Irresponsible rumor of the day: Khamenei in a coma, or maybe even dead

posted at 7:45 pm on October 14, 2009 by Allahpundit

We’ve been burned before so I was going to ignore it, but now Stephanopoulos has picked it up. Good enough for ABC, good enough for Hot Air!

Michael Ledeen says he’s in a coma, the Antimullah site says he’s dead and that it’ll be announced tomorrow morning. Let’s get a jump on it, in the very unlikely event that it’s true.

His condition had already seriously deteriorated over the last months, aggravated by his nervous condition due to [1] his inability to solve the problems created by his manipulation of the election results and the refusal of [a large part of] the population to accept this, plus [2] his loss of religious authority by means of the repeated condemnations of events by senior clerics.

Reportedly the principal aims of Khamenei of the last couple of weeks, if not months, were to ensure [1] a positive reputation as his legacy and [2] the physical survival of his family members and their wealth, reportedly now largely in Syria and in Turkey (remember the truck convoy of $8.5 billion in cash and gold that was seized by the Turks?).

Outlook is uncertain but speculation is – considering that he is in coma since more than 24 hours – that he may not come out of his coma and/or that he may die very soon.

Before the summer uprising, the odds-on choice to succeed him was Rafsanjani, the “pragmatist” head of the Assembly of Experts (a.k.a. Shiite College of Cardinals) that’s charged with electing a new supreme leader. But Rafsanjani was sympathetic to the protesters in June, so presumably the Revolutionary Guard — the real source of power in Iran — won’t let him come to the throne. So, then … who? One possibility is the Ayatollah Mesbah Yazdi, Ahmadinejad’s own personal “spiritual advisor” and a jihadist so hardcore that his top disciples have already come out publicly in favor of Iranian nuclear weapons. If he’s the pick, it’s panic time. Another possibility is that the Guard will simply finish the process started this summer and stage a full-blown military coup, installing Ahmadinejad or Jafari as dictator and taking things from there. The tricky part, obviously, would be the risk of alienating religious Iranians by doing away with clerical rule, which is why the third possibility is the likeliest — namely, finding a puppet from among the clerical ranks who can be sold to the west as a “pragmatist” or “reformist” while letting the Guard control things behind the scenes. That’s basically the scam they’re running now, although an infusion of fresh blood at the top would give them new possibilities for jerking the U.S. around with promises that the next supreme leader is someone “we can do business with.”

The odds are low but the stakes are high, so here’s your thread to speculate. Fire away.

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No reason to get happy. There’s more than enough child molesters in the wings that can replace this one.

Shambhala on October 14, 2009 at 7:48 PM

Let’s hope this goat sodomizer becomes worm food soon.

And finds out soon how much Allah really hates him.

What lunatic mullah is on deck?

NoDonkey on October 14, 2009 at 7:48 PM

I hope Ace steals AP’s work again, as any comment I want to provide is totally inappropriate for this fine site…

phreshone on October 14, 2009 at 7:49 PM

Terrorists don’t die willingly.

Key West Reader on October 14, 2009 at 7:49 PM

first

ThackerAgency on October 14, 2009 at 7:49 PM

Good enough for ABC, good enough for Hot Air!

That’s a terrible way to do business.

BadgerHawk on October 14, 2009 at 7:49 PM

first

ThackerAgency on October 14, 2009 at 7:49 PM

Awwww, so close.

BadgerHawk on October 14, 2009 at 7:50 PM

That’s a terrible way to do business.

BadgerHawk on October 14, 2009 at 7:49 PM

That’s a keeper

Key West Reader on October 14, 2009 at 7:50 PM

Good enough for ABC, good enough for Hot Air!

Charlie Gibson sez: “leave that story to the cables”

battleoflepanto1571 on October 14, 2009 at 7:54 PM

Good enough for ABC, good enough for Hot Air!

You don’t think too highly of Hotair.

keep the change on October 14, 2009 at 7:54 PM

I think it will be the guy with the turban.

Rocks on October 14, 2009 at 7:55 PM

So the inspections are to be postponed?

d1carter on October 14, 2009 at 7:56 PM

He has cancer so it’s quite possible.

aengus on October 14, 2009 at 7:56 PM

I saw this earlier but thought it was from a 2007 article. Maybe today’s a good day, after all. Or not.

Connie on October 14, 2009 at 7:57 PM

So long as he stays dead. [Or comatose.]

If we cannot go after them directly, at least we can attrit them…

coldwarrior on October 14, 2009 at 7:57 PM

Whoever it is we can be sure it is Allah’s will. (the real allah)

fourdeucer on October 14, 2009 at 7:58 PM

Wow. If this is true (I hate rumors), this could make the protests look like child’s play. What happens when Ahmadinejad cracks down without any “moral authority/guidance” behind him. Hopefully a revolution takes place, and of course, hopefully the death count is small.

DanStark on October 14, 2009 at 7:59 PM

Doesn’t really matter who is next in line, obama is already getting his lips as soft as possible with a fresh tube of vaseline for the oral he plans on performing on the new mullah, homenikhomeni what-the-hell-ever….child molester in chief, that’s better.

Spiritk9 on October 14, 2009 at 8:02 PM

Does it really matter which mullah takes over, by definition he will always be against us. If i remember correctly we have tried to deal with Rafsanjani before and it did not get us anywhere. If the people actually rise up and toss these guys then it is a different story.

bluemarlin on October 14, 2009 at 8:03 PM

much to be worried about

Putin says no to sanctions

Russia says yes to nukes in regional conflict

And Obama’s magical mystery tour continues

r keller on October 14, 2009 at 8:03 PM

I blame Castro for this rumor.

Connie on October 14, 2009 at 8:05 PM

Terrorists don’t die willingly.

Key West Reader on October 14, 2009 at 7:49 PM

Although, they will burn in hell, God willing.

Question: Will Obama appoint a new czar to replace the supreme leader of Iran?

dthorny on October 14, 2009 at 8:08 PM

test

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on October 14, 2009 at 8:08 PM

Teddy’s getting company.

fogw on October 14, 2009 at 8:08 PM

His condition had already seriously deteriorated over the last months, aggravated by his nervous condition due to [1] his inability to solve the problems created by his manipulation of the election results and the refusal of [a large part of] the population to accept this, plus [2] his loss of religious authority by means of the repeated condemnations of events by senior clerics.

But mostly due to the arsenic that was added to his food./

ICBM on October 14, 2009 at 8:09 PM

much to be worried about

Putin says no to sanctions

Russia says yes to nukes in regional conflict

And Obama’s magical mystery tour continues

r keller on October 14, 2009 at 8:03 PM

but, but, but, we hit the reset button (again) and everything and we have the adult smart power involved now………

bluemarlin on October 14, 2009 at 8:09 PM

Head towel too tight?

SouthernGent on October 14, 2009 at 8:10 PM

My money is on Yazdi. Of course, he might have to finish wiping the blood off his knife first.

steveegg on October 14, 2009 at 8:11 PM

Coming soon:

Weekend at Bernies Ayatollahs.

Guardian on October 14, 2009 at 8:12 PM

So the inspections are to be postponed?

d1carter on October 14, 2009 at 7:56 PM

Nope! Hillary said that Russia can inspect our Nuclear Facilities. Cuz Obama Say So

Wow.

Key West Reader on October 14, 2009 at 8:13 PM

I will not be able to attend the funeral but I will be sure to send a nice card saying that I approve.
- Mark twain

MB4 on October 14, 2009 at 8:14 PM

Ahmadhitlerjad will probably say this has something to do with the Mahdi coming and therefore he has to nuke Israel or something.

VanPalin on October 14, 2009 at 8:16 PM

One possibility is the Ayatollah Mesbah Yazdi, Ahmadinejad’s own personal “spiritual advisor” and a jihadist so hardcore that his top disciples have already come out publicly in favor of Iranian nuclear weapons. If he’s the pick, it’s panic time.

Stratfor: Odds of War with Iran Spiking

If Stratfor (and this report predates the news/rumor above) proves right, this would be a “game changer” in more ways than one.

MB4 on October 14, 2009 at 8:16 PM

Question: Will Obama appoint a new czar to replace the supreme leader of Iran?

dthorny on October 14, 2009 at 8:08 PM

I think he’s already appointed all the Czars for Russia, at the expense of our Nation. So? Ask Putin! Putin will tell us what we will do.

/over my dead, cold body.

Key West Reader on October 14, 2009 at 8:17 PM

Ahmadhitlerjad will probably say this has something to do with the Mahdi coming and therefore he has to nuke Israel or something.

VanPalin on October 14, 2009 at 8:16 PM

Depends on who’s “Mahdi” you’re talking about. I guess we shall see. I hope we are all prepared.

Key West Reader on October 14, 2009 at 8:19 PM

May all his 72 virgins look like Helen Thomas.

Dave R. on October 14, 2009 at 8:27 PM

Another possibility is that the Guard will simply finish the process started this summer and stage a full-blown military coup

After which Obama will hail the victory of democracy!

Kafir on October 14, 2009 at 8:31 PM

AFTER SAVING AHMADINEHAD’S ASS, RESTORING ZELAYA, AND TAKING MISSILE DEFENSE AWAY FROM POLAND AND THE CZECH REPUBLIC, OBAMA IS GOING TO LAY HANDS ON THE SUPREME LEADER AND HEAL HIM.

BECAUSE OBAMA IS SO GOOD.

reliapundit on October 14, 2009 at 8:34 PM

.

B Man on October 14, 2009 at 8:41 PM

Question: Will Obama appoint a new czar to replace the supreme leader of Iran?

dthorny on October 14, 2009 at 8:08 PM
I think he’s already appointed all the Czars for Russia, at the expense of our Nation. So? Ask Putin! Putin will tell us what we will do.

/over my dead, cold body.

Key West Reader on October 14, 2009 at 8:17 PM

So Putin is on the Blackberry? I thought it was George Soros?

May all his 72 virgins look like Helen Thomas.

Dave R. on October 14, 2009 at 8:27 PM

Randall Tex Cobb aka Ben Dover in Fletch Lives.

dthorny on October 14, 2009 at 8:42 PM

If it’s true that they are going to be reporting his death in the morning (tehran time), it’s gonna be soon.

B Man on October 14, 2009 at 8:42 PM

No reason to get happy. There’s more than enough child molesters in the wings that can replace this one.

Shambhala on October 14, 2009 at 7:48 PM

True enough, but without this one, there’s one less in the world.

ncborn on October 14, 2009 at 8:43 PM

Radiation poisoning?

Dave R,
“May all his 72 virgins look like Helen Thomas.”

Poor translation – it’s actually “72 versions of Helen Thomas.”

exhelodrvr on October 14, 2009 at 9:00 PM

So does this mean he’s in a “khoma”?

(ugh, sorry.)

Bruno Strozek on October 14, 2009 at 9:04 PM

Dang. If we had a president with any honor and a backbone, now would be the time to apply a little judicious help to the pro-democracy crowd there. Sigh.

starboardhelm on October 14, 2009 at 9:27 PM

“Imam in a coma, I know, I know it’s serious…”

Rich Fader on October 14, 2009 at 9:33 PM

To me this looks like a Vast Right Wing Conspiracy to throw Iran into chaos and derail Obama’s diplomacy / peace efforts.

antisocial on October 14, 2009 at 9:38 PM

Rich Fader,
Ima mina coma.

exhelodrvr on October 14, 2009 at 9:43 PM

Alligator or Crocodile?

Rattler or Cottonmouth?

May they all end up swinging from lamp-posts and construction cranes.

Psychotic theocratic crapulous maniacs.

profitsbeard on October 14, 2009 at 9:54 PM

Will Obama wait until after he receives the Nobel Peace prize before he mobilizes the country for a full-up regional war?

pedestrian on October 14, 2009 at 10:18 PM

From the Anti-Mullah.

The ‘overview’ is worth a read:

http://noiri.blogspot.com/2009/10/overview-of-what-might-happen-when.html

It’s an utter rats-nest over there.

CPT. Charles on October 14, 2009 at 10:27 PM

I disagree that the Guard is exclusively in control unless you want to include Khamenhei (hereafter referred to as “Dr. K” for purposes of simplification).

The Guard was dead on loyal to the old Ayatollah Khomenei – and Dr. K was a disciple. In fact – according to the Constitution, Dr. K wasn’t even qualified to take Khomenei’s position as Supreme Poo-bah – because Dr. K wasn’t a Grand Ayatollah – just a lowly cleric. A quick constitutional change solve that problem though. I believe the Guard is loyal to Dr. K – because Dr. K was loyal to Khomenei.

The new Supreme Poo-bah will be someone who was a loyal servant of Khomenei. The Islamic Guard aren’t a mafia – they are religious zealots. They are loyal to the Islamic Revolution and they want … NEED … a Supreme Leader that they can stand with. They aren’t looking for a puppet they can control. They are looking for someone they can have a symbiotic relationship with.

It’s not Rafsanjani.

And I don’t think it will be any moderate. The IRG will want someone they can genuine look up to as a true Islamic Supreme Poo-bah – and trying to “game the west” with a moderate is not their style. They will opt for ideology over political expediency.

My prediction?

Ayatollah Mohammad Taghi Mesbah Yazdi

HondaV65 on October 14, 2009 at 10:29 PM

Good! I hope the murdering SOB really is dead. Then it’s only 1,569,999,999 more devil-worshipping gutter-religion Muslims to go.

He’ll join the long line of Muslims being sodomized in Hell as payback for all the Muslim-run nations that force everyone under their thumb to convert, submit or die.

CatchAll on October 14, 2009 at 10:33 PM

Sorry, this made me think of it. Slightly OT, but what’s up w/Ariel Sharon? Is HE still in a coma? Never heard that he died. Did I miss it?

JAM on October 14, 2009 at 10:37 PM

So now he’s pretending to be sick.
Right.

B Man on October 14, 2009 at 11:05 PM

I hope they elect the hardest nutcase they have. I’m sick of playing footsie with Iran and its backers. Time to put up or shut up.

OldEnglish on October 14, 2009 at 11:24 PM

A little birdie told me,..he’s kicked the bucket,..bought the farm,..smokin with satan,…shock and Awww over 72 men!

christene on October 14, 2009 at 11:45 PM

HondaV65 on October 14, 2009 at 10:29 PM

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I think many of thos IRG Generals have made themselves very rich so I might disagree with you on ideology part. What I mean by that as they will go for a hardline DrK type as that means thay can still use hardline ideolgy to control the population and keep business as usual. How many times has it been said and it never gets old or false, "follow the money".

bluemarlin on October 14, 2009 at 11:47 PM

Maybe he stood too close and too long near the nuclear bomb making facility without wearing his lead-lined burka.

albill on October 15, 2009 at 7:37 AM