Jobs “saved or created” from $787 billion Porkulus: 30,083
posted at 12:10 pm on October 16, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
We’ve long criticized the Obama administration measure of jobs “saved or created” by their economic policies as ridiculously ambiguous. That seemed confirmed when the White House announced last month that a million jobs had been “saved or created” by the stimulus package, without any supporting data. This week, the administration finally supplied the data, and the number came to less than 1/30th of their September claim:
The first direct stimulus reports showed that stimulus contracts saved or created just 30,083 jobs, prompting more Republican criticism of the $787 billion package.
The data posted Thursday was the result of the government’s initial attempt at counting actual stimulus jobs. Obama administration officials stressed that data was partial — it represented just $16 billion out of the $339 billion awarded — but they said it exceeded their projections.
“All signs — from private estimates to this fragmentary data — point to the conclusion that the Recovery Act did indeed create or save about 1 million jobs in its first seven months, a much needed lift in a very difficult period for our economy,” said Jared Bernstein, the chief economist for Vice President Joe Biden.
Well, which $16 billion are we talking about? And where did the rest of the $339 billion, almost half of the Porkulus appropriation, go? Why didn’t the administration show that information to make the argument that the other $329 billion had the exact same effect as the $16 billion it highlighted in its initial report?
At the rate shown by this report, this comes to almost $532,000 per job “saved or created”. Extrapolating that over the entirety of the Porkulus spending, the bill would only “save or create” 1.48 million jobs, and that assumes that it actually did “save or create” those jobs in the first place.
Now, let’s assume for the sake of argument that the jobs we “saved or created” pay the national average salary of $50,000 and are permanently saved or created, a very generous assumption consider the kind of temporary hiring that we have seen from this effort. If each of these jobs paid an effective federal income tax rate of 15%, it would take over 70 years for them to pay back the money we spent on Porkulus, and that doesn’t count the interest we will pay on those funds. At a 20% effective tax rate, it would take over 53 years.
And all of that assumes that the program works exactly as the adminstration claims. On that score, I’ll let Ken Spain have the last word:
“Despite numerous promises from Congressional Democrats, there are still 15.1 million Americans out of work,” said Ken Spain, spokesman for the National Republican Congressional Committee. “After wasting taxpayer dollars to produce an unimpressive 397 jobs in Michigan, middle-class families are still asking one thing: Where are the jobs?”
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WOW! You called her sweetie! I’m stunned that a liberal would be so hurtful as to label woman such a derogatory word. You are seriously damaging my view that liberals are caring and always aware of other peoples feelings especially when it comes to race and gender.
RagTag on October 16, 2009 at 1:08 PM
This crr6 scumbag isn’t just an idiot, I’m betting he’s a malicious idiot. This type of moron would continue to back the man-child even if the messiah started jailing his opponents.
cjk on October 16, 2009 at 1:08 PM
You said he was lying, now show us your figures…you show us different figures that he posted.
You little weasel…you lying little weasel…
right2bright on October 16, 2009 at 1:08 PM
Hear ya… as a 50 year old guy with 30 years of Electronic, computer, and management experience? My resume scares the heck out of mid level managers… but since I never finished my Four Year degree? My resume never even gets past the first screening for management jobs…
Romeo13 on October 16, 2009 at 1:08 PM
Trolls are banned from this thread…do yourself a favor and do not entertain this fool.
right2bright on October 16, 2009 at 1:09 PM
When did I get a sex change?
Just curious.
lorien1973 on October 16, 2009 at 1:09 PM
That’s where the Cash for Clunkers money went.
ChrisB on October 16, 2009 at 1:09 PM
Obama’s recession is turning into Obama’s depression.
Johan Klaus on October 16, 2009 at 1:10 PM
How many were bureaucrats hired to think of ways to take away even more of our liberties?
Beaglemom on October 16, 2009 at 1:10 PM
No that was a different 16,000,000,000
cjk on October 16, 2009 at 1:11 PM
He lied in the headline by saying those figures are from the entire stimulus (787 billion). In his own post he admitted they’re only from a fraction (16 billion) of the stimulus. Get it?
At least lorien understands the lie. You seem to be incapable of even grasping it.
crr6 on October 16, 2009 at 1:11 PM
For fools like this crr6 chump, we’re living in the best of times.
cjk on October 16, 2009 at 1:13 PM
crr6 doesn’t care that each job “created or saved” costs $530,000. See? Don’t ya’ll get it?
The fact that money is thrown into the sh1tter is a non-issue to him.
lorien1973 on October 16, 2009 at 1:13 PM
Are you kidding, he’d hold open the door and help throw away the keys.
MarkTheGreat on October 16, 2009 at 1:14 PM
O/T
Bo Snerdley on RUSH is going off on NFL players – awesome!!
Ris4victory on October 16, 2009 at 1:14 PM
This is the same problem with his thinking that cash for clunkers was a success. People are put into debt, as encouraged by the government (a net loss to the economy overall, especially long term), but since car sales went up 2% for a few weeks. Success!
Reality, it just doesn’t matter to crr6.
lorien1973 on October 16, 2009 at 1:15 PM
That Obama has not started jailing critics yet is probably one of those “promises-unkept” that sorta irritate the left and Saturday Night Live.
ChrisB on October 16, 2009 at 1:17 PM
If it weren’t the headline, crr6 would find a typo somewhere in the article and use it as a means to destroy the thread.
Maybe if Ed changes the headline to reflect crr6′s desire for clarity, he then might be willing to debate the merits of the actual topic.
Bishop on October 16, 2009 at 1:17 PM
Okay so instead of 24+ million per job which was never stated anyway, it’s actually 500+ thousand per job. Yet you continue to worship the man-child as a god. You’re a despicable fool!
cjk on October 16, 2009 at 1:18 PM
Obama needs a full on depression. Requires it. All so Obama, in the way of FDR, can steamroll through legislation to totally restructure government and its relationship to the people, as FDR did from 1933 to 1940…actions his own Secretary of Treasury, Henry Morgenthau, Jr., attested did nothing to end the depression, but served only to expand the role of central government into just about every aspect of American lives and make over half of America dependent on government.
Yes, Obama sincerely wants a depression.
coldwarrior on October 16, 2009 at 1:18 PM
I have 4 years on you but otherwise I think our resumes read similar. I also never finished college and I’m seeing more and more job requirements listing that they required a 4 year degree. Up here in MA I’m also starting to see more and more adds asking for ivy league degrees. A couple of weeks ago there was a company in Cambridge that was asking for an entry level HTML coder with a Masters and 5 years experience. It is really tough up here in the northeast job market.
RagTag on October 16, 2009 at 1:18 PM
The real story is that they don’t intend to use that money to create any jobs anyway. This is money they are going to use to stay in power and if some jobs are created in the process, well okay. They don’t care.
cjk on October 16, 2009 at 1:22 PM
Good point, which begs the question- how many jobs have been saved or created by the other $771 billion?
Tonus on October 16, 2009 at 1:22 PM
The headline doesn’t imply that the whole money has been spent.
lorien1973 on October 16, 2009 at 1:23 PM
The sad reality is that even if it were true that the whole 787,000,000,000 did in fact only create 30,083 at over 24 million per job, this crr6 fiend would STILL be worshiping the man-child. That’s the real reality here unfortunately.
cjk on October 16, 2009 at 1:27 PM
Yep.
lorien1973 on October 16, 2009 at 1:28 PM
I have to get one of those $26,160,954.69 jobs!! That’s gotta be like winning the lottery!!
erakis on October 16, 2009 at 1:29 PM
Really? Okay than you can start by running for office as a demorat.
cjk on October 16, 2009 at 1:34 PM
Federal Trade Commission Launches Investigation Into Accuracy of “Economic Enhancement” Claims http://optoons.blogspot.com/2009/08/federal-trade-commission-launches.html
Mervis Winter on October 16, 2009 at 1:37 PM
The battle cry in 2010 will be “WHERE ARE THE JOBS?”
GarandFan on October 16, 2009 at 1:40 PM
Feel for you guys. I am in the same boat. 43 years old, also with years of management and computer experience and no degree. Out of work for 18 months now, and just a few interviews in that time. Employers not responding resume submissions is the worst. Lucky enough that I am a part time entertainer, so I do get some work during Halloween and the county fair season. Guess that is what is meant by funemployment.
coyoterex on October 16, 2009 at 1:41 PM
Can I add to that…
Job Losses Higher Than Reported – Comstock
Baxter Greene on October 16, 2009 at 1:48 PM
Recall that the complaint about Porkulus was not that the government could not hire people – although government competence at getting even that done is in doubt. The complaint was that any money the government used to “stimulate” the economy had to come from somewhere, and sucking that money out of the private economy would cause a loss in employment that could/would outweigh the jobs the government would “create or save”. The only real measure of success is in a comparison of where the administration said unemployment would be (less than 8%) and where it is (about 10%). Ergo, Obama’s economics have failed, big time.
jl on October 16, 2009 at 2:00 PM
People, PEOPLE! If Iv’e said it once I’ve said it too many times. crr6 is a waste of intellectual capital and a wanton agitator whose’s only purpose is to derail meaningful dialogue.
Productive discourse is abrogated by wasted arguements against his mendacious piffle. He survives in this thread only by the oxygen our interlocution provides. Let us suffocate this malignant twit by denying it the pleasure of are repatee.
Plesase Do Not Feed The Trolls!
Archimedes on October 16, 2009 at 2:05 PM
The nice thing is that the peak rate of stimulus spending is already behind us as of the end of the 3rd Quarter. That’s right, as this report says, this is “as good as it gets”.
http://www.marketfolly.com/2009/08/sprott-asset-management-beyond-stimulus.html
venividivici on October 16, 2009 at 2:06 PM
Damn! Damn! Daqmn!
..our Repartee!
Archimedes on October 16, 2009 at 2:06 PM
RagTag on October 16, 2009 at 1:03 PM
I’ll keep my fingers crossed for you. Just don’t give up.
milwife88 on October 16, 2009 at 2:08 PM
You may just be the stoopidest person I have ever encountered on the Internet.
And I have been doing this since the old Usenet days.
Dave R. on October 16, 2009 at 2:09 PM
It depends on what you feed them. Overlook their inane agitations and go for exposing their heart and shame them. This crr6 freak worships the man-child, so just keep pointing it out and he’ll go away shamed and mad. Well maybe not shamed because he doesn’t have any. Just don’t argue on their idiotic terms.
cjk on October 16, 2009 at 2:17 PM
Obama is to crr6 as living flesh is to zombies. In fact, zombies are probably more likely to swear off eating the flesh of the living than crr6 is to swear off Obama-worship.
venividivici on October 16, 2009 at 2:17 PM
I think insulting and ridiculing is also a legitimate reaction in the case of answering a blind fiendish fool such as crr6. The liberals ridicule when they can’t answer or win an argument and that’s who they are, but to ridicule an idiot who is robot-like in his adoration of the man-child is appropriate.
cjk on October 16, 2009 at 2:21 PM
Pretty much sums up ALL liberal talking points.
Badger40 on October 16, 2009 at 2:21 PM
Well, I know where there’s jobs-ND
Walmart’s hiring, computer software support phone centers are hiring (my daughter with NO degree making $10/hr with full benefits-not too bad).
Then there’s LOTS of truck driving jobs.
Lots of farm & ranch work jobs.
They need school teachers REALLY bad.
There are jobs out there.
But you gotta be willing to relocate.
Most people expect to stay in the same area.
Sometimes that just doesn’t work.
Badger40 on October 16, 2009 at 2:24 PM
crr1 is trying to contact crr6 and tell him/her/it that the real lie is that the WH said they created/saved over 1,000,000 jobs, when in reality they created/saved only 30,083 jobs. That’s just a difference of 969,917 jobs.
moonsbreath on October 16, 2009 at 2:26 PM
“Let me be Clear”……
Barak Obama
Feb. 2009
Barak Obama
Mar. 2009
Obama,2006
on raising the debt limit.
Obama ,2009
on raising the debt limit for
the third time in one year
Do you think Obama still thinks this shows a failure of leadership?????????????
Peter Orszag
Mar. 2009
White House Budget Director
Peter Orszag, Feb. 26, 2009
Christina Romer (Obama Economic Advisor)
Mar. 2009
Barak Obama
Nov. 2008
Tim Geithner
Speech in China, 2009
Chinese response to Githner concerning their assets
being safe.
Geithner Aides Reaped Millions Working for Banks, Hedge Funds
Unemployment is in double digits,Deficits in the trillions,Taxes going sky high,The Dollar becoming null and void,Foreign investors pulling out of America,GM,Chrysler,and Banks being taken over by the government ,and the President has this to say about his failed stimulus:
Barack Obama
January 8, 2009
<em>
Obama promised that unemployment would not go over 8% with the passing of the stimulus….if we did nothing it would reach 9%.
Unemployment is now at 10%.
According to Obama’s own numbers…the stimulus has failed
Obama statement regarding the stimulus
Saturday radio address,July 11, 2009
Obama criticized rushing through legislation when he was a Senator:
OBAMA:
RHODES: “
OBAMA:
Obama interview with
Air America, 2004
Now that he is President….
not so much:
Good news: Congress ready to vote on 1,000-page stimulus bill it hasn’t read yet
President Obama, talking to liberal bloggers on a conference call July 21,2009.
Barack Obama
Aug. 8, 2009 , Virginia speech
According to the AP, Obama and his liberal friends did help
create this mess:
FACT CHECK: Obama disowns deficit he helped shape
By CALVIN WOODWARD, Associated Press Writer Calvin Woodward, Associated Press Writer
Joe Biden, July 16, 2009
J Sargent Reynolds Community College
VP Joe Biden on ABC’s This Week,
July 5,2009
Now you know why Wall St. is so nervous!!!
Foreclosures: ‘Worst three months of all time’
Dollar loses reserve status to yen & euro
By PAUL THARP
Posted: 1:44 AM, October 13, 2009
Wages tumble toward 18-year low
Joe Biden,AARP meeting
July 16, 2009
“Yes We Can!!!!”
Baxter Greene on October 16, 2009 at 2:27 PM
When I was looking, a few months back, this was one of the biggest frustrations. Not that I necessarily expected an interview for every resume I sent out but why couldn’t they even be bothered with the standard e-mail thanking you for your submission and assuring you that you’d be called if they’re interested?
As it happens, I got very lucky and got a job I didn’t think I had a chance of getting interviewed for and had the exact skills that they needed. Of course, it also meant moving 10 hours away and renting out the house I can’t sell in Michigan only to have to rent a place at twice what my mortgage is. I miss the people and lifestyle I was forced to leave behind to move to the big city but there have been benefits of the transition as well (though it is very hard to keep focused on the positives at times). Bottom line, keep fighting the good fight and the best of luck to anybody who is searching for work in the midst of this economy.
highhopes on October 16, 2009 at 2:27 PM
And for goodness sake clean up the troll droppings afterward. They tend to stink the place up.
:-0
highhopes on October 16, 2009 at 2:29 PM
Bottom line , there’s probably 20 people for each job offered so keep looking!
cjk on October 16, 2009 at 2:38 PM
Easy if it were just me but I have a wife that has a slightly profitable small business. This makes it kind of hard because it would mean both of us moving and trying to start over. I have a bad back from falling down my front stairs about 4 years ago. I was going out to clean the snow and ice off because I didn’t want anyone to fall and get hurt. Oh, irony, thou art a cruel mistress! I looked into depot to depot long haul trucking but I had to be able to lift 75 pounds over my head and I just can’t handle it with my back.
RagTag on October 16, 2009 at 3:15 PM
Why didn’t they fix their numbers to fit their claim? I’m sure Romer could have done that, quite easily.
iamse7en on October 16, 2009 at 3:17 PM
Two weeks ago I applied for a job. I got an email back saying that they had gotten over a thousand resumes and that it was doubtful I would get an interview as they were overwhelmed.
Another entry level computer support job had in big red font “Do not apply if you do not have current hands on experience or if you are an Analyst or Team Lead.”
This leads me to think that lots of older guys like me are applying for these jobs.
RagTag on October 16, 2009 at 3:22 PM
She probably would have were it not time for lunch.
highhopes on October 16, 2009 at 3:22 PM
That sure sounds like the case. It’s interesting that they don’t value experience more than that. Truth be told I’d go ahead and apply anyway just because of the “don’t apply” prohibition instead of making it clear that they really mean Obama-like skills for the job (utterly unqualified and intending to learn by OJT).
highhopes on October 16, 2009 at 3:27 PM
Thanks for that heads up about recovery.com. I
lovingmyUSA on October 16, 2009 at 3:32 PM
Dammit, I wasn’t done!
Thanks for the heads up, I checked out that link and clicked on my state–and started t get sick…no job was created for less than $55,000 per job! Good grief!
lovingmyUSA on October 16, 2009 at 3:34 PM
Feeding the troll, crap6, is like watching a drunk squirrel…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ikH9ZRcF2Q
lovingmyUSA on October 16, 2009 at 3:49 PM
Whew! Did you blow the smoke off the barrel of both those
gunsfingers when you were done??!!!lovingmyUSA on October 16, 2009 at 3:56 PM
So, it looks like everyone pretty much has conceded that Ed lied in the headline. Where’s the outrage?
And if the stimulus created 24 million jobs for 30k, you’d still be calling Obama a Marxist-muslim fascist. That’s the “real reality” (redundant much?) here unfortunately…
crr6 on October 16, 2009 at 4:27 PM
Maybe, but the fact that the headline blatantly lies is a pretty bad starting point for you guys. And what’s worse is you don’t seem to care.
crr6 on October 16, 2009 at 4:29 PM
And ABC News thinks this is grand.
Dr. ZhivBlago on October 16, 2009 at 4:58 PM
Hey! Whaaats up scumbag! Back from one of your five times a day prayer sessions to the man-child. What is your schedule 6Am, 10AM, 2PM, 6PM, then, ‘and now I lay me down to sleep master obama my soul to keep’ at 10PM CHUMP!
cjk on October 16, 2009 at 5:29 PM
Like I’d say our starting point is infinitely better than waking up to the day by praising the man-child.LOL
cjk on October 16, 2009 at 5:31 PM
Oh yeah and make sure you’re facing the south side of Chicago when you adore your messiah, freak.
cjk on October 16, 2009 at 5:35 PM
Well, all I can say is thank god Obama ratcheted up our debt from $0.4 trillion (2008) to $1.4 trillion (2009) to pay for all this stimulus…it’s paying off handsomely.
AUINSC on October 16, 2009 at 6:06 PM
Many of those 30,000 jobs are/were temp positions btw.
Last week, if we can believe the BLS anymore, since they are woefully and perhaps deliberately under reporting the actual numbers, we lost 514,000 jobs.
FTA yesterday from Associated Press
dogsoldier on October 16, 2009 at 6:23 PM
That’s outrageous! Why for that amount of money, Congress could have purchased a no-bid toilet seat.
Dr. Charles G. Waugh on October 16, 2009 at 6:28 PM
If they give me a mere 200 million I can start a new sector that will employ more than 31,000 within the next few years, and for decades to come.
One word: hydrogen.
As in modified bacteria-that-produce-hydrogen fuel as their “waste”, and that reduce organic neighborhood and industrial trash (“waste” materials like household and restaurant and supermarket garbage, pulp mill wood chips, brewer’s dregs, etc.) into a salable compost in the process.
A Win-Win.
And green, to boot.
I hate to give any help to Obama, but it’s an idea he should steal.
For the good of the country.
profitsbeard on October 16, 2009 at 7:00 PM
***
How many jobs does President Obama (PBUH) claim were saved when the many GM and Chrysler dealers were shut down? They did not cost their parent companies anything.
***
But when dealing with the “democRAT” / liberal / socialist / statist / marxist / communist Messiah you don’t need any real data. You just have to have enough FAITH to believe in the One and his words.
***
John Bibb
***
rocketman on October 16, 2009 at 7:16 PM
Is gross incompetence grounds for impeachment?
Angry Dumbo on October 16, 2009 at 7:16 PM
If they would have given every man, woman, and baby type person 2,000 bucks it would have been cheaper.
- The Cat
MirCat on October 16, 2009 at 7:21 PM
New Element Discovered
The Heaviest Element Yet Known to Science – (Gv)
Lawrence Livermore Laboratories has discovered the heaviest element yet known to science. The new element, Governmentium (Gv), has one neutron, 25 assistant neutrons, 88 deputy neutrons, and 198 assistant deputy neutrons, giving it an atomic mass of 312.
These 312 particles are held together by forces called morons, which are surrounded by vast quantities of lepton-like particles called peons.
Since Governmentium has no electrons, it is inert; however, it can be detected, because it impedes every reaction with which it comes into contact. A tiny amount of Governmentium can cause a reaction that would normally take less than a second, to take from 4 days to 4 years to complete.
Governmentium has a normal half-life of 2-6 years. It does not decay, but instead undergoes a reorganization in which a portion of the assistant neutrons and deputy neutrons exchange places.
In fact, Governmentium’s mass will actually increase over time, since each reorganization will cause more morons to become neutrons, forming isodopes.
This characteristic of morons promotion leads some scientists to believe that Governmentium is formed whenever morons reach a critical concentration. This hypothetical quantity is referred to as critical morass.
When catalyzed with money, Governmentium becomes Administratium (Adm), an element that radiates just as much energy as Governmentium since it has half as many peons but twice as many morons.
————-
The only thing I’d change with this is the name. I’d call it “Obamic Governmentium”.
Spiritk9 on October 16, 2009 at 7:47 PM
Baxter Greene: You are a terrific news aggregator. Your sourced collections on a variety of topics is a joy to read and to pass on to others. Thanks.
onlineanalyst on October 16, 2009 at 7:56 PM
I really like the obama (pbuh) but, I’m now liking more the ‘man-child’ moniker.
cjk on October 16, 2009 at 8:01 PM
Um, “are a joy to read.”
onlineanalyst on October 16, 2009 at 8:04 PM
Nah. They give you one of them Nobel Peace prizes or something.
coldwarrior on October 16, 2009 at 8:10 PM
MSNBC HEADLINE TOMORROW: Obama saves economy!!
angryed on October 16, 2009 at 8:18 PM
Is it me… Or am I missing something here… Forgive me for being a simpleton.
If I do the math -> $787,000,000,000/30100 jobs =~ $ 26,000,000+/ job.
They also can’t account for where 1/2 the money went?
Forget “Haliburton”, or “Big Pharma” … This is either the worst example of extortion in world history – and every bastard who voted for it should be imprisoned.
Amazing… These idiots can’t manage Cash for Clunkers. Thery behave like a teenager with dad’s credit card for the 1st time.
Must stop… Or some state should have the b@lls to secede… & I would follow.
It’s only going to become catastrophically worse if they pass this health care lunacy…
Danny on October 16, 2009 at 8:20 PM
crr6…
“Can’t Rightly Reason” umm… is 6 your age, or IQ?
“Conform, Regurgitate, Repeat…6times”
-poke-
-poke-
you home?
or have your pajamas gotten a bit of “gravylegs” and you had to change?
viviliberoomuori on October 16, 2009 at 8:29 PM
sorry, i just couldn’t help myself. I love them lil’ buggers. they brighten up my day. (trolls)
viviliberoomuori on October 16, 2009 at 8:29 PM
Has anybody saw this graphic time line of jobs lost and gained?
DFCtomm on October 16, 2009 at 8:36 PM
No Job? Don’t worry. The Chicago Jesus is going to pay my mortage and put gas in my car.
Dire Straits on October 16, 2009 at 8:41 PM
Good question. But I’d add “debt service” to the cost side and “jobs prevented” to the benefit side. I’m pretty sure the net effect would be even more underwhelming.
Barnestormer on October 16, 2009 at 8:45 PM
30,083 jobs saved or created? $339 billion.
100 million taxpayers robbed or defrauded? Priceless.
starboardhelm on October 16, 2009 at 8:50 PM
You know it’s hard when you have that long zipper, and those footed feet–makes it hard to do the one-handed job…especially if your mom is upsairs “entertaining”. Why do I have an image of Ralphie in “A Christmas Story”, standing there in his bunny pj’s…
lovingmyUSA on October 16, 2009 at 9:05 PM
Fabulous… Any more good news?
Khun Joe on October 16, 2009 at 9:16 PM
http://www.veteranoutrage.com
Hell at this rate you really almost COULD
GIVE every unemployed american 1 million dollars
CASH and they could just pay off their bills and
stimulate the economy
MORE EFFICIENTLY THAN obama every could..
MORONS..
he already borrowed 2 TRILLION dollars
and got BUBKIS for it..
IDIOTS.
veteranoutrage on October 16, 2009 at 9:33 PM
Jobs and Snow Jobs.
Someone should post a Days Till Its NOT Bush’s Fault Clock. Like in Times Square. And a Days of the Obama Miracle Clock in Copenhagen And I am still waiting for the Olbermein count of any of about thirty outrages like Gitmo and Afghanistan calling out The One on his lies to our dear, declawed left. Mission Accomplished November 2008? Ha Ha Keith.
IlikedAUH2O on October 16, 2009 at 10:06 PM
Thanks,
I am in great company here at Hotair.
I try to learn something new from the commentators here and on other blogs on a regular basis.
The only time I watch the MSM now is to see how they are spinning or ignoring what is really going on.
How in the world the Obama administration and it’s supporters can try and brag about the supposed success of the stimulus when we have lost almost 3 million jobs since it was signed defies all logic and common sense.
Baxter Greene on October 16, 2009 at 10:13 PM
These numbers are off, they don`t even count people who have exhausted unemployment benifits but still out of work. The job pool is getting tighter everyday.No one over 30 need apply and payrate will continue to decrease.Soon the only jobs will be Govt and only with extensive degrees.
LSUMama on October 17, 2009 at 12:47 AM
Protests in SF.
http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/san_francisco&id=7067308
galvestonian on October 17, 2009 at 3:46 AM
EVERY Socialist-Democrat and RHINO must be voted out of office in 2010. Anything less will bring about a new American Revolution.
joe btfsplk on October 17, 2009 at 7:32 AM
Democrats fuzzy math.
$787 Billion = 30,083 shovel ready jobs.
yoda on October 17, 2009 at 7:48 AM
$787 billion/30083 jobs= $26,160,954.69 per job.
Cash for clunkers was also a massive loss. Sunk $4 billion into it for a massive loss of like 87%.
I wish I could play poker with Obamapelosireidbiden’s personal bank accounts. If they play poker like they spend our money, they’d be cleaned out before I downed my second beer while whistling an old Kenny Rogers tune.
ted c on October 17, 2009 at 9:46 AM
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