Limbaugh tells all: Was George Soros involved in the Rams bid too?

posted at 2:44 pm on October 15, 2009 by Allahpundit

For your listening pleasure, courtesy of the Right Scoop, the first 15 minutes of today’s show. If you can’t spare the time, watch the last three minutes of the second clip for his big finish about Saul Alinsky’s America and then two minutes of the first clip starting at around 2:45 for the bombshell about his very strange bedfellow in the bid. Rush says he knew nothing about it until yesterday and even now seems unsure that Soros is definitely involved. I googled around to see where the story started and kept coming back to this Bloomberg piece, which … doesn’t say much:

Limbaugh’s group is led by former Madison Square Garden President and current St. Louis Blues and Real Salt Lake majority owner Dave Checketts, who brings a wealth of sports industry contacts, know-how and credibility. Checketts also brings big-time backers like George Soros, who financed the duo’s failed attempt to buy the Los Angeles Dodgers in 2003.

Checketts’s ownership of hockey’s Blues is backed by, among others, TowerBrook Capital Partners, which was formerly known as Soros Private Equity Partners before it was spun off from Soros Asset Management Group in 2005.

Much depends on what “brings” means. Is Bloomberg merely saying that Soros has partnered with Checketts before and therefore might be involved this time or are they saying he is involved and they know it for a fact? Hard to tell. If it’s the latter then it’s exceedingly odd that Checketts never mentioned it to Rush in order to feel him out on whether he was okay with partnering with Soros. It’s also odd that Soros wouldn’t have used his influence on the left to call off the media dogs this week against Limbaugh: Now that they’ve purged Rush, conservatives will demand that Soros be purged too and Georgie boy surely knows it. Which is why I suspect that he’s not involved in the bid (and, needless to say, won’t be involved going forward).

Limbaugh goes out of his way in the second clip to say he’ll remain a huge fan of the NFL, so if you’re thinking about a boycott, it sounds like you’re on your own. Exit question: Why did Checketts assure him that he was prepared for the media firestorm when he obviously wasn’t? Maybe he thought at the time that Soros was coming aboard and that the two would “balance” each other for left/right media purposes?

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Limbaugh used to have a gig on ESPN until he got himself booted off, for good reason too.

starfleet_dude on October 15, 2009 at 3:27 PM

Really? What “good reason” was that?

darwin on October 15, 2009 at 3:47 PM

progressoverpeace, it isn’t a few unfounded smears that has the NFL not wanting Limbaugh, but the fact that he is, truly, a lout with a big mouth and a bully pulpit. I don’t blame them one bit for not wanting him to be a part of the league.

starfleet_dude on October 15, 2009 at 3:13 PM

A couple of points:

1. The league has a perfect right to deny Limbaugh part of a franchise. They feel it will hurt their product and their union relations: end of story.
2. You can’t simply dismiss the effect of bogus quotes that were written and promulgated to promote outrage. Take away those made-up quotes and remove a good portion of the firestorm because then people who want to stir up action against Limbaugh would need to use REAL quotes and those just aren’t as useful to their cause.
3. The MSM is totally complicite in Point #2. By accepting at face value quotes w/out any attempt to verify that the quotes were real or fake, they once again betrayed their true selves to the public. I hope Rush sues their ****** off.

PackerBronco on October 15, 2009 at 3:52 PM

progressoverpeace, it isn’t a few unfounded smears that has the NFL not wanting ObamaLimbaugh, but the fact that he is, truly, a lout with a big mouth and a bully pulpit. I don’t blame them one bit for not wanting him to be a part of the league.

starfleet_dude on October 15, 2009 at 3:13 PM

There, that’s more like it! Hey starfleet dud, you are a bigot, and since you don’t like rush, you may not go to any sports venues, movies, nascar, etc., How do you like it punka$$. Just because someone doesn’t like you does not mean you can’t have the same opportunities as anyone else. And your messiah ‘dud’ Obama is the cause of all this mess in the country today. American against American, just the way he wants it. How’s THAT change working for you ‘dud’?

clinker46 on October 15, 2009 at 3:55 PM

The parents should be charged with reckless endangerment.

omnipotent on October 15, 2009 at 3:16 PM

Maybe. Let’s get the kid down, first.

BillH on October 15, 2009 at 3:56 PM

How many of these owners are living it up in taxpayer funded stadiums?

reaganaut on October 15, 2009 at 3:35 PM

Bingo! How this passes as ok is beyond me, as much money as the NFL is rolling in, how do they convince people to foot the bill for the stadium(taxes) and then you get to pay for stupid high priced tickets…a double milking!

TheVer on October 15, 2009 at 3:58 PM

In this latest media firestorm over Rusn, one of MSM’s lead comments is that he’s a “polarizing figure.”

I submit that easily the most polarizing figure in the US today is Mr HopeyChangey himself: Barack Insane O’chavez.

Our “post-racial” precedent, known appropriately by some as the “filthy liar”, has done nothing by deepen the divide between the right and the left, as well as blacks and whites, since he flubbed the oath of office earlier this year.

But who gets the free pass in the MSM? No surprises there, mmmmmmmmmm,mmmmmmmmmm,mmmmmmmmmm!

Sweet_Thang on October 15, 2009 at 3:58 PM

Rush handled this with dignity. You can’t help but get the impression that he is nothing but gracious on a personal level. Of course you know that being blacklisted for being “controversial” means that if enough elitists whine about you, you’re out. Funny how that works when Letterman isn’t too controversial to be an Indy car owner, and Jay-Z isn’t too controversial to be an NBA owner, and Fergie isn’t too controversial to be be an NFL owner. Why not just insist that Rush and those of his ilk display a yellow Star of David on their lapel, so we can readily tell who the controversial ones are, and mete out the new elitist justice upon them.

Mark30339 on October 15, 2009 at 3:59 PM

starfleet_dude on October 15, 2009 at 3:27 PM

Ok, so YOU wouldn’t hire Rush. And apparently some (many?) in the NFL wouldn’t either. This isn’t the point. These are the issues:

(1) There is a massive double standard. If you want to claim Rush isn’t good enough for the NFL then you’ve also got to get rid of Olberman, some players, some owners etc who have done egregious things.

(2) The news media was making up and propagating outright lies about Rush. This is totally unacceptable. If you want to make claims about Rush’s statements or behavior then be prepared to back them up with evidence.

gwelf on October 15, 2009 at 4:00 PM

It’s also odd that Soros wouldn’t have used his influence on the left to call off the media dogs this week against Limbaugh

Yes I am sure being a minority owner of the Rams was more important to Soros than giving Rush a black-eye.

TheBigOldDog on October 15, 2009 at 4:00 PM

The NBA is known to have rank n file Thugs so Jay-Z is representin! The argument that Limbaugh is too contoversial is laughable as the very product on the field is a bunch of primadonnas that get leniency for breaking laws.

TheVer on October 15, 2009 at 4:03 PM

This has the distinct smell of the Whine House and the two and a half men ( Rhambo, Asslrod + Hussain) modus operandi
First the trashing of conservative media personalities, then the ban on Micheal Savage, then an invite followed by a disinvite of Micheal Savage, then KNEW drops Savage, then Rush is lured into a corner to be trashed , BillO sending secret smooches to Hussain, while WH sends its Dunn and Gibbs to spew venom at Foxnews…..
Whats next ? Someone’s sealed divorce records being unsealed?
Aaaaaahhhhh
sweet smell of a third world thugocracy

macncheez on October 15, 2009 at 4:05 PM

Maybe Irsay will terminate the contracts of his employees/coaches/players who listen to Rush or possibly voted for Bush or McCain? (For the good of the NFL of course.)

jerseyman on October 15, 2009 at 4:07 PM

The guy who is destroying our currency and sovereignty is welcomed with open arms. UnF*cking believable.

marklmail on October 15, 2009 at 4:08 PM

starfleet_dude on October 15, 2009 at 3:27 PM

Just to clarify my points.

I’m not saying it’s illegal for the NFL to have a double standard. It can have a double standard but that also means they are openly politicizing themselves and shouldn’t be surprised when/if individual conservatives decide that the NFL no longer wants their patronage. This stinks of rank hatred and discrimination. It’s legal (and should be) but it will turn people off.

As to the media malpractice of slandering Rush – this should be the most disconcerting element of the story. Liberals love to talk about how a free and inquisitive and objective and truthful press is essential for democracy yet they seem to turn a unconcerned eye time and again when the media proves itself to be rife partisan hacks.

gwelf on October 15, 2009 at 4:09 PM

Barack Insane O’chavez

Sweet_Thang on October 15, 2009 at 3:58 PM

Must clean off screen after spraying with Coke Zero(bama).

VibrioCocci on October 15, 2009 at 4:09 PM

Does this mean that other businesses (private businesses that don’t leech off of the taxpayer with having their main venues paid for by the public) will be given the leeway to hire and fire whomever they want without fear of un-American lies about minorty “rights” and discrimination? I am for owners of businesses having the right to hire and fire whoever they want, along with property owners having full rights to sell or rent their properties to only those they want to do business with.

Unfortunately, I know that the liberal ratchet only moves in one direction – against America.

progressoverpeace on October 15, 2009 at 4:15 PM

While we are watching the health care, rush hand, the dems. passed the bill to bring Gitmo to America.

When is all of this going to stop.

What up steele, rinos boehner, cornyn are our warriors….we have repubs. fighting for a bill to give 3500 tax credit for animals……while poor ms. bachmann is trying to nail ACORN all by herself.

nondhimmie on October 15, 2009 at 4:21 PM

I’m not saying it’s illegal for the NFL to have a double standard.

If you and others here can’t get how Limbaugh’s big fat mouth is a serious image issue for the NFL, I really can’t help you. Limbaugh’s short and sorry stint with ESPN doesn’t and shouldn’t inspire confidence that Limbaugh won’t say something that would hurt the reputation of the league.

For the record though, I think Michael Vick should have gotten a lifetime ban from the NFL for his crime.

starfleet_dude on October 15, 2009 at 4:22 PM

starfleet_dude on October 15, 2009 at 4:22 PM

I get it. Liberals (like you) hate Rush. There are many who don’t see him the way you do. But you’re ignoring the real point – and you haven’t addressed any of the issues I brought up.

gwelf on October 15, 2009 at 4:25 PM

Why did Checketts assure him that he was prepared for the media firestorm when he obviously wasn’t?

Checketts is a opportunistic jerk. He cried and begged for and got public funding for his soccer stadium in Salt Lake City. I am “helping” to pay for it. In the process he villified and stabbed Larry H. Miller in the back. Miller, the late owner of the JAZZ, had to build his areana with his own money and quite literally gave Checketts his opportunity in sports. Nothing Checketts does at this point would suprise me.

el rey on October 15, 2009 at 4:32 PM

Why aren’t we totally bombarding George Soros?

There have got to be ugly stories out the ying yang on him.

stenwin77 on October 15, 2009 at 4:34 PM

gwelf, tell it to Bob Irsay and the NFL club of owners, not me. I’m just telling you why Limbaugh is someone the NFL doesn’t want to associate itself with officially, for good reason. Just because you and others may love Limbaugh’s inane blather doesn’t mean squat when it comes to his overall public image.

starfleet_dude on October 15, 2009 at 4:34 PM

It’s simple.The NFL is a left leaning group. Simply start a new league.

Jeff from WI on October 15, 2009 at 4:36 PM

Jeff from WI, lobby to sell the Packers to Limbaugh! But first be sure to name me as your beneficiary on your life insurance policy.

starfleet_dude on October 15, 2009 at 4:37 PM

In an earlier post, I said I was shocked about Checketts being less concerned about his own image than making more money. But we didn’t know about the Soros factor back then. It may very well be Checketts had to weigh the lesser of two evils as to which would do less damage to his own image. Soros or Limbaugh. If that is the choice he had to make, then he probably made the right choice, because the NFL, being more aligned with Soros would have made life a LOT more difficult for Checketts.

Should be interesting if any more of this comes to light in the near future.

Danzo on October 15, 2009 at 4:38 PM

Really? What “good reason” was that?

darwin on October 15, 2009 at 3:47 PM

Telling the truth that McNabb was hyped to the point you’d think he was the greatest QB to play the game.

Holger on October 15, 2009 at 4:39 PM

If you and others here can’t get how Limbaugh’s big fat mouth is a serious image issue for the NFL, I really can’t help you.

starfleet_dude on October 15, 2009 at 4:22 PM

Really? What do you think of Terry Bradshaw’s mouth? (Or is it really James Carville? Sometimes I can’t tell)

Or, if you really want to go low, Keith Olberman?

BigD on October 15, 2009 at 4:41 PM

Telling the truth that McNabb was hyped to the point you’d think he was the greatest QB to play the game.

No, it was saying that McNabb was starting because he was black. That deservedly got Limbaugh the boot from ESPN.

starfleet_dude on October 15, 2009 at 4:43 PM

gwelf, tell it to Bob Irsay and the NFL club of owners, not me. I’m just telling you why Limbaugh is someone the NFL doesn’t want to associate itself with officially, for good reason. Just because you and others may love Limbaugh’s inane blather doesn’t mean squat when it comes to his overall public image.

starfleet_dude on October 15, 2009 at 4:34 PM

I’m not arguing one way or the other on whether they should have let him be an owner (they approached him by the way). I’m saying the NFL shouldn’t be surprised that their blatant politicization of the situation and their obvious double standard pisses people off. You have yet to address this: Ok Rush is bad for the NFL’s image (supposedly) yet they allow lots of other people to participate in it.

More importantly I’m saying we’ve just witnessed the media smear a man with blatant lies (you know the ‘fourth branch of government’ that is supposed to be a pillar of objectivity and non-partisan guardianship of the republic) – yet you seem more interested in non-issues.

gwelf on October 15, 2009 at 4:47 PM

If you and others here can’t get how Limbaugh’s big fat mouth is a serious image issue for the NFL, I really can’t help you. Limbaugh’s short and sorry stint with ESPN doesn’t and shouldn’t inspire confidence that Limbaugh won’t say something that would hurt the reputation of the league.

It is only an image issue if you naively believe the lies.

If you believe the lies, I am sure nobody can disabuse you of this image of Rush that you choose to believe. Others listen to the words themselves and THEN interpret the words. You have chosen to have others construct your thoughts for you.

They lied about what Rush said on ESPN. They lied about these quotes that were supposed to disqualify Rush from the ownership group for the Rams. Obviously you believe what others tell you, not what you hear.

Good luck in life.

MoCoM on October 15, 2009 at 4:48 PM

As to the media malpractice of slandering Rush – this should be the most disconcerting element of the story. Liberals love to talk about how a free and inquisitive and objective and truthful press is essential for democracy yet they seem to turn a unconcerned eye time and again when the media proves itself to be rife partisan hacks.

Those who publicized that slander should pay for it till they twitch. Rush should sue them.

As for property rights… Well, what was done here also was a clear case of discrimination on the basis of political beliefs. He should pursue this as well.

What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

newton on October 15, 2009 at 4:49 PM

starfleet_dude on October 15, 2009 at 4:43 PM

Sorry, you’re wrong. Whomever you’re quoting has it right. Feel free to post a quote though.

mike_NC9 on October 15, 2009 at 4:49 PM

No, it was saying that McNabb was starting because he was black. That deservedly got Limbaugh the boot from ESPN.

starfleet_dude on October 15, 2009 at 4:43 PM

So Rush is evil for pointing out that political correctness played a role in McNabb starting? We just elected a president because he was black but it’s inconceivable that someone would be starting quarterback for the same reason?

gwelf on October 15, 2009 at 4:51 PM

Here’s ya go:

PHILADELPHIA — Donovan McNabb has been to three straight Pro Bowls and two consecutive NFC championship games, and was runner-up for NFL MVP in his first full season as a starter.

Still, commentator Rush Limbaugh saw fit to question the quarterback’s credentials.

Before McNabb led the Philadelphia Eagles to a 23-13 victory over the Buffalo Bills, Limbaugh said on ESPN’s “Sunday NFL Countdown” that McNabb is overrated. However, Limbaugh injected his comment with racial overtones that have set off a controversy.

“Sorry to say this, I don’t think he’s been that good from the get-go,” Limbaugh said. “I think what we’ve had here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. There is a little hope invested in McNabb, and he got a lot of credit for the performance of this team that he didn’t deserve. The defense carried this team.”

starfleet_dude on October 15, 2009 at 4:52 PM

Why aren’t we totally bombarding George Soros?

There have got to be ugly stories out the ying yang on him.

stenwin77 on October 15, 2009 at 4:34 PM

Dude, here’s a good start on Dr. Evil aka, George Soros.

From the article: “In 1997 Soros almost destroyed the economies of Thailand and Malaysia. At the time, Malaysia’s Prime Minister, Mahathir Mohamad, called Soros “a villain, and a moron.” Thai activist Weng Tojirakarn said, “We regard George Soros as a kind of Dracula. He sucks the blood from the people.” (Source)

JAM on October 15, 2009 at 4:53 PM

Telling the truth that McNabb was hyped to the point you’d think he was the greatest QB to play the game.

Ya, and if you notice, he wasn’t hyped as much after that. Funny, because he still doesn’t have a ring, either.

Also, the NFL seems to have backed off of it’s experiment with the running, Michael Vick type QB, when it turned out Michael Vick, while fast and athletic, was a crappy QB.

How many draft picks were wasted because everyone wanted to see another McNabb or Vick, for one reason or another.

Hell, look at the hype Vick got, when he was a terrible passer. Highlight-reel material, but again – no rings.

The thing is, Rush is absolutely correct in how the media treat(ed) black QBs and coaches. They bombard everyone to death with this “first” crap. (Which, in my opinion only diminishes the accomplishments of that player/coach). First black coach to win a game on the road, after a bye week!. First black coach to win 3 games in a row, after losing 2 and winning 1! First black QB to throw 3 passes at the backup TE!

He was commenting on the media treatment, not the athletes themselves, but the morons will never stop foaming long enough to see the truth.

reaganaut on October 15, 2009 at 4:55 PM

So Rush is evil for pointing out that political correctness played a role in McNabb starting? We just elected a president because he was black but it’s inconceivable that someone would be starting quarterback for the same reason?

As if any other black man could have run in place of Obama, or that McNabb didn’t have the skills to be a Pro Bowl level NFL quarterback. Saying that someone’s genueine accomplishments are mostly due to their race is what’s wrong with both of the above notions, gwelf.

starfleet_dude on October 15, 2009 at 4:56 PM

They bombard everyone to death with this “first” crap.

I’d also add, which is worse, Rush pointing out the obvious, or the media patting black players and coaches on the head, “Good for you, you’re the first black coach to win 9 games. Great job, little buddy!”

reaganaut on October 15, 2009 at 4:57 PM

starfleet_dude on October 15, 2009 at 4:52 PM

That’s it?!?! THAT’S what has your panties all in a bunch? Damn.

I wonder if you are really that easily offended or if you just follow the standard liberal debating style that “whoever is offended first wins.”

Ampersand on October 15, 2009 at 4:59 PM

gwelf, I don’t even think Rush was saying McNabb wasn’t good enought to play. Just overrated. The smear merchants accused Limbaugh of being racist just for saying the guy was overrated. Thank the Lord for Rush and Thanks Hotair.com for posting this.

mike_NC9 on October 15, 2009 at 4:59 PM

Can I just say something? Donovan McNabb is a good quarterback. He is not a “great” quarterback, for several reasons.

But there is little question that the sports commentators over-hyped him earlier in his career, while other QBs were accomplishing much more.

His record will stand respectfully and creditably on its own.

BigD on October 15, 2009 at 4:59 PM

Saying that someone’s genueine accomplishments are mostly due to their race is what’s wrong with both of the above notions, gwelf.

a “brilliant” lawyer who did not author a single legal opinion, that is quite an accomplishment

runner on October 15, 2009 at 5:00 PM

starfleet_dude on October 15, 2009 at 4:52 PM

Rush offers a reasoned opinion that Mcnabb wasn’t that great a quarterback (he tell us why and it’s not because he’s black) and that others promoted him to start based on his race – explain to me how this is a condemnation of Rush?

gwelf on October 15, 2009 at 5:01 PM

His record will stand respectfully and creditably on its own.

BigD on October 15, 2009 at 4:59 PM

You know I meant “respectably,” not “respectfully.”

I hate it when I do things like that.

BigD on October 15, 2009 at 5:02 PM

or that McNabb didn’t have the skills to be a Pro Bowl level NFL quarterback. Saying that someone’s genueine accomplishments are mostly due to their race is what’s wrong with both of the above notions, gwelf.

starfleet_dude on October 15, 2009 at 4:56 PM

Rush never said he didn’t. Are you now making up quotes to support your argument? Do you work for the MSM?

He said McNabb didn’t live up to the hype, not that he didn’t deserve a job.

Ampersand on October 15, 2009 at 5:02 PM

starfleet_dude343 on October 15, 2009 at 2:53 PM

LOL, Irsay is a spoiled rich kid who inherited everything he got in life. He’s also an O’bama supporter.

If he were a Republican,, you would compare him to the frat guy who used to be a part-owner of the Texas Rangers.

Del Dolemonte on October 15, 2009 at 5:02 PM

starfleet_dude on October 15, 2009 at 4:52 PM

Your quote is really more about how the MSM treats race. Do you deny it? Do you think Obama would’ve even had a sniff of the presidency if he were not black? If Obama were white, he would essentially be John Edwards with less experience and less eloquence.

The simple fact is that the MSM will often soft peddle criticism if it is directed against a minority for fear of being called racists. There’s tons of evidence to support that point.

FWIW I think Rush was wrong on McNabb since there are several black QB’s and McNabb was not the first or unique in that regard. Other black QB’s have been subject to criticism, regardless of their race.

So Rush’s “sin” was to take a political observation and transfer it to sports, where it does not belong and is easily falsifable. Certainly his sin was not one of racism.

PackerBronco on October 15, 2009 at 5:04 PM

gwelf, Limbaugh was offering his usual lame assertions about affirmative action and applying it to the NFL in the case of McNabb. The NFL didn’t care for how he made race an issue by insinuating it was the league’s desire for a black QB to do well that accounted for McNabb’s starting for the Eagles. Racist opinionating isn’t reasoned argument, it’s just racist.

starfleet_dude on October 15, 2009 at 5:05 PM

Yeah. Or maybe you just failed because you’re an asshole who says stupid things.

crr343 on October 15, 2009 at 2:58 PM

LOL, spoken by an expert on the subject.

Now, I’ll ask you what I have been asking the Limbaugh-haters on the other thread for over 24 hours now, with no response:

Please give us credible, multi-sourced cites and examples of Limbaugh’s “stupid statements”. After all, you’re the one doing the accusing, and the burden of proof is always on the accuser.

Del Dolemonte on October 15, 2009 at 5:06 PM

As if any other black man could have run in place of Obama, or that McNabb didn’t have the skills to be a Pro Bowl level NFL quarterback. Saying that someone’s genueine accomplishments are mostly due to their race is what’s wrong with both of the above notions, gwelf.

starfleet_dude on October 15, 2009 at 4:56 PM

Obama has charisma but he is not really accomplished. And the fact he was black was a huge factor in people voting for him (or not voting against him). The race card was pulled out constantly during the campaign (even against the Clintons) and is still used. The Obama administration has been a grand demonstration of incompetence. When he was elected the media talked about the historic moment – and what was the historic moment?

Does McNabb belong in the NFL based on his skill? Yes – and Rush didn’t say he didn’t belong. Rush said he was getting undue credit and that McNabb’s abilities were being talked up more than was warranted because McNabb was black.

gwelf on October 15, 2009 at 5:07 PM

LOL, Irsay is a spoiled rich kid who inherited everything he got in life. He’s also an O’bama supporter.

Nope:

It’s hard to say exactly what Irsay’s politics are. The man is a lifelong sports executive, having effectively inherited the team from his father, Robert, who moved the Colts from Baltimore to Indianapolis.

But the most effective barometer of the politics of an individual can be seen where they put their money. And after I did an examination of Irsay in the FEC’s database, a picture emerged of a man who must be somewhat conservative in his political beliefs.

Now it cannot be questioned that Irsay is a donor to Democrats. But most of the candidates he’s given to on the Democratic side have been Hoosiers. It comes as no surprise that an Indiana business owner would give to members of the state’s Congressional delegation, whichever side of the aisle they’re on.

But when approached by national political efforts over the past decade, Irsay has really put his money behind Republican causes. Since 1999, I count $5000 given to the Republican National Committee, with no matching donation to the DNC. And in terms of candidates, Irsay ponied up $5000 for President George W. Bush in all. No support for Senator Kerry’s failed 2004 bid, and he gave nothing to President Obama’s campaign for office in 2008, or to any of his Democratic competitors.

This is not to say that Irsay is necessarily a card-carrying Republican. But when it’s come time to sign on the dotted line, Republicans, not Democrats, have been the beneficiaries of Irsay’s national political attentions.

starfleet_dude on October 15, 2009 at 5:07 PM

Does this mean that other businesses (private businesses that don’t leech off of the taxpayer with having their main venues paid for by the public) will be given the leeway to hire and fire whomever they want without fear of un-American lies about minorty “rights” and discrimination? I am for owners of businesses having the right to hire and fire whoever they want, along with property owners having full rights to sell or rent their properties to only those they want to do business with.

progressoverpeace on October 15, 2009 at 4:15 PM

Ah. Something, of course, we cannot legally do.
And yet, how many people are blacklisted from making a living bcs of their political or personal or lifestyle views?
It happens ALL the time.

As if any other black man could have run in place of Obama, or that McNabb didn’t have the skills to be a Pro Bowl level NFL quarterback. Saying that someone’s genueine accomplishments are mostly due to their race is what’s wrong with both of the above notions, gwelf.

starfleet_dude on October 15, 2009 at 4:56 PM

I know-the truth does hurt.
And of course, in Sensitive Land, we cannot call people on their political correctness when it deals with race.
I hypothesize Obama is an affirmative action president.
He clearly has shown he has no skills that were attributed to him by the media or Democrats.
He is a straw man-put in office by the media as they ran their propaganda campaign to elect the first black man as POTUS.
I hypothesize affirmative action is a failed policy.
I have listened to Rush off & on for many years.
He’s not a racist.
I have lived among many races across many states my whole life.
I am not racist.
Rush & people like him who point out the blatant truth & hypocrisy of this affirmative action political correctness will always be villified by the race huksters bcs it gets in the way of their game.
Dude-you fail.

Badger40 on October 15, 2009 at 5:07 PM

As if any other black man could have run in place of Obama,

starfleet_dude on October 15, 2009 at 4:56 PM

You’re not too swift. No non-black with The Precedent’s lack of record, lack of skills, lack of anything tangible could have run. Why do you think the comics “couldn’t find anything funny” about the most inept, moronic, disastrous person to ever occupy the White House? Who else were the press that way with?

And the white-guilt vote would not have gone to anyone who wasn’t black. It’s not a matter of switching out another black, but the fact that affirmative action and white gult drove this ridiculous joke to the White House. With any other person, making any of the unbelievable mistakes that your moronic and ineligible Precedent has made nearly every singel day since he’s gotten in, there would have been a field day, but with your moron, no one has anything to say about it.

And if that Nobel joke didn’t clue you in, then you are beyond hopeless. Having a guy at the inauguration call for a time “when white embraces what’s right” and then awarding the slimeball the Medal of Freedom. It’s beyond a joke, and his supporters, like you, are too stupid and too hateful of America to be able to understand it. You deserve the idiot. You should take him and go to Indonesia, which is more the type of place for your types – and is the more natural setting for the Indonesian moron to be.

But, keep talking about how a guy who doesn’t have the mathematical abilities of the typical 8th grader – a guy who says ridiculous things like “profit and earnings ratios” (which is like someone telling you he drove at sixty-five “minutes and hours” on the highway, to let you know how moronic your messiah is) and you think there is anything but affirmative action and white guilt considerations to getting him to where he’s at? Maybe I need to write this in Austrian so that you will understand it?

progressoverpeace on October 15, 2009 at 5:09 PM

BTW-it’s funny how the NFL gets such treatment by major cities with those tax-payer funded stadiums.
They really don’t bring in the kind of $$ it takes to pay for the thing.
All it does is add another city tax to people in those cities.
I thank God I hate sports.
And I thank God I married a man who can’t stand them either.
The only sport I respect is Pro-Rodeo bcs they pay to play.

Badger40 on October 15, 2009 at 5:10 PM

gwelf, Limbaugh was offering his usual lame assertions about affirmative action and applying it to the NFL in the case of McNabb. The NFL didn’t care for how he made race an issue by insinuating it was the league’s desire for a black QB to do well that accounted for McNabb’s starting for the Eagles. Racist opinionating isn’t reasoned argument, it’s just racist.

starfleet_dude on October 15, 2009 at 5:05 PM

How are you defining racism? If you claim someone else is using affirmative action you’re a racist?

If you’re claiming Rush didn’t think McNabb should have started or received a lot of hype because he’s black then that would be racist – but this is absolutely not what Rush said or meant.

gwelf on October 15, 2009 at 5:11 PM

As if any other black man could have run in place of Obama,

starfleet_dude on October 15, 2009 at 4:56 PM

Why not Bill Cosby?
He’s a lot more honest and way smarter than Obama.
And yet, many of his own race don’t like him bcs he tells the truth about why the black community is in such failure mode.

Badger40 on October 15, 2009 at 5:11 PM

Dude, check out this Slate article from 2003.

mike_NC9 on October 15, 2009 at 5:11 PM

Saying that someone’s genueine accomplishments are mostly due to their race is what’s wrong with both of the above notions, gwelf.

starfleet_dude on October 15, 2009 at 4:56 PM

With regard to Obama, let’s hear of his accomplishments prior being elected to the Presidency. C’mon, starfleet_dude, put up or shut up. List those accomplishments right here.

But I suspect you’ll punt and ignore this post because you can’t list any genuine accomplishments and if you try you’ll be laughed off the forum.

PackerBronco on October 15, 2009 at 5:12 PM

If you claim someone else is using affirmative action you’re a racist?

If you’re claiming Rush didn’t think McNabb should have started or received a lot of hype because he’s black then that would be racist – but this is absolutely not what Rush said or meant.

gwelf on October 15, 2009 at 5:11 PM

I remember hearing Rush say that on the radio.
But I can think logically for myself.
I don’t live in a bubble of political correctness like starfleet-dud does.

Badger40 on October 15, 2009 at 5:13 PM

Not ONE NFL rep or owner came to his defense.

jjraines343 on October 15, 2009 at 3:24 PM

I wasn’t aware you were an NFL team owner. But you would have to be to be making such a statement.

Del Dolemonte on October 15, 2009 at 5:13 PM

PackerBronco on October 15, 2009 at 5:12 PM

OK. In all fairness, OBama is responsible for making Michelle proud of America again.

Badger40 on October 15, 2009 at 5:14 PM

Limbaugh used to have a gig on ESPN until he got himself booted off, for good reason too.

starfleet_dude343 on October 15, 2009 at 3:27 PM

Wrong again. He did not “get himself booted off”, as ESPN never asked him to leave. He resigned on his own.

BTW you were much funnier over at Captains’ Quarters.

Del Dolemonte on October 15, 2009 at 5:16 PM

If you’re claiming Rush didn’t think McNabb should have started or received a lot of hype because he’s black then that would be racist – but this is absolutely not what Rush said or meant.

Sorry, but it was Limbaugh who inserted the matter of race in his assessment of McNabb’s starting for the Eagles, and no one else. For anyone who was familiar with Limbaugh and his past playing of the race card and appeal to white resentment of blacks, it wasn’t a surprise.

starfleet_dude on October 15, 2009 at 5:17 PM

How many of these owners are living it up in taxpayer funded stadiums?

reaganaut on October 15, 2009 at 3:35 PM

Uh, most of them?

Rich kid Irsay’s team plays in a stadium that had some private financing, but it also had a lot of taxpayer money.

As far as I know, only The Razor (where the Patriots play) and PacBell Stadium in California were privately funded.

Del Dolemonte on October 15, 2009 at 5:20 PM

Dude, check out this Slate article from 2003.

mike_NC9 on October 15, 2009 at 5:11 PM

Excellent.
I read the whole thing. And I was listening to that program that day.
There was nothing racist about Rush’s comment.
But the press villifies and destroys good & bad people alike.

Badger40 on October 15, 2009 at 5:21 PM

starfleet_dude on October 15, 2009 at 5:17 PM

What are your feelings about Bryant Gumbel? Just wondering. What he said was not about media treatment of blacks, but about black superiority in sports. I’m not arguing with what he said, but I just wonder what you thought of it.

progressoverpeace on October 15, 2009 at 5:23 PM

For anyone who was familiar with Limbaugh and his past playing of the race card and appeal to white resentment of blacks, it wasn’t a surprise.

starfleet_dude on October 15, 2009 at 5:17 PM

Limbaugh calls those playing the race card out on their comments.
Bcs he chooses to state the obvious-as in why race huksters always play the race card- he is villifies as a racist.
Mr dud-you exemplifiy what is wrong with this country regrading race:
Race huksters have a pass on their ‘reverse’ racism.
Those who point out the ‘reverse’ racism are called racists.
Evil= good
Good =evil.
It’s insane-and you are part of the absolute insanity that this stuff IS.

Badger40 on October 15, 2009 at 5:23 PM

Sorry, but it was Limbaugh who inserted the matter of race in his assessment of McNabb’s starting for the Eagles, and no one else. For anyone who was familiar with Limbaugh and his past playing of the race card and appeal to white resentment of blacks, it wasn’t a surprise.

starfleet_dude on October 15, 2009 at 5:17 PM

Ah, I see. Rush is racist for pointing out the bigotry of low expectations in others and your interpretation of Rush being racist in the past makes it obvious he was racist in this incident. So you back up your current smear with other smears. I guess Obama really did bring about a post-racial nation – a liberal can no longer see race as an issue in anything except for when an evil conservative talk show host inserts it there.

gwelf on October 15, 2009 at 5:26 PM

Ah, I see. Rush is racist for pointing out the bigotry of low expectations in others
gwelf on October 15, 2009 at 5:26 PM

And isn’t affirmative action so wonderful?
It puts incompetent people in jobs-setting them up for epic failure while denying those that are competent.
It is the left’s condecension of affirmative action that leads to dependency of these people.
It’s pretty sad that you suck so bad that you have to have affirmative action to get a job.
It’s really saying that black people aren’t smart enough to get a job themselves. They have to get the govt to give them a job they aren’t qualified for.
And yet, when us white folks point out the problem with it, we are the racists.
Unbelievable.

Badger40 on October 15, 2009 at 5:30 PM

Well Sports fans, it is the end of the First Half, and the score is the Left Wing Racists 7, and El Rushbo 3. The Left Wing Racists got their score by their special team effort by sliming up the playing field with lies, distortions and innuendos which cannot be Fact Checked. El Rushbo will be putting in his special team, the Lawyer’s of Truth squad for the receiving of the 2nd Half kick-off. Stay tuned.

DL13 on October 15, 2009 at 5:34 PM

OK. In all fairness, OBama is responsible for making Michelle proud of America again.

Badger40 on October 15, 2009 at 5:14 PM

Actually, Michelle’s pride was only conditional on Obama winning the election. If he had lost, she would have lost her pride in America again. So it doesn’t count for an Obama accomplishment.

C’mon starfleet_dude, where’s that list of Obama’s accomplishments?

… crickets …

PackerBronco on October 15, 2009 at 5:35 PM

No, it was saying that McNabb was starting because he was black. That deservedly got Limbaugh the boot from ESPN.

starfleet_dude343 on October 15, 2009 at 4:43 PM

Limbaugh never said that. Here is his exact ESPN quote, which I am sure you have never read or heard, because you don’t want to be confused with “the truth”.

“I think what we’ve had here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. They’re interested in black coaches and black quarterbacks doing well. I think there is a little hope invested in McNabb, and he got a lot of the credit for the performance of this team that he didn’t deserve. The defense carried this team.”

And Rush was never “booted from ESPN”, he resigned.

Please keep trying, though!

Del Dolemonte on October 15, 2009 at 5:37 PM

In this latest media firestorm over Rusn, one of MSM’s lead comments is that he’s a “polarizing figure.”

And how do they know? Those non-polarizing figures Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson told them so, lol.

xblade on October 15, 2009 at 5:39 PM

Hey, I’m already boycotting them over Michael Vick. This is just another nail in the coffin.

Blacklake on October 15, 2009 at 5:39 PM

starfleet_dude343 on October 15, 2009 at 5:07 PM

LOL! First of all, your unsourced cite confirms my first claim. And doesn’t disprove the second claim. At least give me a link so I can source it.

Del Dolemonte on October 15, 2009 at 5:42 PM

For anyone who was familiar with Limbaugh and his past playing of the race card and appeal to white resentment of blacks, it wasn’t a surprise.

starfleet_dude343 on October 15, 2009 at 5:17 PM

Funny how you’ve never been able to back up your claims of Rush doing this with credible evidence.

Please give us some.

Del Dolemonte on October 15, 2009 at 5:46 PM

For anyone who was familiar with Limbaugh and his past playing of the race card and appeal to white resentment of blacks, it wasn’t a surprise.

starfleet_dude343 on October 15, 2009 at 5:17 PM

Rush is the real race hustler and all those who came out to denounce him as racist using made up ‘quotes’ are what exactly?

If you were familiar with Rush’s schtick you’d know it’s using satire to turn the logic of liberal race thinking back on them to show them how stupid they are.

gwelf on October 15, 2009 at 5:51 PM

test

starfleet_dude on October 15, 2009 at 5:54 PM

LOL! First of all, your unsourced cite confirms my first claim. And doesn’t disprove the second claim. At least give me a link so I can source it.

Del Dolemonte on October 15, 2009 at 5:42 PM

It was probably Michael Rosten, a reporter for Huffington Post (and the New York Sun)…surprise, surprise…he has a problem with Rush, actually with anything conservative.
*
Star-Fleet, please pay attention to your president, get out of your pajamas and become productive.

right2bright on October 15, 2009 at 5:58 PM

starfleet_dude on October 15, 2009 at 4:37 PM

The steroids have gone to your head and you’re starting to foam at the mouth.Is it time for a tranquilizer dart? Not to mention the damage being done to your testicles (if you have any).

inevitable on October 15, 2009 at 5:58 PM

Sorry dudes, I can’t seem to post for some reason.

starfleet_dude on October 15, 2009 at 5:58 PM

It wasn’t a voluntary resignation.

starfleet_dude on October 15, 2009 at 5:59 PM

Maybe after Rush sues the hell out of all of them.Olbermann can change his spot called the worst person in the world to the brokest person in the world.Then show pictures of himself Chris,Shuster and the rest of the jerks at MSNBC ,CNN,ESPN plus Jessie & Al.

thmcbb on October 15, 2009 at 6:00 PM

Weird! Anyone else having issues posting?

starfleet_dude on October 15, 2009 at 6:00 PM

Weird! Anyone else having issues posting?

starfleet_dude on October 15, 2009 at 6:00 PM

I not having any issues. I know they upgraded the site this week and maybe there are still some quirks to work out?

gwelf on October 15, 2009 at 6:03 PM

Sorry dudes, I can’t seem to post for some reason.

starfleet_dude on October 15, 2009 at 5:58 PM

Still waiting for the list of Obama’s accomplishments …

PackerBronco on October 15, 2009 at 6:12 PM

Rush: Spend some of your money and drag these lying sacks of sh*t through the mud. Make them wish they’de never jumped on the race baiting bandwagon. Make the advertisers at MSNBC wonder if it might be better to be promoted on network that wasn’t being taken to court for libel.

anniekc on October 15, 2009 at 6:21 PM

Why not just insist that Rush and those of his ilk display a yellow Star of David on their lapel, so we can readily tell who the controversial ones are, and mete out the new elitist justice upon them.

Mark30339 on October 15, 2009 at 3:59 PM

Hits the nail on the head, good one

aceinstall on October 15, 2009 at 6:27 PM

It’s going to be like this until someone strikes back.

Chaz706 on October 15, 2009 at 6:32 PM

orry dudes, I can’t seem to post for some reason.

starfleet_dude343 on October 15, 2009 at 5:58 PM

Yeah (Del said after reading the multiple posts of you saying this over and over)

Del Dolemonte on October 15, 2009 at 6:34 PM

Sorry dudes, I can’t seem to post for some reason.

starfleet_dude on October 15, 2009 at 5:58 PM

Which is funny, seeing as you just posted…maybe if you get out of your pajamas like your president asked you too….

right2bright on October 15, 2009 at 6:38 PM

So if the NFL won’t do business with Rush, but will do business with George Soros, can anyone tell me how a conservative could possibly continue to feed the NFL beast? I wouldn’t watch an NFL game now if George Soros paid me to.

Professional football: It’s only for liberals now.

Rational Thought on October 15, 2009 at 6:40 PM

starfleet:

I am not a huge Limbaugh fan, but the man is not a racist. This whole thing just points out what a double standard there is..folks like you are just too full of hate to see it.

Sad.

Terrye on October 15, 2009 at 6:41 PM

LOL, here’s a classic.

A couple of hours ago I was checking out Yahoo Sports’ NFL page to see what time the Patriots are playing this Sunday, and I stumbled across this hilarious article by Jason Cole.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Ah21bK30tVtWc.RLRoNZFznxxLsF?slug=jc-limbaughowners101309&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

When I read this earlier today, they had an outdated picture of Rush in the sidebar. Showing him appearing to weigh much more than he does now.

Suddenly it has disappeared. I blame Bush.

Del Dolemonte on October 15, 2009 at 6:42 PM

Sad.

Terrye on October 15, 2009 at 6:41 PM

Everyone is a racist. Just ask Charles Johnson.

scalleywag on October 15, 2009 at 6:46 PM

starfleet_dude and his liberal ilk never got past Saul Alanski’s “separate, target, and ridicule” strategy. They of course don’t have the knowledge or mental capacity to actually engage intellectually and seriously debate anyone on ISSUES. Their only recourse is character assassination.

bannedbyhuffpo on October 15, 2009 at 6:46 PM

Coming soon to a State-run Television network near you: The too big to fail Nationalized Football League!

Asked for comment, President Obama said,”Let me be clear. I have no desire to own a football league. That is why I am glad to announce that my good friend George Soros, a true patriot, has agreed to run the entire league and all the teams for you, the American people. And my good friends at Acorn tell me that they can supply all the teams with cheer leaders from El Salvador. They may look young, but don’t let that fool you. Take my word for it. They know their tricks.”

Ordinary American on October 15, 2009 at 6:47 PM

I like this “POLARIZING” label; The government controlled main stream media is first to POLARIZE with the most inflammable language possible; Complicit, of course, with the wishes of the White House.
Dissenters and commentators like us and Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, are lucky we’ve been granted a pass, so far. I’d say we’re tokens for “independence” to make them look open minded!

Cybergeezer on October 15, 2009 at 6:51 PM

elrushbo is the modern day voice of VOA back in the day when it was to save Americans lives in hostile theaters.

hawkman on October 15, 2009 at 3:12 PM

Your Voice of America analogy is most apt.

onlineanalyst on October 15, 2009 at 6:51 PM

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