WSJ: Palin to launch new political group
posted at 5:37 pm on October 14, 2009 by Allahpundit
“There will be an announcement about it coming up,” Palin associate Tim Crawford said Wednesday.
The New York Post reported this week that Palin’s new group will be called “Stand Up For Our Nation.” (News Corp. owns both the Post and The Wall Street Journal as well as HarperCollins Publishers, publisher of Palin’s book.) Crawford, who is treasurer of Palin’s existing political-action committee, SarahPAC, refused to provide any details about the new organization’s purpose or structure.
But Palin supporters say the former Alaska governor and last year’s GOP vice presidential nominee is eager to keep the public’s attention, even as she rakes in big earnings. “She wants to continue to be in a position to help causes dear to her heart and help people close to her,” said Fred Malek, a former fund-raiser for Sen. John McCain.
I figured Conservatives 4 Palin would have the skinny on what this is about, but nope. Just the basic facts over there so far. I’m assuming it’ll be the domestic-policy equivalent of Liz Cheney’s new group: Anti-tax, anti-bailout, anti-ObamaCare, anti-statism. The big question is whether it positions itself as fundamentally libertarian, replete with attacks on the Fed per the Paulnuts’ favorite hobbyhorse, or fundamentally Republican and in line with mainstream GOP talking points. My guess is the former, given how she’s trying to cast herself as a populist/purist conservative outsider as an alternative to Mitt and Huck. You’ll know she’s serious when she comes out for legalizing weed.
Exit question one: Would someone set up two political action groups if they weren’t thinking seriously about running for president? Exit question two: How come she didn’t end up partnering with Liz Cheney on Keep America Safe, anyway? It would have been an amazing force multiplier among the grassroots to see their two favorite hawkish women on the same team. Maybe each was afraid that the group would end up being primarily a vehicle for the other? Or maybe Stand Up For Our Nation is itself a group aimed at foreign policy that’ll end up competing with Cheney’s for donations. Which would be … weird.









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Huh, the Wasilla paper hates her? Oh, you mean the ADN in ANCHORAGE? Color me surprised that the big statewide paper is liberal.
battleoflepanto1571 on October 14, 2009 at 7:28 PM
Point me in the direction of the center of the Sun and I’m there, baby!!
WordsMatter on October 14, 2009 at 7:28 PM
The revised GOP primary calendar for 2012 is tailor made for Sarah.
After Iowa and NH, there will a be host of Western States voting (much earlier than before), including Alaska, Montana, Idaho, etc. She could easily go into Super Tuesday with a strong lead in delegates.
Norwegian on October 14, 2009 at 7:28 PM
Ding! Ding! Ding!
I totally agree. And it’s not inconceivable should could win iowa or new hampshire in a crowded field on name recognition alone.
The “west state” push for ’12 is interesting, as it will give us more ‘liberty’ candidates (for example: in ’08, the west was one of the few spots that had counties voting for FRED! and Duncan Hunter even… i can see that as Palin territory)
battleoflepanto1571 on October 14, 2009 at 7:30 PM
How about…
McCain/Snowe – oh, yeah, McCain already ran
Snowe/Graham
Snowe/Crist
Snowe/RINO of your choice
CC
CapedConservative on October 14, 2009 at 7:30 PM
HOW COME SARAH DIDN’T END UP PARTNERING UP WITH LIZ CHENEY…
It’s quite simple: This is Sarah’s show; if she is to LEGITIMIZE her credentials with moderate and independents eventually, she cannot piggyback off anybody else. She has to stand on her own two feet and rise or fall on her own merits and actions.
technopeasant on October 14, 2009 at 7:31 PM
The above ia in the comments section at the WSJ. If that really happens it would definitely make some blood vessels pop as he suggests, very funny.
bluemarlin on October 14, 2009 at 7:31 PM
Don’t you think that if she runs, she’ll do so with her eyes open? She went through a trial by fire last year and she made it through. You honestly don’t think that she won’t be prepared to handle a long term onslaught given how she was treated during the campaign?
You underestimate her.
Again…you underestimate her and you are completely misreading what happened and why she left her governorship.
They tried to Alinsky her and she ruined their plans. Now she’s on the attack. That’s not the response of a quitter.
powerpro on October 14, 2009 at 7:31 PM
Where in the HELL do I sign up???
Ltlgeneral64 on October 14, 2009 at 7:38 PM
Good thing no one really cares what you think. Maybe you should start your own PAC and see how that goes for you and your chances of persuading public opinion. As the commenter at the WSJ mentioned, she types a note on FB and has 926,000 people reading it.
bluemarlin on October 14, 2009 at 7:38 PM
5 Myths about Sarah that we can now disabuse:
1) Sarah resigned as a full-time governor to become a full-time housewife and a full-time moose-hunter
2)Sarah is planning to go Hollywood, become the queen of the talk show circuit a la Oprah, or become a celebutard
3)Sarah is not really serious about national politics
4)Sarah does not understand about getting her ducks in a row and the importance of building a campaign infrastructure
5)Sarah is an idiot as caricatured by the MSM and she does not know the hell what she is doing
Please trolls at HA, please desist and stop bringing these lies and smears up again. They are not true-you know it and we know it.
technopeasant on October 14, 2009 at 7:38 PM
You are right battleoflepanto . Ohhh. A McClatchy Group Newspaper trashing conservatives? We’re shocked I tell you SHOCKED!!!
portlandon on October 14, 2009 at 7:48 PM
I with ya, but unfortunately, ridicule is all the Alinky-ites have in their arsenal.
John the Libertarian on October 14, 2009 at 7:49 PM
Wow, a little hostile there. Haha.
DanStark on October 14, 2009 at 7:52 PM
DanStark on October 14, 2009 at 7:22 PM
“…I SEE SIGNS IN HER RESIGNING AS GOVERNOR AS A CLEAR INDICATOR SHE WILL NOT SURVIVE THE PRIMARIES…”
If I were an English teacher, which I am not, I would bring your assertion to my students’ attention of one of the best examples of a “NON SEQUITUR” that I have ever seen.
DanStark, do you really believe that Sarah will not be a first-tier player if she runs in 2012 based on her charisma, her ability to raise boatloads of money and her hold on the base of the Republican party and the conservative movement and with that in mind do you think in 2 years that most people will not give a hoot whether Sarah resigned as governor in 2009, that they will be more preoccupied with the issues in 2011 and evaluating Sarah Palin based on how she performed in the 2010 midterms and during the primary season itself?
By the way only one person will survive the primaries, DanStark. The others will not survive the primaries. Romney did not lose in 2008 because he was only a one-term governor and Huckabee did not lose because of his performance in Arkansas. For Romney I think it was his lack of appeal to conservatives and the “Mormon issue”, and for Huckabee it was his religious unappeal and fiscal liberalism that turned off many secular or more prudent voters..
technopeasant on October 14, 2009 at 7:52 PM
Possibly, it has been a long day.
bluemarlin on October 14, 2009 at 7:53 PM
CC
Snowe and another guy from AZ – Flake
lonestar1 on October 14, 2009 at 7:57 PM
Go Cuda! I’m on board.
Philly on October 14, 2009 at 8:03 PM
Norwegian had it right:
Palin’s best asset is the calendar for the 2012 primaries.
Here you go:
AFter the early 4 (iowa, nh, sc, and nevada), you get a ‘small state election wave’, which include many in the west:
idaho
montana
ndakota
sdakota
nebraska
wyoming
new mexico
maine
w virginia
delaware
rhode island
vermont
i see her winning 7/8 of that first batch
battleoflepanto1571 on October 14, 2009 at 8:06 PM
That would be a powerful duo. The more I observe the current Republican leadership NOT doing what they need to do, the more I expect a few new conservatives to step up and lead. Right now, three of the best conservative women in America are Palin, Cheney and Bachman.
Red State State of Mind on October 14, 2009 at 8:08 PM
You don’t pay much attention to how elections work, and how people end up in the WH. Whether, you like it or not.
Moesart on October 14, 2009 at 8:09 PM
I believe, along with others, that Palin resigned because of the onslaught of criticism against her (which came in the form of ethics complaints). Because of this criticism, she was not able to maintain her commitment as being Governor. She resigned if not wholly, partially because of this criticism. When looking at a candidate and whether or not they’ll be able to “handle” a campaign and stay committed, I look at past experiences. Resigning as Governor over criticism TO ME is a clear indicator she will not survive the primaries, and will ultimately drop out.
Yet hell, disagree with me, whatever. Just offering my opinion and saying you shouldn’t get your hopes up.
DanStark on October 14, 2009 at 8:14 PM
AP… 2 Branches are bigger then 1 branch. this will be a One Two punch and will deliver huge crushing blows across the belly of the Libbybeast.
hawkman on October 14, 2009 at 8:25 PM
How? By disabling the AVS security on his ‘donation’ page.
That ONE feature allows ‘CC’ donations from anyone from anywhere.
Link #1 http://24ahead.com/blog/archives/008251.html
Link #2 http://obamashrugged.com/?p=64
Link #3 http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YzlmYjAxODY5OTgyZGQ5OTNhYWMzYzBiZmEwM2Q2OTE=
Link #4 http://therealrevo.com/blog/?p=2619
Imagine all that wonderful money pouring in from .. where?
Yes DrW, he did raise a ‘record’ amount of funds. But from who? And from where?
Perhaps YOU know the answer to those questions, eh?.
Enlighten us, DrW.
Oh, BTW, with the AVS turned off, it also possible to transfer funds with ‘gift cards’, as many as you can round up, no limit [since there's no address verification to cross-check with].
Pesky $2000 donation limit? No problem.
Yes, DrW, such ‘transparency’ is breath-taking, is it not?
[Hopefully Axeltuff gave you the right script for your witty come-back.]
CPT. Charles on October 14, 2009 at 8:26 PM
DanStark on October 14, 2008 at 8:14 PM
Didn’t Tiger Woods quit on the Stanford golf team by turning pro in the late summer of 1996?
If Sarah was a normal person DanStark I might agree, which might surprise you, but Sarah is a superstar and like Tiger Woods and IMG, Sarah will IMHO be able to transcend anything placed in her path by the MSM, assuming she brings on board a team of media experts who will help her beat back more examples of media malpractice.
Sarah is a front runner for 2012. Nowhere have I said would she win the primaries but I do contend it will be either Romney, Huckabee or Palin going up against the Messiah, and frankly I love Palin’s odds on prevailing under those circumstances because of her rock-solid support of her conservative base that will never, let me repeat never, desert or abandon her unless she does not run, which seems less unlikely every day including the subject of this thread.
technopeasant on October 14, 2009 at 8:30 PM
Stand Up For Our Nation?? What kind of name is that?
S.U.F.O.N
Stand Tall For United states
S.T.F.U.
Jeff from WI on October 14, 2009 at 8:32 PM
Yeah, I do.
She didn’t land here from Mars, you know. She’s been in public life for 16 years. She’s debated before, and pretty successfully.
NoLeftTurn on October 14, 2009 at 8:32 PM
What about calling it the:
United Command for Law and Enforcement?
Jeff from WI on October 14, 2009 at 8:33 PM
Opps.. United Network Command for Law and Enforcement…LOL
Jeff from WI on October 14, 2009 at 8:34 PM
Technological Hierarchy for the Removal of Undesirables and the Subjugation of Humanity?
Jeff from WI on October 14, 2009 at 8:36 PM
Man, you got the SLOW part right!
If you don’t know I am talking about the $40 billion natural gas pipeline, then go away, you are too stupid to be part of this conversation.
And NO, it ain’t built yet! It is scheduled to be operational in 2019. (or about halfway through her second term as President!)
Ohhh, tough guy.
You idiot, only a moron doesn’t understand why Sarah stepped down, and WHO was directly responsible.
If you left wing morons seriously want to play the “quitter” card, we all have enough stuff that links the whole thing to Obama, Pete Rouse, and others just waiting.
Trust me, it will come out every time.
Also trust me, we have plenty of the stuff on who REALLY wrote Obama’s book ready to go when you idiots start on her book too.
Be prepared to be out-Alinsky’ed every step of the way!
gary4205 on October 14, 2009 at 8:36 PM
Maybe she’s not in it just for the money? Maybe it’s just a pleasant side effect and she really wants to, you know, serve her country?
Novel idea, I know.
NoLeftTurn on October 14, 2009 at 8:37 PM
I believe she may have resigned as a result of criticism as well, but not because she could not handle it. I believe she realized that she had just brought a knife to a gunfight and simply needed to retool. I suspect that when the starting gate opens, we are going to see a Sarah Palin who is wiser, harder and more polished than when she was teamed with a no-chance partner. Heat and pressure make diamonds, to coin a really trite phrase.
Never…never…underestimate a woman scorned; Hell hath no fury, and all that as well.
B.A.Freeman on October 14, 2009 at 8:39 PM
DanStark on October 14, 2009 at 6:38 PM
That’s like asking if Tiger Woods could stand up to the rigor of playing 91 holes in the US Open with a broken leg.
DanStark, Sarah is a superstar. You are talking about her ability to perform and execute. Not a doubt in my mind whatsover. Done deal! That is what superstars are built for and that is their modus operandi.
Sarah is not some genteel Southern belle who has never been out in the sun before. Sarah has been hardened by the cold winters of the north and her many trips aboard the family fishing boat being buffeted around by rolling seas and constant crosswinds and headwinds.
technopeasant on October 14, 2009 at 8:43 PM
Sarah posted happy Birthday wishes on facebook to Margaret thatcher and calls her a role model. Naysayers tell me she’s not runnin.
IMHO she feels she and McDumb let the country down and she figures not to let the country she loves go to the Fascists.
She got into politics to make a difference and she will.
Let me know when Facebook hits 1 million and I’m in for $20.00 my ten and ten for someone who can’t afford it in Obamanomic times.
dhunter on October 14, 2009 at 8:52 PM
technopeasant on October 14, 2009 at 8:43 PM
Did you know commercial fishing especially of the deep sea variety is one of the most dangerous professions in the world.
Sarah’s solid, not a squish, not an elite, a selfmade person, not to be taken down by pretty boys, with pretty degrees, from pretty schools, and big family money.
Lets Roll!
dhunter on October 14, 2009 at 8:55 PM
Moesart on October 14, 2009 at 6:41 PM
“…CAN CLEAN UP LIKE OPRAH FOR YEARS TO COME…”
Why doesn’t Tiger Woods as the first billionaire sportsman quit playing golf and become a full-time golf course designer, why doesn’t Derek Jeter quit playing for the Yankees to become a part-time hitting instructor and full-time playboy, why doesn’t Peyton Manning quit and become a color commentator on ESPN?
Moesart, some people are performers extraordinaire. That is what they do. For Woods, it is playing golf, for Jeter it is hitting consistently over .300, for Peyton Manning it is throwing TD passes and for Sarah Palin it is going on the stump giving political campaign speeches and rallying the troops.
Money and fame mean very little to these people. They live primarily for performance, achievement and victory.
Sarah is definitely of that ilk, and that is why the Dems and the RINO’s are scared sh*tless now.
technopeasant on October 14, 2009 at 8:57 PM
My sons wrestling team motto “steel sharpens steel”
Sarahs got it McCain didn’t!
dhunter on October 14, 2009 at 8:58 PM
You just don’t understand this woman. She is like no other woman. She was raised in the last frontier. She was raised with a woodstove for heat and hunted in the wilderness for dinner “we eat therefore we hunt.” She has the blood and sweat of the earth running through her veins. Sarah has always been about making things better.
It has always been about the people, Alaska, and now the Nation.
oldyeller on October 14, 2009 at 9:03 PM
How defeatist.
Feel free to go away and sulk now and let the rest of us do the heavy lifting for ya.
powerpro on October 14, 2009 at 9:05 PM
OK dummy, since you OBVIOUSLY have no idea about what was going on up in Alaska, let me clue you in.
Starting with “Troopergate” Barack Obama took a direct involvement in attacking Sarah.
Obama had his campaign chief-of-staff (now White House adviser) Pete Rouse, a native Alaskan, contact Senator Kim Elton to start a jihad against her.
In fact, Obama gave Elton a make work job in the Interior Department for a “job well done” smearing Sarah.
But the real damage was done when Rouse, and a joker named Phil Monger rounded up all of the dim-wit bloggers like Jeanne Devon and Shannyn Moore, who both hate blog over at HuffPo.
This filth in turn rounded up a bunch of loons to file “ethics complaints” against Sarah.
There was one crazy woman already, but the rest were all part of Obama’s Alaska Mafia (c)
http://thespeechatimeforchoosing.wordpress.com/2009/08/04/barack-obama%E2%80%99s-alaska-mafia-is-on-the-run-and-angry-the-spotlight-is-on-them/
Now here is the part you need to pay attention to:
Not only were these idiots costing Palin personally, (about a half a million $$$) this hatefulness from Obama’s Mafia was costing the Alaskan taxpayers millions of dollars.
The Mafia was never going to stop as long as she was in office. In fact, they were escalating. We figured this would have cost the Alaska taxpayer as much as $10 million had she stayed in office her full term.
This is a woman who slashed her office’s budget by over a million dollars. She sold the jet, fired the executive chef, and refused a state car, and a driver, preferring to drive herself to work in her own car!
The fact that Obama’s thugs were STEALING millions of dollars from the Alaska tax payer was weighing very heavy on her. It was a HUGE reason why she “quit.”
The typical worthless politician would have held on to power, wouldn’t have cared what it cost the taxpayers. Sarah Palin isn’t built that way.
Now STFU!
gary4205 on October 14, 2009 at 9:06 PM
Needed some good news today.
huckleberryfriend on October 14, 2009 at 9:07 PM
Moesart on October 14, 2009 at 8:09 PM
The 2001 NE Patriots according the sports pundits had no business winning the Super Bowl, let alone being in it.
This is the mentality your exhibit. Sarah is a force of nature and what don’t you understand about the word transcendence. The ordinary rules or parameters don’t apply when it comes to Sarah Palin as they did not apply to Reagan either.
technopeasant on October 14, 2009 at 9:10 PM
It wasn’t due to criticism.
She’s been criticized endlessly for a year now.
It was the financial cost to her and her family…to her state…the time lost and wasted due to responding to the frivolous complaints…and her agenda which was stalled since she was out of commission.
This was a wholly unique scenario based on Alaska’s laws regarding how she could and could not respond to these leftist hacks and had absolutely nothing to do with her resolve or her will to fight back…well, other than to show that she chose not to give in to them and be their punching bag, that is.
Now she’s free to fight, she’s not trapped by the constraints of her title…her agenda will flourish thanks to Parnell who the media don’t care about stalling, and she can…and is, btw, taking the fight to the enemy.
Your characterization of her as caving to the pressures of being criticized is a complete misread of what happened to her and how she chose to fight back.
powerpro on October 14, 2009 at 9:11 PM
RETIRE THE THREAD.
NOTHING can top this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Slamdown!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
battleoflepanto1571 on October 14, 2009 at 9:13 PM
What do you mean by a ‘liberty’ candidate?
Red State State of Mind on October 14, 2009 at 9:14 PM
powerpro on October 14, 2009 at 9:11 PM
As I have often done I have compared Sarah Palin’s plight to a soldier in WWI pinned down in a foxhole by enemy volleys and constant gunfire knowing that if the soldier remained there he would eventually be overwhelmed and killed.
The only alternative when the enemy was not looking or it got dark was to crawl out of the foxhole to safety and move to a safe location which he could use to prepare for the next engagement.
In this war-time scenario there is no hint that the solider went over the hill AWOL. And in Sarah’s case there is none either. As she commented in her first resignation speech on July 3rd, “I am taking to the high ground so I can advance in another direction.”
technopeasant on October 14, 2009 at 9:20 PM
Sarah the hunted became Sarah the hunter!
The prey became the predator a game she understands well!
With a single Facebook post (Death Panels) she may have saved us from Obamacare, she certainly slowed the momentem when it was all set to be rammed before the Aug. recess.
More damage with a facebook post than the whole RNC!
Presidential!
dhunter on October 14, 2009 at 9:24 PM
There’s one other little detail you people are forgetting…PALIN LEFT ALASKA A GIFT…SOVEREIGNTY UNDER THE 10TH AMENDMENT!
BobAnthony on October 14, 2009 at 9:24 PM
not quite libertarian, but more in that vein.
personal freedom, economic freedom, less govt regulations
basically, the antithesis of olympia snowe’s maine republican party
battleoflepanto1571 on October 14, 2009 at 9:24 PM
Uh, okay? You can’t fight with hyperbole.
Oh snap, not the slamedown.
…also side note, I have a feeling technopeasant is an imposter. Just giving you Palinites a heads up. Because I’m a nice guy (who just happens to be a RINO Hopechangey loving pinko).
DanStark on October 14, 2009 at 9:30 PM
I second that!
farright on October 14, 2009 at 9:37 PM
So I am not an impostor, for feeling passionately about Sarah Palin, for believing that she is the only GOP candidate with any chance to take down Obama in 2012.
For that I will never apologize. Go over to conservatives4palin if you doubt my sincerity.
technopeasant on October 14, 2009 at 9:41 PM
Either you’re an imposter or I’m trying to divide the Palinites. Take a pick.
DanStark on October 14, 2009 at 9:45 PM
DanStark, You are not dividing anybody. Sarah supporters can’t be divided.
oldyeller on October 14, 2009 at 9:51 PM
Great synopsis!
And I’ll add this – Palin did the honorable thing by resigning. As a military guy – I’ve seen Officers resign their commands when they could no longer be effective in their positions due to no fault of their own. I saw one CO resign when he got a very serious harassment charge thrown on him. He knew it would take a long time to fight it – and he knew that while he was fighting it he couldn’t effectively lead his unit.
He beat the charge hands down and the soldier filing it eventually was caught lying about the whole affair. It’s fine though – that officer went on to become a flag officer. He was an honest guy and completely willing to step down for the good of the unit.
Same thing with Sarah. Alaskans were getting cheated by a small minority of anklebiters and Sarah fixed the problem by putting her LT in charge and then taking the fight right to the idiots.
Nuff said.
HondaV65 on October 14, 2009 at 9:53 PM
Yep. Me too.
I’ve got almost all investments out of the dollar and will be running a pyramid scheme and channeling all my Madoff funds to the Cuda throughout all of my family and friends.
Then I declare bankruptcy and gradually build my credit rating back during her two terms as POTUS.
:)
Sapwolf on October 14, 2009 at 9:58 PM
Why doesn’t Tiger Woods as the first billionaire sportsman quit playing golf and become a full-time golf course designer, why doesn’t Derek Jeter quit playing for the Yankees to become a part-time hitting instructor and full-time playboy, why doesn’t Peyton Manning quit and become a color commentator on ESPN?
Moesart, some people are performers extraordinaire. That is what they do. For Woods, it is playing golf, for Jeter it is hitting consistently over .300, for Peyton Manning it is throwing TD passes and for Sarah Palin it is going on the stump giving political campaign speeches and rallying the troops.
Money and fame mean very little to these people. They live primarily for performance, achievement and victory.
Sarah is definitely of that ilk, and that is why the Dems and the RINO’s are scared sh*tless now.
technopeasant on October 14, 2009 at 8:57 PM
Damn it man, that says it all!
Couldn’t have said it better!
gary4205 on October 14, 2009 at 10:01 PM
Thank you Gary for the TRUTH.
Sapwolf on October 14, 2009 at 10:02 PM
Stupid Blockquotes! That’s OK, THIS bears repeating:
gary4205 on October 14, 2009 at 10:03 PM
A woman of action.
The Triumvirate could learn alot from this woman.
True_King on October 14, 2009 at 10:04 PM
Oh you noticed that too. I was going over it on a nice website about six months ago and concluded that Sarah will have tremendous momentum after sweepting those early western states.
If Iowa is a caucus state, she will win easy as her supporters will eat glass to do there what Obama did to beat Hillary. Granted Obama still needed help from other candidates to mix it up.
Sapwolf on October 14, 2009 at 10:05 PM
What a bunch of lame-a$$ trolls on this thread.
Hey DrW, I’m waiting for enlightenment on Teh One’s money magnet magic.
Or don’t you want to play anymore?
CPT. Charles on October 14, 2009 at 10:08 PM
gary4205 on October 14, 2009 at 10:01 PM
Do you think I am an imposter?
technopeasant on October 14, 2009 at 10:09 PM
Canadian for Palin 2012
royzer on October 14, 2009 at 10:15 PM
Right on!
That’s what happened. And, she’s running for POTUS to stop the Statists from destroying our country and the Constitution.
Sapwolf on October 14, 2009 at 10:21 PM
Seems fairly obvious if you’ve looked into Liz’s site. Hers is almost solely focussed on national security. I’m guessin’ Sarah’s is going to cover a wider range. I’m glad to have em both
miConsevative on October 14, 2009 at 10:30 PM
She won the Alaskan gubernortorial debates, against more seasoned opponents. They left the debates saying nothing but good things about her ability to connect, and think on their feet.
She also did incredibly well against Biden, who has been at it since she was in 3rd grade.
Why do you thinks she won’t handle debating well?
massrighty on October 14, 2009 at 10:36 PM
Every Sarah Palin thread seems to include the “she’s a quitter” meme; it’s as if those who oppose her won’t let go of her resignation, no matter how much evidence they see that she is;
1. Fully engaged in the process
2. Successfully preparing to be either:
massrighty on October 14, 2009 at 10:45 PM
Every Sarah Palin thread seems to include the “she’s a quitter” meme; it’s as if those who oppose her won’t let go of her resignation, no matter how much evidence they see that she is;
1. Fully engaged in the process
2. Successfully preparing to be either:
A. A defining player in the process, OR
B. A serious, credible candidate.
I had posted this, right after her resignation:
First, remember that in the past, the path from sitting Governor to President was a well-established path. No one minded if a governor, (whether new in the job or not,) ran in the primaries, and then again in the general election. Sarah Palin’s political opponents changed this pattern, with their relentless trumped-up ethics charges against her. Each time she attempted to enter the national conversation, they pounced, leaving her having to expend both effort and money to defend against these baseless charges. So, for her, there would not be a smooth path from where she was to the Presidency.
Now, she could have finished her term. She could, in theory, then enter the race. But, she would have been handicapped in two ways; other candidates, unburdened with the inability to make an appearance without being charged with an ethic violation, would necessarily have something of a head start. And, lacking what might be called full access to the national microphone, the remainder of the news about her would have been the very kind of attacks we’ve seen to date. In sum, the only thing she would have been able to do, that would have any kind of national resonance, would have been to defend, and defend, and defend.
This resignation, should she decide to put her hat into the ring, frees her from these limitations. And, don’t discount the shrewdness of her stated reason. While some have said that her premise (that of putting Alaska first) will haunt her in the up-coming primary fights and debates, consider this; she will not have to change her answer as time goes on, it’s a simple response, and she’ll have lots of chances to repeat it in the months to come. As the primaries approach, it will take on the appearance of a fully settled issue.
Governor Palin has already proven to be an energetic speaker, a formidable fundraiser, and possessing considerable political skills.
This decision lets her concentrate on her strengths, build those areas that some perceive as weaknesses, and focus fully on whatever political path she decides is in her future. Those who dismiss her ignore her past history and her capabilities.
massrighty on October 14, 2009 at 10:48 PM
Don’t waste your time asking for them to back up their aspersions. Whenever you request actual evidence, or a well-reasoned argument, you won’t get it from the trolls.
NoLeftTurn on October 14, 2009 at 10:49 PM
massrighty on October 14, 2009 at 10:36 PM
When rational people on our side buy into to the “dumb hick” narrative even by 1% that is when you know the disinformation and propaganda spread by the MSM has unfortunately worked.
What you say is completely accurate. And rationally how could anybody in any state be elected governor without being a skilled debater and having a certain amount of intelligence to convey and put over her specific points?
These folks that imply Palin is not intellectually qualified: were they on vacation during the 60 day campaign? Did they not catch Palin’s convention speech, her countless number of outstanding campaign speeches and her debate against Biden?
Does anybody on our side really believe that Sarah did not write her book or that that ideas in the book are not hers?
I can accept Obamatrons being that stupid-that is their modus operandi. But our side-c’mon folks, let’s get serious. Sarah Palin is no dummy.
technopeasant on October 14, 2009 at 10:50 PM
You’re right.
Those who deny her intelligence, or her skills, do so from the kind of willfull blindness that sees, but will not see, the truth.
massrighty on October 14, 2009 at 11:01 PM
NO. You seem to be a deep thinker and many even see all the angles in the “game” called politics.
Clyde5445 on October 14, 2009 at 11:09 PM
More than just winning Governor, the whole narrative of getting there is key. Interested PTA Mom to city council, to state service to resignation (once before) over corruption to having that corruption squashed to fighting other corruptocrats in her party to Governor, all without a political dynasty of her own but kicking some dynasty butt along the way. People talking face to face with me have a problem answering that narrative.
bluemarlin on October 14, 2009 at 11:09 PM
oops I forgot mayor in there as well
bluemarlin on October 14, 2009 at 11:10 PM
Only one slow here is you. Who is going to build this mysterious pipeline? How are they going to pay for it? You people are unbelievable, all your talk about ethics complaints causing her to quit are delusional. Let me spell it out for you, one of the reasons she quit was because she wanted to distance herself from this pipeline fiasco, good grief even she knows it ain’t going to happen.
lowandslow on October 14, 2009 at 11:55 PM
That includes putting together the largest construction project in North American history.
gary4205 on October 14, 2009 at 6:51 PM
This point needs to emphasized again and again, and then again. And let’s not leave out that it is 100% private enterprise financing – the govt. (meaning our tax dollars) aren’t involved AT ALL.
Palin runs rings around most private enterprise businesspersons with this accomplishments, let alone the lame jr. high girl sitting in the Oval Office.
tigerlily on October 15, 2009 at 12:14 AM
Palin has the ability to organize her thoughts and express them with a clarity possessed by few politicans, and none of the top of the American scene today.
Jim Anderson
Jim Anderson on October 15, 2009 at 12:24 AM
What point? The point that any chance of a natural gas pipeline in the near future was ruined because of her policies?
lowandslow on October 15, 2009 at 12:32 AM
Been over at the Rush Limbaugh thread got me thinking: could all of these false allegations of Rush be orchestrated by the Obama war room as a test run to see how it will play in America and how much blowback or pushback there will be to the false allegations in order to later adopt the same strategy, albeit fine-tuned, against Sarah Palin making false racial allegations against her?
I would put nothing past Obama and his war room.
technopeasant on October 15, 2009 at 12:32 AM
For those who think that Sarah can’t debate plese go to You Tube and watch Palin the 2006 Gubernatorial primary debates:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnFkyWz13BQ
technopeasant on October 15, 2009 at 1:21 AM
Below is a posting at sheetanchor.org shortly after Palin’s resignation as Governor.
Governor Sarah Palin recently announced that she would not seek another term in office, and subsequently tendered her resignation, effective in approximately two weeks. Since this past Friday, speculation continues about the underlying reasons for her decision. Such speculation has ranged from concern for the well-being of her family, to accumulating legal debt, to stress caused by efforts to disparage and demean her, and her family’s character. All of these possibilities are credible within the context of modern day political rationale. Yet, none of these motives reflect the truth; nor are they relevant to Governor Palin, for one preeminent reason, to wit: Governor Palin is not a politician, but rather a citizen who happens to hold the title and duties concomitant with being her state’s chief executive. Unconventionally, Governor Palin is not self-identified or defined by the office she holds, but defined solely on the basis of her values and the content of her character; which is grounded in her demonstrable conviction of, and commitment to, Christian principles – an increasingly rare attribute, particularly among politicians. Whether anyone believes it or not, Governor Palin is honest and seeks to live in accordance with her convictions – regardless of any political consequence. As she said recently, in reference to her political future, “If I die, I die. So be it.” (Associated Press)
Sarah, as she prefers to be called, is a “common” woman. She is not motivated by political ambition, contrary to conventional wisdom. She strives to do that which is morally right in every aspect of life, and being Governor, albeit grand in responsibility and stature, is one aspect of her life, rather than life itself. Sarah has a self-imposed moral obligation to place the interests of her fellow citizens in Alaska, above what so many would consider her self-interests, generally defined by the political class as the need to advance one’s career in politics. The relevant factor overlooked in this perspective, is that Sarah, from her standpoint, has no “political career,” but has sought to serve in public office only to promote the public good – seemingly an almost non-existent motive in today’s political system.
Governor Palin fully explained her rationale for the decision to resign. Anyone listening to her words should have little difficulty understanding her perspective. The people of Alaska are wrongfully suffering operationally and monetarily, as a result of the continual stream of ethics charges levied against their Governor. The Governor stated that 80% of her time, and that of many staff members, is now allocated to research necessary to answer such charges, and further that $2 million dollars of state taxpayer money has been expended thus far to meet the State’s obligation to defend the Governor. From Sarah’s standpoint, this is not only subverting Alaska’s interests, but diverting valuable time and money which would otherwise be used to pay teachers, provide assistance to Alaska residents, and repair infrastructure. Thus far, 15 ethics complaints have been lodged against Governor Palin. She has been completely exonerated. Yet, given the history of these complaints, and the apparent political motives underlying them, there is a reasonable expectation that they will continue as long as the Governor remains in office, an expensive probability contrary to the interests of Alaska citizens. While those of, and in support of the political class, may not find such an explanation plausible from their vantage point, it does not in any way alter its veracity. Yet, if her words are questioned, one may compare them with her actions in concert with the resignation.
Sarah, rather than to remain in office absent sufficient legislative support for any new initiatives, decided it would be best to depart at this time, while by virtue of transferring power to the current Lieutenant Governor who shares her policy positions, she has the ability to influence the public policy she believes is in the best long-term interests of her fellow citizens. The new Governor, who will serve the remaining 16 months of Governor Palin’s term, will gain the benefits of incumbency; and assuming he governs wisely, may well earn the respect, trust, and votes of the electorate as he seeks his own term. This act of Governor Palin affirms that she seeks to guard and promote the interests of Alaska citizens, before any self-serving political interests, or self-indulgent personal interests, at the citizens’ expense. In effect, Governor Palin decided, consistent with her moral convictions, that she would not stay in the Governor’s chair, for one day longer than she reasonably believed would be in the citizens’ best interests. She would not, as many politicians irresponsibly and unjustly do, use the gubernatorial office and title for purposes of self-aggrandizement. Sarah Palin, a woman of moral character, to the best of her ability, could not violate her Christ born convictions, any more than Abraham Lincoln could violate his. She has demonstrated her commitment to morality prior to this occasion by refusing to abort her new Down-stricken son. It is sad and tragic in today’s America, which reeks of perceived and actual political corruption, that the first instinct is to expect dishonesty, self-promotion, scandal, or personal instability, or some combination thereof, as the explanation for decisions of anyone in elected office. In Sarah’s case, none of these apply, and her actions have a just and reasonable basis, which she articulated in plain language.
The popular question now is what does the future hold for Sarah Palin? Anyone other than the Governor can only speculate. Notwithstanding, there is one assurance – Sarah Palin will continue to abide by her moral sense of right and wrong. Many wonder whether she will seek the presidency in 2012. Governor Palin has already answered this question, in stating that if the door is open she would not want to miss it. The operative word is “if!” She will only seek higher office if she has a conviction that it is the right course of action, not for herself, but for her fellow citizens, and that will be based on her priority framework, namely and in this order, God, family, and country. She abides by one characterization of leadership; not “self-serving,” but rather “servant” leadership – intuitively an attribute and perspective most American’s would prefer all politicians personified. Could she win? A few years ago not many believed that a young former community organizer, and two-term state senator, who spent most of his short two years in the United States Senate running a campaign, would become President of the United States.
SheetAnchor on October 15, 2009 at 1:27 AM
SheetAnchor on October 15, 2009 at 1:27 AM
“if the door is open she would not want to miss it”
In secular terms you have to strike while the iron is hot.
In success or PMA (positive mental attitude) books it is designated by when preparation meets opportunity.
In surfing it’s called riding the wave.
technopeasant on October 15, 2009 at 1:34 AM
Right you are in all of your postings, Techno. Sarah is indeed an American leader.
SheetAnchor on October 15, 2009 at 1:46 AM
This is a good move for Sarah. It’s kinda like when Belinda Carlisle broke away from the Go-Go’s and started doing her own thing.
Mr. Wednesday Night on October 15, 2009 at 2:04 AM
I like the line from Field of Dreams, if we build it, they will come. That one line is really a tribute to American ingenuity and creativity, the faith that human endeavor will be rewarded and the hope of final victory.
In the same vein, once Sarah begins to build her “big tent” and “stands up for the nation” they will come. You betcha!
technopeasant on October 15, 2009 at 2:13 AM
This point needs to emphasized again and again, and then again. And let’s not leave out that it is 100% private enterprise financing – the govt. (meaning our tax dollars) aren’t involved AT ALL.
Palin runs rings around most private enterprise businesspersons with this accomplishments, let alone the lame jr. high girl sitting in the Oval Office.
tigerlily on October 15, 2009 at 12:14 AM
What point? The point that any chance of a natural gas pipeline in the near future was ruined because of her policies?
lowandslow on October 15, 2009 at 12:32 AM
Specifics and facts are needed to back up your assertion.
tigerlily on October 15, 2009 at 2:14 AM
Many Thanks to all for the great pro-Palin posters here tonight. Great things ahead, with the help of God and our hard work and a little bit of courage.
tigerlily on October 15, 2009 at 2:17 AM
Mr. Wednesday Night on October 15, 2009 at 2:04 AM
You may be too young to remember this but one of the most famous singers in the 20c was accused of “quitting” in late 1942. His name was Frank Sinatra and he left the Tommy Dorsey band as a band singer to go solo.
I don’t think his career suffered by wanting to “advance in a different direction” by going solo.
Superstars have to be judged differently than normal folks.
technopeasant on October 15, 2009 at 2:23 AM
Technopeasant, I would be interested in your assessment of this prospective ticket: Palin/J.C. Watts ?
Watts, as I am sure you are aware, was in Congress 8 years, and either head of the Republican Caucus or the Majority Whip during his latter years. He currently runs a successful strategic planning firm, and is of course a news commentator on the Fox News channel, and a columnist as well. There has been some speculation that he is considering a run at the Governor’s chair in Oklahoma.
It seems that the Republican party needs to stop ceding the black vote to the Democratic party. Watts is astute on policy, and would be able to attack President Obama on policy without any reservation. Thus, he could fulfill the traditional role of the VP candidate. In addition, Watts may well add an additional element of class, charm, and electricity, and attract a portion of the black electorate in key states in the presidential race. Suppose Palin/Watts attracted just 10% of the black vote? It might make a difference in key states.
Watts, because of his stature, and honorable reputation can campaign effectively among any American community, but may enjoy higher than usual credibility for a Republican politician among American black voters. In addition, the liberal media may be hesistant about attacking Watts out of fear of a backlash from the most loyal part of the liberal base – black voters. Please understand that I am not intending to advocate a divisive campaign strategy, but am only recognizing the current political realities, that blacks voted for President Obama at the 97% level. The most recent polling I have seen shows that President Obama’s support among Americans who are black is now at 73%. Is there an opportunity present if Republicans are astute enough to see and aggressively pursue it?
SheetAnchor on October 15, 2009 at 2:34 AM
LOL….Not even!
I simply forgot to put the “blockquote” around your second quote!!
I was givin’ you a complement on a well written dissertation.
Notice below that I re-posted WITH your second quote done properly.
My only problem with you is you say things a lot more eloquently than I do! :-)
gary4205 on October 15, 2009 at 2:43 AM
STAND UP FOR OUR NATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
STAND UP FOR OUR NATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That’s my group. I finally found the name of my group.
I’m standing up for my nation … AMERICA.
America is all I’ve got.
Sarah Palin … here I come.
TheAlamos on October 15, 2009 at 2:48 AM
As I said earlier, you got the SLOW part down pat. Do you ever RESEARCH things, or do you just say what your handlers at Axelturfer’s International (c) scripts tell you to say?
Here’s who and how. But first some history.
Alaskans had wanted this pipeline for 30 plus years. EVERY Governor promised it. It was as reliable of a campaign promise as Miss America contestants saying they were for “world peace”!
Sarah made the same promise. BUT, unlike the rest, she actually had an idea.
Instead of the
corruptincredibly corrupt “good old boy network” of state government and Big Oil, Sarah went a different way.Sarah negotiated an international deal with TransCanada, the world’s largest pipeline builder and Exxon-Mobil, the world’s largest oil and natural gas company.
Her way sees most of this deal being paid for with PRIVATE MONEY, not taxpayer dollars. It was the ONLY way a deal this big was ever going to get done.
Natural gas is our future, not bullshit like ethanol.
The big three have building cars, trucks and buses that run on compressed natural gas (CNG)for decades. And now that cars have sophisticated engine management, and EFI, CNG is THE perfect fuel.
CNG is the cleanest burning fuel there is. There is so little carbon that the engine oil barely turns color after 1000′s of miles of driving. Engine life is extended.
Also, unlike other BS (unicorn and rainbows)fuels, you can run CNG in diesel engines, and turn them into almost zero emissions vehicles, and lose no power. Think 18 wheelers. You can’t run 18 wheelers on friggin batteries.
Even better, now that more and more car makers are starting to build direct injection engines, gasoline burners that inject fuel directly into the cylinders under high pressure, like a diesel, CNG makes even MORE sense!
I think Alaska has somewhere between two and four TRILLION cubic feet of clean (and recoverable) natural gas.
As always, Sarah is running ahead of the pack, not behind.
Now, be gone with you until you complete your troll training!
gary4205 on October 15, 2009 at 3:06 AM
You know what I love about those clips from the 2006 debate? She accomplished every last thing she said she would, and in just 2 1/2 years to boot.
She is so going to be president. :o)
NoLeftTurn on October 15, 2009 at 3:15 AM
SheetAnchor on October 15 at 2:34 AM
I know how venerated Bush Sr. is in Republican circles but it was during his hand at the wheel that Reagan conservatism was abandoned. He should take a lot more heat than he does, and way more than his son does.
What am I getting at? I would hate to see Sarah have to pick a RINO as VP to unify the party knowing that 8 years later we are going to get another elitist who will revert back to RINOville.
I do think however she would have to pick someone who knew his/her way around Washington. Thus I would not rule out a woman but I would rule out Romney, Huckabee and Pawlenty.
I think she needs somebody with either Congressional experience, state department credentials. a military person or someone who is a great public speaker and go-getter.
I wish Fred Thompson was at least 10 years younger. He would be ideal. But since hes is not I will move on.
Watts did serve in Congress but he has been gone a long time. I think Sarah needs someone who knows the lay of the land in Washington, who perhaps could build a bridge to Congress but not be a RINO filled with white guilt. By the way that is my #1 qualification for her VP: he or she must not have an ounce of white guilt; if he/she does it is a non-starter.
Who does that leave? Here are 10 names to consider but not in order of preference or qualifications:
1)Mike Pence
2)Liz Cheney
3)Marco Rubio (if he gets elected)
4)Colin Powell(dump him after the first term)in favor of Rubio
5)Jim Demint
6)Roger Goodell, commissioner of the NFL
7)Dick Cheney (first term) then Liz Cheney
8)Steve Forbes
9)General Petraeus
10)Jason Lewis, talk show host
technopeasant on October 15, 2009 at 4:07 AM
Techno, I don’t want Colin Powell anywhere near the GOP ticket. Remember, he came out and endorsed Obama at a pivotal point to do the most damage to McCain. In addition, this man is a RINO fraud. Deep in his heart, he is a liberal and always seems to vote for liberals when it matters.
I actually finally signed up for facebook today, JUST to be part of the million supporter march for sarah palin. Can you imagine how powerful her organizations or PAC would be if each of her supporters gave $10 a month in contributions? Zowie, she would be well armed to take down this fraud in the White House in 2012.
karenhasfreedom on October 15, 2009 at 4:44 AM
SARAH PALIN IS THE INEVITABLE NOMINEE.
I THINK THE MAIN ISSUE NOW IS THIS:
WHO WILL BE SARAH’S RUNNING MATE???
I prefer Petraeus or Liz Cheney.
In 2013, I want Sarah Palin to appoint Ron Paul as Fed Fiscalizer Czar. Let Ron Paul be given the power to prove his accusations. Let the Fed defend itself.
TheAlamos on October 15, 2009 at 5:16 AM
Petraeus, Cheney or JC Watts.
TheAlamos on October 15, 2009 at 5:20 AM
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