If Hot Air is perceived to be a pro-Palin web site let me put it this way: Michelle, Ed and AP have not expressed any favoritism towards Palin in their threads. If Palin supporters respond to these threats it is done on a voluntary basis, and by the way Huckabee supporters have every right to do so as well. If Huckabee supporters do participate it might lead one to believe that Hot Air is definitely not a pro-Huckabee site. But neither does Palin supporter participation make HA a pro-Palin web site either especially with AP’s predominantly snarky comments on Palin and his efforts to do anything within his power to marginalize her.

Calling this a pro-Palin site has nothing to do with what Alluh or anybody uses to start the post. It has to do with what the members of this site right. Over at the other article about Sarah being killed by Romney and Huckabee, look at the responses. 90% of them are responses that are supporting Sarah Palin. I think Allah just wants to have anything to do with Palin up because then he will get a huge response. I wonder if he gets paid for how many responses there are? Each and every time he puts up some article or news about Sarah the resposes usually range between 500-1,000…mostly defending her. This IS a Sarah Palin website.

DFCtomm on October 18, 2009 at 12:05 PM

Im with you. Huckabee is a funny guy, more suited for a variety tv show than running the government. Him not dropping out of the primaries last yr caused the GOP to end up with McCain. by the time Pa had their primary, McCain was the only one left to vote for…and a lot of folks were pissed because they couldnt vote for Mitt.

Once and for all, HOT AIR is NOT a pro-Palin web site.

Pull it back up, maybe you can squeeeeze it to 600 comments….

Thank you for your kind and not critical response.

Mike Huckabee has made lots of the same kind of statements about his feelings on the defense of America and a strong military. It seems even if he talks about it on his show, “Huckabee” the MSM and even other Republicans are still ignoring what he says..just like they did in the primary of 2008. He has backed Pres. Bush’s Iraq policy except the stubbornness of staying the same course when it was obvious we needed to change course.

I’ll bet if you looked into MH’s policies as Gov. in Arkansas with what he had to deal with,you might change your mind on him being a Fiscal Conservative. Spending went up during his tenure, but the state grew also. The percentage of spending compared to the growth was on par with other states. Now if CFG just mentioned how much the spending went up..you can see how he would look like a big spender. But with the state growing, it makes a big difference in explaining that spending. You see how the ads and CFG critiques of Huckabee were slanted???

As I have stated before, Forbes wants Mitch Daniels, Gov. of Ind. to run for President. He thinks he would be a great President. I live in Indiana and we had high property taxes. Gov. Daniels raised the Sales Tax and the Cigarette Tax to help pay for reducing the Property Taxes. Now Gov. Huckabee raised some taxes too, but it was soooo bad for Mike Huckabee, but Gov. Daniels is still the golden boy for the Fiscal Conservativees. They ignore it that he raised taxes too.

Why do the Wash Elite do this to Mike Huckabee and Sarah Palin for that matter?? I read in an article in a magazine,that the Washington leaders will not support a Social Conservative Christian. They want the Fiscal Conservatives or moderate Conservatives to represent the Rep.Party…i.e. Mitt Romney!!! Why can’t they see that this is the kind of candidate we had run in 2008, McCain…a moderate who couldn’t win in the general because people thought if you are going to have Dem. light, you might as well vote for the real Dem, Obama. Don’t they ever learn…why don’t they get out in the middle of the country and see what the REAL conservatives think rather than just the East and West Coast people?

http://www.conservatives4palin.com/2009/06/governor-palins-budgets-pointing-out.html

Governor Palin has been very clear in her view of America’s role, and her understanding of its friends, and enemies. She understands “American Exceptionalism,” and the imperative of the US remaining the preeminent military power in the world, as paramount to our nation’s security. As Commander-in-Chief she would aggressively defend our nation. Her recent policy statements on the War on Terror, and recommendation to President Obama that he quickly honor our ground commander’s request for thousands of American soldiers affirm her security posture. It is not that other Republican candidates would not be equally aggressive on national security and the defense of liberty; but rather the significant distinction is in the broader political context reflecting that she is a fiscal conservative, demonstrated by her aggressive cost cutting and tax reduction policies as Governor; social conservative; and national security conservative; which makes her the candidate who is in a position to unite these three legs of the Republican electorate.

Now there is the possibility that economic conditions in the US could deteriorate to the point that many Republican voters will become equally enthusiastic about any Republican candidate. However, this would require social conservatives becoming excited about Governor Romney; or fiscal conservatives becoming excited about Governor Huckabee. In addition, both of these candidates will likely damage each other in the primary process, and the liberal media establishment will greatly assist them in their efforts. Governor Romney will excoriatate Governor Huckabee as a tax and spend Governor; and Governor Huckabee will lambast Governor Romney for his universal health care program, and his politically expedient position on abortion.

Your analysis of Sarah Palin being a candidate for all three legs of the Republican Party is confusing to me. How is she anymore knowledgeable as a national security Conservative than Huckabee or Romney? How is she more viable in the Fiscal Conservative dept.? Obviously, Palin and Huckabee will get the support of the Social Conservatives.

Mike Huckabee may not be a very good candidate for the West right now, but in 2008, he didn’t get the chance to talk to them. He didn’t have much money and concentrated on the beginning states and the south which he was pretty successful in being #1 in those states, beating McCain and Romney. He didn’t have the money to go out West. If the people out West get an opportunity to hear and see him, I believe he will get many more states out West. Nobody knows now.

Huckabee received a lot of the Christian voters in 2008, but not all as you can see by McCain and Romney percentages. But Huckabee also got a lot of the Republican vote too. He has scored as the #1 candidate in 2-3 of the PPP polls with Independents and Dems. Romney has as well, but Sarah has not done very well in that Dept. So, in the general, it looks like Huckabee and Romney would do a lot better than Sarah unless the voters stayed home.
With the way we all hate Obama and fear for our country, hopefully the voters will come out in 2012 to beat Obama. With Huckabee’s show, many more people across the U.S. that didn’t even know who he was in 2008, now know him and like him. So I’m not sure your evaluation is accurate. Look at my post above that gave a indication from the article’s perspective of a Huckabee and Romney run in the general election. If the Palin, and/or Romney voters if those candidates are not the nominee would support Huckabee, I think he has a very good chance of beating Obama. Mike Huckabee got over 48% of the Black vote in Arkansas when he ran for Gov. – 2nd term. He is the only Republican candidate who has a CHANCE to capture a bigger (even a small amt bigger) in the 2012 election. That might help the Republicans win too.

I have already stated that after the primary, Mike Huckabee won ALL the internet polls until about 1 month before McCain chose Sarah for VP. At that time, Romney started winning some with Huckabee second. If you will remember, Sarah wasn’t even on any of the internet polls. Did that stop McCain from choosing her? No, did it help that Huckabee won most of the other internet polls, NO! I’m sure McCain followed the professional pollster polls, but didn’t follow the internet polls to see who was more acceptable to the American people. I never have said Romney and Sarah supporters are from Mars????

I can’t speak for all the Huckabee supporters but I guess that right now we haven’t been looking for the internet polls to compete in because it’s so far out. And after what we saw last year that it didn’t make any difference on the internet polls, maybe people aren’t looking for them. As you can see from the Rasmussen poll there are certainly many Huckabee followers – he has gained 44% of all the voters. But we did all that last year and it didn’t help Huckabee at all with McCain. At the time I know I thought people will see how well liked he is because he is winning all the polls. When I listen to the commenters on HA, it sure doesn’t show that. I’m not sure that people on this site even knew that Huckabee was winning all the polls after the primary was over and before Sarah was picked. So you see, how much influence do the internet polls really have if on this Conservative website people didn’t pay attention last year?

I don’t know if the Huckabee followers would start being really serious about voting in all the internet polls because it’s too early – 3 years away!

How can you say you won’t take Huckabee seriously when he beats Sarah Palin 55-35 when they are against each other one on one? Yes, this is just one poll, but Huckabee won in every PPP poll for the last 6 months. These are people who were chosen at random across the U.S. Not internet polls where each candidates fans are told to go vote on a particular internet poll. Do you think if the Huckabee fans didn’t know or think it’s too early or whatever that he isn’t in the top tier? You can’t have the professional ones saying that and not believe he is a viable candidate. Now if the professional polls indicated that Mike Huckabee was at the bottom of the pack consistently, no matter how many Huckabee won on the internet polls, I would believe the professional polls because they are at random polls, not based on how many of their supporters went to vote.

As I have stated before Romney & Paul voters know how to cheat on the internet polls and vote many times. How could they be accurate then?

THESE (INTERNET)POLLS ARE MEANINGLESS IN THE WORLD OF AUTHENTIC POLLS. THEY ARE BASED ON HOW MANY PALIN OR ROMNEY VOTERS COME TO VOTE, NOT WHAT AMERICAN VOTERS THINK

COMMENT:

1)Saying some method is more “authentic” than others is an elitist way of dismissing alternative paths to the truth

2)So called “authentic” polls can be manipulated by the amount of respondents, the makeup of the respondents, where they live, the income of the respondents, the question that is asked and the agenda of the pollster and so on. Pretending that polls like Rasmussen, Gallup and PPP are completely accurate is foolish. The reason why Rasmussen is given more credence is that he polls likely voters and not “adults” and his daily tracking poll results are more accurate as they show trends, but this does not mean his assumptions may not be totally correct

3)You imply that Palin or Romney supporters are from Mars and not American voters. That is ridiculous. Remember the votes are voluntary. You might ask why do people vote in Internet polls. Could it because they are passionate supporters of these folks? Could it be because they are Internet literate? And could the reason that Huckabee can only generate 8% of the vote in this poll and finishes near the bottom in other Internet polls be because his supporters are “soft” or that they may in be overwhelminingly internet illiterates. Don’t get me wrong I don’t care how Huckabee supporters conduct their lives but if this is a profile of Huckabee supporters the question must be asked even if Huckabee gains the 2012 GOP nomination how is he going to beat Obama who has mastered the use of the Internet without having a major presence or support on the Internet, especially those folks under 40? I will continue to ask that question until Huckabee proves to me he can do better in Internet polls. A frontrunner for the GOP nomination should not be polling less than 10% on any poll, Internet or otherwise.

Governor Palin will appeal to all three legs of the Republican party, those being fiscal, national security, and social conservatives. Moreover, Governor Palin will generate goodwill among Republican politicians in the 2010 campaign, as she will be raising all the money for Republican congressional candidates. She is the only Republican candidate that draws a crowd wherever she travels.

Governors Huckabee and Romney cannot unite the Republican electorate, as neither one appeals to the base of the party, any more than Senator McCain did in 2008. A Republican candidate will not be elected president without the strong suppport of the party base. It seems that only Governor Palin appeals to the base, which can generally be defined as conservatives.

The fundamental question for Republicans is whether they will nominate a candidate that cannot attract one or more of the party’s three legs, or whether they will unite behind the only candidate who can appeal to all three legs.

Like it or not, the harsh reality is that there are enough traditional Republican voters who simply will not vote for either Governor Huckabee, or Governor Romney in a general election – even if it means President Obama wins a second term, and the systematic dismantling of the nation’s fundamental values and institutional pillars continues.

America is at a crossroads; and either the Republican
party’s voters will unite and save the country from the path of implosion, or the country will continiue down the road of self-imposed destruction.

In view of the foregoing, some of you may wish to explain to your fellow Republicans why you will refrain from voting in a general election for Governor Romney or Huckabee, which was the case in respect to Senator McCain, prior to him selecting Governor Palin as his VP candidate. Any explanation from me would not be relevant as I have had no party affiliation for over 20 years. I would offer this observation, to wit: there are some Republican voters who will no longer vote for any candidate that they perceive as disingenuous in any respect, whether small or large, as a matter of conscience. They will simply not vote for a presidential candidate. Hence, this nation will either stand for something, or not at all. As Lincoln said in his famous “House Divided” speech, “It will become all one thing or all the other.”

Romney, likewise, is yesterday’s non-news.

I’m not voting for either unless they end up being the GOP nominee and I have to.

Palin is my pick unless and until she announces that she’s not running in 2012.