst on October 18, 2009 at 7:30 PM

Fox “News” should remove the “News” from their name. Nothing about that network is “News”. It is agenda-driven anti-Obama drivel 24 hours/day.

Decider on October 18, 2009 at 5:33 PM

Again..I state to anyone who thinks like “Decider”, please explain why Fox News’ talent beats CNN and MSNBC in viewers in all age ranges during prime time COMBINED!

Simple reason…the voters TRUST Fox News and see through the bias of CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC and the rest of the MSM.

Obama and the Dems ignore the voters at their own peril. It is as simple as that.

Rndguy on October 18, 2009 at 7:30 PM

crr6, the one tiny acorn, brought reinforcement, via crr343. And then they were two.

What a wuss you must be.

Schadenfreude on October 18, 2009 at 7:35 PM

This can only mean one thing…..BREITBART OR BECK MUST HAVE MORE VIDEOS!!!

Of course this is Alinskys’ playbook (Rules for Radicals).

RULE 5: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.”

RULE 6: “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.”

RULE 8: “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.”

RULE 12: “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”

They are so predictable.

PappyD61 on October 18, 2009 at 7:36 PM

When I see that picture of Axelrod, I evision a guy sitting on the pot trying to relieve himself of the constipation that is the 0bama administration.

glennbo on October 18, 2009 at 7:37 PM

I remember that Sam Donaldson was a big pain in the neck to RWR too. But if Regan had tried to take it out on ABC, Reagan would have had his head on a plate that day for making the head of the free world look petty.

Chris_Balsz on October 18, 2009 at 7:38 PM

Yeah, Fox pushes a point fo view,

It’s not a legitimate news channel.Which is the point here. It’s a conservative-opinion channel, and should market itself as such. Case in point. Wall-to-wall astroturfing for teabaggers, but conspicuous silence on gay-rights protests in DC. They know their audience. White boys crying about tinfoil stories comparing Obama to Hitler. Probably progressoverpeace’s favorite channel, I’m sure.

Grow Fins on October 18, 2009 at 1:11 PM

Mouthing the attack du jour of the White House, I see. Apparently it’s not enough to have the worship of all other news media. The White House must de-legitimize the only TV news that is still critical.

Really, how much sycophancy do they need?

ThereGoesTheNeighborhood on October 18, 2009 at 7:58 PM

It seems a lot of people are confusing the terms legitimate and liberal. Yes, they both start with “l”, but they do not mean the same thing.

Also, sissy-men like Rahm and Axelrod also seem to confuse programming. Beck, O’reilly, Hannity, etc… aren’t news shows.

CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC have consistently proven themselves to be slanted to the left for decades (obviously longer for the networks) – scores of years for you Obama fans. This includes 60 Minutes, 48 Hours, Dateline, MSNBC, morning shows, etc…

The Obama faithful are dumb enough to fall for this. I sincerely hope the moderates can see through this whiny nonsense.

reaganaut on October 18, 2009 at 8:06 PM

PappyD61 on October 18, 2009 at 7:36 PM

Here’s my re-post ’cause I don’t want the trolls to miss it:

Let’s play word association. I say Axelrod. You say astroturf.

Are you with me so far?

The DDD (dynamic democrat duo) on the Sunday talk shows is classic astroturfing. Nobody puts the generals out on the front line. Therefore, they must be desperate (or want to be seen as desperate).

They know that Limbaugh is going to do a remake of Inglourious Basterds “batting practice” scene on them, come Monday morning.

So why would two experienced operatives both do something that appears suicidal?

Because they have to convince somebody of something. But who? Who needs convincing that Duh Won is in deep doo-doo? Not the tea parties. Not the conservatives. Not the leftard base. Who, then?

Duh Won himself. He has to be convinced that it is hopeless for both him and the party. More than that, he has to be convinced that his health care reforms are the killing field.

So the two of them go on and wait for the Monday fallout. The overnight ratings will show Fox up. Monday will show Limbaugh up (revealed in the overnight ratings Tuesday morning).

The blogs (including this one) will be red hot for three days. The conservatives will smell blood in the water, the leftards will be buying Rolaids by the carton, and the DDD will be able to tell Duh Won that he must resign or the democrats will be crushed in 2010.

Then Beck comes out with his next “main event” and piles on. Breitbart follows with more hooker tapes. The snowball grows as it rolls.

I predict that this is the second phase of Operation Switch Horses, which began in Martha’s Vineyard over the summer. The only people who didn’t know the real purpose of that little get together were the Obamas. Everybody else that was there knew that it was to initiate and coordinate the “sliding out” of Duh Won.

A slow motion coup. And they’re hiding in plain sight.

Before the end of the year, he’s gone.

platypus on October 18, 2009 at 3:18 PM

platypus on October 18, 2009 at 8:09 PM

“We’re going to treat them the way we would treat an opponent,” Anita Dunn, the White House communications director, said in an interview with The New York Times. “As they are undertaking a war against Barack Obama and the White House, we don’t need to pretend that this is the way that legitimate news organizations behave.”

Well that explains why Afghanistan has stalled with no new troops or plans.

They’re busy with the really important war against Fox News, and you don’t fight a war on two fronts at once. Once they’ve destroyed Fox News and ended them as a news agency, they can handle a new front… maybe that one will be a war for the American people instead of a war for Obama’s self-absorbed self-interest. Maybe.

And clearly the way a “legitimate news agency” behaves is to give free time to Liberal causes, and avoiding any criticism of liberals; adjusting quotes if necessary. Anything else is bad journalism.

gekkobear on October 18, 2009 at 8:12 PM

. . .
And on a different page, a headline that reads, “Taking on the Insurance Companies.”

Last I checked, insurance companies were Americans, too. For some reason, this just rubs me the wrong way – isn’t the office of the president supposed to be above this petty stuff?

Truly bothersome.

johnmackeygreene on October 18, 2009 at 6:03 PM

Yes, they are. But it depends on what their target industry du jour is, or should I say, of the year — de l’an? Remember: the President specifically chose to make the issue the reform of the “insurance industry” and not “health care” in general. It is typical of Democrat thinking. He wanted a target “bad guy” to go after.

A year ago, and earlier, it was another single company — Wal-Mart that they were after. During the primary, the candidates were falling all over one another, each claiming he or she detested Wal-Mart more than all the others. The object was to win union support to eventually force unionization on Wal-Mart.

And for years the “enemy” was big oil, and in particular Exxon, what with their obscene profits — many of which benefitted small investors, and pension funds, the latter of which Democrats never discussed.

Several years ago, it was the firearms manufacturers. They had a huge stake in taking them down. (Safe to say we can expect that one to return to the forefront.)

This concentrated attack on Fox, however, is somewhat unique, and very, very foolish. Fox has had a very successful business model in a highly competitive cable market. The Administration cannot point to anything even remotely like a possible social harm associated with giving people the news, as Democrats may have claimed in the past, such as with tobacco, or with firearms.

And, particularly because they are in a position where they hold both the White House and Congress, there are very serious constitutional implications for the Democrats in unleashing such a highly targeted attack, even beyond the obvious First Amendment questions.

I suspect that in about 3 – 5 days, the first polls will be released that begin to show that the attack on Fox News has been received very negatively. I also have no doubt that the Obama folks used internal polling as a basis for initiating their attack, but I doubt that they asked specific enough questions.

They miscalculated.

They no doubt think that because the press and media are distrusted by the public, that they can therefore isolate and “pick off” Fox News. Big leap! I’d bet that 65% or more of the people who distrust media coverage, watch Fox News as a result!

The Obama team is confusing apples with oranges, and they are about to learn yet another painful lesson.

It makes my heart soar . . . temporarily. But they’ll be back.

Trochilus on October 18, 2009 at 8:20 PM

Who is the bigger liar Axe or Rahm? Both thugs learned there trade in Chicago. I hope Rush and FNC bury them with record viewership marks. This a fight for the heart and soul of America…don’t give in, dig in and stand up against this soft tyranny!

FloridaMike on October 18, 2009 at 8:24 PM

What’s the point in all this unless they’re up to something concrete/specific?

I’m thinking (for some reason) of when the Germans amassed their artillery on Elsenborn Ridge prior to their Ardennes Offensive in 1944. The Allies were like, “So?” They ignored the implications of what was coming. But I think the position of the American Socialists is much stronger now than that of the defunct German National Socialists back then.

Dr. ZhivBlago on October 18, 2009 at 8:25 PM

Axelrod always looks to me like the guy who would gladly pay you tomorrow for a hamburger today.

Griz on October 18, 2009 at 8:26 PM

Platypus, isn’t Biden in the way here? What are you referring to as their end game?

karenhasfreedom on October 18, 2009 at 8:26 PM

There used to be an axiom about the stupidity of making enemies of people who buy ink by the barrel.This admin is doing a great job of making a 24-7 news/political commentary channel into a completely hostile entity. Eventually even Geraldo and Mara won\’t be able to defend this admin.

jpmn on October 18, 2009 at 8:29 PM

crr6 on October 18, 2009 at 5:00 PM

We’ll let you know when you’re in charge.

massrighty on October 18, 2009 at 8:40 PM

I remember that Sam Donaldson was a big pain in the neck to RWR too. But if Regan had tried to take it out on ABC, Reagan would have had his head on a plate that day for making the head of the free world look petty.

Chris_Balsz on October 18, 2009 at 7:38 PM

I always respected Sam Donaldson. That was because, over the years, he took everyone on . . . Democrat and Republican alike.

Sure, he sometimes appeared suspicious or even mildly scornful in his questioning. And, he had that bad rug.

But he did his job — he watched and reported on how people handled their power. ABC has had a few of them. Jake Tapper is a pretty damn good reporter, too. He is one of the very few with Obama who aren’t openly sucking up to the guy.

Trochilus on October 18, 2009 at 8:44 PM

Why does this administration fear FOX? Because Fox will continue to expose this administrations CORRUPTION and no doubt there is a lot of it. This isn’t rocket science.

redridinghood on October 18, 2009 at 8:47 PM

The Communist’s running our government are setting the stage to shut down all opposition much like Hugo Chavez in Venezuala. They will fail because there is no place for us to go to and we will fight them!

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CrusaderPatriot on October 18, 2009 at 8:55 PM

Platypus, isn’t Biden in the way here? What are you referring to as their end game?

karenhasfreedom on October 18, 2009 at 8:26 PM

He is the game, at least at this stage.

Biden is a known quantity. They need to back up from the campaign promises or risk everything falling in time for even a drunken GOP to sweep the 2010 elections.

Obambi tried to back up on the DADT and got smacked hard for it. He’s trying to walk the fence on Afghan and everybody’s angry and the attacks there keep killing more of our soldiers.

Biden can do what needs to be done without losing any of his cred. He can tell the nutroots to stuff it and get away with doing it. He can triangulate, like Billy Jeff. Obumbles cannot.

Once Biden is in the Oval Office chair, in comes Hildebeeast as VP. The dems will voice vote her in because they stole the nomination from her in the first place.

Biden will not try to get elected on his own in 2012, citing his poor showing in previous contests. That leaves Mrs. Clinton to face Sarah. This is the only way they can possibly stop a Sarah landslide.

If Biden can’t stay (he has numerous medical issues), then HRC is sitting in the Oval Office come election time which is even better for the dems.

If Duh Won doesn’t get out pretty damn soon, the Demon-craps will lose both houses of Congress in 2010 and the White House in 2012.

In Uncle Remus‘ time, BHO would be called a tar baby.

platypus on October 18, 2009 at 8:59 PM

While I’m sure that Barack Obama, Nobel Laureate, wouldn’t mind a “compliant press”, but I pretty much don’t see the current activity as having that as their main mission.

Their mission is to tie FoxNews up with defending itself, that they aren’t looking at what is really going on in Washington.

Today’s FoxNews coverage spent a fairly large period of time talking about this “meme” but not as a “meme”. Clearly, the less that FoxNews viewers know about the various White House and Congressional flim-flams, the happier those flim-flam artists will be.

FoxNews has a squealing pig on their hands, and the best solution to the squealing … is to stick the pig some more.

If their is muck to rack .. rack it. Rack On !!

J_Crater on October 18, 2009 at 9:05 PM

I had no idea AllahPundit (AP) wrote most of the stories listed at Fox. Kudos AP for the work! ;-)

cannonball on October 18, 2009 at 9:10 PM

It’s the new White House stratedgy: cry like a little girl until your opposition gives up!

Keep at it boys, as a former Democrat I can tell you this; it has members of your own party turning away in droves and looking at Fox when they didn’t before. It’s not lost on a soul in America that Fox is the only station keeping us from being American Pravda.

Having the truth get out is what keeps them up at night and terrifies them beyond anything.

Niteowl45 on October 18, 2009 at 9:11 PM

Evidently to these two partners in crime, the 1st Amendment is so passe’.

If only an Executive Order could nationalize Fox News and other news media outlets so that government could get up each morning with nothing but positive reinforcement for our happy “benevolent leader” and his agenda.

TBenton on October 18, 2009 at 9:14 PM

This isn’t just about attacking Fox News. Watch the video closely. They’re issuing warnings to the rest of the media: Don’t cover negative stories that FOX exposes, like ACORN and Van Jones.

bigred on October 18, 2009 at 9:16 PM

“In his victory speech he promised, “I will listen to you, especially when we disagree.”…”

If by listen Obama meant via wiretap then he probably is keeping that promise.

jpmn on October 18, 2009 at 9:19 PM

WAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!

RedNewEnglander on October 18, 2009 at 9:20 PM

Platypus, interesting theory you have here, but one big problem.

I truly believe that Obambi believes he is the king pin. His monumental ego will not allow others to get him pushed aside here. There is NO WAY he bows out gracefully before he loses badly in 2012. Remember, “I WON”.

Also, I think Hillary is distancing herself from this trainwreck by being very under the radar. She had been marginalized as SEcretary of State because Obambi put others in charge of hot areas around the world and those people bypass her and report directly to him. So Hillary can go around the world, rack up the foreign policy experience while not getting sullied by Obambi’s epic failures in the problem areas. Hillary is not the face on the news in those problem areas. She is sitting in the catbird’s seat here and I believe she will not be SOS through 2012. She will cut the rope on the liferaft and allow Obambi to fail all on his own.

karenhasfreedom on October 18, 2009 at 9:24 PM

Takes one to know one, right David? You’re not really an administration, you’re just pushing a point of view.

wordsmithy2009 on October 18, 2009 at 9:37 PM

Axelrod always looks to me like the guy who would gladly pay you tomorrow for a hamburger today.Griz on October 18, 2009 at 8:26 PM

EXCELLENT observation. Whimpy is now his new nickname. :-)

cannonball on October 18, 2009 at 9:48 PM

So Hillary can go around the world, rack up the foreign policy experience while not getting sullied by Obambi’s epic failures in the problem areas. Hillary is not the face on the news in those problem areas. She is sitting in the catbird’s seat here and I believe she will not be SOS through 2012. She will cut the rope on the liferaft and allow Obambi to fail all on his own.

karenhasfreedom on October 18, 2009 at 9:24 PM

I totally agree with this. Look for PIAPS to drop out of the administration in early 2011. She will keep her powder dry until then. By early 2011, she will begin her campaign in earnest and will have a full year to prepare before the campaign comes into full swing in 2012.

glennbo on October 18, 2009 at 9:49 PM

I would also add that during her time in the administration, she will study very carefully the ways this administration operates and will use her knowledge to her best advantage in order to neuter 0bama. Afterall, she is the keeper of the testicle lock box that Rush often referes to when speaking of her.

glennbo on October 18, 2009 at 10:00 PM

The One can rest easy knowing that Chavez must approve of this first step.

I suppose this means that Fox “Faux” News will now be kicked out of the White House Press Club, right? I mean, why would they give press passes to anyone from a phony news organization?

munchnstuf on October 18, 2009 at 10:06 PM

Also on the Obamafile btw
http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaLatest.htm

allahallahoxenfree on October 18, 2009 at 2:28 PM

I went to this site and read for hours and I am sick at my stomach. Is this for real? Also, went to thepostnemail.wordpress.com/ from there.

silvernana on October 18, 2009 at 10:07 PM

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