Gallup wonders: What happened to Palin’s favorable rating?

posted at 9:41 am on October 16, 2009 by Allahpundit

Worth posting if only to lay down a marker about where her favorables were before the book was released. At 40/50, there’s nowhere to go but up. Hopefully.

Palin became a bit of a sensation after John McCain tapped her as his running mate last August. But over the course of the campaign, her image suffered, going from a 53% favorable rating immediately after the 2008 Republican National Convention to 42% by the end of the campaign.

Palin’s ratings have not recovered, and her current 40% favorable rating is the lowest for her since she became widely known after last year’s Republican convention…

Palin could compete for the 2012 nomination because she is still widely liked by Republicans — 69% have a favorable opinion of her while only 25% view her unfavorably. But she may have difficulty succeeding in the general election, given that Democrats have overwhelmingly negative opinions of her, and independents view her more negatively than positively.

They offer no explanation for the slide but it’s not a mystery. Follow the link and see for yourself when the divergence between her favorable and unfavorable numbers started to grow. Anything important happen this past July? It’s not just Gallup either. If you scan Pollster.com’s poll of polls on her net favorables dating back to last year, you’ll find that she was pretty near even as recently as … mid-July, when suddenly the slide begins. In fact, Gallup’s numbers today are actually an improvement for her: The last three polls taken showed her approval in the 30s and her disapproval in the mid-50s. Proof positive, I guess, that her resignation has resonance with voters and will be a major issue in the primaries if she runs. I’ll bet Huck’s gaming out the “America can’t afford a quitter” ads as we speak.

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edgehead on October 16, 2009 at 10:19 AM

That was my point. Palin and Obama are in the same ballpark now and we still have 3 years to go!

Amadeus on October 16, 2009 at 10:39 AM

Should have finished out her term as Governor.

Also, in post-WWII times no VP candidate on a losing Presidential ticket has ever gone on to be that party´s candidate for President.

albill on October 16, 2009 at 10:40 AM

Also, in post-WWII times no VP candidate on a losing Presidential ticket has ever gone on to be that party´s candidate for President.

albill on October 16, 2009 at 10:40 AM

And 11 months ago we’d never had a black President either. What’s your point?

CDeb on October 16, 2009 at 10:41 AM

If Palin is such a gift to Democrats — if she runs — why continually attack her? That seems like really stupid strategic thinking.

Obviously they fear her.

Jeff from WI on October 16, 2009 at 10:29 AM

+ 100

alliebobbitt on October 16, 2009 at 10:43 AM

Well, she doesn’t need to display her pushed up boobs, that’s for sure. Unlike some trollops…

StevefromMKE on October 16, 2009 at 9:52 AM

McCain Boobette just wants attention and knows how to get it and it sure isn’t with her intellect. I’m embarrassed for her family that she resorts to sh!i like this and then acts innocent and shocked at the reaction. Pathetic dumba$$.

Monica on October 16, 2009 at 10:43 AM

Also, in post-WWII times no VP candidate on a losing Presidential ticket has ever gone on to be that party´s candidate for President.

albill on October 16, 2009 at 10:40 AM

There is a first time for everything. Sarah will kick Barry’s a$$.

farright on October 16, 2009 at 10:43 AM

With every Palin thread it seems that there are those who just want to shoot the messenger. Instead of denying her bad numbers, why not consider things she can do to change them? How can she alter the impression so many have of her as dim-witted tabloid fodder? That’s not an accurate narrative in my view, but perception is reality. How does she change it? Its been almost a year since McCain lost, and her numbers are still that bad?

changer1701 on October 16, 2009 at 10:23 AM

When the “messenger” seems to go out of their way to find each and every negative story it shouldn’t be a suprise that Palin supporters have the “perception” that someone is allowing their personal dislike to guide them in selection of articles. Why doesn’t our “perception” make that a reality?

If HA is so concerned about steps a politician can take to improve their game – where are all the threads about the sucky positions of the other potential GOP candidates? Where are the threads discussing why so many GOPers hate Romney, why they think Pawlenty is bland as rice pudding? What should Jindal be doing to increase his visibility? It’s been over a year since all the GOP primary losers got beat – what have they been doing to improve their chances?

katiejane on October 16, 2009 at 10:43 AM

Also, in post-WWII times no VP candidate on a losing Presidential ticket has ever gone on to be that party´s candidate for President.

albill on October 16, 2009 at 10:40 AM

Right – Walter Modale was never the Democrat candidate for president.

jaime on October 16, 2009 at 10:43 AM

And 11 months ago we’d never had a black President either. What’s your point?

CDeb on October 16, 2009 at 10:41 AM

Not to mention, have we ever had a more inexperienced candidate before Obama? “Post-WWII”, it would be unthinkable that during two wars and on the heels of the biggest economic crisis since the Great Depression, America would elect a man who hadn’t even finished a term as a US Senator, a far easier job than Governor of a state.

alliebobbitt on October 16, 2009 at 10:46 AM

I was stunned when she resigned (quit) because it just didn’t look good. Her incoherent speech explaining her actions did not help the matter either.

I do understand why she did it (book deal, money, lawsuits, avoid conflicts of interest) but if she really plans to run for President in 2012 she needs to build up that National profile non-stop from now until then. People have short memories and they’ll forget all about her “quitting” if she is a national figure by then.

I suppose I should reserve any further judgement until after her book releases.

Daemonocracy on October 16, 2009 at 10:47 AM

Trash Palin, throw her under the bus, prop up a boring moderate against Obama. Lose to Obama again.

Sounds like a very good plan to me.

Crux Australis on October 16, 2009 at 10:50 AM

I finally figured this allahpundit out… trolls around for anything remotely negative re Palin and then throws it out there with some “I really don’t know” comments
like now
who cares about this poll?

how much would allahpundit bet that Palin’s favourable numbers won’t be up from here after her book tour?

PhilipJames on October 16, 2009 at 10:50 AM

What’s 40% of 300 million people? By my calculations, it’s a hell of a lot.

joe_doufu on October 16, 2009 at 10:52 AM

Drill
Petroleum is a major part of America’s energy picture. Shall we get it here or abroad?

By Sarah Palin

Given that we’re spending billions of stimulus dollars to rebuild our highways, it makes sense to think about what we’ll be driving on them. For years to come, most of what we drive will be powered, at least in part, by diesel fuel or gasoline. To fuel that driving, we need access to oil. The less use we make of our own reserves, the more we will have to import, which leads to a number of harmful consequences. That means we need to drill here and drill now.

We rely on petroleum for much more than just powering our vehicles: It is essential in everything from jet fuel to petrochemicals, plastics to fertilizers, pesticides to pharmaceuticals. Ac­cord­ing to the Energy Information Ad­min­is­tra­tion, our total domestic petroleum consumption last year was 19.5 million barrels per day (bpd). Motor gasoline and diesel fuel accounted for less than 13 million bpd of that. Meanwhile, we produced only 4.95 million bpd of domestic crude. In other words, even if we ran all our vehicles on something else (which won’t happen anytime soon), we would still have to depend on imported oil. And we’ll continue that dependence until we develop our own oil resources to their fullest extent.

Those who oppose domestic drilling are motivated primarily by environmental considerations, but many of the countries we’re forced to import from have few if any environmental-protection laws, and those that do exist often go unenforced. In effect, American environmentalists are preventing responsible development here at home while supporting irresponsible development overseas.

My home state of Alaska shows how it’s possible to be both pro-environment and pro-resource-development. Alaskans would never support anything that endangered our pristine air, clean water, and abundant wildlife (which, among other things, provides many of us with our livelihood). The state’s government has made safeguarding resources a priority; when I was governor, for instance, we created a petroleum-systems-integrity office to monitor our oil and gas infrastructure for any potential environmental risks.

Alaska also shows how oil drilling is thoroughly compatible with energy conservation and renewable-energy development. Over 20 percent of Alas­ka’s electricity currently comes from renewable sources, and as governor I put forward a long-term plan to increase that figure to 50 percent by 2025. Alaska’s comprehensive plan identifies renewable options across the state that can help rural villages transition away from expensive diesel-generated electricity — allowing each community to choose the solution that best fits its needs. That’s important in any energy plan: Tempting as they may be to central planners, top-down, one-size-fits-all solutions are recipes for failure.

For the same reason, the federal government shouldn’t push a single, uni­versal approach to alternative-powered vehicles. Electric cars might work in Los Angeles, but they don’t work in Alaska, where you can drive hundreds of miles without seeing many people, let alone many electrical sockets. And while electric and hybrid cars have their advantages, producing the electricity to power them still requires an energy source. For the sake of the environment, that energy should be generated from the cleanest source available.

Natural gas is one promising clean alternative. It contains fewer pollutants than other fossil fuels, it’s easier to collect and process, and it is found throughout our country. In Alaska, we’re developing the largest private-sector energy project in history — a 3,000-mile, $40 billion pipeline to transport hundreds of trillions of cubic feet of natural gas to markets across the United States. Onshore and offshore na­tural gas from Alaska and the Lower 48 can satisfy a large part of our energy needs for decades, bringing us closer to energy independence. Whether we use it to power natural-gas cars or to run natural-gas power plants that charge electric cars — or ideally for both — natural gas can act as a clean “bridge fuel” to a future when more renewable sources are available.

In addition to drilling, we need to build new refineries. America currently has roughly 150 refineries, down from over 300 in the 1970s. Due mainly to environmental regulations, we haven’t built a major new refinery since 1976, though our oil consumption has increased significantly since then. That’s no way to secure our energy supply. The post-Katrina jump in gas prices proved that we can’t leave ourselves at the mercy of a hurricane that knocks a few refineries out of commission.

Building an energy-independent Amer­ica will mean a real economic stimulus. It will mean American jobs that can never be shipped overseas. Think about how much of our trade deficit is fueled by the oil we import — sometimes as much as half of the total. Through this massive transfer of wealth, we lose hundreds of billions of dollars a year that could be invested in our economy. Instead it goes to foreign countries, including some repressive regimes that use it to fund activities that threaten our security.

Reliance on foreign sources of energy weakens America. When a riot breaks out in an OPEC nation, or a developing country talks about nationalizing its oil industry, or a petro-dictator threatens to cut off exports, the probability is great that the price of oil will shoot up. Even in friendly nations, business and financial decisions made for local reasons can de­stabilize Amer­i­ca’s energy market, since the price we pay for foreign oil is subject to rising and falling exchange rates. Decreasing our dependence on foreign sources of energy will reduce the impact of world events on our economy.

In the end, energy independence is not just about the environment or the economy. It’s about freedom and confidence. It’s about building a more secure and peaceful America, an America in which our energy needs will not be subject to the whims of nature, currency speculators, or madmen in possession of vast oil reserves.

Alternative sources of energy are part of the answer, but only part. There’s no getting around the fact that we still need to “drill, baby, drill!” And if those in D.C. say otherwise, we need to tell them: “Yes, we can!”

There. Now it’s on HotAir. You are welcome.

Brian1972 on October 16, 2009 at 10:53 AM

To discuss Sarah Palin at all or draw conclusions about her from polls without reference to her anathetimizing effect on the mainstream media — and in turn their preponderant influence over such polls — is an act of conscious dishonesty or gross punditry negligence. Yet this seems to go on regularly here.

Read Camille Paglia on this point, and on Palin in general. She gets it.

Further, Palin’s book has been announced, not released.

rrpjr on October 16, 2009 at 10:53 AM

I came here for that too. I stayed because of the warm chocolate chip cookies served.

Jeff from WI on October 16, 2009 at 10:31 AM

As long as they’re not made with Ex-Lax, you’re safe. BTW, I was fearing that this was turning into a Hooters thread. Good to know it’s just an excuse to bash Allahpundit.

platypus on October 16, 2009 at 10:53 AM

Daemonocracy on October 16, 2009 at 10:47 AM

Agreed. The speech seemed totally unplanned and was up there with the Couric interview, not one of Palin’s finest moments. I understand and respect her reasons for stepping down, and I also agree that she should be working to burnish her credentials and build trust with voters. But I think she’s already doing a great deal in that regard.

I also hope there’s more to her book than just gossip and platitudes. I hope to see the outline of a governing principle, and her new PAC is pointing toward that direction.

alliebobbitt on October 16, 2009 at 10:54 AM

So let me get this straight. Palin takes a hit for resigning. then over the next 3 months proves she did the right thing and her numbers improve by about 5-6% in the polls and somehow allah and gallup try to spin the IMPROVING NUMBERS AS A NEGATIVE?

I bet Obama wishes he had this type of negatives. See his poll numbers are decreasing unlike Palin’s which are increasing. Increasing poll numbers is a positive no matter what Allah wishes it to be

unseen on October 16, 2009 at 10:54 AM

I’ll take a quitter over a socialist.

haikusrock on October 16, 2009 at 9:45 AM

Good thing those wont be our only options

Squid Shark on October 16, 2009 at 10:56 AM

If you had a job that was costing your family a fortune every day you remained, a fortune you didn’t actually have, would you stay or leave? The current ethics laws for office holders in Alaska allow for the costly to Palin and the state frivolous law suits. When your back is up against a now win situation, do an end run.

Kissmygrits on October 16, 2009 at 10:56 AM

I can’t tell if the Palinites are serious or not… Are you guys really this Pollyanna about Palin, or is it some kind of “the PUMAs will save us” head-fake to boost morale for its own sake?

Lehosh on October 16, 2009 at 10:56 AM

To discuss Sarah Palin at all or draw conclusions about her from polls without reference to her anathetimizing effect on the mainstream media

Tanning. Bed. Media.

alliebobbitt on October 16, 2009 at 10:57 AM

I can’t tell if the Palinites are serious or not… Are you guys really this Pollyanna about Palin, or is it some kind of “the PUMAs will save us” head-fake to boost morale for its own sake?

Lehosh on October 16, 2009 at 10:56 AM

You had it right the first time.

Squid Shark on October 16, 2009 at 10:58 AM

Slip slidin’ away…who cares. She’s been more influential and effective outside the beltway. Mitt is silent and in hiding and Huck is better at being on TV.

MestizoMaverick on October 16, 2009 at 10:59 AM

I can’t tell if the Palinites are serious or not… Are you guys really this Pollyanna about Palin, or is it some kind of “the PUMAs will save us” head-fake to boost morale for its own sake?

Lehosh on October 16, 2009 at 10:56 AM

Hillary Clinton supporters were still Democrats at the end of the day, and they did as their heroine told them when she began stumping for Obama. What is so difficult to understand about that?

alliebobbitt on October 16, 2009 at 10:59 AM

So they disapprove of her because she’s too hot? Not because the narrative successfully spun by the media is she’s a crazy Christian with little intelligence? Awesome. Epic comment, my friend. EPIC.

amerpundit on October 16, 2009 at 10:12 AM

Thanks.

Well, that’s a component too obviously.

Bottom line as much as I like her I can see the deck is stacked very heavily against her in a national general election.

Anders on October 16, 2009 at 11:00 AM

I’ll take a quitter over a socialist.

haikusrock on October 16, 2009 at 9:45 AM

Good thing those wont be our only options

Squid Shark on October 16, 2009 at 10:56 AM

Too bad your only other option is loser.

alliebobbitt on October 16, 2009 at 11:00 AM

Bottom line as much as I like her I can see the deck is stacked very heavily against her in a national general election.

Anders on October 16, 2009 at 11:00 AM

It’s like gambling in a Vegas casino. Doesn’t stop people from winning.

alliebobbitt on October 16, 2009 at 11:02 AM

BURP.

My comment was just swallowed.

alliebobbitt on October 16, 2009 at 11:03 AM

Hillary Clinton supporters were still Democrats at the end of the day, and they did as their heroine told them when she began stumping for Obama. What is so difficult to understand about that?

alliebobbitt on October 16, 2009 at 10:59 AM

False.

This PUMA ♥’s Sarah Palin (and voted for her).

lansing quaker on October 16, 2009 at 11:03 AM

Well, I don’t see how she had any choice but resign. Alaska could not protect her from silly lawsuits nor could they pay her enough to constantly defend herself. Staying in office meant bankruptcy. It didn’t have anything to do with politics, the lawsuits forced her to resign as I see it.

Sad that a governor can be forced out of office by idiots filing frivolous lawsuits that get dropped eventually but must be defended against.

crosspatch on October 16, 2009 at 11:03 AM

Simple. She got the Rush Limbaugh treatment.

People, especially on the left, are too stupid to scrutinize anything that comes from the left for veracity.

drjohn on October 16, 2009 at 11:04 AM

Allah of the Tollbooth just can’t help himself. He has to trash Palin. It’s a pathetic, knee jerk reaction with him. Deep down I think he’s got a man crush on Obummer and wants to see him in the White House forever. Why else would he praise every moderate GOP squish there is and continue to trash Sarah Palin? Keep playin’ that red kazoo on the sidewalk, boy. You ain’t never gonna make the main room.

Percy_Peabody on October 16, 2009 at 11:05 AM

So, Democrats don’t like Palin — Boo Hoo! When Obama is done hosing them, even Democrats will be hating him. Palin sounds like a winner in that contest.

littleguy on October 16, 2009 at 11:05 AM

Too bad your only other option is loser.

alliebobbitt on October 16, 2009 at 11:00 AM

Wow, that was creative. Got anymore zingers there shakespeare?

Squid Shark on October 16, 2009 at 11:07 AM

Percy_Peabody on October 16, 2009 at 11:05 AM

Says the guy whining in the comments section.

Squid Shark on October 16, 2009 at 11:08 AM

This PUMA ♥’s Sarah Palin (and voted for her).

lansing quaker on October 16, 2009 at 11:03 AM

How could you possibly make that jump?

Squid Shark on October 16, 2009 at 11:09 AM

As long as they’re not made with Ex-Lax, you’re safe. BTW, I was fearing that this was turning into a Hooters thread. Good to know it’s just an excuse to bash Allahpundit.

platypus

LOL

beachgirlusa on October 16, 2009 at 11:12 AM

If Palin is such a gift to Democrats — if she runs — why continually attack her? That seems like really stupid strategic thinking.

Obviously they fear her.

Jeff from WI on October 16, 2009 at 10:29 AM

You didn’t see democrats attack McCain in the primaries the way they attack Palin, now and then. The reason is simple. McCain was the most beatable candidate. No team, especially a 2nd rate team, roots for the chance to play the #1 seed, when they could play the 16th seed instead.

Goody2Shoes on October 16, 2009 at 11:14 AM

How could you possibly make that jump?

Squid Shark on October 16, 2009 at 11:09 AM

Independent thinking and objective evaluation of two candidates’ records?

Despite what the MSM said, “experience” counted quite a bit to this voter.

lansing quaker on October 16, 2009 at 11:14 AM

What’s 40% of 300 million people? By my calculations, it’s a hell of a lot.

joe_doufu on October 16, 2009 at 10:52 AM

Hm. I didn’t know all 300 million people in this country could vote. You learn something new every day!

MadisonConservative on October 16, 2009 at 11:17 AM

False.

This PUMA ♥’s Sarah Palin (and voted for her).

lansing quaker on October 16, 2009 at 11:03 AM

:)

alliebobbitt on October 16, 2009 at 11:21 AM

Despite what the MSM said, “experience” counted quite a bit to this voter.

lansing quaker on October 16, 2009 at 11:14 AM

It did to me too, that is why I do not relish a contest between Palin and Obama in 2012.

Squid Shark on October 16, 2009 at 11:22 AM

Wow, that was creative. Got anymore zingers there, Shakespeare?

Squid Shark on October 16, 2009 at 11:07 AM

Did I hurt your feelings? Don’t strain your brain trying to come up with your own clever retort. And in sonnet form, Shakespeare.

alliebobbitt on October 16, 2009 at 11:23 AM

It did to me, too. That is why I do not relish a contest between Palin and Obama in 2012.

Squid Shark on October 16, 2009 at 11:22 AM

*snort* Yeah, Obama has accomplished SO much. *cough* Death panels.

alliebobbitt on October 16, 2009 at 11:26 AM

alliebobbitt on October 16, 2009 at 11:23 AM

No you didnt, I just cant fathom what you damage is. I stated that I am glad that quitter and socialist are not the only choices and you called me a loser. Why? Because I dared to say that the Queen Bee might not be the best choice to be president?

Squid Shark on October 16, 2009 at 11:27 AM

*snort* Yeah, Obama has accomplished SO much. *cough* Death panels.

alliebobbitt on October 16, 2009 at 11:26 AM

I didnt say he did. Why is it that if you dont think Palin is the best choice you are automatically support Obama?

Squid Shark on October 16, 2009 at 11:28 AM

“I’ll bet Huck’s gaming out the “America can’t afford a quitter” ads as we speak.”

Sure, and others are gaming out the “America can’t afford another weak-kneed loser” ad campaign against Mr. Oprah Huck-frey.

EasyEight on October 16, 2009 at 11:29 AM

Rasmussen stopped polling on this question?

Fascinating that the folks who came the closest to predicting the last election aren’t doing the question any more (having stopped at 10/06/08). As Rasmussen gets the best marks for what is going on in, I find that absence interesting.

As for the data series across all polls, just by eye the lines aren’t fitting the data points, and I would push the unfavorable far higher, and favorable lower if it was a straight fit… perhaps a least squares fit?

ajacksonian on October 16, 2009 at 11:29 AM

Brian1972—You beat me to it job well done. I usually post
Sarah’s not as well.

Clyde5445 on October 16, 2009 at 11:30 AM

Why all the negative Palin posts? Do I really have to spell it out for you all?

1. Palin loves God
2. Palin = traffic

AP’s heroes are Charles Darwin, Christopher Hitchins, and Richard Dawkins in that order. So any politician who openly avows Christianity is a target. You know – the whole “anybody stupid enough not to belief that hydrogen (an invisible inert gas) reacting over billions of years produced life as we know it on earth” has to be trashed at all costs meme (just like the State run media by the way.)

Traffic = money. That’s how he gets paid. Any questions?

johnnybgood on October 16, 2009 at 11:30 AM

Brian1972 on October 16, 2009 at 10:53 AM

Thank you for that. It would have been nice to see this linked in the headline. We undoubtedly would have, if it were written by Romney, Jindal or Pawlenty. Chucklebee’s just good for the occasional one-liner.

alliebobbitt on October 16, 2009 at 11:31 AM

I wonder if Sarah Palin might want to buy the St. Louis Rams for Todd as a Christmas gift.

Brian1972 on October 16, 2009 at 11:32 AM

johnnybgood on October 16, 2009 at 11:30 AM

Yeah, is because Palin is a Christian, it has nothing to do with the fact that the Palin-bots dance on cue whenever AP posts.

But I guess that is filed under “traffic”

Squid Shark on October 16, 2009 at 11:33 AM

I wonder if Sarah Palin might want to buy the St. Louis Rams for Todd as a Christmas gift.

Brian1972 on October 16, 2009 at 11:32 AM

What horrible act has Todd done to deserve such a “gift?”

CDeb on October 16, 2009 at 11:34 AM

Brian1972 on October 16, 2009 at 10:53 AM

It is no secret Palin knows her stuff on energy policy. Hopefully she will get appointed Sec of Energy. Or she can get into the Senate and sit on the appropriate committees.

Squid Shark on October 16, 2009 at 11:35 AM

I’m glad to do the posting jobs that our host blogger just won’t do.

I didn’t even have to jump a fence!

Really though, he may be saving that for an afternoon/evening thread, or QOTD.

Don’t hate tha playah, hate tha game.

Brian1972 on October 16, 2009 at 11:35 AM

What horrible act has Todd done to deserve such a “gift?”

CDeb on October 16, 2009 at 11:34 AM

+100

Squid Shark on October 16, 2009 at 11:36 AM

Worth posting if only to lay down a marker about where her favorables were before the book was released post a negative about Palin and generate hundreds of hits

Hot Air is anti-Palin, they are going to keep putting her down, and prop up squishes like Pawlenty.

4 more years of Obama translates into plenty of half-naked men selling cretaine ads on the side bars.

Jerome Horwitz on October 16, 2009 at 11:37 AM

1. Her “slide” since November is entirely within the Gallup margin of error.

2. When “scientific” polls with MOE +/- 3-4% have a disparity of 10%, there’s something foul with the poll.

3. Of the sites on Pollster.com, only CBS, Pew and Gallup sample >1400 adults. Pew also has her in the 40s. CBS routinely oversamples Democrats to 33% of their sample.

4. When Gallup had her at 53% they also had a sample of 3000 adults. That was back in October, when money and reputation required getting accurate figures on the favorables so the election didn’t sneak up on the client.

Try again.

Chris_Balsz on October 16, 2009 at 11:38 AM

Traffic = money. That’s how he gets paid. Any questions?

johnnybgood on October 16, 2009 at 11:30 AM

Allahpundit’s little Palin vendetta costs him, in the end. There are more people who want to hear Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter and Glenn Beck than people who want to hear Kathleen Parker, David Frum or Christopher Buckley, or for that matter Chris Matthews, Keith Olbermann or Joy Behar.

A little diversity of opinions is good, expect on this site run by Michelle Malkin, the readers expect to hear supportive comments from the admins regarding the first three mentioned, or Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann or Dick Cheney, for example. Instead, we are told to “lighten up” and watch clips from The Daily Show, which is where stupid people get their news while the comedy is subpar (Stewart says something and mugs for the camera, pretty much how SNL portrays Glenn Beck).

alliebobbitt on October 16, 2009 at 11:38 AM

It is no secret Palin knows her stuff on energy policy. Hopefully she will get appointed be appointing the Sec of Energy. Or she can get into the Senate as President and sit on tell the appropriate committees how to proceed with her energy policies.

Squid Shark on October 16, 2009 at 11:35 AM

That sounds better to me. She makes a lot of sense on a whole lot more than energy. Like health care policy, for instance.

Brian1972 on October 16, 2009 at 11:39 AM

Chris_Balsz on October 16, 2009 at 11:38 AM

Excellent comment. I’m always envious of those who understand the science of polling.

alliebobbitt on October 16, 2009 at 11:41 AM

It’s like gambling in a Vegas casino. Doesn’t stop people from winning.

alliebobbitt on October 16, 2009 at 11:02 AM

True but given the unmitigated disasters that Barack and the far left liberals in Congress might get up to if given 4 more years, I’d rather the GOP not treat 2112 as a game of 21.

I’m a conservative pessimist in the John Darbyshire sense.

Anders on October 16, 2009 at 11:42 AM

Hot Air is anti-Palin

Rubbish, nor was it anti-Fred in the primaries last time round. Both sets of supporters react defensively to any mention that their preferred candidates numbers were going down.

By all means be cultish but get a grip.

Anders on October 16, 2009 at 11:44 AM

What would I know. I’m just a mindless emotionally driven reactionary Palin-bot obsessed with the superficial appearance of my favorite politician.

Brian1972 on October 16, 2009 at 11:45 AM

I’d take HOWDY DOODY over the Liar-in-Chief.

marklmail on October 16, 2009 at 11:49 AM

Momentarily amused by the thought of the Anchorage Rams in the NFC West Division.

Brian1972 on October 16, 2009 at 11:49 AM

What would I know. I’m just a mindless emotionally driven reactionary Palin-bot obsessed with the superficial appearance of my favorite politician.

Brian1972 on October 16, 2009 at 11:45 AM

No, but from what I can see you are a Palin-bot who react reflexively whenever someone criticizes the queen.

Squid Shark on October 16, 2009 at 11:49 AM

Momentarily amused by the thought of the Anchorage Rams in the NFC West Division.

Brian1972 on October 16, 2009 at 11:49 AM

I wonder if they would get fewer attendees than my Jacksonville Jaguars.

Squid Shark on October 16, 2009 at 11:50 AM

I refuse to be drawn in to comment on a semiserious dig on Sarah Palin, designed to boost traffic.

Damn. Caught me again.

Tennman on October 16, 2009 at 11:51 AM

I can’t tell if the Palinites are serious or not… Are you guys really this Pollyanna about Palin, or is it some kind of “the PUMAs will save us” head-fake to boost morale for its own sake?

Lehosh on October 16, 2009 at 10:56 AM

I don’t think I’m all “Pollyanna” about her, but I really do like her and would love to see her thump BigO in 3 years.

I’ve thought about why I think so much of her, just to reassure myself. I think the reason she resonates with so many on a ‘gut level’ is that she does not appear to be the typical politician, and seems to be the public figure (at least with any shot at a higher office) that most closely matches with the way I think and the way I live my life.

Unlike most politicians, because of her ‘unorthodox’ rise to a level of prominence, I for one am willing to extend a big benefit of the doubt, at least until she proves otherwise to me. The fact that she took on her own party speaks volumes to me, and I want her (and other Republicans, for that matter) to continue that, to purge our ranks of the crooks and cronys.

As for Allah, I won’t ‘bash’ on him for a supposed hatred of conservatives. I didn’t get a slamming of Palin from this post, nor from most of them. It is, after all, his and Ed’s house, courtesy of The Boss, and are free to state their own opinions and analysis of them. Just as I am free to agree, disagree, or find another blog. I for one generally don’t mind my own opinions being challenged, and defending, or rethinking them as appropriate.

JamesLee on October 16, 2009 at 11:51 AM

No, but from what I can see you are a Palin-bot who react reflexively whenever someone criticizes the queen.

Squid Shark on October 16, 2009 at 11:49 AM

Distinction without a difference.

Appreciate your thin attempt to marginally soften the insult, so thank you.

Brian1972 on October 16, 2009 at 11:52 AM

I’d take HOWDY DOODY over the Liar-in-Chief.

marklmail on October 16, 2009 at 11:49 AM

I cant think of anyone who would be so bad that I would vote for Obama, but it I am glad we will have a primary to choose who “Howdy-Doody” is.

Squid Shark on October 16, 2009 at 11:53 AM

Obama… -11

Rasmussen. Talk about a slide? Early this week he was at
-3.

Key West Reader on October 16, 2009 at 10:02 AM

The Pantload-in-Chief is pretty much around -6 to -11 on a three-day rolling average basis. The -3 was an anomaly; folks grokked at his Nobel and then went back into their holes.

VoyskaPVO on October 16, 2009 at 11:54 AM

Brian1972 on October 16, 2009 at 11:52 AM

I was not saying you are mindless or stupid, you dont have to be stupid to engage in that kind of behavior. Plenty of smart folks I know got sucked into the Obama Cult too.

Squid Shark on October 16, 2009 at 11:54 AM

I get it. Let’s keep poking holes in the only candidate conservatives have that has a shot at winning the presidential election, and continue to try and build up those who have ‘no-shot’ (Romney, Huck, Gingrich). Yea, that makes sense.

There is no doubt that there are many in the Republican party who would rather see a second Obama term, over a Palin one. This is why I no longer consider myself a Republican.

There will be no Republican resurgence, until the party leaders realize and accept that the base of the party is conservative; not moderate or liberal.

The little exercises that writers on this blog go through to try and diminish conservative leaders (like Palin) only goes to show how far away from the base the party has gone.

spen52 on October 16, 2009 at 11:55 AM

alliebobbitt on October 16, 2009 at 11:38 AM

Some of us want a cheerleading session, others want intellectual stimulation. Can’t we have both? Are your sensibilities too delicate to tolerate differing opinions?

jaime on October 16, 2009 at 11:56 AM

She stopped sliding backwards, despite Allahpundit. Stopped bleeding, and already heading upwards. Three years away.

Very cool.

kcarpenter on October 16, 2009 at 11:57 AM

Squid Shark on October 16, 2009 at 11:54 AM

You misunderstand my point. I take the assertion of “cult membership” to be an insult itself, even if it comes with the caveat that “plenty of smart people fall for this mindless cult stuff”.

I could just as well assert that you are a member of the reflexively anti-Palin Cult, who cannot abide any positive light cast upon “the Queen”, lest someone may be misled by it.

Brian1972 on October 16, 2009 at 11:59 AM

I wonder what Reagan’s favorables were in October 1977. Seriously, I would love to know.

Missy on October 16, 2009 at 12:00 PM

I get it. Let’s keep poking holes in the only candidate conservatives have that has a shot at winning the presidential election, and continue to try and build up those who have ‘no-shot’ (Romney, Huck, Gingrich). Yea, that makes sense.

I dont think she has a chance in church except in the very probable instance of a ’79 situation where the Indies will go with anyone as long as it is not Obama.

There is no doubt that there are many in the Republican party who would rather see a second Obama term, over a Palin one. This is why I no longer consider myself a Republican.

Only in your mind.

There will be no Republican resurgence, until the party leaders realize and accept that the base of the party is conservative; not moderate or liberal.

Likewise there will be no party resurgence until the base figures out that you still have to win over the middle, otherwise you are just shouting at the wind.

The little exercises that writers on this blog go through to try and diminish conservative leaders (like Palin) only goes to show how far away from the base the party has gone.

spen52 on October 16, 2009 at 11:55 AM

I think Ed is pretty nice to Palin, it is a nice balance. The only time you could claim that HA is biased against Palin is if you read AP exclusively, the only ones that seem to be doing that are the Palin Acolytes.

Squid Shark on October 16, 2009 at 12:01 PM

I could just as well assert that you are a member of the reflexively anti-Palin Cult, who cannot abide any positive light cast upon “the Queen”, lest someone may be misled by it.

Brian1972 on October 16, 2009 at 11:59 AM

I compliment her when I think she has done good. In fact I did it on this thread, in response to your post.

I am not “reflexively anti-Palin” only reflexively anti-Palinista. Her rabid followers make me just as uncomfortable as the Ronlulans did in ’08.

Squid Shark on October 16, 2009 at 12:04 PM

Since I do not agree with this Poll, it is not true.

portlandon on October 16, 2009 at 12:09 PM

“I compliment her when I think she has done good. In fact I did it on this thread, in response to your post.

I am not “reflexively anti-Palin” only reflexively anti-Palinista. Her rabid followers make me just as uncomfortable as the Ronlulans did in ‘08.

Squid Shark on October 16, 2009 at 12:04 PM”

Okay- time for you to man up and tell us who do you support?

You have zero credibility until you do.

kcarpenter on October 16, 2009 at 12:10 PM

I am not “reflexively anti-Palin” only reflexively anti-Palinista. Her rabid followers make me just as uncomfortable as the Ronlulans did in ‘08.

Squid Shark on October 16, 2009 at 12:04 PM

You certainly felt no reservation in throwing me in with a “cult”, despite not knowing me or how I have come to the conclusions I have reached about Palin, or the other candidates.

I realize that some Palin supporters are overly sensitive and somewhat reactionary, as are a certain percentage of people in any movement or group. The larger the group, the more varied types of individuals within that group.
This is human nature, and I think you make too much of this “cult” business.

Some people like her, some don’t. That will be fluid over time, and we will see if it works out how I would like it to, or if indeed you are correct. In the meantime, let’s not be so condescending, shall we?

There are legitimate concerns with Palin’s appeal to the broad electorate right now, but there are also legitimate chances it can be reversed in time to matter.

She has a real shot. I would like to see a bullseye.

Brian1972 on October 16, 2009 at 12:15 PM

Likewise there will be no party resurgence until the base figures out that you still have to win over the middle, otherwise you are just shouting at the wind.

Squid Shark on October 16, 2009 at 12:01 PM

When you say middle, I suspect you mean the left. McCain is viewed as a “moderate” (i.e., left-leaning), although he advertised himself as a “Reagan Republican”. Either way, his “moderation” didn’t sell. I’m having a hard time imagining a candidate more “moderate” than McCain being able to, first, secure the nomination of the GOP, and, second, draw sufficient contrast to Obama to actually win.

littleguy on October 16, 2009 at 12:16 PM

kcarpenter on October 16, 2009 at 12:10 PM

Right now I am torn between Jindal and Pawlenty, I would give consideration to Petraeus, but I generally prefer military folks to get some years in the civilian power corridors before they run for Prez.

Both of them are successful governors who have done well in their respective states. Both can speak well and forcefully on a multitude of issues. I think Jindal carries a few issues that will cause him problems with the middle, and his national “debut” was less than stellar, but he could be a good candidate in 2012.

Squid Shark on October 16, 2009 at 12:18 PM

When you say middle, I suspect you mean the left. McCain is viewed as a “moderate” (i.e., left-leaning), although he advertised himself as a “Reagan Republican”. Either way, his “moderation” didn’t sell. I’m having a hard time imagining a candidate more “moderate” than McCain being able to, first, secure the nomination of the GOP, and, second, draw sufficient contrast to Obama to actually win.

littleguy on October 16, 2009 at 12:16 PM

You assume wrong, I dont use the word moderate because it allows the Limbaughs to categorize it as “squishy” with no principles. Centrists on the other hand have principles but do not subscribe to the entire package of the TC’s. They still make up the hunk of people who you need to win to take the White House. McCain was going to loose, so would Romney or the Huckster. So would Thompson or Guliani.

Squid Shark on October 16, 2009 at 12:22 PM

Brian1972 on October 16, 2009 at 12:15 PM

And for that, I am sorry, I was lumping you in with the prick who called me a “loser”, I see that now.

Appreciate the explination.

Squid Shark on October 16, 2009 at 12:23 PM

Matt Latimer
Why Palinmania won’t die

Palin isn’t going away (at least not yet) because in her own way she represents what Barack Obama represented for many Democrats: someone who stands apart from the corrupt and cynical Washington system that has let true believers down. Republicans remember that Palin stood up against the crooked Republican establishment in Alaska—while out-of touch GOP senators in Washington actually applauded Alaska’s crony-in-chief, Ted “Bridge to Nowhere” Stevens, after he was booted out of office amid scandal.

The rank-and-file are tired of the bland phonies running the GOP. They are tired of Republican compromises that bloated spending and expanded the federal government. And they feel helpless against a team of buddies running each campaign more cynically than the last. GOP voters just might be ready to burn their village down in order to save it. You can almost hear the line now. What’s the difference between a hockey mom and Robespierre? Lipstick.

From the headlines, this is a good paragraph getting at why many most Republican voters like the possibility of a Palin campaign.

Nothing “cultish” about this line of thinking, it’s just mainstream conservative thought.

Brian1972 on October 16, 2009 at 12:26 PM

I’m searching the historical NYT for poll info on Reagan in 1977. Haven’t found anything yet, but thought y’all might appreciate these tidbits from an article by major league a**h*le Adam Clymer from the NYT on September 4, 1977:

For Some Reason, The G.O.P. Is Of Good Cheer

by Adam Clymer

DENVER–For an organization at an all time low in national popularity, holding fewer important offices than it has in mmany years and with its internal divisions as deep as ever, the Republican Party is a strangely cheerful institution.

***

Now no one is sure if President Carter will really be a strong opponent, but the Republicans are not in awe of him.

***

Still, listening to them and other Republicans across the country can sometimes provoke wonder about who won the last election. Or perhaps better put: Do the Republicans know who won, or is this largely an exercise in self-delusion? Perhaps it is just that Republicans have spent so many years discussing whether their party has a future that they have decided it must, or they wouldn’t still be here to be asked.

***

Meanwhile Mr. Reagan’s new organization, Citizens for the Republic, discusses its plans to give money to conservative Republicans. And others concentrate on liberal Republicans. Members of the party almost unanimously say that with 18 or 20 percent of public allegiance, whichever poll is used, they cannot afford to exclude anybody, but they do not practice that noble theory.

If the Republicans are going to make a comeback soon, they need to expand a base that seems solid only in the farm belt and the Rockies.

Etc. Well, we know how that all turned out, but obviously Adam Clymer and the NYT and the rest of the media hadn’t the foggiest.

And this was back when the GOP was polling, per the article, at 18-20 percent.

Be of good cheer.

Missy on October 16, 2009 at 12:27 PM

Darn it – screwed up the blockquote. The article quotes end after “and the Rockies.”

Missy on October 16, 2009 at 12:28 PM

You guys are forgetting your lefty media narratives:

Obama just had a bad day at the polls, so Palin MUST have a bad day to distract from this.

Wash, Rinse, Repeat as they say.

unwashed minion on October 16, 2009 at 12:30 PM

Polls in 2009 for 2012?

And you think that you’re talking points right now will have basis in 2012?

No. In 2012 primaries, the question is simple: WHO HAS SACRIFICED A LOT IN FIGHTING THE ONSLAUGHT OF OBAMA’S STATIST SOCIALISTIC REGIME?

2009-2011 is the period for sacrifice and fight.

TheAlamos on October 16, 2009 at 12:31 PM

Squid Shark on October 16, 2009 at 12:23 PM

No problem. We all need to remember that despite our differences on who will wind up leading this nascent anti-Obama movement, we are on the same team in the big picture.

Jug-eared Telepromter Messiah must go down to defeat in 2012, and I will get behind whoever ends up carrying the flag.

Brian1972 on October 16, 2009 at 12:42 PM

Missy on October 16, 2009 at 12:27 PM

Great find. Do you have the full article?

Snowed In on October 16, 2009 at 12:46 PM

Great find. Do you have the full article?

Snowed In on October 16, 2009 at 12:46 PM

I do, but it’s in PDF. I’d be happy to email it to anyone who wants it – just let me know.

Missy on October 16, 2009 at 12:49 PM

To all those folks who don’t understand why Sarah resigned as Ak Gov.I’m quite sure you can find a video or transcript of her resignation speech,where she explained quite articulately,and in no uncertain terms, exactly why she chose to step down.Unlike the Liberals in the media and elsewhere,Sarah doesn’t need couch her language in ambiguity and obfiscation.There is no doubt why she left office,because she stated her reasons in clear direct terms.
To all you who denounce Sarah for being a “quitter”.Have you ever heard the term”guerrila warfare”?
You do not stay in a fight that can’t be won,you retreat to
fight the battle that can be won.Sarah’s fight is not for public office,rather it is the Conservative cause.She is more effective in that fight as a private citizen than in a statewide public office.
I wish you all would stop trying to sound like effete liberal pseudo-intellectuals,and simply accept the fact that Sarah is the epitome of everything that has made this country superior to everything else.Either support Sarah or
don’t.Quit being”supporters” who are looking for reasons to withdraw your support.

DDT on October 16, 2009 at 12:50 PM

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