Did “history” elect Olympia Snowe?
posted at 4:33 pm on October 17, 2009 by Slublog
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I’ve lived in Maine for almost 20 years now, and for 15 of those years, Olympia Snowe has been my senator. So, needless to say, I wasn’t surprised at all by her vote to support the healthcare reform bill. With the exception of national security and some 2nd amendment issues, Snowe is a rather doctrinaire liberal. While her positions may frustrate and/or infuriate more conservative Republicans, Snowe’s views are a good fit for the liberal-leaning voters of this state, which is why she’s won with over 60% of the vote since her first state-wide election in 1994. Although I find Snowe’s views irritating, I have voted for her three times. When push comes to shove, I’d much rather have someone who agrees with me half the time (or even a quarter) in office than someone who disagrees with me all the time. I know that many conservatives do not regard Snowe as much different from the Democrats, but I’d rather have her in office than any of her three challengers.
Were she to get a viable conservative primary challenger, I would vote for that person in a heartbeat. However, I live in a state where the GOP is weak, to say the least. So until the day she is weak enough to defeat in a primary, I will continue to vote for her over the moonbats the state’s Democrat party has run against her in the past.
For the most part, Snowe is responsive to the people she represents and spends a fair amount of time in the state. So while I wasn’t surprised by her vote, I was taken aback by the reasoning behind it.
“When history calls, history calls,” said Maine Republican Olympia Snowe, whose declaration of support ended weeks of suspense and provided the only drama of a 14-9 vote in the Senate Finance Committee.
Nowhere in her statement to the committee does Snowe mention her constituents. She could have easily pointed to those in her state who have advocated for healthcare reform, but chose instead to vaingloriously wrap herself in the cloak of history-maker. Snowe’s statement and vote symbolized the arrogance that has characterized this Congress. Our so-called representatives are moving forward on this bill despite poll after poll showing growing opposition to Obamacare. If members of Congress regarded themselves as servants to the public that elected them, these polls, combined with the anger that Americans displayed during August townhall meetings, should have at minimum slowed the rush to transform our healthcare system. Ideally, widespread citizen concern should have been taken into consideration by members of Congress and the administration instead of being dismissed as the ravings of a ‘racist, wingnut fringe.’
Unfortunately, the current Senate seems to regard itself as a House of Lords, doing what they think is best for those they can’t help but look down upon. Opinion polls, phone calls, letters, and emails against this plan are ignored because in the opinion of the American Lords, the concerns of the proles are subordinate to the wisdom of the elite. The ideals of a representative republic have taken a back seat to the good intentions of those who increasingly seem to believe their role is to look out for us rather than represent our views.
Ultimately, what I find most offensive about Snowe’s statement is the inherent paternalism and ego, the suggestion that she answers not to those who elected her, but to her sense of how history will view her and her actions. Snowe was not elevated to her office by ‘history,’ but by voters like me, many of whom are skeptical of Obamacare. If Snowe runs again, I’m sure she’ll draw a great deal of support. This state is protective of its incumbents, unfortunately.
Snowe’s words display the attitude that had so many Americans protesting at town hall meetings and tea parties this past summer. The anger at government goes beyond simple policy disagreements – many of us have simply lost trust in our elected representatives because they just don’t seem to care about the opinions of those who put them in power. This is a bipartisan problem, and sadly, seems to run in cycles.
Snowe was elected to the Senate in 1994 as part of the Republican takeover of Congress. Voters at the time had lost trust in the Democrat party’s ability to lead. The Democrats had been in control for 40 years. Voters lost trust in the Republicans by 2006, after only 12 years. If present trends hold, the current trust in Democrat leadership will only last four years. The frequency of turnover is actually a good thing, as it shows an electorate increasingly intolerant of corrupt or unresponsive representation.
For that reason, if the GOP takes control of Congress next year, I hope they don’t see it as a broad conservative mandate but as a simple message – voters are tired of politicians who promise change but deliver the status quo. The first party to really understand that all voters want is for the culture of Washington to change and actually works to make those changes will be the party that keeps power for more than a few election cycles.
This isn’t about ideology, it’s about trust.
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Make haste slowly. Very slowly. But do make haste, eh?
unclesmrgol on October 17, 2009 at 4:36 PM
It’s absolutely clear that Maine is liberal in nature. People who rail about her are not politically savvy.
She’s actually doing a good job for your state. Garner power.
I get it.
AnninCA on October 17, 2009 at 4:36 PM
She was on History’s side, her history of being a liberal.
Daemonocracy on October 17, 2009 at 4:38 PM
Yep, we do that here in Michigan…keep voting democrat…it’s the only way to solve the problem…
duh..
Skandia Recluse on October 17, 2009 at 4:41 PM
If it weren’t so cold there, I would move and challenge her. I love lobster, I’m conservative and man can I talk to people. Right now I live in a conservative state, but we are constantly keeping their feet to the fire and ready to pounce. Question is: Slublog – why don’t you run?
suzyk on October 17, 2009 at 4:45 PM
So you don’t personally like Snowe in Maine but vote for just the same because you’re afraid of Democrats? That makes no sense whatsoever!
Snowe is a Democrat… she just goes to Republican meetings because they are cool.
Vote here out.
IntheNet on October 17, 2009 at 4:45 PM
Vote her out!
…Apologies for typo…
IntheNet on October 17, 2009 at 4:46 PM
No. Idiots.
HornetSting on October 17, 2009 at 4:49 PM
The best way to get more conservative politicians in office is to make the electorate more conservative. If you’re not working to spread conservative ideas, don’t expect conservative politicians to win elections.
JohnJ on October 17, 2009 at 4:49 PM
The comparison to Britain’s House of Lords is a good one–except that the Lords have no power except to possibly delay spending bills for a year, but that was effectively ended with Tony Blair flooding the House of Lords with his Loony Left appointees as ‘Life Peers’.
Our Senate has real power, so having unresponsive arrogant Senators is a much greater problem. The House of Lords lost its last real power almost a century ago; the Senate stands in the way ( for better or worse ) of all legislation.
If we are stuck with RINOs in Congress, Maine is one of the best places to have them–because there aren’t enough conservative Republicans to elect a conservative to the House or Senate. The effort to replace RINOs with conservative Republicans should concentrate on Red states and shoot for bluish-purplish states like Virginia, West Virginia, Pa, Montana, etc.
Meanwhile, Snowe will drone on, her verbal flatulence an annoyance but as you said, better than the Likely Alternative
Janos Hunyadi on October 17, 2009 at 4:49 PM
I think it goes a little deeper than that. I believe the electorate are beginning to realize they’re screwed no matter which party they vote into power. The next cycle will start only a few weeks after the GOP take over and then perhaps the curtain will be lifted on this corrupt kabuki theater we call “representative democracy.”
The Calibur on October 17, 2009 at 4:49 PM
It’s like hitting yourself in the head with a hammer, it feels so good when you stop . . . Maine should try it.
rplat on October 17, 2009 at 4:51 PM
Maine is a small liberal state. End of story. No conservative that would please anyone here would ever represent them.
I say the same things to liberals who hate “Blue Dawgs.”
This is about democracy. This is the way it works.
AnninCA on October 17, 2009 at 4:52 PM
And there lies the problem. You need a better class of challenger.
mizflame98 on October 17, 2009 at 5:01 PM
In 1829, the entire state of Maine contracted the terrible blue lobster madness disease. Over 62% of their citizens died. The remaining people did contract the disease, but their illness was limited to genetic brain damage.
Generations later the genetic illness has mutated and spread across the entire northeast. It’s remnants today are todays Democrats.
Jeff from WI on October 17, 2009 at 5:01 PM
While I understand, and to some degree assent to your underlying argument, I think Slublog’s point is that, in this instance, she has not served her constituents well. His point is highlighted in the fact that there was no need for Snowe to vote the bill out of committee. It would’ve done that anyway, Republicans being in the minority. What is egregious is that Snowe allowed for editorial after editorial to be written about how the bill was “bipartisan” (once again revealing the illusion of “bipartisanship”). The duplicity may come to light if and when this bill actually goes to the floor of the senate for a vote. If she votes against that final version, what will be her excuse? History? Did history herald the call for passage out of committee but not final passage in the Senate? History is a fickle thing indeed. She may say that the final version is not what was promised, but that highlights the fact that what came out of the committee wasn’t even a bill, but merely an “outline”. So how can history force her to side with something that is incomplete and so legislatively thin? If she does vote for the final passage, and the bill looks nothing like what was voted out of committee, then why would she vote on something that looks so different than the one that forced history to whisper in her ear to vote for it? By sinking her justification in “history” on a bill that is not yet written, with a public not in favor of it, she has moved beyond ideology, beyond political savvy, and even beyond rank political posturing. And by doing so she has, at least in this instance, lost what it means to be a representative.
Weight of Glory on October 17, 2009 at 5:01 PM
http://www.veteranoutrage.com
STOP MAKING LAME EXCUSES
To the people of maine
If you cannot stop this dumb ass bitch from destroying your country then you ALL DESERVE TO
LOOSE YOUR JOBS
LOOSE YOUR HEALTHCARE
LOOSE YOUR HOMES
LOOSE YOUR BUSINESS
and when the few of you who have jobs are left
you will be taxed at 40% all by the compasionate irs..
Its your damned fault..
I called my senators (both stupid democraps)
I told them my name and i told them this exactly../
Tell my so called senator this message from me personally
If you disobey the will of the american people
If you vote in communism
If you vote to destroy my healthcare
I WILL NOT OBEY your laws
I WILL NOT OBEY ANY LAWS PASSED BY OBAMA
I WILL NOT BOW DOWN TO THE DEMOCRATS
I WILL REVOLT..
Period ..
Tell the senator she is supposed to represent US
Not BETRAY US..
veteranoutrage on October 17, 2009 at 5:02 PM
The problem isn’t the politicians. The problem is the electorate. You can’t change the politicians without first changing the electorate.
JohnJ on October 17, 2009 at 5:02 PM
Oh goodness, both sides need to get a grip. Neither agenda will ever be 100%.
Democrats have the “votes,” only in affiliation, but that’s simply not the case, as we see today.
Democrats are also not always representing liberal areas. yes, Pelosi does. No, a Democrat from the middle-west doesn’t.
And Snowe is a Republican from a liberal state. She’s gaming the system, clearly.
Why not? I can fully appreciate her thinking. When else would Maine, little bitty Maine, ever get leverage?
She’s representing Maine. Clearly.
AnninCA on October 17, 2009 at 5:05 PM
This statement can be applied to 99% of the republicans in Congress and 100% of the dems – career politicians who have never owned or run a business or even held a real job but who see themselves as God’s chosen few simply because they can kiss the most babies and pander best to a larger proportion of the electorate than anyone else, and then have the never to write election “reform” laws that protect their incumbency while hamstringing potential challengers.
It’s constitutional because it’s not at all what Jefferson or Madison or any of the founding fathers had in mind, rather, they had faith in the character of the people who would hold the office and the people who would elect them to it.
(It’s not bigoted to point out that ignorant or state-reliant people shouldn’t be allowed to participate in the process, it’s bigoted to assume that the only people who fall into that group are members of minority groups who would otherwise be excluded ipso facto…)
Read the 5000 Year Leap and it will make you cry when you think about the McCain’s and the Rangels and the Snowes of the world and how screwed up we’ve become.
johnmackeygreene on October 17, 2009 at 5:06 PM
typo: “never” = nerve
johnmackeygreene on October 17, 2009 at 5:07 PM
Another thing that amazes me about Snow is she’s been sporting the same hairstyle for over 30 years.
mizflame98 on October 17, 2009 at 5:07 PM
I wish she’d pull a Specter. At least she wouldn’t be giving obooba his ‘bi partisan’ cover. Susan Collins too. Primaries can change the game.
HornetSting on October 17, 2009 at 5:08 PM
The single most important thing that you fail to grasp in making this statment, is just how dangerous this kind of compromise is. Let me reword it for you so that you see where I am coming from:
“When push comes to shove I would much rather have someone who moves the statist agenda forward half or 3 /4 the speed as someone who takes away all of our freedoms at once.”
paulsur on October 17, 2009 at 5:08 PM
Yep, it’s about trust. Olympia Snowe thinks we should place our trust Big Government when it comes to personal economic security & healthcare. I think she’s nuts. And to the extent that she has the ability to ACT as a Republican senator, I think she’s positively dangerous.
argos on October 17, 2009 at 5:13 PM
Again, Slublog’s point is that by her own admission, she’s not. Slublog is approaching his point about her vote on the bill out of committee.
Weight of Glory on October 17, 2009 at 5:14 PM
If the bill passes, if the result is happier citizens, then her vote will not matter in the least.
My point is that Maine is, by definition, liberal. I don’t think that R or D matters.
What does matter is the tenor of the state.
Do we not respect this?
AnninCA on October 17, 2009 at 5:16 PM
And I thought that Arkansas had all the inbred idiots.
TexasJew on October 17, 2009 at 5:17 PM
Let me see. Who else had that mind set?
MB4 on October 17, 2009 at 5:19 PM
LOL So have I
beachgirlusa on October 17, 2009 at 5:20 PM
Great post.
I get the sentiment…but, do you think they are mutually exclusive? I’m not sure you can have one independent of the other.
Diane on October 17, 2009 at 5:21 PM
Actually, all it shows is that the two party system has failed us.
paulsur on October 17, 2009 at 5:23 PM
I’d like to push Slublog’s point a bit further: what is this concept of “history” that Snowe’s referring to? Surely she must have a good definition and understanding of that concept since it’s the basis of her justification of her vote. Does she mean, “doing something historic”? If that is the case, then that is a pretty low bar without further elucidation. For, many bills can be “historic”; everything from the noble to the insane. So where along that spectrum of “historic” does this bill fall, according to Snowe, and why? If instead she is referring to “History” (big ‘H’) in a more metaphysical sense, as if something outside our history (little h’) that calls out to us, pulling us in a certain “correct” direction, then that is even more troublesome. There is a third sense, which is more likely, and that is her use of “history” is just acting as a rhetorical device to put her justification in something she has no intention to define. She just wants to end all discussion about it, by sinking it in something called ‘history’. This is more likely because of the very arrogance that Slublog referred to. She doesn’t think she has to explain herself. We should just be comforted that she’s doing this for “history”.
Weight of Glory on October 17, 2009 at 5:24 PM
You’re trying to debate a TCP: Totally Clueless Person.
Maybe not ‘casting pearls before swine’, but casting good points before dimwits incapable of understanding what you’re saying
Janos Hunyadi on October 17, 2009 at 5:26 PM
I’m so sick of the elections producing socialists, scoundrels, spineless RINOs and dirtbags just because “the other guy was worse.” When will we find someone who loves his/her country and will honor the Constitution. I would vote for an average guy who stood up and said that he didn’t exactly know the ins and outs of being a senator/congressman, but had common sense, and understands that you can’t solve our debt problem by spending more. I would vote for anyone who didn’t have a political machine behind him/her. Can we start a huge national write-in campaign and get rid of both party picks?
BitterClinger on October 17, 2009 at 5:27 PM
Snowe is on her last cycle. I think she is going to say and do things that will betray your theory. She is an old establishment Republican and almost as responsible for our current situation as anyone else in the ruling class.
Had she had a different vision of herself and her responsibility to her people, she would have been the first to drive stake through the heart of the healthcare issue and demanded that they work on really helping people, and not robbing trillions of dollars from the healthcare industry, enslaving their workers into unions, and devastating the care for Americans.
Or, she could be just 3/4 of the time on target??
Sometimes you just have to admit you made a mistake in supporting someone who did 300 million people wrong. That’s a pretty bad mistake. Perhaps you are right, maybe being almost right a bunch of times has merit. Then again….
archer52 on October 17, 2009 at 5:27 PM
Again, that’s Slublog’s point. The citizens are ALREADY not happy with what’s being done (pick any poll, if you trust them). Thus, you’re saying that we are to just be comforted with the idea of, “you’re gonna love it, I promise. I know what I’m doing.” But Slublog made the point that it’s about trust.
Maybe, maybe not, but that’s besides the point. Because Snowe’s committee vote, did nothing in actual representation. How could it? It was just a framework, not actual legislative language. In fact, the bill promised 892 billion over ten years, yet Reid said 2 trillion. Which amount is “history” calling for? Does Snowe know? Doubt it.
We do, which is why I agree with your underlying point, but it doesn’t apply here, for the very reason that this was a committee vote on a non-bill, whose outcome was not dependent upon a single republican.
Weight of Glory on October 17, 2009 at 5:35 PM
ann has a point tho, what good does it do to hate on her 1500 days adn then vote for her on the day it counts?
Chris_Balsz on October 17, 2009 at 5:36 PM
TERM LIMITS for Congress will be the ONLY way to get some real accountability.
Until we come together and demand term limits for all elected leaders, we’ll just have to sit back and take their abuse of power.
indy8 on October 17, 2009 at 5:38 PM
I like her. She’s not like 343 or afrolib, or crr6. She actually makes points, defends them, and actually converses with others. The others simply lob “i love Obama Republicans suck” bombs, and leave.
Weight of Glory on October 17, 2009 at 5:38 PM
The real issue is that the GOP use to own New England and all of the Republican office holders from New England were real conservatives…. Now most of New England are blue states and the few Republicans that hold office in New England are Democrats in costume!
The problem is one for Steele and the GOP to solve…
WE NEED REAL REPUBLICANS TO RETURN TO NEW ENGLAND…
IntheNet on October 17, 2009 at 5:42 PM
While everyone is tossing in their “I’d likes..”, here’s mine: I’d like the Republican National Committee to cut off every pennies worth of political support for Ms. Snowe. They’re giving her MY money and that’s about to end. If they won’t shut her off, I’ll shut them off. The very same goes for every other RINO out there. Period.
GoldenEagle4444 on October 17, 2009 at 5:45 PM
History’s primary residence is not in Maine. Nor, did History register to vote in Maine. So, if History did elect Olympia Snowe that’s voter fraud.
Blake on October 17, 2009 at 5:45 PM
We couldn’t enact TERM LIMITS even when the GOP owned the White House and both Houses of Congress… no way it will happen…ever…
IntheNet on October 17, 2009 at 5:45 PM
Okay, to Each his Own.
IMHO, stubbornness is not a virtue; persistence in ignorance can breed disaster.
I’ve seen her hijack threads with a dozen or two comments within a hour, completely sidetracking any worthwhile debate.
Most of her ‘points’ are gibberish and meaningless, and trying to argue with people like this is like eating gruel with a fork
Janos Hunyadi on October 17, 2009 at 5:48 PM
And she should do it as a Democrat instead of lbeing a useful tool for libs and the media to claim bi-partisanship every time she votes with her fellow dems.
xblade on October 17, 2009 at 5:49 PM
I’m stealing that.
Weight of Glory on October 17, 2009 at 5:54 PM
Yeah, but your hair looks pretty nice, if that’s really you on your site.
It’s certainly not school marmish, as is History Girl Snowe’s.
TXUS on October 17, 2009 at 5:55 PM
Correction: She’s been wearing the same BAD hairstyle for over 30 years.
mizflame98 on October 17, 2009 at 5:55 PM
http://antiantiunderground.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/2009_10_15_OLYMPIAANDSUSAN1.jpg
I thought this image was appropriate…
MeatHeadinCA on October 17, 2009 at 6:03 PM
I lived in Maine for 12 years. I have had Olympia lie directly to me about how she planned to vote on a gun issue. I have seen how the Country Club folk who run the party in Maine have no problem at all with her backstabbing as long as the A-list parties continue and the base does not get to restive and perhaps remove them from their control of the candidate process. I have also seen the republican vote drop away, not because folk are not still Conservative in that base but because they realize they have no voice in the party in that state.
Snowe behaves as she does because she knows she can. The 10% of the republican vote in Maine that counts, the folk who select the candidates and write the checks, are in her corner while the 90% who go to rallies, stuff envelopes, walk door to door in the rain and cold, those folk, who have little to nothing to say about the good Senator, are dropping in number every day and with every vote she makes.
Snowe and Collins and the socialists in Augusta are a major part of the reason my family left and now live in a free state.
Fire the woman and get an honest communist n her place. Then perhaps folk will note the result. It will not be all that different from Snowe’s record and will not have the fig leaf of a republican title.
JIMV on October 17, 2009 at 6:19 PM
While you, Slublog, have to eat the gruel you’re served or go without dinner, we in Texas have our excellent steak dinner turned into stale hamburger meat with mushy potatoes by your “enlightened” senatorial chefs.
In other words, your senators regularly cancel out our senators’ votes, as do those from other states, to be honest.
Which presents us a dilemma. Do we secede from the union, again, and become a self-sustaining nation state as we were before signing up to begin with?
Or, do we split into five separate states, as is our right to do, thus giving us 10 senators instead of 2?
Either way, the
steaksstakes would be huge._______
BTW, thanks for your insight. Great article!
TXUS on October 17, 2009 at 6:21 PM
As long as they leave.
Your 5:24 post is historic (and good).
Spirit of 1776 on October 17, 2009 at 6:28 PM
Its me, warts and all.
beachgirlusa on October 17, 2009 at 6:35 PM
Warts AND a bikini, hawt girl! :)
HornetSting on October 17, 2009 at 6:41 PM
Dude, her ACU rating of 12 in 2008 put her in the left 1/3 of the Democrat party. Her 20 in 2007 put her in the left 1/2. She’s more liberal than most of the Democrats.
I don’t challenge your logic, but it’s important to get the context right. She is a Democrat. She makes Ben Nelson and Bill Nelson (Democrat Senators) look like neo-cons.
Jaibones on October 17, 2009 at 6:43 PM
Well, then, I’d call you down right “shiney”.
Those warts, of course, can be dealt with.
: ^ )
TXUS on October 17, 2009 at 6:47 PM
I can be politically savvy and still rail about Snowe. She’s a galactic pain and infamously unreliable and I wish Maine would send out a better legislator.
That doesn’t mean I don’t understand that Maine is getting exactly what it wants in Her Ladyship Olympia Snowe, Duchess of Augusta.
Lehosh on October 17, 2009 at 6:48 PM
She is “out of her mind” giving the dems a degree of cover on this abomination of a health care bill when the actual bill has not even been written. What finally comes out will probably be much worse than anything projected to date.
duff65 on October 17, 2009 at 6:48 PM
It also gives us lame ducks with no accountability.
Mangy Scot on October 17, 2009 at 7:19 PM
Then enact term limits, with a post-career vote on whether or not that legislator can draw a pension.
Lehosh on October 17, 2009 at 7:25 PM
The Northeast Leftwing state of mind is difficult for many of the rest of the nation to remain patient with, except from among more of the Leftwing who are in the nation elsewhere.
I respect Maine’s “Republicans” to support Snowe, but it’s the Senate she’s in and she — like other Senators — doesn’t “just” represent Maine and even that by her own admission (she speaks of “ideologies” and generalizes about how it is her constituents want her to ‘work the problem’ without Party loyalty or association, “just work the problem”)…
I appreciate your post here. But Snowe typifies, if such a thing can be said, the RINO contingency that fails to make changes that help and benefit the nation, but that serve to undo it (and the nation along with that).
The only conclusion I can come to is same as other comments here and that is: TERM LIMITS.
It’s like California — two Senators embedded in the U.S. Senate who are as Leftwing as can be and no amount of voting otherwise can remove them or move them. So I think TERM LIMITS in Congress are the answer. The existing terms for Senators is too lengthy, anyway.
Lourdes on October 17, 2009 at 7:31 PM
While in the War Room,I better put an X on the big map,
indicating that Maine at present is hostile and for now,
is controlled by Liberals,for the time being that is!!
Well,look on the brightside,at least Maine isn’t next
door to Vermont,with New Hampshire seperating the two,
and yes,I’m just kidding!!
Historical?
Well,according to the State Runned Media,that’s the present
narrative and perception,of Obama,so,I guess it *trickled
down to Olympia Snowe!
*(canopfor,is not in any fashion,or form referring to
trickle down economics,or slighting Reagans policy in
any aspect)
canopfor on October 17, 2009 at 7:32 PM
Amen to that. Maine has term limits for its state legislators.
Slublog on October 17, 2009 at 7:32 PM
This writer is ALREADY TRYING TO DOWNPLAY THE NEXT ELECTION RESULTS!
What a useless political hack of a position. After preaching of political compromise and all its issues, they just ramble right into an even if you toss the bums out, keep the status quo.
There is absolutely NO reason to be sending MONEY to Snowe UNLESS you SUPPORT her POSITIONS! If the national republican party continues to support her, then that party is clearly NOT interested in a CONSERVATIVE government.
Freddy on October 17, 2009 at 7:38 PM
Snowe is the defective product of the GOP having low expectations regarding quality of the candidates they run in Maine. Snowe is a weathervane of dubious integrity precisely because that is what she expects will be expected of her and no more.
viking01 on October 17, 2009 at 7:45 PM
Snowe answers to Maine voters, so there is your answer. She is doing what most of the voters there want. When she stops doing that they will presumably elect someone else. We can moan about it, but that is what is going on.
Mr. Joe on October 17, 2009 at 7:49 PM
Snowe-job ! You know that thing that your friend Arlen Spectator did a few months ago ???
DO THAT ! PLEASE !!!!
cableguy615 on October 17, 2009 at 8:18 PM
When asked to explain its choice of Olypia Snowe, history explained:
“When nature calls, nature calls.”
Ted Torgerson on October 17, 2009 at 8:33 PM
Is Maine in Canada?
BHO Jonestown on October 17, 2009 at 8:35 PM
Outstanding post, Slublog.
+ 24 Nobel Peace Prizes
Rosetta on October 17, 2009 at 8:36 PM
http://www.veteranoutrage.com
I Absolutely LOVED the Quote of
Its about TRUST not Ideology.
when you Or anyone runs for PUBLIC OFFICE
YOUR RUNNING FOR
PUBLIC OFFICE..
this Entails and demands that the promises you made
to the electorate you will keep..
I am sick to death of these carrer CRIMINALS
in congress who switch parties at their lesure..
NO absolutly NOT..
These SCUM BAGS in congress and the HOUSE are
supposed to represent all of US..
YOU KNOW ..
THAT LITTLE THING CALLED
A REPRESENTATIVE..
If you want to run as a damned dumb ass liberal
At least have the BALLS to put it on your ballet..
BEFORE you run for office..
but thats the rub isnt it because EVERY one of these
CREEPS and CRETINS in Congress and the House
KNOW if they put down their a liberal they would get thrown out on their lying asses..
I am beginning to think TERM limits is the answer..
But i want more
I want AFTER you server 6 years
you can NEVER EVER EVEN
TALK too or LOBY any person in our government for the same amount of years you served..
I am sick of these liars in congress
I am sick of these costumed so called conservatives who then vote for EVERY communist law they can think of..
Oh and if they pass this piece of CRAP LAW
I WILL NOT OBEY IT
I will pull an obama and GEITNER
and do EXACTLY what the democrats are doing..
I will just start to CHEAT ON MY TAXES
Not reporting income like the all the hollywood celebrities
and then maybe i will get a job in obamas government
since my resume has now been updated to LYING , CHEATING and outright FRAUD.
veteranoutrage on October 17, 2009 at 8:37 PM
I found her reasoning maddening as well…. and the idea that the status quo is unacceptable so any alternative that can get enough votes should be accepted (another meme I have been hearing a lot lately) is also wrong headed. Congress is certainly capable of coming up with a system that is in every way inferior to the one we have.
painfulTruthDisciple on October 17, 2009 at 8:42 PM
She’s the Sandra Day O’Connor of the Senate. Vainglorious.
Attila (Pillage Idiot) on October 17, 2009 at 9:06 PM
Don’t mean to hijack a thread, but just read on Ace that Sharpton is threatening to sue Limbaugh for the things he said about him in his WSJ article. Is that rich or what?
silvernana on October 17, 2009 at 9:33 PM
Here’s another one – Fox fired Mark Lamont Hill last week for supporting cop killers on O’Reilly per Accuracy in Media.
silvernana on October 17, 2009 at 9:54 PM
Check this out!
SNL-Tina Fey PARODY at San Diego TEA PARTY EVENT
Great lines include:
* “I can see relevance from my house”.
* “I always park my Jag next to a Prius”.
* “I will accept this award on behalf of all my future achievements.”
* “When history calls, history calls”. (A tribute to Senator Snowe)
Mutnodjmet on October 17, 2009 at 10:02 PM
Justice Harry Blackmun must have felt exactly the same with his abortion vote. I wonder how he views his decision fifty million killed babies later.
RJL on October 18, 2009 at 12:21 AM
Olympia Snowe is delusional. She says that the GOP left her. Excuse me, but tell me where in the history of the Republican Party there is any evidence that the GOP would support reckless multi-trillion dollar deficit spending and socialized medicine? Republicans down through history would tell Snowe that multi-trillion dollar deficit spending and socialized medicine are measures that no Republican would ever support.
Phil Byler on October 18, 2009 at 12:28 AM
Is Maine in Canada?
BHO Jonestown on October 17, 2009 at 8:35 PM
It may as well be ! Let Labrador take it ! It borders on New Brunswick anyway !
This is the kind of (ahem) “conervatism” we Canucks here have tried to avoid ! Well, some of us . Of course we have not been that successful…
cableguy615 on October 18, 2009 at 1:18 AM
You only need to use Dippity-Doo once and it’s set for life.
Shy Guy on October 18, 2009 at 1:47 AM
Walter Matthau in Drag
Angry Old Woman
Kini on October 18, 2009 at 3:27 AM
Arrogant, elitest, narcissistic, bitch that is disconnected from reality.
I also love the vote percentage red herring. If the 25% are on relatively unimportant votes and she repeatedly screws us on the most critical ones, SHE NEEDS TO GO!
Hard Right on October 18, 2009 at 4:55 AM
LOLOL…..Iknew I saw him/her somewhere but I couldn’t put my finger on it!
Jeff from WI on October 18, 2009 at 5:41 AM
She didn’t even do that – support a health care reform bill. All Snowe supported was moving a legislative shell forward so that the dems could continue on with their un-Constitutional plans for a federal expansion into health care, with an eye to national socialized health care, including all the goodies that come with it, such as the power to dictate far more of people’s personal choices (since everything affects health, which the feral government expects to be paying for, when people are on their insurance).
If Snow had been voting for an actual bill, then that would have been something different. It would not have been good, but nothing like this travesty that she has kept alive.
progressoverpeace on October 18, 2009 at 6:24 AM
Slublog,
Quit blowing snowe up your bohunkus and start changing things for the better.
At best you are talking about a delaying action.
Take the offensive!
Stepan on October 18, 2009 at 6:28 AM
Maine went liberal just like Vermont did and for the same reasons. Back-to-the-land hippies moved here in the seventies from Massachusetts, Connecticut, Rhode Island and New York and took over. Even New Hampshire has fallen to them. Olympia has always had her finger in the wind and she blows with it.
There are conservatives up here still, but we’re getting lonelier all the time. Sometimes though, I think there may still be a silent majority of quiet, shy conservatives, and the upcoming vote to repeal homosexual “marriage” may reveal that. Could a some good conservative candidates galvanize them? Maybe. Maybe not.
Most times, however, I think that nothing is going to change this but the utter failure of liberal policies now being enacted here in Maine and nationwide. We conservatives see it unfolding, know what’s ahead, and are trying to stop it, but it probably has to run its very painful course. If we get more socialized medicine, it will accelerate the collapse. Let’s just hope we can still pick up the pieces afterward and rebuild.
Tom McLaughlin on October 18, 2009 at 6:38 AM
So are there enough “moderate Taliban” for Obama to negotiate with ?
In the US, the only “moderate Taliban*” that Obama can negotiate with seems to boil down to Olympia Snowe .. and she won’t guarantee that she won’t change sides in the end.
* “Taliban” as defined by the DNC
J_Crater on October 18, 2009 at 9:31 AM
I vacationed in Maine 2 weeks ago for the first time in 50 years (was a child then). I got an email from one hotel asking about the service etc.
I replied that the service was great but I wouldn’t go back to Maine again to vacation because of Snowe’s vote last week.
Boycott the state – no vacations, no lobster and no LL Bean and let them know why.
Votes have consequences!
txdoc on October 18, 2009 at 9:40 AM
Now, Jeff… you DID make that up , didn’t you?
oldleprechaun on October 18, 2009 at 11:56 AM
FWIW, the Bangor Daily News poll asking “Do you agree with Sen. Snowe’s decision to support the Democrat’s health bill?” returned 21% ‘yes’ and 79% ‘no’, with 1881 total responses.
Slublog’s right about her opponents, though. I suspect the Democrats pick the candidates they do to placate their lunatic fringe while assuring Snowe sub rosa “we won’t run a viable candidate against you if you play ball with us on the important stuff.”
It’s important to keep in mind that Maine’s very much an Establishment state and Snowe’s a part of that Establishment. A conservative opponent might have a chance with the voters but that opponent is going to get no play in the state’s media unless he/she’s a tax-cheating pederast.
PersonFromPorlock on October 18, 2009 at 4:52 PM
Easy to sit on the sidelines and state how weak the GOP is…Time for the Teddy Roosevelt quote for you to digest and get off your butt and help create a strong GOP…
You have no excuse voting for Olympia Snowe, except you were afraid to enter the arena…
right2bright on October 19, 2009 at 9:09 AM
Comments have side-tracked the point of the post, which is the arrogance revealed by Snowe’s “history” comments.
Maine is Maine. Like it or not, Snowe’s vote is helpful to conservatives far more often than the vote of a Democrat Senator would ever be. Is she what I wish the people of Maine would elect as their Senator? No; not even close. Are they going to elect someone I’d like any time soon? I doubt it.
The issue here is the disconnect between constituents and their representatives. Snowe, et al. don’t owe constituents fealty – the whole theory of representative democracy is we elect people to make decisions on our behalf & they exercise their independent judgment in making those decisions, then we decide whether they’re doing the job when (if) they run for re-election.
IMO, public opinion polling has bastardized the job – it has led to “representatives as weather vanes”, finger firmly in the air hoping to discern a breeze and vote accordingly. That’s not what the system was intended to be.
“History” bothers me because it indicates her focus is not on the merits/demerits of the legislation, which is where it should be.
BD57 on October 19, 2009 at 10:29 AM
This the fallibility part of those who agree with you, that voting for a McCain is preferable than allowing a President Obama to get elected. I am one of those who disagrees. Why? Because there will never be a person put up to take out an incumbent like her until she loses her support and power. Yes, you will get 4 years of crap but four years of crap that can be set on your opponent lock, stock, and barrel. Then you can bring in some fresh blood that will KNOW that they aren’t Lord All Knowing Historical Purveyor but answerable to a GOP constituency that will hold them ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS!
Sultry Beauty on October 19, 2009 at 2:09 PM
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