Dems worried low turnout among black voters will lose them the House

posted at 3:40 pm on October 14, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Last year, Democrats sailed to their current majority of over 70 seats in the House, thanks to the coattails of Barack Obama, especially among African-American voters who turned out in record numbers.  In 2010, without Obama on the top of the ticket and with Democrats increasingly isolated on their agenda, that majority may disappear.  Democratic strategists worry about record low turnouts among black voters and what that might mean for the midterms next year:

Alarms are being rung about just how many African-Americans will vote without President Barack Obama on the ballot, and the New Jersey and Virginia governors’ races in three weeks will provide the first major test since the 2008 election.

A recent Washington Post survey estimated the black turnout in Virginia’s governor’s race at 12 percent, which would be about a 40 percent drop from last year’s general election. Other polling has shown both its and New Jersey’s black population unmoved about the off-year election.

The question at this point isn’t so much whether black voters will turn out at 2008 levels, but how big the drop will be — and then, whether it carries into the 2010 midterms.

Tom Jensen, a spokesman for the Democratic-leaning Public Policy Polling, has been among the most outspoken. He said the high number of Democrats with districts that are significantly black means such a turnout shift could be disastrous for Democrats.

“If what looks like is going to happen in Virginia plays out on a national level, I do think Democrats will lose the House,” Jensen said.

Jensen says that voters who went with Democrats in 2008 haven’t switched sides but become complacent.  That doesn’t match with the polling data from every major national pollster — and I mean every one — showing a flight of independents from the Democrats.  Jensen also ignores the recent Gallup poll of 5,000 adults that shows party identification the closest in four years, which means that some former Democrats have left the fold.  Clearly, Democrats have lost electoral ground overall, not just in enthusiasm in the African-American community.

In that group, the Republicans are not likely to have made great inroads yet.  Despite the new “What Up” blog at GOP.com, the GOP has not put out much effort in talking sense to black voters and explaining conservative principles in the context of their lives.   They should be focused on effective outreach, not slang-titled blogs that sound more patronizing than welcoming.

However, midterms tend to get lower turnout numbers as a matter of course.  The Democrats won back the House and the Senate with a turnout of just 47% overall in 2006.  The black vote turned out significantly lower at 41.2%, and Hispanics even lower at 32.3%.  All of these were improvements over 2002, but only incremental increases.

If the Democrats lose the House, it will be much more attributable to their radical policy agenda in 2009-10 than a return to normal midterm turnout levels.  This sounds like either an excuse or a little bit of scaremongering to get organizers enthused for the 2010 campaign.


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They better start sending money back to Acorn!

bridgetown on October 14, 2009 at 3:42 PM

Well, that explains all the “Rush” to racial demagoguery.

MoronThisLater on October 14, 2009 at 3:42 PM

I guess there just is not enough ACORN money anymore to drive them to the polls and pull the lever.

PatriotRider on October 14, 2009 at 3:43 PM

Black people should vote for democrats because 20% of them are unemployed. I guess.

lorien1973 on October 14, 2009 at 3:43 PM

Don’t worry Dems. If Obama keeps driving up Black Underemployment it’s not like they will have anything else to do.

What’s it at now? 15% unemployment? 24% or so underemployment I’m guessing?

jhffmn on October 14, 2009 at 3:44 PM

Maybe they’ll get an upsurge in illegal immigrants and dead people voting, to compensate.

malclave on October 14, 2009 at 3:44 PM

All your blacks are belong to us“- Bleeds Blue.

portlandon on October 14, 2009 at 3:44 PM

I betcha folks like Ray Nagin (sic?) in New Orleans will be able to find the keys to school buses that he couldn’t find when Katrina hit. They’ll be busing them in from all over the place and offering who-knows-what in order to get them out and do it.

ted c on October 14, 2009 at 3:45 PM

Maybe they should have waited until the first Tuesday in November to give out that Obama money, right next to polling stations.

ctmom on October 14, 2009 at 3:45 PM

This is not a problem for the Dems. Just offer applications for “Obama money” at the polls and watch people turn out in droves.

On a slightly more serious note, I am curious to see how the collapse of ACORN will impact future elections.

Doughboy on October 14, 2009 at 3:45 PM

I’m sure this will be misconstrued, but past voter turnout suggests that “free stuff” seems to help. The dems just need to promise more free stuff.

Rational Thought on October 14, 2009 at 3:45 PM

Well, the Dems haven’t fulfilled Obama’s promise to pay mortgages and rent, and utility bills and milliuons and millions of new jobs and provide all that free everything the Obamatrons were dancing in the streets celebrating last November…

The real point of worry is that a good majority of America has seen up close that Emperor Obama [Obama the Unclothed] has done nothing but throw away money since he arrived in Washington, and the Dem,-controlled Congress has done their utmost to authorize more spending.

You can see the fear in their eyes…and smell it as well.

coldwarrior on October 14, 2009 at 3:45 PM

Alternate Headline: Democrats Worried That Blacks Are A Bunch of Racists

LibTired on October 14, 2009 at 3:45 PM

Blacks will only turn out for black candidates I guess…

OmahaConservative on October 14, 2009 at 3:46 PM

the GOP has not put out much effort in talking sense to black voters and explaining conservative principles in the context of their lives. They should be focused on effective outreach, not slang-titled blogs that sound more patronizing than welcoming.

While true, how do you get a message through (to sink in) to a group of people that has been educated over time to believe you mean them ill, your intentions are bad and are not to be trusted?

WashJeff on October 14, 2009 at 3:46 PM

portlandon on October 14, 2009 at 3:44 PM

LOL

He’s so easy to spoof.

lorien1973 on October 14, 2009 at 3:46 PM

You can only go through the motions of reaching out to a population that rejects you by a margin of 95-5 everytime, and just feel like giving up.

Apologetic California on October 14, 2009 at 3:46 PM

Despite the new “What Up” blog at GOP.com, the GOP has not put out much effort in talking sense to black voters and explaining conservative principles in the context of their lives.

They changed the name of the blog to “Change the Game.”

Shock the Monkey on October 14, 2009 at 3:47 PM

the GOP has not put out much effort in talking sense to black voters and explaining conservative principles in the context of their lives.

They haven’t done this to white voters or hispanic voters or asian voters either. So blacks can’t feel left out in that regard….

lorien1973 on October 14, 2009 at 3:47 PM

What I find even more astonishing is how the Dems are relying on the 3rd largest ethnic group in the country to maintain their majority in Congress. If they are only looking at that small percentage of overall voters to save their necks, they are really out of touch. I guessed they missed the memo back on 9/12 when the middle majority of Americans showed up in DC and begged them to stop spending!!

Idiots. I hope they stay this stupid for another 13 months.

karenhasfreedom on October 14, 2009 at 3:47 PM

Dems worried low turnout among black voters will lose them the House.

Because Acorn will be unavailable to ‘rock the vote’? As proven in 2008, a majority of the black vote came out to vote for the black candidate…he could have been representing the ‘Satan’ Party….yeah, I know, he was…and they would have gladly signed on for ‘HISTORICAL’ signifigance.

HornetSting on October 14, 2009 at 3:48 PM

What happened to all the illegals with multiple IDs? With so many of them, why do democrats need blacks?
Just openup some polling stations in Mexico and even the potential illegals will get to vote …..

macncheez on October 14, 2009 at 3:49 PM

The Dem blame game is already starting and it’s one year ahead of the election….bad sign…for them.

PatriotRider on October 14, 2009 at 3:50 PM

Wait a sec. Are they worried about the colored folks escaping the Uncle Sam’s Plantation (a.k.a the DNC) or that they’re just living up to the stereotype of being shiftless and lazy?

mizflame98 on October 14, 2009 at 3:50 PM

OMG this is so racist. Democrats need blacks to win and blacks only came out to vote for Obama because he was black? This is reprehensible! Next you’ll be discriminating against the dead voter too!!

Theworldisnotenough on October 14, 2009 at 3:50 PM

Maybe they’ll get an upsurge in illegal immigrants and dead people voting, to compensate.

malclave on October 14, 2009 at 3:44 PM

But of course they will. The dead, illegals, and liberal lawyers who will arrange for buses to take associates across state lines to cast fraudulent votes.

LASue on October 14, 2009 at 3:50 PM

Jensen says that voters who went with Democrats in 2008 haven’t switched sides but become complacent.

or disgusted

MarkTheGreat on October 14, 2009 at 3:51 PM

We need Bleeds Blue to provide us with some revisionist history.

BadgerHawk on October 14, 2009 at 3:51 PM

Need a new ACORN voter registration drive I guess…

PatriotRider on October 14, 2009 at 3:52 PM

Jackson and Sharpton will see to it there is some pocket money to get out the vote.

fourdeucer on October 14, 2009 at 3:52 PM

Dems worried low turnout among black voters will lose them the House

This is quite simple. The free check that was promised by Obama and all his liberal hacks that rode into office promising the moon—IS STILL IN THE MAIL.

Now’s the time to start being vigilant watching where the TARP money and the balance of the stimulus money goes.

Rovin on October 14, 2009 at 3:52 PM

I guess there just is not enough ACORN money anymore to drive them to the polls and pull the lever.

PatriotRider on October 14, 2009 at 3:43 PM

Don’t worry. The financial spigot will be turned back on for ACORN starting November 1st.

mizflame98 on October 14, 2009 at 3:52 PM

Wait a sec. Are they worried about the colored folks escaping the Uncle Sam’s Plantation (a.k.a the DNC) or that they’re just living up to the stereotype of being shiftless and lazy?

mizflame98 on October 14, 2009 at 3:50 PM

I seriously doubt they’re afraid that black voters will switch to the GOP. But if turnout is low, that will hurt a lot of Dems in the midterms. I wouldn’t necessarily use the terms “shiftless” or “lazy”. More like a lack of enthusiasm.

Doughboy on October 14, 2009 at 3:52 PM

I think it’s hilarious that LGF is actually calling on his subjects to scan HotAir for nasty comments.
What he wants is HA’s traffic. I suggest not giving it to him.

Hey Charles!

bridgetown on October 14, 2009 at 3:52 PM

Is it me, or does this dependency on the black vote by Dems, seem a tad racist? Or is it a co-dependency? Dems need blacks to be dependent, and Dems need them to be dependent. If this isn’t enough to wake some up to what exactly the democratic party is about now….nothing will!

capejasmine on October 14, 2009 at 3:53 PM

Maybe it’s a not-so-subtle hint to start uncorking some of the ‘Stimulus’ money early and start spreading it around [like they were doing in Detroit].

After all, buying minority votes with our tax dollars is tried-and-true tactic.

CPT. Charles on October 14, 2009 at 3:53 PM

You mean there’s a downside to the politics of identity?

*shocked*

Sharke on October 14, 2009 at 3:53 PM

25 year Dem here, made it official that i am now unaffiliated. All of my famil,y and friends in this blue state are registered Dems that did not vote Democratic this last election. Many are making it “official” now.

Speaking as someone formerly in the other camp, Democratic voters are turning away in droves. Not all are making it official but they certainly didn’t vote Dem in the last election and they won’t in the coming election

Niteowl45 on October 14, 2009 at 3:55 PM

Maybe they could pass “must vote” legislation, a la Australia’s. With a suitable fine, of course, for voting Republican.

mojo on October 14, 2009 at 3:55 PM

Wait a sec. Are they worried about the colored folks escaping the Uncle Sam’s Plantation (a.k.a the DNC) or that they’re just living up to the stereotype of being shiftless and lazy?

mizflame98 on October 14, 2009 at 3:50 PM

I seriously doubt they’re afraid that black voters will switch to the GOP. But if turnout is low, that will hurt a lot of Dems in the midterms. I wouldn’t necessarily use the terms “shiftless” or “lazy”. More like a lack of enthusiasm.

Doughboy on October 14, 2009 at 3:52 PM

Actually, I was being facetious. I find the whole idea of targeting a certain group based on race in order to win an election to be despicable.

mizflame98 on October 14, 2009 at 3:56 PM

I thinl what the Democrats need to do is start smearing the other side as racist. That should light a fire under the black electorate.

- A Democratic Strategist.

Sharke on October 14, 2009 at 3:56 PM

They have to be offered something first before they come out don’t they? I can’t imagine that the dems are going to take this lying down.Acorn has been stopped until oct.31,look out next month unless some senators find some gonads and stop it totally.

ohiobabe on October 14, 2009 at 3:56 PM

Lots of that stimulus money is left to spend….isn’t it interesting how stimulus spending spkies in 2010. (graph from Fox Business Channel yesterday)

PatriotRider on October 14, 2009 at 3:56 PM

I think what the Democrats need to do is start smearing the other side as racist. That should light a fire under the black electorate.

- A Democratic Strategist.

Sharke on October 14, 2009 at 3:56 PM

25 year Dem here, made it official that i am now unaffiliated. All of my famil,y and friends in this blue state are registered Dems that did not vote Democratic this last election. Many are making it “official” now.

Speaking as someone formerly in the other camp, Democratic voters are turning away in droves. Not all are making it official but they certainly didn’t vote Dem in the last election and they won’t in the coming election

Niteowl45 on October 14, 2009 at 3:55 PM

Just out of curiosity, why didn’t they vote Dem in the last election? It’s not like 2008 was a bad year for the party.

Doughboy on October 14, 2009 at 3:57 PM

As things get worse, most with Dem promises failing blacks, it’s surely worrisome for Dems who run the New Plantation there might be a second Emancipation.

More and more, black pastors I see are conservative. Rich, white, limousine liberals are under threat of being smacked down at long last. They are the REAL plantation owners, the ‘soft’ bigotry of lower expectations.

Go, Nanzi, go Howie. Keep telling black Citizens they can’t do well without you; keep telling those people they’re nothing unless you give it to them.

Every black American I know works hard for a living. The lib Dem facade is cracking. Get the popcorn, friends! The MSM is imploding, the Dem party is acting like a desperate teen on Prom Night, and the Seat of Power–the White House–can only whine when all others before had genuine policies.

Times, they are a-changin’.

Liam on October 14, 2009 at 3:57 PM

PatriotRider on October 14, 2009 at 3:56 PM

There was a good graph on a site the other day that showed unemployment rising along with government spending. So not sure how that’ll benefit them.

lorien1973 on October 14, 2009 at 3:58 PM

They’re losing ground in every other demographic, and they’re worried about black voters? Keep being stupid Dims. The Repubs lost in ’06 due to incompetence and over spending, plus a President with low approval numbers. Sound familiar? Oh, and not to mention blatant disregard for controlling corruption. That’s you Rangel, Dodd, etc.

FlyoverJ-HawkFan on October 14, 2009 at 3:58 PM

They better start sending money back to Acorn!

bridgetown on October 14, 2009 at 3:42 PM

They will. The stop funding they issued is only good until the end of this month…

Tuari on October 14, 2009 at 4:00 PM

We need Bleeds Blue to provide us with some revisionist history.

BadgerHawk on October 14, 2009 at 3:51 PM

Somebody move the rock.

HornetSting on October 14, 2009 at 4:00 PM

They need a single spokes-person to target the monolithic “black vote”. And that spokesperson is Barbara Boxer… just ask Harry Alford.

Doorgunner on October 14, 2009 at 4:00 PM

They have to be offered something first before they come out don’t they? I can’t imagine that the dems are going to take this lying down.Acorn has been stopped until oct.31,look out next month unless some senators find some gonads and stop it totally.

ohiobabe on October 14, 2009 at 3:56 PM

The Dems are insane if they think they just ignore the ACORN controversy and allow the funding to continue in November. Even if O’Keefe, Giles, and Breitbart don’t have more videos stashed away(and from all accounts, they do), the uproar from that organization receiving another federal dollar is something Obama and Congress don’t need right now.

Doughboy on October 14, 2009 at 4:01 PM

There was a good graph on a site the other day that showed unemployment rising along with government spending. So not sure how that’ll benefit them.

lorien1973 on October 14, 2009 at 3:58 PM

It’s going to be given as a handout, probably to everyone making under a certain amount of money (say $100,000 per year), which Obama and the libs will call a “tax cut”.

LibTired on October 14, 2009 at 4:01 PM

why would any black vote for the Dems anyway? the Dems are making slaves out of the whole group of them. and yeah, the Dems are damn racist about it, too. the Dems just shove money at them to buy their vote. why can’t the blacks see what the Dems are doing?

kelley in virginia on October 14, 2009 at 4:01 PM

Jackson and Sharpton will see to it there is some pocket money to get out the vote.

fourdeucer on October 14, 2009 at 3:52 PM
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2 honest ,law -abiding citizens,wouldn’t go out of their way to cause trouble:)

ohiobabe on October 14, 2009 at 4:02 PM

Get those union buses to the plantations!!!!!

Hening on October 14, 2009 at 4:03 PM

In that group, the Republicans are not likely to have made great inroads yet. Despite the new “What Up” blog at GOP.com, the GOP has not put out much effort in talking sense to black voters and explaining conservative principles in the context of their lives. They should be focused on effective outreach, not slang-titled blogs that sound more patronizing than welcoming.

I can’t disagree with Ed. By I’d submit that the GOP needs a nice, cold, global-warming winter to even begin to see some blacks shaking off the Kool-Aid.

There’s no harm in now hammering Dem politicians nationally and locally for the pathetic state of inner-city schools. The GOP might also publicize the private accomplishments of successful blacks, highlighting how success resulted from adhering to conservative principles–as opposed to receipt of free stuff.

That said, blacks will overwhelmingly stick with Obama all the way off the cliff.

BuckeyeSam on October 14, 2009 at 4:03 PM

LGFer alert!

The lizardlosers are calling everyone over here racists.
CJ can only keep his blog going by bashing us and others.
He deletes ANY post that disagrees with him.

I remember the days over there when the threads had 1000 plus posts.
Now you get 50.
Bwahahahahaha!

ArmyAunt on October 14, 2009 at 4:04 PM

kelley in virginia on October 14, 2009 at 4:01 PM

People were sold a bill of goods, nothing more. Nothing lasts forever; that old thing is worn so thin it can’t work any more. As the headline says, Dems are worried now, after 50 years. A good thing!

Liam on October 14, 2009 at 4:04 PM

The Dems shouldn’t worry about blacks not turning out to vote. They need to worry that whites do.

orlandocajun on October 14, 2009 at 4:04 PM

We need Bleeds Blue to provide us with some revisionist history.

BadgerHawk on October 14, 2009 at 3:51 PM

Somebody move the rock.

HornetSting on October 14, 2009 at 4:00 PM

We already went this once today Jesse Helms Robert Byrd southern dems northern Rs states rights southern strategy Robert Byrd again Lincoln Johnson etc.

But, you know, I’m always happy to scrap with y’all.

Bleeds Blue on October 14, 2009 at 4:04 PM

Times, they are a-changin’.

Liam on October 14, 2009 at 3:57 PM

Oh they will change, but for how long? Will the Repubs crash the gate and effect real change only to lose their way due to complacency? My guys, Roberts, Brownback, and Tiahrt (congress), only Tiahrt pissed off the libs. Now he’s running for Brownback’s seat since Brownback’s running for Governor. Robert’s okay, unless you put him in charge of security issues or farm subsidies. These guys have to come in like ’94 and stay that way or we are back to square one.

FlyoverJ-HawkFan on October 14, 2009 at 4:04 PM

the GOP has not put out much effort in talking sense to black voters…

Perhaps because they’re speaking in English instead of ghettoese?

…and explaining conservative principles in the context of their lives.

Between decades of welfare statism and the job crush of the current recession, conservative principles are a tough sell right for a lot of people.

Also, “turn down that (obscenity-laden) noise, pull up your pants and get a job” hasn’t seemed to resonate for quite awhile now. And if that message isn’t being heeded then attempting to argue more complex principles is an iffy proposition at best.

Dark-Star on October 14, 2009 at 4:05 PM

But, you know, I’m always happy to scrap with y’all.

Bleeds Blue on October 14, 2009 at 4:04 PM

I like sparring with you, too. You just can’t cross a line by calling someone like Sessions a racist without anything to back it up. That’s not cool.

BadgerHawk on October 14, 2009 at 4:06 PM

29 Charles
Wed, Oct 14, 2009 1:04:44pm replyquote 0downupreport

re: #26 spacejesus

lots of hilarious southern slavery revisionism going on at stalkerblog.com

If anyone wants to know why those people were banned from LGF, thats a good thread to start with.

You ban people for two reasons.
1. disagreeing with you.
2. posting on a blog that you don’t like.

Those are the ONLY TWO reasons you ban cj.

ArmyAunt on October 14, 2009 at 4:06 PM

As far as the Blacks, mention bringing back school vouchers, and that will go a long way.

FlyoverJ-HawkFan on October 14, 2009 at 4:06 PM

Jackson and Sharpton will see to it there is some pocket money to get out the vote.

fourdeucer on October 14, 2009 at 3:52 PM

Eventually, they’ll both go by the wayside. They’re capitalists, really.

As Marx said, Communism is inevitable. So is the fall of Jackson and Sharpton.

Liam on October 14, 2009 at 4:06 PM

ArmyAunt on October 14, 2009 at 4:04 PM

I didn’t make the list. Must try harder next time.

lorien1973 on October 14, 2009 at 4:07 PM

Oh I did.
Only for insulting sharmuta though LOL

ArmyAunt on October 14, 2009 at 4:08 PM

Bleeds Blue on October 14, 2009 at 4:04 PM

Actually, you should re-read that headline thread. There’s some pretty good factural and historical information that might adjust your outlook on the subject a bit. At the very least get you to realize that both parties have their shady characters.

BadgerHawk on October 14, 2009 at 4:08 PM

More race cards coming soon…

Don L on October 14, 2009 at 4:08 PM

BadgerHawk on October 14, 2009 at 4:06 PM

Thank you for kicking the rock, Badger. Let’s see what the spin brings us today……

HornetSting on October 14, 2009 at 4:09 PM

With so many comments on the subject, should I even try and care about the whole Charles Johnson/LGF thing?

If I ignore it will it all just go away so we can have our normal programming back? Or is this something I need to pay attention to?

Abby Adams on October 14, 2009 at 4:10 PM

FlyoverJ-HawkFan on October 14, 2009 at 4:04 PM

I find the Pubs are Dem-Lite. No balls there, or between the parties. A problem that needs to be fixed. The hard question is how to do it. The Pubs have no leaders at all, not even Sarah. The Dems have pick-and-choose to get their desired result.

The Pubs don’t even know what result they want.

Liam on October 14, 2009 at 4:10 PM

LGFer alert!
The lizardlosers are calling everyone over here racists.
CJ can only keep his blog going by bashing us and others.
He deletes ANY post that disagrees with him.
ArmyAunt on October 14, 2009 at 4:04 PM

I got banned in about ten days on LGF. Hot Air is much more cooler. I get to say all kinds of crazy stuff.

Akzed on October 14, 2009 at 4:11 PM

The GOP might also publicize the private accomplishments of successful blacks, highlighting how success resulted from adhering to conservative principles–as opposed to receipt of free stuff.

Good idea.

That said, blacks will overwhelmingly stick with Obama all the way off the cliff.

BuckeyeSam

Unfortunately I think you’re right.

beachgirlusa on October 14, 2009 at 4:11 PM

Only for insulting sharmuta though LOL

ArmyAunt on October 14, 2009 at 4:08 PM

The word “sharmuta” is a pretty vile Arabic slur…can’t really insult anyone who takes that word for a handle.

coldwarrior on October 14, 2009 at 4:11 PM

Abby Adams on October 14, 2009 at 4:10 PM

I think it is only an issue because Ed and Allah cared enough to ban a couple of beloved posters because of it….but, I’m with you, Abby. Let’s just let the lizard stew in his own filth.

HornetSting on October 14, 2009 at 4:11 PM

Guess the best they can do to motivate the black vote now is to throw out news pieces like these.

misslizzi on October 14, 2009 at 4:12 PM

Or is this something I need to pay attention to?

Abby Adams on October 14, 2009 at 4:10 PM

Depends on if you enjoy watching emotional meltdowns or not. If you do, subscribe to LGF’s RSS feed and do a site search from last year to see 100% opposite positions on nearly everything.

If emotional meltdowns aren’t your thing. Well. You’re probably a racist.

lorien1973 on October 14, 2009 at 4:12 PM

Despite the new “What Up” blog at GOP.com, the GOP has not put out much effort in talking sense to black voters and explaining conservative principles in the context of their lives.

Conservativism does not need to be “sold” to anyone. It is what it is. Only when an individual is confident and accepting of the idea that equal opportunity is the key (not that life must be fair or that effort must count without achievement) will he come, of his own accord, to the conservative side. This idea of “conservative outreach” is just a silly tranposition of tribalist leftism to a conservative background, and it doesn’t fit. You do not sell conservativism to people. People decide to buy it, either because of their personalities, their thinking about the world, or what they see conservative principles generate.

progressoverpeace on October 14, 2009 at 4:12 PM

Liam on October 14, 2009 at 4:10 PM

Yep, no moral compass.

FlyoverJ-HawkFan on October 14, 2009 at 4:12 PM

I believe it was DONNA BRAZILLE who said the Democratic party no longer needed the blue collar workers and soccer moms, I remember it verrrrrry well.

Well I certainly do NOT need or want Donna Brazille and the hideous party that are the Dems today.

good luck with your all new no middle class needed party there Donna!

ginaswo on October 14, 2009 at 4:13 PM

I like sparring with you, too. You just can’t cross a line by calling someone like Sessions a racist without anything to back it up. That’s not cool.

BadgerHawk on October 14, 2009 at 4:06 PM

I will leave Senator Sessions out of it.

And I will admit that Jesse Helms was, in his own sort of way, quite the gentleman who was nice to strangers even when — as my friend did at the time — they looked like Rasputin.

Jackson and Sharpton will see to it there is some pocket money to get out the vote.

fourdeucer on October 14, 2009 at 3:52 PM

Eventually, they’ll both go by the wayside. They’re capitalists, really.

As Marx said, Communism is inevitable. So is the fall of Jackson and Sharpton.

Liam on October 14, 2009 at 4:06 PM

There’s always a little pocket money to get out the vote though, having once been the “muscle” when a little was being handed out, I can assure you that it is available to all races.

Jackson and Sharpton and Rangel and others are old news. Whether or not you care for Obama or Harold Ford or Adrien Fenty, they are a new and very different generation of political leadership. Dare one say it? Post racial?

Bleeds Blue on October 14, 2009 at 4:13 PM

progressoverpeace on October 14, 2009 at 4:12 PM

That’s really the problem with conservatism, though, isn’t it?

It requires effort.

Liberalism does not require this. It simply requires acquiescence.

lorien1973 on October 14, 2009 at 4:13 PM

As I said in the headlines, black people won’t turn out if Odumbass isn’t on the ticket and will suffer even more of a set back with ACORN having troubles. I wish the dem’s problems stemmed from their constituents waking up from their change induced haze but I doubt it.

txag92 on October 14, 2009 at 4:14 PM

Suggestions for Democrats:
Have Obama run for every office.

Have all the Democrats running for office change their last names to “Obama”.

Change the name of the Democratic Party to the Obama Party.

albill on October 14, 2009 at 4:14 PM

Dare one say it? Post racial?

Bleeds Blue on October 14, 2009 at 4:13 PM

If you wallow in race and use it to diminish people, are you really post racial?

Cartoon.

lorien1973 on October 14, 2009 at 4:15 PM

progressoverpeace has it right IMO, I came to the GOP because of who they were and who they werent not becuase they tried to ‘lure’ me in with kinder gentler GOPness.

Sarah sure as hexx didnt hurt though! I dig that woman, she gets it, she gets America IMO

ginaswo on October 14, 2009 at 4:15 PM

FlyoverJ-HawkFan on October 14, 2009 at 4:12 PM

Sick, sad, and demented, I say. The People need to vote FOR something. I have yet, in 15 years, to figure out what the Pubs stand for.

I’d like a third party but they’re hard to grow and sustain. Sad, but the best option is how to turn the Pub Party to true conservatism like under Reagan.

Liam on October 14, 2009 at 4:15 PM

Obama hasn’t spent but a small percent of that stimulus. Remember, no one knows where it went or who got what. You can bet your Chicago, street organizer boots that it will flow like honey before the election, pumpkins will turn into coaches and glass slippers will hustle black feet off to the polls in time for the big dance.

Don L on October 14, 2009 at 4:16 PM

Or is this something I need to pay attention to?

Abby Adams on October 14, 2009 at 4:10 PM

I don’t think it’s going anywhere. It started over a year and a half ago, but finally made its way to HotAir in the past month.

CJ claims his traffic is up, which may be true, since people like to watch a trainwreck.

But I suppose it’d would be easy enough to not pay attention to it at all (maybe easier because the back story is pretty long).

BadgerHawk on October 14, 2009 at 4:16 PM

A good and thought-provoking column by Michael Medved. He states that the GOP needs more conservatism communicated with a moderate tone. He makes the point that independents and moderates are driven away by strident rhetoric.

The Dems are losing the independent voters. It may be more about Pelosi, Reid, Obama and his administration and their tone than about blacks staying home next year.

Mallard T. Drake on October 14, 2009 at 4:17 PM

As far as the Blacks, mention bringing back school vouchers, and that will go a long way.

FlyoverJ-HawkFan on October 14, 2009 at 4:06 PM

You would think, but Obama screwed over minority kids in DC by ending the voucher program, yet he still enjoys 97% support from black voters.

I’m all for reaching out to as many potential voters as possible, but at some point it’s up to people to take individual responsibility for their own plight. If you keep voting in politicians who promise to provide you with everything, you’ll suffer one of two fates. You’ll either continue to be poor and dependent on the government, or if God willing you make it out of the slums and create a life for yourself, that same government will come along and take from you in order to spread the wealth back to those who are still dependent.

Doughboy on October 14, 2009 at 4:17 PM

Bleeds Blue on October 14, 2009 at 4:13 PM

If the DLC were still running the Democrat party the country would be in much better shape.

BadgerHawk on October 14, 2009 at 4:17 PM

Raaaaacist. It’s “voters of color.”

Daggett on October 14, 2009 at 4:18 PM

lorien1973 on October 14, 2009 at 4:13 PM

Yep. All valuable things carry a cost and a risk, and require a certain amount of courage. You can’t give, or sell, courage to people (with apologies to the Wizard of Oz).

progressoverpeace on October 14, 2009 at 4:20 PM

Liam on October 14, 2009 at 4:15 PM

I’m not very optimistic myself, but it would be better than what it is now. Only thing I’m encouraged about, is the fact that the “normal” people are protesting. I’m still skeptical where that will lead, but is the first time since I first voted in ’84 that the normal people have had it and have expressed it in other places than just the voting booth.

FlyoverJ-HawkFan on October 14, 2009 at 4:21 PM

see DNC that’s the thing about we soccr moms, we RAN the damn party on the ground, it was US who did the mailers, the calls the footwork in off yr elections, yep

well sayonara!

since you made it ABUNDANTLY clear we (and/or our input or services)were not needed or welcome and the Critters have picked up that meme in townhalls and editorials, you can see how far you get without the dedicated people, mostly women I might add, who have carried the stoopid Dems on our backs lo these many years, we turn out for EVERY FRAKKIN election

sounds as though the DNC is suddenly worried about the loyalty and party spirit of their new favorite voting block!

like you said during August recess Pelosi, why worry? call out your loyal purple shirted people who collect the checks you send them and get them to vote for your dimwitted policies

for years the Dems whined about people not voting their interests,. Well now it clearly IS IN OUR INTERESTS to vote the Dim Dems OUT as they tax and fee us to death and kill job creation and growth

ginaswo on October 14, 2009 at 4:21 PM

Mallard T. Drake on October 14, 2009 at 4:17 PM

I think that’s true. The key to bringing new people into a party is baby steps. Sell them on some of the easier, simpler aspects and give them time to determine whether or not they like some of the saltier parts of the party platform.

Want a strong military? Come on over!
Think taxes are too high? Be our friend!

I don’t remember where I read this (Ace, I think) but if you wanted to convince a virgin to take it to the next stage you might try a little “just the tip, to see how it feels”. You certainly wouldn’t propose a train with your drinking buddies.

BadgerHawk on October 14, 2009 at 4:22 PM

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