Breaking: Limbaugh to be dropped from NFL bid for Rams

posted at 4:51 pm on October 14, 2009 by Allahpundit

Instapundit wondered earlier if this was all a stunt to bait the media in classic Rush style. Doesn’t sound like it.

Rush Limbaugh is expected to be dropped from a group bidding to buy the St. Louis Rams, according to three NFL sources.

Dave Checketts, chairman of the NHL’s St. Louis Blues and the point man in the Limbaugh group attempting to buy the Rams, realizes he must remove the controversial conservative radio host from his potential role as a minority member in the group in order to get approval from other NFL owners, the sources said…

Exactly when Limbaugh will be dropped is uncertain, though some familiar with the situation said it could be within the next week. It is unclear if the two sides even have spoken.

Earlier Wednesday, on his syndicated radio show, Limbaugh was defiant, holding on to hope that he still could be part of the ownership group that buys the Rams.

“I’m not even thinking of exiting,” Limbaugh said on his program, according to a transcript provided to ESPN. “I’m not even thinking of caving. I am not a caver. None of us are. We have been betrayed by too many who have caved. Pioneers take the arrows. We are pioneers. It’s a sad thing but our country over 200 years old now needs pioneers all over again, but we do.”

Just yesterday, Goodell called Limbaugh’s old comments on Donovan McNabb “divisive” and unwelcome in the league, which I guess was his hint hint hint to Checketts to start over. From a business standpoint it’s hard to blame him — seeing the league mentioned in news segments about a “plantation” mentality can’t be good for the bottom line — but I guess that’ll depend on whether Rush tries to exact some sort of economic punishment. Anyone expect southern conservatives to boycott football? Me neither.

Update: An interesting point from the comments: If he’s serious about suing for defamation over the false racist quotes attributed to him, he’s now got a claim for damages. Still a tough suit to win but that’s an extra little carrot.

Update: Needless to say, the next vocal liberal who tries to buy a sports franchise is going to have a hell of a time.

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Rush spews ridicule, hatred, division, and racism 3 hours a day/5 days week. When he is called out on it you blame the people who are calling him out on it?

Criticism of liberalism and its apostles is “racism” and “hatred”, got it. Everyone should listen to “rev.” Wrights’ sermons instead. For 20 years, if possible.

runner on October 15, 2009 at 12:10 PM

Is Condi a “Magic Negro” also? Just trying to get things straight. Maybe only Democrats are “Magic Negroes” I guess…

Decider on October 15, 2009 at 12:10 PM

naw, just your coke-head precedent.

right4life on October 15, 2009 at 12:11 PM

This is capitalism at work folks. Employees have the right to refuse to work for anyone, no matter what the case. Would any of you work for Keith Olbermann?

Your analogy is flawed on too many levels to mention. The question to ask is “would you sign a contract to work for MSNBC if you going to be assigned to the Overbite show?” You are free to not sign that contract. The NFL players they claim they would never play for a team owned by Rush are idiots. First, the current Ram players would have to retire. They have a contract with the Rams and until that contract is up, the only choice they have is to continue to play for the Rams or retire. Other players? Sure, they can refuse to sign for the Rams when their contract is up. But, I’m pretty sure money talks at the end of the day. And the upcoming draft of college players? Say the Rams totally suck this year and get the #1 draft choice. Think whoever is chosen #1 will not sign? Maybe. But the Rams will have to either work out a trade or that player will have to sit out a year. That player would be a fool, because he would not be the #1 draft choice the next year and would lose boatloads of money. So all this talk from the players not playing for a team owned by Rush is just talk. Not gonna happen.

Yes the owners can vote who can be in their club. But I would think they would have to have a valid business case. Sure, I guess the case could be made that him owning the team because of what he MAY say in the future MIGHT but the NFL in a bad light….but not like that hasn’t happened already. NFL fans are NFL fans. They don’t seem to be hurting because of Vick coming back. But, if that is the standard the NFL is using, then I guess Jesse Jackson could never own a team due to him calling NY “Hymietown” in the past.

We only have to look at Mark Cuban as an example of onwership hypocricy. He owns a team in a very conservative state, but yet has called NBA players thugs, berated officials and the leagues commissioner, and has produced movies with very liberal viewpoints. Yet, the Mav fans seem to be fine with that, given their attendance. And I don’t see many NBA players refusing to play for Cuban despite calling them thugs. Because they know how well they are treated when playing for the Mavs. I would venture to say Rush would pour as much money as he could into ensuring the Rams players were treated quite well, given how big of a fan Rush is.

The owners are being short-sighted and small-minded. They also need to be careful. They have an anti-trust exemption from the gubmint. Now, I’m sure Barry wouldn’t do much and the current Congress won’t. But, if things change come 2010, and there is a new majority in Congress, some Senator or Congressman may just want to revisit this little anti-trust exemption given how the owners have behaved over Rush’s ownership bid.

How are Rush’s political views being potentially controversial any different than Milwaukee Buck’s owner Herb Kohl’s political views being controversial to conservatives. Let’s recall he opposed the appointment of Justice Roberts.

I gotta believe Rush is a pretty smart guy and knows that if he were to be an owner, the last thing he would want to do is make comments on his show that would put the league in a bad light. But, I guess we will never know.

Now, let’s have no more complaints about Augusta National Golf Club refusing to let women join. I mean, they have a right to determine who is in their club and who isn’t based on race, gender, creed, or viewpoints, right?

The NFL already has an issue with owner’s political views. Rooney, the owner of the Steelers, was a avout Barry worshiper…given him tons of money to get elected. As a reward he now has an ambassadorship to Ireland. But, that’s all okay, right? Because it was in support of Barry. How can the NFL credibly say it is worried about Rush’s politics? Turning a blind eye to Rooney’s politics runs the risk of alienating half the country. But, the evidence shows that it hasn’t. So why the worry over Rush?

Fed45 on October 15, 2009 at 12:13 PM

Wait until Condi Rice is the NFL Commisioner. Then you’ll really see heads explode.

singer on October 15, 2009 at 12:06 PM

Is Condi a “Magic Negro” also? Just trying to get things straight. Maybe only Democrats are “Magic Negroes” I guess…

Decider on October 15, 2009 at 12:10 PM

No, but you’ll probably call her an “Auntie Thomasina”.

singer on October 15, 2009 at 12:16 PM

From the irony dept: Roger Goodell is married to Fox News’ Jane Skinner. If Barry and the world really believes FoxNews is a vessel for the Republican Party, Goodell might be sleeping on the couch for a very long time if he lobbies to block Rush’s ownership bid. ;-)

Fed45 on October 15, 2009 at 12:17 PM

StoneKrab on October 15, 2009 at 10:43 AM, etc.

What about the black comedians that have made it big on black jokes?
I can remember two that were well before your time, bud!
You look bright enough to do the research.
At 26 years, you show articulation not too common in today’s education system.
You’ve had someone in your past that has inspired your ability for cogent communication.
[I'm a part time tea leaf reader.]

Cybergeezer on October 15, 2009 at 12:19 PM

Well, there you have it. Rush just said that the union leader is going to bring Obama into the collective bargaining agreement. Was I right or what? Another business taken over by the Obama.

silvernana on October 15, 2009 at 12:19 PM

Just another example of how this Cold War between those on the Right and those who are Wrong has turned-up a degree. Arguing with Useful Idiots like Decider serves no purpose but increasing the level of his bleeding ulcer… reason enough. The Left has completely lost the right to cry Racism… Ever Again.

ronnyraygun on October 15, 2009 at 12:20 PM

It took Rush 10 minutes of twists and turns to blame “The Magic Negro” for the Rams Investment group dropping him. I can not even piece it back together how he got there.

Decider on October 15, 2009 at 12:24 PM

Tom_Shipley on October 15, 2009 at 9:54 AM

Okay Tom . . .

As someone who has been listening to Rush’s show for 3+ years I’ll put it bluntly — you have no idea what you’re talking about! Instead of taking a few two-second sound bites edited together, and garnished with the words of a MSNBC hack that can’t be bothered to investigate the facts, you can do us all a favor and shop for a brain.

Ryan Gandy on October 15, 2009 at 12:25 PM

Decider on October 15, 2009 at 12:24 PM

Well, you must not be too smart, because it wasn’t that difficult.

BetseyRoss on October 15, 2009 at 12:26 PM

StoneKrab on October 15, 2009 at 10:43 AM, etc.

So; Tell me; Are you really working in the stone crab industry? Because, the stone crab season opens today, and you are spending a lot of time on your computer this morning. Trying to instigate a stone crab shortage?

Cybergeezer on October 15, 2009 at 12:26 PM

Let this show you that if you want to participate in certain industries and have the money to do so you must be a moderate or liberal. Conservatives are no longer welcome in the new United Socialist States of America. If you have dreams, don’t dream them unless you’re a lying divisive shyster like Al Sharpton or Rev. Jackson’s who calls Jewish people names. You are not allowed to participate in what is left of the American dream if you espouse any conservative views. Even Keith Olbermann gets that and understands who disturbing this is. The EEOC has an EXCEPTION. It’s a creed called CONSERVATISM!!

Sultry Beauty on October 15, 2009 at 12:29 PM

Update: Needless to say, the next vocal liberal who tries to buy a sports franchise is going to have a hell of a time.

Dr. Evil is trying to do so with the same team.

Report: George Soros part of Checketts group, too
Posted by Mike Florio on October 15, 2009 11:38 AM ET
Maybe Dave Checketts really doesn’t want to buy the St. Louis Rams.

Why else would he have included both Rush Limbaugh and, reportedly, George Soros in the group cobbling together the money to make the purchase?

If, after all, Limbaugh is not eligible to become part owner of a team due to polarizing and divisive comments, Soros’ comparison of the Bush administration to the Nazi regime arguably merits that same outcome.

But, per Bloomberg.com, Soros is part of the Checketts group, too.

Bottom line? Checketts should have done more homework before piecing together his investment group. All he needed to do was call the league office or maybe a few owners to get a feel for whether this kind of thing would fly.

With Limbaugh now out, it’s likely only a matter of time before Soros will have to go as well. Even if the reaction to Soros’ involvement isn’t as sharp and immediate, it only takes nine of 32 “no” votes from the full league ownership to kill the deal — and there probably are at least nine Republican owners who believe that, if Limbaugh isn’t fit to own part of a team, Soros isn’t, either.

Packnic on October 15, 2009 at 12:29 PM

I can not even piece it back together how he got there.

Decider on October 15, 2009 at 12:24 PM

obviously not…maybe you’ll be able to once you graduate from grade school.

right4life on October 15, 2009 at 12:30 PM

Wait until Condi Rice is the NFL Commisioner. Then you’ll really see heads explode.

singer on October 15, 2009 at 12:06 PM

She doesn’t deserve that post. It’s beneath her.

But the Oval Office? You betcha!

Liam on October 15, 2009 at 12:33 PM

Cybergeezer on October 15, 2009 at 12:26 PM

Are we para

noid to

day?

~S~

Liam on October 15, 2009 at 12:35 PM

And one other point: Forget the GOP EVER putting up a conservative candidate. This is how we got McCain. If the media can do this to the Rush’s bid for a NFL team then they can do it to ANY conservative especially one who dares attempt to get the GOP primary nomination. It’s assured they will succeed every single time in giving us limp wristed centrist blue dog democrats as GOP representatives.

Sultry Beauty on October 15, 2009 at 12:35 PM

Soros, seriously?

jp on October 15, 2009 at 12:36 PM

Is Condi a “Magic Negro” also? Just trying to get things straight. Maybe only Democrats are “Magic Negroes” I guess…

Decider on October 15, 2009 at 12:10 PM

That wasn’t Rush’s bit. It first appeared in the LA Times (I think), and Rush’s commentary was both making fun of that skit and pointing out the double standard where no one cares about the original article and blows up when he satirizes it.

Try to be a grown up. Republicans and conservatives do plenty of things that you can mock or be pissed off about. Smearing someone as a racist without the evidence to back it up crosses a line.

BadgerHawk on October 15, 2009 at 12:37 PM

That wasn’t Rush’s bit. It first appeared in the LA Times (I think), and Rush’s commentary was both making fun of that skit and pointing out the double standard where no one cares about the original article and blows up when he satirizes it.

Try to be a grown up. Republicans and conservatives do plenty of things that you can mock or be pissed off about. Smearing someone as a racist without the evidence to back it up crosses a line.

BadgerHawk on October 15, 2009 at 12:37 PM

You’re right, it first appeared in the LA Times as an opinion piece, and was written by a black man. Rush made fun of that whole thing, for the double-standard you mentioned.

Far as I’m concerned, the piece never should have been written like that in the first place. Since it was, and made public, it’s fair game. The nature of a free press and all that.

Liam on October 15, 2009 at 12:42 PM

I disagre about the power, but I think it’s fair to say a pro athlete is getting more action than some Wall Street high roller (not that he/she isn’t doing pretty well in that category). Are pro athletes, as a group, any less moral? I don’t really know. Given our current economic problems, I think there’s a good argument that pro athletes have more role models than stockbrokers.

RightOFLeft on October 14, 2009 at 6:56 PM

What because they made some unethical deals to make them money? How is that different from pro athletes taking steroids?

Sorry, I just completely disagree here. CEOs are surely corrupt, and athletes are not as corrupt as they appear, but there’s just no evidence to support your statements that corporate millionaires are more corrupt than pro athletes.

Rush on the radio every day ticking off half the country is a distraction the league doesn’t need. If Rush did resurrect the Rams and brought them to a Super Bowl, the league wouldn’t want the game to share the spotlight.

dedalus on October 14, 2009 at 8:37 PM

Yes, and this would actually be a fair point if those who did the same from the Left were excluded as well. Consistency isn’t too much to ask for.

Yeah, the redneck states are where it’s at! You don’t even need a toothbrush!

simplesimon on October 14, 2009 at 8:42 PM

I’m so glad that calling the First Lady names can get us banned but insulting half the country with redneck jokes is quite alright.

I hope you feel good about yourself, simple. Obviously, no one else does.

Esthier on October 15, 2009 at 12:44 PM

Is Condi a “Magic Negro” also? Just trying to get things straight. Maybe only Democrats are “Magic Negroes” I guess…

Decider on October 15, 2009 at 12:10 PM

Actually “magic negro” as defined by Spike Lee says more about whites and their misconceptions than it does about blacks, so if Condi were a Democrat she might very well be a “magic negro” to you.

DFCtomm on October 15, 2009 at 12:44 PM

She doesn’t deserve that post. It’s beneath her.

But the Oval Office? You betcha!

Liam on October 15, 2009 at 12:33 PM

She’s identified it as her Dream Job.

BTW, do you think she’d surrender to Putin as have Clinton and Pantywaist?

singer on October 15, 2009 at 12:49 PM

Are we para

noid to

day?

~S~

Liam on October 15, 2009 at 12:35 PM

Very possibly “we” are; But me? No. I was communicating with “StoneKrab”.

Cybergeezer on October 15, 2009 at 12:51 PM

I hope you feel good about yourself, simple. Obviously, no one else does.

Esthier on October 15, 2009 at 12:44 PM

Simple’s the kind of guy who’s friends don’t even like to hang out with him. I can’t even imagine trying to have a face-to-face conversation.

BadgerHawk on October 15, 2009 at 12:51 PM

Dave Rywall on October 14, 2009 at 11:56 PM
Dave Rywall on October 14, 2009 at 11:56 PM
Dave Rywall on October 14, 2009 at 11:58 PM
Dave Rywall on October 14, 2009 at 11:58 PM

How f-ing pathetic of you to use made up quotes. But you don’t even care that they’re false. You just want to smear the man.

Of course, I guess Hot Air only cares about these smears if they’re directed at a man who’s made it his mission to smear this site.

Upon further review, just saw the segment on the site, they mixed in the quote using a news report and mixed it with other Rush audio. Nevermind.

LevStrauss on October 15, 2009 at 12:29 AM

Just so quick to call him a racist, Lev. No surprise there.

Esthier on October 15, 2009 at 12:53 PM

BTW, do you think she’d surrender to Putin as have Clinton and Pantywaist?

singer on October 15, 2009 at 12:49 PM

I don’t think so. She seems too poised, so self-confident she would be hard to break.

Cybergeezer on October 15, 2009 at 12:51 PM

Well, at least that time I didn’t fragment your name!

Liam on October 15, 2009 at 12:55 PM

Rush’s opening just now, incredible. The inside dope. Real news. Storylines the MSM, let alone the half-wits at ESPN, will NEVER have. (NFLPA in the hands of the WH now? Strike looming? All involved, including Rev. Al, mere pawns in the NFLPA game?) Too bad so many on the other side are afraid to listen. Just good radio.

Paraphrasing Rush: “They are trying to initmidate the NFL owners.” Phff. Nothing in the world could be easier.

curved space on October 15, 2009 at 12:55 PM

Yeah, the redneck states are where it’s at! You don’t even need a toothbrush!

simplesimon on October 14, 2009 at 8:42 PM

Say that from anywhere besides the safety of your Mom’s basement and see how many you end up with, Slappy.

hawkdriver on October 15, 2009 at 12:56 PM

She doesn’t deserve that post. It’s beneath her.

But the Oval Office? You betcha!

Liam on October 15, 2009 at 12:33 PM

I don’t know if I agree with that. I don’t know much about her personal ideology to say either way, but she is an alumni of the state department, and the next election is going to be all about the economy. It might be Forbes’s moment, if he’s still interested.

DFCtomm on October 15, 2009 at 12:56 PM

He lives his life spewing hateful and divisive comments.

Tom_Shipley343 on October 15, 2009 at 8:24 AM

I’ve been asking our resident bridge-dwellers here to provide credible and multi-sourced cites of these alleged comments Rush has made. Been asking on this thread since last night, as a matter of fact. No one has responded.

Where are they?

Del Dolemonte on October 15, 2009 at 12:57 PM

$694 Billion and no bin Laden – no WMDs. Nothing. Because of that stammering fool, it’s 8 years of party time! Enjoy, race fan!

simplesimon on October 15, 2009 at 8:16 AM

So now you’re upset about wasted billions? Where the hell where you when Obama wasted over a trillion with nothing to show for it? It’s OK, though, he’s not done wasting it yet.

There’s still time for you to stop being a hypocrite.

If Olberman wanted to get in on a group trying to buy a team, you wouldn’t get this reaction. I mean, now you’d get the wingnuts jumping up and down throwing feces all over the place, but I think in the overall population of the NFL and country, there wouldn’t be the resistance. He’s able to go on NBC and have a good time with the sport. Rush went on ESPN and had to be an asshole. That’s the difference. Rush is an asshole.

Tom_Shipley on October 15, 2009 at 8:24 AM

So Keith going on NBC and bringing politics into a football discussion, maligning Republicans in the process, that’s not being an a-hole, but it somehow is when a Righty points out the Left’s obsession with race?

I don’t even know who’s @ss your head’s up in right now, but it’s up there good and tight.

Esthier on October 15, 2009 at 12:58 PM

Where are they?
Del Dolemonte on October 15, 2009 at 12:57 PM

Like anybody with half a brain knows, these quotes don’t exist, Del. Btw, Rush’s buddy Hutch, the black Preacher ex-NFL player just called in and told him not to take this garbage.

kingsjester on October 15, 2009 at 1:00 PM

the former male cheerleader invaded the wrong country in 2003.

simple343 on October 15, 2009 at 8:37 AM

Really? It was your party that claimed Iraq had WMDs in 1998, and your party whose Justice Department directly tied bin Laden and Iraq together when they indicted bib Laden the same year.

BTW the invasion of Iraq was signed off on by your party too.

As usual, epic FAIL. Now run off to pre-school, before you’re late again.

Del Dolemonte on October 15, 2009 at 1:01 PM

Simple’s the kind of guy who’s friends don’t even like to hang out with him. I can’t even imagine trying to have a face-to-face conversation.

BadgerHawk on October 15, 2009 at 12:51 PM

He’s likely the tag along they try to ditch. It would explain his constant need of attention.

Esthier on October 15, 2009 at 1:02 PM

700+ comments and zero proof of racism. Good job libs!

daesleeper on October 15, 2009 at 1:05 PM

The Black people you are referring to are the players that refused to play for someone who says things like, “the government has been taking care of young blacks all their lives”.

StoneKrab343 on October 15, 2009 at 9:45 AM

Credible, multi-sourced cites for the quote you provided, please.

Del Dolemonte on October 15, 2009 at 1:05 PM

DFCtomm on October 15, 2009 at 12:56 PM

I don’t fully know her ideology, either. But she stayed with Bush a long time, first as NS adviser and later SecState. So she’s certainly no off-the-wall liberal.

She holds a Doctorate, and those things aren’t just handed out. A candidate has to write a thesis based on hands-on research, then defend the paper before a board of peers.

She has eight years with a President’s ear, including national security and diplomacy as a member of the Cabinet. By any standard, those are impressive credentials. In my view, they top being a Senator for 18 years by miles.

Dr. Rice may not know everything, but she seems smart enough to be sure she has what she needs to get a good job done.

Liam on October 15, 2009 at 1:07 PM

Liam on October 15, 2009 at 1:07 PM

I don’t ever want her to run. What they did to Palin is disgusting enough. What they would do to a black woman would be even worse.

Esthier on October 15, 2009 at 1:08 PM

Yes, and this would actually be a fair point if those who did the same from the Left were excluded as well. Consistency isn’t too much to ask for.

Esthier on October 15, 2009 at 12:44 PM

The consistency might be found in the NFL wanting to manage its brand, and political divisiveness (especially relating to racial issues) distracting from its entertainment offering. Revenue growth is the altar they worship at.

There aren’t many vocal lefties among the current league ownership, but if there were a left-wing version of Rush (and it is difficult to find one as influential and successful) the league would likely look to avoid the controversy (especially if the lefty attacked core values such as religion or national defense).

dedalus on October 15, 2009 at 1:09 PM

Oh yeah, and when the consortium lost its required 30 percent participant (required ny NFL rules) they found a replacement, who MIGHT have been, Rush speculates…George Soros!

curved space on October 15, 2009 at 1:10 PM

700+ comments and zero proof of racism. Good job libs!

daesleeper on October 15, 2009 at 1:05 PM

Lol.

I don’t even know who’s @ss your head’s up in right now, but it’s up there good and tight.

Esthier on October 15, 2009 at 12:58 PM

You’re fired up today.

BadgerHawk on October 15, 2009 at 1:10 PM

Rush spews ridicule, hatred, division, and racism 3 hours a day/5 days week.

Decider343 on October 15, 2009 at 11:56 AM

I asked you last night on this thread to prove your allegations with credible, multi-sourced cites, and you still haven’t done so. As you are the one accusing him of those things, the burden of proof is on you to prove he actually does what you have claimed.

So where are the cites?

Del Dolemonte on October 15, 2009 at 1:11 PM

So; Tell me; Are you really working in the stone crab industry? Because, the stone crab season opens today, and you are spending a lot of time on your computer this morning. Trying to instigate a stone crab shortage?

Cybergeezer on October 15, 2009 at 12:26 PM

Lol, no this name means something entirely different in which I am very proud of.

What do you consider yourself politically? Do you think of yourself as conservative? I’m asking because I don’t see that much ideological ground between our viewpoints. If you don’t consider yourself conservative then what part of our ideology do you disagree with?

DFCtomm on October 15, 2009 at 12:09 PM

I’m more liberal when it comes to people’s personal freedoms. However, I’m much more conservative in matters of economic policies. I’m probably more liberal than anything though. I don’t have a particular beef with conservatism or conservative ideology, however, I do believe that religion plays too large of a role in that ideology, particularly the Christian faith. The way it’s presented at times tends to isolate other faiths; also it is often used as a club by the far right to demonize gays and push policies such as anti-gay marriage legislation. I’m not with that. I want everyone to have equal rights regardless of who they choose to fall in love with. Marriage should be between one human being and another human being, IMO. Like I said, I’m more liberal on social issues, but I’m conservative when it comes to the economy. I don’t like high taxes, bail-outs, entitlements; basically government spending, if any, should be limited and only done if albsolutely necessary considering the situation we are in at this moment.

What about the black comedians that have made it big on black jokes?
I can remember two that were well before your time, bud!
You look bright enough to do the research.
At 26 years, you show articulation not too common in today’s education system.
You’ve had someone in your past that has inspired your ability for cogent communication.
[I'm a part time tea leaf reader.]

Cybergeezer on October 15, 2009 at 12:19 PM

Richard Pryor was very edgy, but my mother loved him. I don’t think you can equate a comedian with a talk radio personality. It’s not the same field of entertainment. Comedians tell jokes and get paid to do so; in most cases they wouldn’t be as funny if they weren’t a little edgy, i.e. Andrew Dice Clay, Eddie Murphy, Dave Chappelle. Rush never was and never will be in the same category as a stand-up comic. He talks about politics and somehow manages to make a living while doing so, a very comfortable living if I might add. Apples and Oranges my friend.

StoneKrab on October 15, 2009 at 1:12 PM

Surprising…I heard the beginning of Rush’s program today. He opened by stating, “I have lost nothing”. It’s apparent that he’s not going to claims damages as a result of being kicked out of the Rams deal. There must be a strategy, but I can’t figure out what it is.

orlandocajun on October 15, 2009 at 1:13 PM

Like anybody with half a brain knows, these quotes don’t exist, Del.

kingsjester on October 15, 2009 at 1:00 PM

I know. If they did exist, one of our cellar-dwellers here would have given us credible and multi-sourced proof. So far, 0 for 700+ posts.

C’mon, kiddies. Prove your accusations. We’re still waiting!

Del Dolemonte on October 15, 2009 at 1:17 PM

Esthier on October 15, 2009 at 1:08 PM

I have to agree with you on that, to a point. What was done to Dr. Rice in the first place was bad enough, and she sucked it up without losing a whit of her incredible poise.

Maybe, though, she’s what this country needs? To be a badass, she could always throw the race card back at libs. How DARE Dems attack a black woman? Are they racists?

If Dr. Rice ran, she could trash entire mantras of Leftist hate and rhetoric; she’d practically put them in stasis.

I’m torn, really. I think America needs Dr. Rice in the White House. But I also don’t want to her shredded like the Left would do to her. She doesn’t deserve that kind of awful, hateful thing.

Liam on October 15, 2009 at 1:18 PM

StoneKrab on October 15, 2009 at 1:12 PM

You sound like a libertarian. I’m kind of amazed how libertarians will vote regularly for Democrats because of social issues, when economic issues clearly have more impact on their individual lives (not to mention the lives of their kids, born yet or not).

BadgerHawk on October 15, 2009 at 1:19 PM

StoneKrab on October 15, 2009 at 1:12 PM

Coolness, you’re still around! How goes your day?

Thanks for a delightful conversation this morning. I very much enjoyed it!

Regards,
Liam

Liam on October 15, 2009 at 1:20 PM

700+ comments and zero proof of racism. Good job libs!

daesleeper on October 15, 2009 at 1:05 PM

One of them was so idiotic they tried citing as “proof” a blog post from Puffington Host, that repeatedly used Soros’ error-riddled “site” Media Matters as its “source”.

Laughed so hard I almost choked on my haggis.

Del Dolemonte on October 15, 2009 at 1:21 PM

I don’t ever want her to run. What they did to Palin is disgusting enough. What they would do to a black woman would be even worse.

Esthier on October 15, 2009 at 1:08 PM

Yea that would be bad they might:

-Call her a “Magic Negro”
-A “Terrorist Muslim”
-Not born in the US
-A Communist
-A Racist (even though her family may have White members)
-A Socialist
-Compare her to Zimbabwe President Robert Mugabe
-A Marxist

You are right. All that would be bad.

Decider on October 15, 2009 at 1:21 PM

“the government has been taking care of young blacks all their lives”.

I’ll give you one source that actually has the audio so you can hear him say it for yourself. Yes, the evil media-matters.

StoneKrab on October 15, 2009 at 1:22 PM

There aren’t many vocal lefties among the current league ownership, but if there were a left-wing version of Rush (and it is difficult to find one as influential and successful) the league would likely look to avoid the controversy (especially if the lefty attacked core values such as religion or national defense).

dedalus on October 15, 2009 at 1:09 PM

Keith Olberman.

You’re fired up today.

BadgerHawk on October 15, 2009 at 1:10 PM

It’s not right that people should be attacked for their political speech. Why would anyone ever want to speak out knowing what will happen to them? It’s repulsive.

Esthier on October 15, 2009 at 1:24 PM

It’s disappointing to me that Rush is going to take the “high ground” as that always works so well for conservatives. He has a chance to strike a blow for conservatism and against the scumbag media and he refuses to take it. That diminishes him for me because he talks big against them but doesn’t take the opportunity to strike a blow for all of us.

silvernana on October 15, 2009 at 1:27 PM

Decider on October 15, 2009 at 1:21 PM

Believe it or not, those invectives you listed would come from Democrats.

Tell me, if you please, would you vote for Condi Rice if she ran on a Republican ticket for any office either local, state, or Federal?

Liam on October 15, 2009 at 1:29 PM

Coolness, you’re still around! How goes your day?

Thanks for a delightful conversation this morning. I very much enjoyed it!

Regards,
Liam

Liam on October 15, 2009 at 1:20 PM

Same. I have to go now, the DMV is calling, lol. My temporary plates expire like TODAY, but thankfully Call-A-Rad-Ho (CO) has a 30 day grace period. I think I still have to pay a 25 dollar fine, but as long as I’m ridin’ legit it’s okay. I’m going on 26 years with no arrests and no tickets, lol! I’ll be back later. Cheers!

StoneKrab on October 15, 2009 at 1:31 PM

It’s not right that people should be attacked for their political speech. Why would anyone ever want to speak out knowing what will happen to them? It’s repulsive.

Esthier on October 15, 2009 at 1:24 PM

The thing that gets me is CNN/MSNBC/ESPN and local stations across the country running unsourced and unverified ‘quotes’ as fact. It clearly crosses an ethical and journalistic line, far beyond manipulating poll data to reflect what you want to show, or burying bad news several paragraphs down a story.

It’s an absolutely shameful thing to do, no matter who it’s being done to.

I was never onboard with Rush buying into the Rams, but I really want him to sue so this kind of thing doesn’t set a precedent.

Decider on October 15, 2009 at 1:21 PM

As was already pointed out, the ‘Magic Negro’ bit was first done by the LA Times. Rush satirized it to show the double standard.

And I’ve never compared him to Mugabe, but I think that has to do with his fiscal policy turning us into Zimbabwe, at least from the explainations I’ve seen.

“the government has been taking care of young blacks all their lives”.

StoneKrab on October 15, 2009 at 1:22 PM

Please explain how that’s a racist statement.

BadgerHawk on October 15, 2009 at 1:31 PM

It’s not right that people should be attacked for their political speech. Why would anyone ever want to speak out knowing what will happen to them? It’s repulsive.

Esthier on October 15, 2009 at 1:24 PM

Yes, it’s repulsive what goes on. Still, I’ll speak out even if facing a firing squad. I refuse to be stifled, though I won’t ever get into politics again.

One time, in my community, I got involved in a small issue. The matter escalated to things you wouldn’t believe, so I walked away. I learned, the hard way, politics is best left to politicians, and I’m no politician. Still, long as God gives me a voice, I’m going to speak where I find prudence to do so.

That’s me–I’m a rebel at heart.

Liam on October 15, 2009 at 1:34 PM

Del Dolemonte on October 15, 2009 at 1:17 PM

Then you’ll be waiting a long time.

Asking for concrete reasoning from a lefty is like asking Ahmadinejad to compile a ViewMaster reel of Muhammad.

Ryan Gandy on October 15, 2009 at 1:34 PM

It’s disappointing to me that Rush is going to take the “high ground” as that always works so well for conservatives. He has a chance to strike a blow for conservatism and against the scumbag media and he refuses to take it. That diminishes him for me because he talks big against them but doesn’t take the opportunity to strike a blow for all of us.

silvernana on October 15, 2009 at 1:27 PM

Do tell what part of “Conservatism” states that calling the President of the United States a “Magic Negro” and NFL Players “Bloods and Crips” Is that from the Heritage Foundation?

What part of “Conservatism” states that when kids fight you spin it to mean they are fighting because of the “Magic Negro” President?

I don’t recall that in the charter. Do you have a link to where in the “Conservative” charter that explicit references to race is called for. I did a google search on “Heritage Foundation” and “Magic Negro” and came up with zero references.

Limbaugh was not turned down because he is a Conservative. He was turned down because he is a race peddler who uses race to make a lot of money.

Decider on October 15, 2009 at 1:35 PM

Tell me, if you please, would you vote for Condi Rice if she ran on a Republican ticket for any office either local, state, or Federal?

Liam on October 15, 2009 at 1:29 PM

Only if she could show a birth certificate. I don’t think she was born in the US.

Decider on October 15, 2009 at 1:37 PM

Decider,

How many times do we have to say, he was not calling ANYONE a “Magic Negro.”

Ryan Gandy on October 15, 2009 at 1:37 PM

Esthier on October 15, 2009 at 1:24 PM

Olbermann is a level removed from the league. I’m still surprised NBC uses such a polarizing figure for its sports programming.

If enough people protest Olbermann, he’ll be gone. If he says something that conflicts with the NFL image–regarding women, religion, race. It would happen quickly.

dedalus on October 15, 2009 at 1:38 PM

turned down because he is a race peddler who uses race to make a lot of money.

Sharpton and Jackson described to a T…as the ‘Hutch’ put it…the poverty pimps.

TheVer on October 15, 2009 at 1:38 PM

Decider on October 15, 2009 at 1:35 PM

You’re being incredibly dishonest, especially by continuing to ‘peddle’ the Magic Negro bit after it’s been pointed out that it wasn’t Limbaugh who created it. Try to argue like a grown up.

BadgerHawk on October 15, 2009 at 1:39 PM

Ryan Gandy on October 15, 2009 at 1:37 PM

Ryan, he doesn’t care. He thinks if he keeps running off at the mouth telling these lies, they’ll actually magically become true. He doesn’t have the intelligence or fortitude to cite his sources.

kingsjester on October 15, 2009 at 1:39 PM

Decider on October 15, 2009 at 1:37 PM

Now you’re simply being obtuse. Work with me, would you?

I, for one, accept Obama was born in the US. The evidence is there and, as a conservative, I think the ‘birthers’ are full of She-at

Liam on October 15, 2009 at 1:41 PM

-Call her a “Magic Negro”

You’re an idiot if you believe that originated with the Right. It didn’t.

-A “Terrorist Muslim”

No, but they would call her a house n*gga.

-Not born in the US

How is this even a insult? His father is Kenyan, and Dems did the same thing to McCain.

-A Communist

So are you also bothered when Michael Moore says the same of Obama?

-A Racist (even though her family may have White members)

Of course she wouldn’t be accused of racism against white people. She’s already been accused of racism against blacks.

-A Socialist

Again, does it bother you when Moore does the same?

-Compare her to Zimbabwe President Robert Mugabe

What, is it better if she’s compared to Hitler?

-A Marxist

Gee, you really got some mileage out of those three.

Esthier on October 15, 2009 at 1:42 PM

You’re being incredibly dishonest, especially by continuing to ‘peddle’ the Magic Negro bit after it’s been pointed out that it wasn’t Limbaugh who created it. Try to argue like a grown up.

BadgerHawk on October 15, 2009 at 1:39 PM

No, no, no. Limbaugh does not get to pick and chose what material he conveniently wants to forget. Rush Limbaugh created a song with these specific words. I know he wants to try to deny it now a be a member of regular society but he can not have it both ways.

“Magic Negro” was meant to be controversial and increase his ratings. He has to live with it.

Decider on October 15, 2009 at 1:43 PM

You are right. All that would be bad.

Decider on October 15, 2009 at 1:21 PM

No, that’s not bad.

These are:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_-qlPR6Lgp9Q/R_qSSodLIQI/AAAAAAAABPw/0Ts5J2ej-p0/s400/condoleezza.jpg
http://americandigest.org/mt-archives/002864.php
http://mhking.mu.nu/archives/049887.php
http://www.fugly.com/media/IMAGES/Funny/condi_whitey.jpg

And I have so much more.

Esthier on October 15, 2009 at 1:44 PM

You are right. All that would be bad.

Decider on October 15, 2009 at 1:21 PM

No, that’s not bad.

These are:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_-qlPR6Lgp9Q/R_qSSodLIQI/AAAAAAAABPw/0Ts5J2ej-p0/s400/condoleezza.jpg
http://americandigest.org/mt-archives/002864.php

Esthier on October 15, 2009 at 1:44 PM

Decider on October 15, 2009 at 1:35 PM

Guess you guys don’t see what he is doing. Why bother with him, he is from the side that supports drugging, raping, sodomizing young girls. Pretty sure that is part of “Liberalism”. I am sure it is in the charter.

We are beyond debate, see you in my iron sights some day soon!

*kisses*

ClassicCon on October 15, 2009 at 1:44 PM

These are:

http://mhking.mu.nu/archives/049887.php
http://www.fugly.com/media/IMAGES/Funny/condi_whitey.jpg

And I have so much more.

Esthier on October 15, 2009 at 1:45 PM

“Magic Negro” was meant to be controversial and increase his ratings. He has to live with it.

Decider on October 15, 2009 at 1:43 PM

Did he introduce the phrase or not you lying sack of sheet?

ClassicCon on October 15, 2009 at 1:45 PM

It’s an absolutely shameful thing to do, no matter who it’s being done to.

I was never onboard with Rush buying into the Rams, but I really want him to sue so this kind of thing doesn’t set a precedent.

BadgerHawk on October 15, 2009 at 1:31 PM

I completely agree with both.

That’s me–I’m a rebel at heart.

Liam on October 15, 2009 at 1:34 PM

It’s not me.

If enough people protest Olbermann, he’ll be gone. If he says something that conflicts with the NFL image–regarding women, religion, race. It would happen quickly.

dedalus on October 15, 2009 at 1:38 PM

I doubt it.

Esthier on October 15, 2009 at 1:45 PM

Limbaugh was not turned down because he is a Conservative. He was turned down because he is a race peddler who uses race to make a lot of money.

Decider343 on October 15, 2009 at 1:35 PM

You say he’s racist, but you still haven’t PROVEN IT.

Please do so.

Del Dolemonte on October 15, 2009 at 1:46 PM

No, no, no. Limbaugh does not get to pick and chose what material he conveniently wants to forget. Rush Limbaugh created a song with these specific words. I know he wants to try to deny it now a be a member of regular society but he can not have it both ways.

Decider on October 15, 2009 at 1:43 PM

Try reading for once. He’s never denied making the song. You’re just too much of a selective reader to understand what the hell the song was about and too unbelievably arrogant to realize you don’t get it.

And you also seem to have no clue that “Magic Negro” didn’t originate with the song.

Esthier on October 15, 2009 at 1:47 PM

StoneKrab

What’s your opinion of Ward Connerly?

Cybergeezer on October 15, 2009 at 1:47 PM

Limbaugh does not get to pick and chose what material he conveniently wants to forget.

Decider343 on October 15, 2009 at 1:43 PM

Why not? You do it all the time.

Now once again, please prove Limbaugh is racist, with credible and multi-courced cites and quotes.

Del Dolemonte on October 15, 2009 at 1:48 PM

Decider on October 15, 2009 at 1:43 PM

Excerpt from Obama the ‘Magic Negro’ in the LA Times
The Illinois senator lends himself to white America’s idealized, less-than-real black man.
By David Ehrenstein

AS EVERY CARBON-BASED life form on this planet surely knows, Barack Obama, the junior Democratic senator from Illinois, is running for president. Since making his announcement, there has been no end of commentary about him in all quarters — musing over his charisma and the prospect he offers of being the first African American to be elected to the White House.

But it’s clear that Obama also is running for an equally important unelected office, in the province of the popular imagination — the “Magic Negro.”

The Magic Negro is a figure of postmodern folk culture, coined by snarky 20th century sociologists, to explain a cultural figure who emerged in the wake of Brown vs. Board of Education. “He has no past, he simply appears one day to help the white protagonist,” reads the description on Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_Negro .

kingsjester on October 15, 2009 at 1:49 PM

The reference to “Magic Negro” originated not with Paul Shanklin, who wrote the song, but with a Leftist LA Times columnist. Here ’tis.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-ehrenstein19mar19,0,3391015.story

Del Dolemonte on October 15, 2009 at 1:51 PM

White Man Can’t Jump… Black Man Can’t Drive. One of those phrases can get you fired if you say it at the wrong time in the wrong place. It only proves how hypocritical the Left has become and how they turned one certain group into a bunch of Childish Cry Babies. And as far as the “N” word goes. Either everybody can say it or nobody can say it. This is America. Disagree? Go F**K yourself!

ronnyraygun on October 15, 2009 at 1:52 PM

Del Dolemonte on October 15, 2009 at 1:51 PM

Great minds, Del. LOL

kingsjester on October 15, 2009 at 1:52 PM

Guys the kid knows full well where the phrase first originated. Because the little lefty douches can no longer fabricate outrage over the phony quotes they originally attributed to him, they have to now fabricate outrage by quoting a phrase he did in fact say, but present it wildly out of context. It is all they have, so he is pushing it hard to try and make it stick.

Don’t bother with the child. He is still butthurt his dad slid off his mother and walked out the door forever.

ClassicCon on October 15, 2009 at 1:54 PM

Origin of reference to obama as the “Magic Negro”.

Commenter’s here who continue to apply racism to Limbaugh’s satire of the article itself are just disingenuous.

hawkdriver on October 15, 2009 at 1:54 PM

Esthier on October 15, 2009 at 1:45 PM

Gotta have a little faith, hon. I trust no politician, but I believe there is a handful of better people in politics who can rise above the politics. Dr. Rice seems one of them.

I’d love seeing her as a candidate, though the personal cost to her would be excessive. Like I said earlier, I’m torn between my respect for her and the needs of America.

But, in the end, Dr. Rice is what the country needs and I love my country above my own life. I have two children, their spouses, and two granddaughters. If my country survives for the better, they profit to my everlasting joy.

I believe Dr. Rice, or someone like her, is what America needs. Only she, however, can make that choice for her life.

Liam on October 15, 2009 at 1:54 PM

“Magic Negro” was meant to be controversial and increase his ratings. He has to live with it.

Decider on October 15, 2009 at 1:43 PM

Again, you continue to to ignore that Limbaugh didn’t create the ‘Magic Negro’ line. It’s dishonest and shows a gaping intellectual hole in your argument.

If you want to treated like an adult in these argument (most of the commenters here will treat you like an adult) you have to act like one. You don’t get to grossly distort facts and completely ignore ones that don’t help your argument.

Facts are stubborn things, and if you can’t argue with them you’ve already lost.

BadgerHawk on October 15, 2009 at 1:54 PM

The reference to “Magic Negro” originated not with Paul Shanklin, who wrote the song, but with a Leftist LA Times columnist. Here ’tis.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-ehrenstein19mar19,0,3391015.story

Del Dolemonte on October 15, 2009 at 1:51 PM

So that justifies Limbaugh? Again, what part of “Conservatism” does that fall under?

Decider on October 15, 2009 at 1:55 PM

So that justifies Limbaugh? Again, what part of “Conservatism” does that fall under?

Decider on October 15, 2009 at 1:55 PM

Falls under the part where we make fun of leftists for being the hypocritical kid rapers they are.

ClassicCon on October 15, 2009 at 1:59 PM

So that justifies Limbaugh? Again, what part of “Conservatism” does that fall under?

Decider on October 15, 2009 at 1:55 PM

Actually, it falls under Alinsky: Ridicule the enemy.

BTW–would you vote for Condi Rice if she ran as a Republican?

Liam on October 15, 2009 at 1:59 PM

Say that from anywhere besides the safety of your Mom’s basement and see how many you end up with, Slappy.

hawkdriver on October 15, 2009 at 12:56 PM

You’re such an angry zero. Go back to Erie.

simplesimon on October 15, 2009 at 2:00 PM

racism
ageism

both used during the 2008 campaign, yet one was conveniently ignored and one was celebrated. I see -ism’s everywhere, yet only one makes the left jubilant.

Ris4victory on October 15, 2009 at 2:02 PM

Decider on October 15, 2009 at 1:55 PM

At the time, Sharpton, Jackson and others were criticizing Obama for not being authentically “Black” because his background was not as legitimate as theirs. Rush was poking fun at the situation.

kingsjester on October 15, 2009 at 2:02 PM

oh, BTW – hey simply tampon!! feeling squishy & bloated today??

Ris4victory on October 15, 2009 at 2:03 PM

Go back to Erie.

simplesimon on October 15, 2009 at 2:00 PM

What part of Afghanistan is that in?

BadgerHawk on October 15, 2009 at 2:03 PM

You’re such an angry zero. Go back to Erie.

simplesimon on October 15, 2009 at 2:00 PM

Any luck finding your dad yet? Check the local prisons.

ClassicCon on October 15, 2009 at 2:04 PM

You’re such an angry zero. Go back to Erie.
simplesimon on October 15, 2009 at 2:00 PM

And you are worthless, Skippy. Hawkdriver is putting his life on the line to protect your right to be ignorant on this website. Lunchtime is over. Go back to class.

kingsjester on October 15, 2009 at 2:05 PM

So that justifies Limbaugh? Again, what part of “Conservatism” does that fall under?

Decider on October 15, 2009 at 1:55 PM

Wait, are you honestly saying that Limbaugh satirizing a column written by a leftist in the LA Times is indicative of the racism in the conservative movement?

Because then you’d have to consider the entire progressive movement racist for their portrayals of Rice and Clarence Thomas, or even because of the original ‘Magic Negro’ column in the LA Times. After all, if ‘Magic Negro’ is racist when Rush uses it, surely it’s racist when used in the original context.

I don’t think that’s a point you’d be willing to concede, so maybe you should stop trying to apply it to one side only.

BadgerHawk on October 15, 2009 at 2:06 PM

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