Fox News poll: Only 43% would vote to reelect Obama

posted at 7:33 pm on October 15, 2009 by Allahpundit

Don’t get too excited about his numbers. Peter Beinart’s right that presidents are usually rock solid for reelection if the economy’s improving on Election Day and The One still has plenty of time to make that happen.

But he surely doesn’t want to have to start from here:

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His best issue right now is Iran? Good lord. Meanwhile, his overall approval rating’s a scant +4 this month, the lowest yet recorded by FNC, but that’s less interesting than the polling on ObamaCare. The sample this time included more Republicans than the one Fox used last month when it got a slew of disastrous feedback on health care, so no surprise that some of the numbers this month have gotten even worse. Still, the split among indies on health care in the question asked above was … 36/53. More:

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That last question broke 46/37 last month; the spread’s actually growing as we get further into this clusterfark. Which probably isn’t enough to stop it, but enough to generate a GOP wave next year? Yeah, maybe. Especially if they go nuclear.


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What this does show is the importance of the economy to a Presidential election. Without the financial crisis last September and the resulting economic uncertainties favoring Democrats, Obama does not get elected. But with the economic uncertainties, Obama money (7 to 1 advantage) and the Obama loving media could produce a result that should never have happened.

Phil Byler on October 15, 2009 at 8:58 PM

Oh please. Take your nutty conspiracy theories somewhere else.

terryannonline on October 15, 2009 at 8:47 PM

Awww, for shame, if only you were Charles Johnson you could ban Mr Purple for saying things that scare you…

doriangrey on October 15, 2009 at 9:00 PM

Fox ‘News’ Poll. All you have to know…

simplesimon on October 15, 2009 at 7:42 PM
simplesimon
simplesimon HATER.

huckelberry on October 15, 2009 at 9:00 PM

Ok, Instapundit linked this…I think it says it all:

http://tipstrategies.com/archive/geography-of-jobs/

AUINSC on October 15, 2009 at 9:02 PM

1980 Carter was a disaster, it gave us Reagan.

2012, if he hasn’t been impeached, Obama will give us Palin.

EVEN IF the Republican s take back Congress, it won’t be like 1994. Way too much damage for them to fix in 2 years. They can stop the bleeding, but the recovery will take time.

gary4205 on October 15, 2009 at 9:04 PM

I hope in 2012 this is not Axelrod.

Dire Straits on October 15, 2009 at 9:04 PM

terryannonline on October 15, 2009 at 8:47 PM
Awww, for shame, if only you were Charles Johnson you could ban Mr Purple for saying things that scare you…

doriangrey on October 15, 2009 at 9:00 PM

Watch out, those nutcups over there are ‘watching’ us and posting their ‘favorite’ quotes that they can peck over from HA.

HornetSting on October 15, 2009 at 9:09 PM

Well, as always, these elections depend on the spineless, gutless Independents who pull the lever in their own self interests.

Hard to believe these jag-offs have become the most coveted demographic in politics.

I despise them.

David2.0 on October 15, 2009 at 9:09 PM

Peter Beinart’s right that presidents are usually rock solid for reelection if the economy’s improving on Election Day and The One still has plenty of time to make that happen.

If the economy improves it will be despite Obama’s attempted actions, not because of them.

MB4 on October 15, 2009 at 9:14 PM

Speaking of 2012… I just got a call from Newt Gingrich’s PAC (American Solutions) asking for money. He’s running in 2012 and he’s getting an early start.

terryannonline on October 15, 2009 at 9:14 PM

I think too many people are counting on an election in 2012. I don’t think the one thinks that’s necessary. His role models seem to be Chavez and Castro…

jwp1964 on October 15, 2009 at 9:14 PM

Odamna will be precedent for life. Haven’t you heard, the recession is over. So say all the economic guru’s on any channel but FOX. simpelton I hope yo mama has enough change left over from hooking to buy you cigs .

huckelberry on October 15, 2009 at 9:17 PM

These are people who I think will run in 2012:

Mitt Romney
Sarah Palin
Newt Gingrich
Tim Pawlenty and
Mike Huckabee

Those will be the top five candidates.

terryannonline on October 15, 2009 at 9:21 PM

Watch out, those nutcups over there are ‘watching’ us and posting their ‘favorite’ quotes that they can peck over from HA.

HornetSting on October 15, 2009 at 9:09 PM

Hmmm, so the fact that Charles has banned over 1500 people for merely posting views that Charles does not share should be hidden in the great memory home of the internet?

doriangrey on October 15, 2009 at 9:22 PM

Oh please. Take your nutty conspiracy theories somewhere else.

terryannonline on October 15, 2009 at 8:47 PM

Thank you, I think you speak for most of us…as in if I see one more post from a birther–I will use it for an excuse to get out the whiskey…

lovingmyUSA on October 15, 2009 at 9:23 PM

Allah asked us on another thread to knock off the comments about Charles. If Ace’s commenters can do it (Ace asked them to knock it off), we should respect Allah’s request also.

lovingmyUSA on October 15, 2009 at 9:25 PM

Ok, Instapundit linked this…I think it says it all:

http://tipstrategies.com/archive/geography-of-jobs/

AUINSC on October 15, 2009 at 9:02 PM

Very cool map.

BadgerHawk on October 15, 2009 at 9:25 PM

Watch out, those nutcups over there are ‘watching’ us and posting their ‘favorite’ quotes that they can peck over from HA.

HornetSting on October 15, 2009 at 9:09 PM
Hmmm, so the fact that Charles has banned over 1500 people for merely posting views that Charles does not share should be hidden in the great memory home of the internet?

doriangrey on October 15, 2009 at 9:22 PM

We’ve been warned not to talk about that. Sorry.

HornetSting on October 15, 2009 at 9:25 PM

O/T, but great cartoon that needs to go viral!

http://thespeechatimeforchoosing.blogspot.com/2009/10/make-mine-freedom.html

gary4205 on October 15, 2009 at 9:34 PM

Mitt Romney
Sarah Palin
Newt Gingrich
Tim Pawlenty and
Mike Huckabee

Those will be the top five candidates.

terryannonline on October 15, 2009 at 9:21 PM

Mr Newt MIGHT run, you you can bet you last dollar that the video of him and Nancy Pelosi sitting on the bench in the Algore “climate change” video will get played absolutely EVERY TIME his name is mentioned!

Next!

Romney will run. We people look at him, all they will see is “RomneyCare” tattooed on his forehead. He’s done.

Next!

Sarah, T-Paw, and Huckabee will run. It will be an interesting event.

T-Paw will bore everyone to death and Huck, well, he’ll be Huck. Still, it will be interesting.

Sarah Palin will be the nominee.

gary4205 on October 15, 2009 at 9:46 PM

We’ve been warned not to talk about that. Sorry.

HornetSting on October 15, 2009 at 9:25 PM

<—– shakes head…. tis a strange new world every day now…

doriangrey on October 15, 2009 at 9:55 PM

Sarah Palin will be the nominee.

I hope you’re wrong. I can deal with the other ones losing, but i’ll go crazy when she loses. Even this past election was easier to handle because I didn’t like McCain.

red26 on October 15, 2009 at 10:07 PM

The only agenda the Republicans need to run on is repealing every single bit of idiocy that has come out of the Democrats since 2006 and that will include Obama’s bed crapping policies.

Throw Democrats bodily out of office and kick Obama and his juvenile delinquent “administration” to the curb.

NoDonkey on October 15, 2009 at 10:10 PM

I hope you’re wrong. I can deal with the other ones losing, but i’ll go crazy when she loses. Even this past election was easier to handle because I didn’t like McCain.

red26 on October 15, 2009 at 10:07 PM

Yawn, go back to troll school, you are a terrible sock puppet. You have no style, no game.

gary4205 on October 15, 2009 at 10:21 PM

Ok, Instapundit linked this…I think it says it all:

http://tipstrategies.com/archive/geography-of-jobs/

AUINSC on October 15, 2009 at 9:02 PM

Obama’s legacy

daesleeper on October 15, 2009 at 10:23 PM

BREAKING: Dems Go Nuclear on Obamacare
by Connie Hair

10/15/2009

House Ways & Means Committee Chairman Charlie Rangel (D-N.Y.) held a hearing this morning to certify that H.R. 3200 — the main House Obamacare bill which was the subject of all the town hall rage in August — has met all requirements to pass as a “budget reconciliation” measure…

No amendments were allowed at the hearing and no debate. Rangel told Rep. Dave Camp (R-Mich.), the ranking Republican on the committee, that he would not have preferred to do it this way, but leadership — i.e., Speaker Pelosi — forced his hand.

While the media cameras are focused on Harry Reid’s office door, the House of Representatives has made it possible for H.R. 3200 to pass the Senate with 51 votes. It is still possible that Senator Reid won’t choose to use reconciliation in the Senate, but the odds against it are infinitesimal.

Since it has now cleared the Ways and Means Committee (fulfilling the $1 billion reconciliation requirement), H.R. 3200 will go to the Budget Committee where they will do the same thing that was done today in Ways & Means. They will agree that the bill has met the reconciliation requirements on a straight party line vote.

The bill then goes to Pelosi and the Rules Committee where Pelosi will do the same thing Reid is doing right now: merge the three House versions of H.R. 3200 together into whatever she wants it to be, then she will schedule it for a floor vote.

H.R. 3200 could see a floor vote in the next two weeks, or the first week of November. If it passes, the House it goes to the Senate and can pass there with 51 votes.
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=33997

lovingmyUSA on October 15, 2009 at 10:26 PM

If the economy improves it will be despite Obama’s attempted actions, not because of them.

MB4 on October 15, 2009 at 9:14 PM

However, if the economy improves enough and soon enough, and there are no catastrophic events that are obviously Obama’s fault, Barry is going to be very tough to beat. He has so many major sectors of the culture working for him, news, entertainment, teaching, unions, and the wine and cheese set.

I’m very confident we can win back the House in 2010, and make big inroads in the Senate. However, 2012 is a long way away and Barry’s numbers have not yet gone below the magic 40% in a group of national polls. If that happens, especially for at least six months, he’s toast, regardless of the economy.

Loxodonta on October 15, 2009 at 10:31 PM

Over at Ace’s:

Democrats Go Nuclear on Health Care, Clearing Way for “Reconcilation” Path
http://minx.cc/?post=293677

lovingmyUSA on October 15, 2009 at 10:31 PM

Sarah will not only be the nominee, she will win.

wildcat84 on October 15, 2009 at 10:42 PM

Yawn, go back to troll school, you are a terrible sock puppet. You have no style, no game.

Pathetic. One pessimistic comment and i’m a troll.

red26 on October 15, 2009 at 10:44 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaPA8fGeRUc

I don’t think the Duke would approve of what is going on.

wildcat84 on October 15, 2009 at 10:46 PM

If I am not mistaken something very big well blow up O’s ecomemy around Jan. 2011. The Bush tax cuts end. End of Story.

Now something for Allah it looks like Gallup is going to release a poll on Gov. Palin. Allah you better get you Meghan blow up doll ready better yet check out her twitpic.

Clyde5445 on October 15, 2009 at 10:47 PM

Meggie Mac blow up dolls would probably travel 50 miles across Colorado.

wildcat84 on October 15, 2009 at 10:48 PM

These numbers come only 10 months after dude took the helm.

They WILL get worse by November, 2010. A lot worse. If we get attacked by terrorists – they will get even worse. If Israel is attacked by Iran or Iran gets nukes or Israel is forced to attack Iran and Iran throws a hissy …

It gets worse for Obama.

If anything difficult happens while he’s sitting in the office – the numbers get worse because he will botch the handling on any crisis that appears before him no matter how simple and elementary the solution may be to it.

Why? Because we have an idiot in the Oval Office who can be relied upon to do one thing consistently …

screw up.

HondaV65 on October 15, 2009 at 11:07 PM

I hope you’re wrong. I can deal with the other ones losing, but i’ll go crazy when she loses. Even this past election was easier to handle because I didn’t like McCain.

red26 on October 15, 2009 at 10:07 PM

Well … the goal is to win. ;)

And … as long as the Tea Party folks take the GOP next year …

We will win.

HondaV65 on October 15, 2009 at 11:09 PM

However, if the economy improves enough and soon enough, and there are no catastrophic events that are obviously Obama’s fault, Barry is going to be very tough to beat. He has so many major sectors of the culture working for him, news, entertainment, teaching, unions, and the wine and cheese set.

I totally agree. But we’d have a much better shot if Murdoch ever got NBC.

red26 on October 15, 2009 at 11:12 PM

Nuclear option = Thelma and Louise ending in 2010 for Dems!

Khun Joe on October 16, 2009 at 12:17 AM

It’s scary that 48% of those polled approve of Obama’s efforts vis-a-vis the economy. It only goes to show that there are an enormous number of Americans who have absolutely no clue when it comes to economics and policy. Sort of like Obama.

JDPerren on October 16, 2009 at 12:19 AM

The ones who approve don’t do so because of results but because he’s “trying.”

Mojave Mark on October 16, 2009 at 1:02 AM

In a Fox News poll, Dick Morris is considered a “Democrat”.

Decider on October 16, 2009 at 1:04 AM

gary4205 on October 16, 2009 at 9:46 PM
wildcat on October 16, 2009 at 10:42 PM

I think we have a long way to go before Sarah become the GOP nominee in 2012. I have watched enough sports and politics to understand the peaks and valleys of competition and how the presence of setbacks and pitfalls can throw a team for a loop or a campaign off the rails. Upsets or dark horses happen in politics as well as in sports.

Thus I will not commit to Sarah being the GOP nominee in 2012 but I will say that I am 90% sure it will either be Romney, Huckabee or Palin unless one of them does not run. Then that would open the door for a dark horse like Pawlenty or somebody else.

Now why do I think that way. Yes it is 2 years to the primary debates but if one is to be successful in presidential politics in the 21st c one must have started planning for a serious run no later than 2 years out from January 2012 which would put it at January 2010. Look at what happened to Fred Thompson when he tried to short-cut the process. It’s like a boxer who thinks he can slack off training for a fight because of his experience and then gets his ass handed to him by a fighter who “paid his dues”.

Why I am so impressed with Sarah Palin is because I really believe she gets it, that there are no short cuts to success, the making a serious run at the presidency in the 21st is a long-term commitment that involves first getting your ducks in a row, then building the infrastructure of a campaign gradually one piece at a time in a very methodical, efficient manner, and then using her book as a passport to go on the road to start making her case to the jury (American voters)as she builds up more credibility along the way and yes LEGITIMIZES her claims to be a leader of the GOP and a frontrunner for the nomination.

The latter is still up in the air. It’s called performance and execution. “That’s why they play the game”.

But I will say this if Palin can get to September 2010 relatively unscathed and “ready for bear” I do believe that in the 60 days leading up the 2010 midterms we might before our eyes be witnessing the transformation of a caterpillar into a butterfly.

Sarah is in good shape and poised to be one of the two finalists for the GOP nomination in 2012, and this far out that is not a bad spot to be.

technopeasant on October 16, 2009 at 1:57 AM

Sarah will not only be the nominee, she will win.

wildcat84

She may win something, but it won’t be the White House. Any shot we may have will be killed by her nomination.

It’s moot anyway. The economy will be just fine come 2012, not because of Obama but despite him. As a result, brotha man will cruise to re-election. To not re-elect him would be racist, and the media will be sure to let everyone know. And just like 2008, plenty of wet-noodle independents will bend over for the chocolate enema because they’re afraid someone will think badly of them.

xblade on October 16, 2009 at 3:25 AM

<—– shakes head…. tis a strange new world every day now…

doriangrey

Seriously….when did CJ get moderator privileges here?

xblade on October 16, 2009 at 3:29 AM

technopeasant on October 16, 2009 at 1:57 AM

I guess I’m just more optimistic. I’ve been “all in” for Palin since I first heard about her several years ago. I was convinced she was going to be in the White House some day.

I hear you about the butterfly though. Frankly I think we are seeing that now. She is such a fast learner that she has grown incredibly in the last couple of years.

She simply blows you away.

But here’s what I see, and why I see it. I see Sarah having a tough, but relatively fast past to the nomination. Sarah has things money can’t buy, and schools can’t teach you. First, she has charisma, REAL charisma out the ying yang. She immediately draws you in. She grabs your attention.

Sarah has a instinct for politics that one rarely sees. She is just a natural at this. She’s like a really good chess player who not only sees his move, but what your counter will be, and then his next, and so on. In other words, two or three plays ahead of the competition.

And of course, she has common sense, something totally lacking among the “elites” in our society.

With ObamaCare, I just can’t see Romney being able to shake his folly with MittensCare. He can blame the mess on the democrats “ruining his baby,” but the fact that he didn’t see that coming is all you need to know about him.

And Huckabee ain’t gonna get it done. His ego will make him run, but it ain’t gonna happen.

I think Pawlenty will actually be more of a challenge, because he will end up being the media’s golden boy. He’s just so John McCain they won’t be able to stop themselves.

In the end, this will give Sarah a chance to debate and debate hard, and that’s what we want. If she wins the nomination too easy, which she might, it’ll look like she had no competition to challenge her. If she has a good old knock down drag out deal, it’ll prove she is who WE know she is. Plus it’ll just be fun to watch!

I think you could run a set of toenail clippers in 2012 and beat Obama. But Palin won’t just beat him, she will win big, giving her a real mandate to deconstruct decades of Washington’s mistakes.

gary4205 on October 16, 2009 at 4:02 AM

gary4205 on October 16, 2009 at 4:02 AM

I predict a 15 round heavyweight championship of the world, a bare-knuckle brawl in the center of the ring where Obama will not escape unscathed. Sarah will land many telling blows and open wounds. It will be a fight to the finish. Sarah will never give up.

Obama could still win with a crooked referee in his corner and judges that have been bribed. Sarah will have to knock the Messiah out to win IMHO. Will the referee (the MSM) prevent him from getting knocked out? We’ll know in 2012.

technopeasant on October 16, 2009 at 6:55 AM

Gallup just came out with F/UF on Sarah Palin:
F UF
SARAH PALIN 40 50
DEMS 14 72
REP 69 25
INDY 41 48

1013 ADULTS

technopeasant on October 16, 2009 at 6:59 AM

I was going to compare the Obamas to the Jeffersons, but after giving it some thought, I remembered that for all of his inane buffonery, the character George Jefferson worked and paid for everything the family had.

The Obamas are just another black family in public housing, except for their million dollar house in Chicago, which we can’t search the title on.

Mr. Grump on October 16, 2009 at 9:07 AM

Rasmussen daily tracking poll:

-11 (28-39) strongly approve-strongly disapprove

-4(47-51) approval-disapproval

First day at 47 approval since Sept 17 and has been between 47 and 52 approval every day for 6 weeks.

Per Rasmussen, Obama did not get a Nobel peace prize bounce.

technopeasant on October 16, 2009 at 9:34 AM

150 comments in…don’t feel like reading them all….if someone else said it

43% + 8% ACORN vote = win.

angryed on October 16, 2009 at 9:57 AM

Obama’s plan to force people to welfare: Story here:
http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/16/morning-bell-obamacare-puts-you-on-welfare/

Cybergeezer on October 16, 2009 at 12:42 PM

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