Vashta.Nerada on October 15, 2009 at 10:05 AM

From Wikipedia:

Members of Congress voted to extend pension benefits to the legislative branch under the CSRS (formerly limited to the executive branch) in January 1942 under a provision of P.L. 77-411. Congress repealed their pension two months later, due to public outcry in the early months of America’s involvement in World War II. It was not until after the war, in 1946, that Congress would be covered under the CSRS with the passage of P.L. 79-601.

An obviously horrible idea. I wish we’d been as outraged in 1946 as in 1942!

Yes it does. It’s transparent, hypocritical and anti-American, extraordinary dishonesty. Liberal Democrats are eroding or throwing away our financial and military safety and security, while burdening our children and grandchildren with incredible debt.

Could we all work together to win back at least the House in 2010, please, so we can at least start slowing down this process? Thanks.

Some threads are inexplicably troll-free.

TexasDan on October 15, 2009 at 10:32 AM

As I was reading the comments, this was crossing my mind as well. Very strange. What I really find strange though, is the mind that can manipulate itself into protecting, and rationalizing this crap the Democrats are doing to the country. Blatant lies, and manipulations by Democrats, and that’s just fine by liberals. I think consequences, and a sense of right, and wrong are just things of the past in this country.

I do not have much time for blogging today so I offer a conundrum instead. The thesis of Thomas Frank’s What’s the Matter with Kansas?: How Conservatives Won the Heart of America is that most Red State Americans do not……

“This is a bill that would permanently change the payment system for physicians to a fairer system,” Sen. Debbie Stabenow, D-Mich., said as she introduced the bill.

This bill is separate from the Baucus Bill or it’s an amendment? It seems to be separate – so vote on it separately. On it’s own merit. This is a BS bill meant to quell the seniors who are realizing that their physicians won’t work for nothing.

Payment to ONLY your physicians won’t get you medical care…
The Chairman’s mark slashes the payments across the board to all providers to Medicaid & Medicare. You can pay the physicians but what good will that do if the products & services they prescribe are unavailable. What good is it if the facilities (hospitals, labs, free standing radiology centers,home health, dialysis center, nursing homes, etc) are not being compensated – they won’t work for nothing either.

Stabenow must think the elderly are stupid. First the insult of the pay-off of $250. And now thinking that she can shut them up by saying “I wrote a bill that will get your doctor paid so you will get to keep your doctor!”. No hospital, no supplies, no care.

Doesn’t this fall into the same category of Obama’s claim that illegals would not be covered, while days later advocating for “immigration reform” that would make 12 million plus become legal? Can’t these bozos just come out and claim their factual intent?

Rovin on October 15, 2009 at 10:06 AM

No, they can’t. Imagine if they told the American public that they want to pass a massive new healthcare entitlement that is going to raise the taxes of everybody who pays taxes, and increase premiums for everybody who buys health insurance, and raise costs and reduce the availability of services for everybody who accesses medical care. Or if they told seniors who’ve been paying Medicare taxes all their working lives that they’re going to have their Medicare benefits significantly reduced so that more tax money can be used to pay for more free healthcare for millions of non-taxpaying illegal aliens. Voters would go ballistic — and the politicians know it. That’s why they lie and scheme and manuever to hide the facts.

It’s legislating by stealth: Tell the idiot taxpayers whatever they want to hear (“It’s deficit neutral!” “It’ll actually reduce the deficit!” “Illegals won’t be covered!” “It’s for the children!”), then do whatever is necessary to sneak the bill through before anybody has a chance to find out what’s actually in it. Then go and give speeches to the special interests that financed your campaign (e.g., La Raza, SEIU, etc.) about how much you’ve done for them and pat yourselves on the back for selling out your country’s future.

When I first heard that it was a deficit reducer my heart fell into my stomach

Same here but for different reasons. My heart fell because I knew the Democrats had somehow fooled the CBO and thought they might actually get away with their lie.

I’m screaming mad, but I am soooo pleased that HotAir, Karl Rove, Fox, Hannity and many others are screaming these lies from the roof tops. Sooner or later the democrats are going to throw out a bill and vote on that puppy before anyone can expose the truth; but so far it hasn’t happen.

Man, my sister doesn’t even know what she doesn’t know.

Sad, so Sad.

She didn’t know the Republicans have had every idea voted down. She didn’t know the R’s were trying to get insurance across state lines. She did agree that it might be a good idea to try ideas incrementally, but “there isn’t time” since the election season starts again in a few weeks.

I am embarrassed that my very smart, very successful sister is so brainwashed. I need to read Glenn Beck’s book, arguing with idiots, I have a copy, haven’t had time.

Some threads are inexplicably troll-free.

TexasDan on October 15, 2009 at 10:32 AM

They are absent because the daily list of talking points has gone beyond gibberish that even they can understand. They await a liberal translation that also redacts Rahm’s four-letter words that would get them banned.

“If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Honestly, how did they think they would hide this? They can’t be that stupid. This whole internet blog thingy is Racist!

Johnnyreb on October 15, 2009 at 9:37 AM

If you ever listened to Senator Debbie Stabenow for more than 30 seconds you would realize that she is THAT STUPID, and assumes that we are all that stupid also.