Nazi references are all the rage these days!
posted at 11:30 am on October 16, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
The casually-dropped Nazi smear is perhaps the best single indicator that a speaker is both a political and historical idiot – which is one reason we’ve seen the Lyndon LaRouche acolytes using it with wild abandon over the summer. However, it seems that anyone can play, even (perhaps especially) leading thinkers of Academia like Noam Chomsky, who must have channeled his inner Ward Churchill in San Francisco this week. Chomsky told a Commonwealth Club crowd that Rush Limbaugh, Michael Savage, and “right-wing media” herald the new coming of Naziism:
The memory that comes to my mind — I don’t want to press the analogy too hard, but I think it’s worth thinking about — is late Weimar Germany. There were people with real grievances, and the Nazis gave them an answer. ‘It’s the fault of the Jews and the Bolsheviks and we’ve got to protect ourselves from them, and that will take care of them.’ And you know what happened…
[...]Germany in the 1920s was at the peak of Western civilization. A decade later, it was at the pits of human history.
Unless an answer can be given to these people, unless they can be led to understand what’s really happening to them, we could be in for trouble.
Where to start with this serial string of idiocies? First, Germany in the 1920s was hardly “at the peak of Western civilization.” Its economy had collapsed, its social structures had collapsed, and its national identity had been crushed by unexpected and humiliating defeat in a near-existential war that their “peak” civilization thought they had won. It was a disaster waiting for a bigger disaster, just as Versailles was a peace treaty looking for a bigger war. The entire idea of the Weimar government had little support with Germans, who wanted a monarchy — and failing that, a strongman.
But even more, “anger” and “opposition” do not equal “Naziism” or “fascism”. Context is rather important in that analysis. The Nazis did not come to power by tapping into a deeply-seated notion of limited government, after all. They satisfied that urge for a charismatic leader who would reorder society through a fuehrerprinzip that would get the trains to run on time, succeeding because of that disregard for a Weimar constitution more or less imposed on them by their enemies and the political and economic chaos it created. Regardless of what one thinks of the very, very different styles of Limbaugh and Savage, neither one pump for greater government control of our lives; in fact, the very reason both get exercised is to fight that creeping intrusion.
The only way anyone can make this argument is either by breathtaking intellectual dishonesty or sheer ignorance of 20th-century history and current events. In this case, perhaps it’s both.
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I think people should take a closer look at the People’s Republic of Massachusetts.
Dr Evil on October 16, 2009 at 11:33 AM
They can still glorify Mao right?
True_King on October 16, 2009 at 11:33 AM
Maybe Noam should stick to psychology. He doesn’t know what the hell he’s talking about. Why can’t he, Howard Zinn, Lyndon LaRouche, and Ralph Nader drop off the face of the Earth? Oh and Gore Vidal, Bill Moyers, Al Gore,…………
NathanG on October 16, 2009 at 11:34 AM
Yeah, like he said, it was the peak of civilization to people like Chomsky.
forest on October 16, 2009 at 11:34 AM
breathtaking intellectual dishonesty
orand sheer ignoranceFIFY
publiuspen on October 16, 2009 at 11:34 AM
Rush is always calling for government control of education and economic policy. He also believes that the government should mark the race of every citizen and make policy based on race. He especially believes that we should lose the selfish concept of the individual and do all we do for the good of the state.
The parallels are eerie.
/roll eyes
mankai on October 16, 2009 at 11:35 AM
This is a long-time thing for Chomsky — the casual Nazi analogy — which he later backs off of when confronted. This guy has had nothing new to say for forty years.
Solomon on October 16, 2009 at 11:36 AM
Ed, you know better than to look logically at these types of arguments. Everyone knows that when discussing conservatives, you are supposed to foam at the mouth and discard thought for emotion.
Snowed In on October 16, 2009 at 11:36 AM
I’m sorry, what was the point? That liberals are smearing their political opposition by demonizing them in the same manner, and for the same reason the Nazi’s turned the Jews into scapegoats?
This was predicted on this blog ‘way back in Iowa well over a year ago, almost two years ago now.
Skandia Recluse on October 16, 2009 at 11:36 AM
Yeah, and the Nazis responded by enacting socialist policies, nationalizing industries, expanding government influence and control, seizing weapons from citizens…
Sounds exactly like the right-wing media!
MadisonConservative on October 16, 2009 at 11:36 AM
Heh. Eerie that anyone listens to these old farts. Why do they live to be 100 while the decent ones drop off? Damn it!
NathanG on October 16, 2009 at 11:37 AM
Debra Dickerson has stated she doesn’t understand why people who protested on 9/12 would call Obama a Nazi she doesn’t get that the Nazis were the socialist party?
although to be fair fascism is socialism’s ugly sister.
…..well socialism is the first step towards fascism and since the gov will now …just ask the star people.
Dr Evil on October 16, 2009 at 11:37 AM
They HATE Hitler, but glorify and worship Mao. Let’s see if we can figure this out.
Hitler murdered 6+ million people. Hitler was temporarily dictator but eventually lost.
Mao murdered 40-70 million people. Mao won his dictatorship and kept it.
So I guess the reason liberals hate Hitler is because he was an underachiever.
Daggett on October 16, 2009 at 11:37 AM
Apparent backtracking before he even makes the statement speaks volumes. And then to suggest that freedom loving citizens will be silenced with “an answer” is interesting? What in the world could that answer be?
Cindy Munford on October 16, 2009 at 11:37 AM
I once gave a friend of mine absolute H*ll for using the Nazi reference for people who disagreed with her politically. As someone who would have had a tatt on her arm and would have been living in one of the “resettlement” camps, I find any idiot calling people who disagree with them politically “Nazis” deeply deeply offensive.
mjk on October 16, 2009 at 11:39 AM
My real answer to him would be a body slam, but he’s too old for that.
NathanG on October 16, 2009 at 11:39 AM
Solid. Gold.
CDeb on October 16, 2009 at 11:40 AM
Don’t forget the cult worship of Che.
highhopes on October 16, 2009 at 11:40 AM
Since Hitler was a socialist and now we have got Obama who surrounds with socialist/communist, I can see why the term would be used. When all of the indicators point to you, blame the other person for the same thing.
Johan Klaus on October 16, 2009 at 11:40 AM
That seems like pretty typical political commentary for Chomsky.
Tonus on October 16, 2009 at 11:42 AM
Chomsky and Vidal and the other leftists have been presaging the coming fascist dictatorship in America for 40 years. That is when they weren’t stating that American wasn’t a fascist nation already, i.e., when a Republican was in the White House.
For an ideology that boasted about its efficiency, these fascists sure are taking their time getting here.
All that talk about making the trains run on time…I’m not impressed. Slackers.
SteveMG on October 16, 2009 at 11:42 AM
True and well said.
jaime on October 16, 2009 at 11:43 AM
First of all Nazism was a socialist movement. If anything is new Nazism today its the UNHRC
The_Lid on October 16, 2009 at 11:43 AM
Nothing makes me happier than a substantive assault on anything Chomsky.
otherkid on October 16, 2009 at 11:43 AM
Heck, Limbaugh can’t even be a part-owner in a footbal team.
So much for that powerful ‘fascist’ movement.
SteveMG on October 16, 2009 at 11:43 AM
I give it less than an hour before Chuckles has a thread about this over at LGF. Naturally, they’ll be falling all over themselves praising Chomsky in the comments.
Gator Country on October 16, 2009 at 11:44 AM
Gee sir, would you please be so kind as to tell me what is happening to me?
/s
A$$
nolapol on October 16, 2009 at 11:44 AM
Rush has been saying it for years, and I’m starting to see this as a seriousl statement and not hyperbole. Take a look at Obama and the people in his administration. Take a look at Pelosi. These people are damn-near criminally insane.
marklmail on October 16, 2009 at 11:45 AM
Sorry. Rush say’s “Liberalism is a mental disorder”.
marklmail on October 16, 2009 at 11:45 AM
Same old same old… I won’t even give credit for the resurrected nazi slur being a change from the racist slur. They all blur together.
The game remains marginalizing conservatives, as the WSJ points out in this excellent editorial:
Drained Brain on October 16, 2009 at 11:47 AM
I have a soft spot in my heart for octogenarians, you will have to settle for the big eye roll.
Cindy Munford on October 16, 2009 at 11:47 AM
I’d be interested to know how closely our fiscal policy resembles the Weimar Republic’s.
zmdavid on October 16, 2009 at 11:47 AM
Actually, I don’t think that the Left hates Hitler – they know that the Right hates Hitler, and they use the name against us. Mao, for some odd reason, never seemed to stir the Right up quite so much.
OldEnglish on October 16, 2009 at 11:47 AM
The left fighting the left.
Johan Klaus on October 16, 2009 at 11:47 AM
Yes. We need a 1,000 year-old famous psychologist (famous for what?) to tell us what we think. I hate this guy. I actually had a history class in college where we could select a book about Cuba written by his daughter. Avoided that book like the plague.
NathanG on October 16, 2009 at 11:47 AM
Chompsky to a T. He’s a fascinating linguist, but let it go to his head and became a self-aggrandizing pseudo-philosopher.
nukemhill on October 16, 2009 at 11:48 AM
I assume Chomsky has tenure. Once you have tenure, you can stop making sense.
zmdavid on October 16, 2009 at 11:48 AM
Hmmm…visciously scapegoating a minority that has little power, but is responsible for all the problems and is undermining the success of a great leader/nation? Sounds like how people talk about conservatives now.
bekarlss on October 16, 2009 at 11:49 AM
I put up the trailer for “The Men Who Stare At Goats”
Click on Chickaboomer the video from the daily show about CNN’s professionalism is hysterical. Will have to leave it there……
Dr Evil on October 16, 2009 at 11:49 AM
You have more class than I do. I’m sick of these people. I know I shouldn’t give a crap what they think, but it’s sad that they have so much power in academia and media. Noam, Gore Vidal, etc. are beyond arrogant. Middle America doesn’t like them, and thank God they don’t! :)
NathanG on October 16, 2009 at 11:50 AM
He must have been born with tenure, then.
Snowed In on October 16, 2009 at 11:50 AM
What “memory” is that Noam ? The memory of a dude who was born in…Philadelphia, Pennsylvania ? How about we ask the real survivors of nazism what obama-rein reminds them of ?
runner on October 16, 2009 at 11:50 AM
*The only way anyone can make this argument is either by breathtaking intellectual dishonesty or sheer ignorance of 20th-century history and current events. In this case, perhaps it’s both.*
I can suggest another way by which someone can make this argument. Pure, unadulterated stupidity.
Eichendorff on October 16, 2009 at 11:50 AM
We’ve never been in a major shooting war with Mao. Korea not withstanding.
MarkTheGreat on October 16, 2009 at 11:51 AM
Going Godwin out of the blocks. You have got to love it.
Mr. Joe on October 16, 2009 at 11:51 AM
Why anyone pays any attention to Chomsky is a true mystery. He’s a hypocritical demagogue who preaches things like 100% inheritance taxes while making sure that his family is well cared for after his passing. The only response to comments from people like Chomsky should be derisive laughter and a shake of the head — indulging crazy people is not productive.
AZfederalist on October 16, 2009 at 11:51 AM
I thought “COMMUNIST!” was the “in” reference these days…
Norvell on October 16, 2009 at 11:52 AM
Whoops. He’s not a psychologist. He’s a linguist. And answer me this: How can he call himself a libertarian-socialist? That’s an oxymoron to me. He’s any oxymoron. Heh, I made a funny! Right???????
NathanG on October 16, 2009 at 11:52 AM
FIFY
Branch Rickey on October 16, 2009 at 11:52 AM
Gator Country, you raaaaacist.
OhioCoastie on October 16, 2009 at 11:53 AM
I call Godwin’s Law on Chomsky’s entire body of work.
Tyrone Slothrop on October 16, 2009 at 11:53 AM
True, but I was thinking more along the lines of his ideology, versus Hitler.
OldEnglish on October 16, 2009 at 11:55 AM
Lil Timmay’s Printing Press?
Branch Rickey on October 16, 2009 at 11:55 AM
Dennis Prager says Chomsky gives the proctologist’s view of America.
That Prager’s a witty one.
Daddy-O on October 16, 2009 at 11:55 AM
Naw. You’re looking at it wrong. The fact that Limbaugh is blocked from being a part-owner of a money-losing enterprise because of his politics is PROOF the country is trending towards fascism.
And that the left are the fascists.
Crawford on October 16, 2009 at 11:57 AM
Whoa, this is all quite confusing to me, Noam… Can you articulate the solution for me? Socialism and communism? Why is the solution to any problem always socialism or communism to wealthy elitists? Great intellectual, Mr. Chomsky. Next.
Claypigeon on October 16, 2009 at 11:57 AM
Getting pretty close to that. Give it a few more quarters when the Fed has to buy up a bunch of the bonds offered and were are set for lift off.
Johnnyreb on October 16, 2009 at 11:57 AM
Jimmie Carter redux.
Johan Klaus on October 16, 2009 at 11:58 AM
I know you mean well, and I absolutely agree that the crimes of the Communists have gone under-reported, but Hitler was responsible for the deaths of far, far more than 6 million people. He would have gone beyond Mao, perhaps far beyond, if given the chance – that is, if he hadn’t finally been defeated on the battlefield.
CK MacLeod on October 16, 2009 at 11:58 AM
What he means is he doesn’t give a rip what you do with your body, so long as you don’t use it to accumulate wealth.
Crawford on October 16, 2009 at 11:58 AM
Lefties hold this moron up as a hero.
delicious.
daesleeper on October 16, 2009 at 11:58 AM
CJ would probably rush to the defense of Chomsky.
.
Let’s reward CJ with the Idiotarian Award of the year
FactsofLife on October 16, 2009 at 11:59 AM
Because he came to the defense of Pol Pot, blaming the US for the “excesses” of the Khmer Rouge.
Should Chomsky ever criticize the Won, well…
Crawford on October 16, 2009 at 12:00 PM
well the collapse of the Dollar is similar, got my wheelbarrow ready to go buy milk when hyperinflation hits
palm trees on the trading desks now like S America in honor of the printing presses running 25/8
these intellectual elites are all a bunch of loons
they are very afraid of regular people it seems
so why do they keep pushing us all against a wall?
STOP THE SPENDING DC
ginaswo on October 16, 2009 at 12:01 PM
What is so sad-and so scary-is that so many young college getalifes these days look up to Chumpsky as a genuine hero.
Del Dolemonte on October 16, 2009 at 12:03 PM
johnnyreb
oh absolutely! no one else is apparently noticing all the debt we are issuing is extremely short term, and when it is up for reissue? OUCH!
well I have doubts Timmeh can get his axx into one of the chairs fast enough when the music stops…the dollar is frakked
I moved into hard assets, I even sold my nifty dividend paying stocks which SUCKS but you know Nobel prize winning TOTUS is gonna let those taxes rise like crazy and as a middle class person I cannot afford the tax hit in 2010..
ginaswo on October 16, 2009 at 12:04 PM
Revisionist history or history that is only in their minds.(What little they have got)
Johan Klaus on October 16, 2009 at 12:05 PM
Let’s see, Limbaugh wants to reduce the size and scope of government, reduce their control over corporations, sever the government-business nexus….
Yep, that’s fascism all right.
SteveMG on October 16, 2009 at 12:07 PM
What is so sad-and so scary-is that so many young college getalifes these days look up to the Chumpsky as a genuine hero.
Del Dolemonte on October 16, 2009 at 12:03 PM
Johan Klaus on October 16, 2009 at 12:07 PM
comedy gold… what about the republicans or limbaugh comparing obama and liberals to nazis every day? so small a party, so many idiots…?
also, i always knew jonah “liberal fascism” goldberg was a political and historical idiot, but i wasn’t expecting it declared by none other than ed morrissey.
sesquipedalian on October 16, 2009 at 12:08 PM
Well when you consider all things, there is not much else a socialist self-loathing Jew academic could say.
BL@KBIRD on October 16, 2009 at 12:08 PM
So we see a noted socialist, I’m not clear if he is of the national or international sort, decrying people speaking out against the Democrats’ national socialist policies as a sure sign of the rise of NAZIism.
To restate, according to the left using your rights to speak, assemble, and petition the government in opposition to national socialism is national socialism.
Did Obama legalize LSD while I wasn’t looking?
18-1 on October 16, 2009 at 12:10 PM
O/T, but wasn’t the Porkulus supposed to be an extreme emergency and if we don’t pass it this week we are all going to die emergency spending bill? Now it appears that the bulk of the $787 billion has not even been spent yet, but Congress is eyeing it to give the seniors that $250 bucks:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/16/lawmakers-untapped-stimulus-funds-potential-goldmine/
They need to keep their effing hands off that. This whole bill to me was a criminal act by Congress and the President.
Johnnyreb on October 16, 2009 at 12:10 PM
Heh. I like that answer. You smart-alec! :)
NathanG on October 16, 2009 at 12:12 PM
Difference. Liberals are projecting who they are by labeling Conservatives as Nazis.
Conservatives are simply pointing out the Truth. Liberals are National Socialists.
Holger on October 16, 2009 at 12:12 PM
I know, they are beyond annoying and I am up for any ideas to diminish their influence. Short of physical violence. I would love the chance to laugh at them.
Cindy Munford on October 16, 2009 at 12:15 PM
Chomsky is projecting his vile ideology – HE and his ilk are, in fact, statists, America-haters and Jew haters. He in particular is the worst kind, a self-hating Jew.
Truth is that if he were free to speak his Jew-hatred in actual Nazi Germany, he would be one of the first thrown into the ovens.
Bastard.
J.J. Sefton on October 16, 2009 at 12:17 PM
Well, of course, it’s intellectual dishonesty; any tactic is acceptable to the Leftists because they know they’re the superior (morally/intellectually/spirtually)beings.
And for Chomsky, it’s especially important. Finally, at the end of his charade of an intellectual life, he has a hero- someone who can cause the withering of the Israeli vine.
Yeah, Noam, keep chirping away with that Weimar analogy.
Doorgunner on October 16, 2009 at 12:17 PM
It’s ChomSSky, volks.
Christien on October 16, 2009 at 12:18 PM
I will go out on a limb here.
This is what I was told by a Chinese woman so take it for what it’s worth. Before she came here she was a party member and her parents are still high ranking party members.
I paraphrase her:
The left and right are divided because of Europe and slavery. This country never really had any issues with the orientals, (her description), and therefore have never seen them as a political tool to use against each other. Because they don’t care about them, (orientals), they have never bothered to look into what a monster Mao was and how bad China really is.
So maybe the left and right sling around Hitler, Che, fascist and communist because they are more familiar with what they were and are. I really think that in the case of the liberals they only know that Hitler and fascist is a bad thing and use as an insult although I doubt they have any concept as to what it means. I do know that my neighbor who was the chair of the local democratic committee had no clue what Nazi stood for. He just knew Bush was one of them.
RagTag on October 16, 2009 at 12:19 PM
Chomsky is a moral idiot. Academics throughout history have shown to be shockingly ignorant and terribly unwise.
If an academic espouses a political philosophy, it’s probably a good idea to believe the opposite.
Richard Romano on October 16, 2009 at 12:22 PM
So the tyrants of the 20th C were not all on the left? Did you even read Goldberg’s book? Pol Pot, Stalin, and Mao were all right wing zealots, right?
No wonder you admire Chomsky.
Richard Romano on October 16, 2009 at 12:24 PM
While railing against legislation, I just read the FY10 Defense Appropriations legislation. There is a whole section on the “Matthew Shepard and James Byrd Hate Crimes act” I ask you. What does a “hate crimes” discussion belong in the middle of a bill to fund the DOD and related programs in other agencies and why is it named after individuals who were not serving in the military when they were victims of a hate crime (and never had served as far as I know).
highhopes on October 16, 2009 at 12:26 PM
That’s a breathtakingly silly analogy and I think that Chomsky actually knows it is. He is many things but he is not stupid. However, like many leftist academics he’s not averse to hijacking a little history and rewriting it in the hopes that the plebs will be too cowed to challenge them. There is a Philosophy Professor called Ted Honderich who does this but with an order of magnitude more skill.
This is simply amateur hour stuff from Chomsky.
As for debunking it, Ed’s done the leg work already.
Anders on October 16, 2009 at 12:26 PM
See my previous post. Unfortunately, it’s difficult to convey derisive laughter at your comment, if I used LOL, you’d think I was agreeing with you, maybe LDAL (Laughing, derisively and loudly would work). At any rate, that’s all your comment is worth — derisive laughter and being subsequently ignored. Pointing out the obvious as has been done for months (government takeover of businesses, government wanting to control what businesses pay to employees, government wanting to annex 1/6 of the nation’s economy) seems to bounce off your pointy head, so the only thing left to do is laugh at you and walk away.
AZfederalist on October 16, 2009 at 12:28 PM
Well NAZI stands for Nationalsozialismus which is National Socialism or National Socialist German Workers’ Party.
many liberals and democrats seem to push a more socialist view of government so it’s not that far fetch to compare them to the Nazi party which shared many of the same views. On the other hand to call conservatives and republicans NAZIs is a little off base as they do not really have political views that align.
Then again I think that in the case of this country NAZI, fascist and communist are used as insults to label someone that one does not agree with. An insult that has little relationship to the real meaning of the terms other then we all know they are bad.
RagTag on October 16, 2009 at 12:30 PM
As an admirer of David Horowitz, I think he said it best in the days immediately following 9/11:
FrontPageMag:http://97.74.65.51/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=24447
Gang-of-One on October 16, 2009 at 12:32 PM
Well, I’m sure there was someone in Germany that was warning people about the coming stain of Nazism.
That’s parallel Chomsky is thinking of right…
Keith_Indy on October 16, 2009 at 12:34 PM
Thanks for that RagTag. That lady knew a thing or two.
OldEnglish on October 16, 2009 at 12:34 PM
Obama’s communism coming soon: Full story at:
http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/16/morning-bell-obamacare-puts-you-on-welfare/
Cybergeezer on October 16, 2009 at 12:37 PM
Chomsky, you’re in for real trouble if I ever run into you in a dark alley somewhere. I might just kick your communist ass just for fun.
UltimateBob on October 16, 2009 at 12:39 PM
Chomski – Uber Idiot
Kuffar on October 16, 2009 at 12:44 PM
You sure you don’t want to engage in an “intelligent” conversation round table with Vidal, Zinn, and Chomsky? It might be fun!
NathanG on October 16, 2009 at 12:50 PM
LOL, we want credible, multi-sourced cites, kid. Not what you provided.
Del Dolemonte on October 16, 2009 at 12:51 PM
At least three times in the opening chapter of his book Jonah Goldberg emphatically states that he doesn’t believe that liberals are fascists.
The book is about the historical roots of fascism and how, at the time, it emerged from what was then the political left.
I know, why bother?
SteveMG on October 16, 2009 at 12:55 PM
Please provide us with credible, multi-sourced cites to prove Jonah is as stupid as you’ver been told to think he is. Take your time.
Del Dolemonte on October 16, 2009 at 12:55 PM
The word Nazi should not be used to describe anyone on the left or right. As for Harry Reid, Barbara Boxer, and Nancy Pelosi….jerkwad is appropriate. Loser will be even more appropriate for Pelosi and Reid next November. As in Reid loses his seat, while Pelosi “resigns the Speaker seat for the greater good” (AKA kicked out on her ass). :)
NathanG on October 16, 2009 at 12:57 PM
Obviously your junior college professors have taught you to think that Goldberg is an idiot. Can you back up your accusation with credible and multi-sourced evidence to prove him an idior?
Del Dolemonte on October 16, 2009 at 12:58 PM
Unfair to Academia, unfair to Chomsky. Unlike Churchill, Chomsky really did some truly worthwhile, groundbreaking work. But his “thoughts” on politics stray too far from his academic expertise to qualify them as those of a “leading thinker of Academia.” That would be like calling Henry Ford’s anti-Semitic diatribes those of “the man leading America’s future.” It may be technically true, but it’s misleading. And Chomsky never got anywhere near the following Ford did. In linguistics, he’s a genius. In politics, he’s a fringe nut (albeit a leader among fringe nuts).
calbear on October 16, 2009 at 12:58 PM
Hey Noam, how can people who believe in limited government be Nazis?
Bill Ramey on October 16, 2009 at 1:01 PM
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