Video: 6-year-old faces 45 days in reform school

posted at 10:12 am on October 13, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Zero tolerance policies do nothing but allow schools and school districts a way to avoid using proper judgment in settling issues on campuses. If one needed any more proof of this, look no further than the six-year-old boy who may spend 45 days in reform school for bringing a Cub Scout camping utensil tool to school. Yes, it contains a knife … and a fork … and a spoon:

The New York Times asked the salient question this weekend:

Spurred in part by the Columbine and Virginia Tech shootings, many school districts around the country adopted zero-tolerance policies on the possession of weapons on school grounds. More recently, there has been growing debate over whether the policies have gone too far.

But, based on the code of conduct for the Christina School District, where Zachary is a first grader, school officials had no choice. They had to suspend him because, “regardless of possessor’s intent,” knives are banned.

But the question on the minds of residents here is: Why do school officials not have more discretion in such cases?

“Zachary wears a suit and tie some days to school by his own choice because he takes school so seriously,” said Debbie Christie, Zachary’s mother, who started a Web site, helpzachary.com, in hopes of recruiting supporters to pressure the local school board at its next open meeting on Tuesday. “He is not some sort of threat to his classmates.”

Still, some school administrators argue that it is difficult to distinguish innocent pranks and mistakes from more serious threats, and that the policies must be strict to protect students.

Well, here’s the first problem. Policies don’t protect children; teachers and administrators protect children at school. It’s almost as if the districts use their policies as totems or charms, thinking that if they wave them at everybody, they’ll all be safe without having to take responsibility for using judgment in applying them. It’s the new bureaucratic superstition, and it leads to absurdities such as tossing a six-year-old into reform school for taking his new Cub Scout accessory to school.

Real security requires judgment and adults willing to take some responsibility. At its heart, the slavish devotion to the letter of zero-tolerance policies is nothing more than passing the buck, a craven attempt at CYA while posing as defenders of children. There is a vast qualitative difference between a child who brings a Cub Scout utensil and another who waves a switchblade at other kids, and to treat them the same is not just insane, it’s counterproductive to the end goal of school safety.

The school board meets tonight at 7:30 pm in the Christina School District in Newark, Delaware. Hopefully the Christies get plenty of support from their community and stop the assignment of Zacahary to a reform school for nine weeks.

Update: Radio Vice Online highlights another case of Zero Tolerance/Zero Sense.

Update II: There is a website for Zachary’s supporters to express their outrage over this ridiculous decision, HelpZachary.com.


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The one thing I remember from the whole affair is some idiot local politician actually saying that they were going to have to consider restricting the sales of these machetes to prevent these kinds of crime.

Oldnuke on October 13, 2009 at 1:22 PM

Well why do we need to wait for some local politician weigh in on this issue. We’ve got a Chief Executive that has already opined about DC Public Schools closing for snow, the Cambridge PD arresting an irrational racist, and a slew of other issues. Let’s just ask Obama if the “schoo” acted stupidly or if Zach Christie needs to be sentenced to 1-5 years in prison with no chance of parole.

highhopes on October 13, 2009 at 1:30 PM

Wyznowski on October 13, 2009 at 11:48 AM

Read:

right2bright on October 13, 2009 at 1:28 PM

right2bright on October 13, 2009 at 1:31 PM

Hey, this looks like it’s the same kid in the YouTube video, stoned in the back seat of his dad’s car coming home from the dentist. First it’s the laughing gas, next it’s packing heat at school…stop him now before he starts passing notes in class.

PatMac on October 13, 2009 at 1:34 PM

Poor kid. He’s going to be considered a criminal just because he was too thrilled about being a Cub Scout and brought one of his tools to school.

Yet another reason to private or homeschool your child…

And to that kid’s family: get the heck out of NJ. Texas will be most welcome to your child… and to you. Plus, you don’t have to be taxed to death here.

newton on October 13, 2009 at 1:35 PM

highhopes on October 13, 2009 at 1:30 PM

You feeling under the weather today? You actually used Obama instead of ‘the filthy liar’. What’s up?

Oldnuke on October 13, 2009 at 1:38 PM

This sort of sounds like something right out of a Simpson’s episode. Only in that one, Bart Simpson joins the Junior Campers so he can get out of Mrs Krebapple’s class. The bonus was getting a Junior Camper swiss army knife after completing some assignments.

Zero tolerance should be called what it really is – Intolerance.

I hope this kid gets exonerated and that the school board and school adminstrators are roundly ridiculed for the jackasses they are.

CatchAll on October 13, 2009 at 1:39 PM

The appropriate response: The teacher takes it away, gives it to mom and dad, and asks his parents not to let their son bring it to school again.

Mr. Joe on October 13, 2009 at 10:15 AM

Happened this way ten years ago with my son in another public school district in Delaware. I guess school authorities were allowed more discretion then.

ya2daup on October 13, 2009 at 1:49 PM

Going for Gold in the Imbecility Olympics.

unwashed minion on October 13, 2009 at 1:55 PM

I eat dinner with elementary teachers weekly. I’m often amazed by the lack of principle and backbone.

BTW, they are all terribly sweet.

But stand up for principle?

Heck, that’s really not the qualities that most Elementary Ed teachers have. They are all about nuturing and get very baffled quickly when they have to make a real decision.

They are sweet. But the Helicopter Moms have them scared.

AnninCA on October 13, 2009 at 1:59 PM

Having a 6 year old learn to honor agreements and watch where he puts a knife is no disgrace.

Chris_Balsz on October 13, 2009 at 10:28 AM

No sir….TEACHING a 6 yr old to honor agreements is no disgrace. Punishing him for acting like a 6 yr old IS a disgrace.

Fighton03 on October 13, 2009 at 1:59 PM

What would you expect from a government school run by Postal Service rejects?

Dave R. on October 13, 2009 at 2:00 PM

I still have a pencil tip embedded in my palm from 8th grade.

I think I have PTSD from that incident.

Where’s my award of damages for pain and suffering?

Where’s my government assistance?

The world would be such a utopia now if they had banned pencils a long time ago.

And for the clueless: //sarc.

ZenDraken on October 13, 2009 at 2:02 PM

What would you expect from a government school run by Postal Service rejects?

Dave R. on October 13, 2009 at 2:00 PM

Dave, my walking buddy every other day is a “helicopter mom.”

Seriously, she has her child in hockey and I’d say 30% of her complaints are about how her “boy” gets hurt.

I did finally venture that hockey is a contact sport.

*jeesh*

Parents today are ridiculous. They run to the principal if their kid is tripped on the playground.

AnninCA on October 13, 2009 at 2:03 PM

Zero tolerance policies do nothing but allow schools and school districts a way to avoid using proper judgment in settling issues on campuses…Real security requires judgment and adults willing to take some responsibility.”

Exactly correct.

At its heart, the slavish devotion to the letter of zero-tolerance policies is nothing more than passing the buck, a craven attempt at CYA while posing as defenders of children. There is a vast qualitative difference between a child who brings a Cub Scout utensil and another who waves a switchblade at other kids, and to treat them the same is not just insane, it’s counterproductive to the end goal of school safety.

So-called “zero-tolerance” policies are actually zero rationality and zero responsibility policies for school administrators. They are extremely popular with authoritarians and control freaks (heavily overrepresented in the population of school boards and administrators) who really enjoy exerting their authority without having to justify their conduct. Also popular with the hoplophobes.

A kid whose mom put a kitchen knife in the box with a birthday cake the kid takes to the school is simply not in the same category as the kid with a switchblade who claims he intended to use it to slice a vending machine cupcake. Treating them as equally wrongful and dangerous is not rational. The arguments for the so-called ‘zero tolerance” policies are all irrational in the sense that they serve the interests of school administrators more that they serve the interests of the students and the community. They send the utterly fallacious message that a simple misunderstanding regarding the breadth of the rule (malum prohibitum) is just as bad as intentionally violating that rule with evil intent (malum in se).

This style of idiocy is also problematic in some so-called “zero-tolerance” school rules regarding medications. It is long past time that parents stepped up and called a halt to this nonsense and demand that school administrators take the responsibility that accompanies their authority and do their jobs.

novaculus on October 13, 2009 at 2:09 PM

“The question not asked is: “Why African-Americans are suspended or expelled more often than other students when school officials are allowed to use their own judgement?”

PrettyD_Vicious on October 13, 2009 at 12:52 PM”

Another question not asked…why are our 80% of our jail population filled with African-Americans?

Another question not asked…where did you come up with that assertion?

orlandocajun on October 13, 2009 at 2:11 PM

Sorry. It is better that kids just don’t bring knives to school, than to have to argue about what they meant to do, or did, with the knife they brought. That’s what “reasonableness” will lead to–kids being threatened with knives, and all the district could “prove” is that they have a knife on them, and everybody agreed that’s no big deal.

Chris_Balsz on October 13, 2009 at 10:23 AM

Who hit who? Who started it? The punishments are all the same. Teachers and adminsitrators aren’t even required to make basic judgements about that anymore. So in essence your right, in this world of ‘no fault’ life the skills of good judgement are no longer taught. Enjoy your world, in case you wonder it looks like, Chicago is a place to start.

Fighton03 on October 13, 2009 at 2:22 PM

novaculus on October 13, 2009 at 2:09 PM

Very well written. But you see, this world you describe would require one person to make a judgment about another. EEEEVVVIIIIIIIILLLLLL!!!!

/sarc

This brings to light the circular logic and fallacy of the ‘progressive’ movement. They have spent a generation spouting “don’t judge”, but to make that statement they have to have made a judgment about someone. People judge others all the time, in everything we do. So in actuality all we have now is a generation with poor judgment skills who attempt to create policies to cover up for this lack.

Fighton03 on October 13, 2009 at 2:35 PM

I’ve said it before – there is only one weapon in this world, it sits atop your neck. Everything else is merely a tool.

We really should get on schools to ban pens, and pencils also. I still have a graphite mark on my ankle from impaling myself on a pencil in another kid’s back pocket when trying to step over him at recess. I am literally scarred for life due to this.

NavyspyII on October 13, 2009 at 2:40 PM

You feeling under the weather today? You actually used Obama instead of ‘the filthy liar’. What’s up?

Oldnuke on October 13, 2009 at 1:38 PM

Hey it is good to mix it up once in awhile. Obama is far fewer keystrokes than the usual filthy liar or filthy lying coward (usually reserved for discussions about Afghanistan). Rat bastard traitor is a good alternative as well. But, usually not Obama because that reflects respect for the man that I simply cannot muster. I respect his office but not the street thug currently infesting the White House.

highhopes on October 13, 2009 at 2:52 PM

I hope this kid gets exonerated and that the school board and school adminstrators are roundly ridiculed for the jackasses they are.

CatchAll on October 13, 2009 at 1:39 PM

These “schoo” administrators from Delaware are jackasses.

Joe Biden is from Delaware.

Therefore, Joe Biden is a Jackass. QED

Seriously, just the fact that this has made national news coverage means that they are going to cave at tonight’s meeting with some sort of a weak statement.

highhopes on October 13, 2009 at 2:58 PM

When you give your kid a knife, you must always have a serious talk about where he/she can bring it and how he/she can use it. This is how it works in my family. “Here is the safe way to whittle. Here is the safe way to hand this tool to another person. Here is the safe way to sharpen it…” and “Never, under any circumstances, bring this tool to school. Your teachers are morons and the school is basically a socialist bureaucracy that allows no independent thought.”

If the parents didn’t have this talk with the child then they are at fault. If the child disobeyed his parents then he must learn a lesson.

Sucks to go to public school.

warden on October 13, 2009 at 11:13 AM

I got a pocketknife on my sixth birthday. Nobody gave me a talk on anything, as I already had enough common sense to handle a knife by then.

Vashta.Nerada on October 13, 2009 at 3:05 PM

My child wouldn’t go to reform school, he would never darken their doorstep again.

Common Sense on October 13, 2009 at 3:28 PM

Public schools have zero value. Perhaps even negative value. If I can help it, I don’t ever want my kids darkening the steps of any of them. And the socialization argument is crap: all public schools do is institutionalize children, not socialize them.

spmat on October 13, 2009 at 3:28 PM

Dude- that kid is clearly a right-wing extremist. He could’ve… eaten pudding or something with that weapon!

We can’t have kids taking school seriously like Zachary does. He needs to realize that education is just a way to keep kids out of their parents hair until the kids are old enough to sell drugs and prostitute themselves.

hawksruleva on October 13, 2009 at 3:29 PM

Public schools have zero value. Perhaps even negative value. If I can help it, I don’t ever want my kids darkening the steps of any of them. And the socialization argument is crap: all public schools do is institutionalize children, not socialize them.

spmat on October 13, 2009 at 3:28 PM

Definitely negative value. They don’t teach the right things, and they do teach lots of wrong things. And they’re a breeding ground for disease. And school systems are a safe haven for liberal people (often laballed as “administrators”) who couldn’t survive in a real job.

hawksruleva on October 13, 2009 at 3:31 PM

My child wouldn’t go to reform school, he would never darken their doorstep again.

Common Sense on October 13, 2009 at 3:28 PM

That’s what the parents are saying. Basically if the school board doesn’t get some common sense, little Zachary will be leaving that school.

hawksruleva on October 13, 2009 at 3:31 PM

1.)Does that school’s cafeteria use real normal silverware? Spoons, FORKS, and “TABLE KNIVES”??? All of which are larger than camping utensil combos…..
2.)Do the jr. and sr. high students in that school district actually DISSECT things in biology class??

SteelGuy on October 13, 2009 at 3:39 PM

Sitting in a useless “class” given by the Nanny industry, the question was asked “What is Zero Tolerance?”

My answer (The abdication of judgment) was rejected.

mojo on October 13, 2009 at 3:48 PM

Another reason to homeschool your children!

1) Homeschoolers out perform every other form of education in scholastic achievement and performance.

2) Homeschoolers outperform every other form of education in social and interactive skills, exhibiting less violence, less combativeness, more leadership, more cooperation, better communication skills, more security and independence, etc., than their peers.

3) Homeschoolers are not spending their time in reform school or juvenile hall for bringing a birthday cake and knife to cut it from their grandmother from home, or getting arrested, their hands hand cuffed behind their backs, at 6 years old in first grade for drawing picture of a gun, or for playing cops and robbers in the school yard, using their finger as a gun, or for having a plastic picnic knife in their lunch to spread cream cheese on their bagel, or for closing their eyes and bowing their head to say a prayer before eating a cup cake during recess.

Just a few reasons to homeschool your children rather than submit them to the propaganda mill of Marxist-Lenisist-Socialist idiocy!

The article states that the schools introduced such intolerant behavior as arresting or harassing small children in school because of such cases as the Columbine shooting cases.

Big problem!

That would NOT prevent the Columbine shootings.

The Columbine killers entered the school with their guns without any security to prevent them, and they roamed the hallways unchallenged, shooting anyone and everyone they wanted to.

The police did NOT enter the building, but remained outside at a safe distance, allowing the children inside to be gunned down, their lives snuffed out. The Police also physically restrained parents who did not want to watch the cops sit on their hands, doing nothing, while their children were inside being used for target practice, defenseless!

I would want to enter the building and take down the killers also, rather than watch the cops do nothing, as happened with Columbine and other cases.

No, the logic does not follow.

There is no logical link between harassing small school kids like happened to this child and others, and preventing Columbine style shootings. All that happens is more children are harassed and abused and the school justifies their behavior based on false, illogical processes.

William2006 on October 13, 2009 at 3:52 PM

Who hit who? Who started it? The punishments are all the same. Teachers and adminsitrators aren’t even required to make basic judgements about that anymore. So in essence your right, in this world of ‘no fault’ life the skills of good judgement are no longer taught. Enjoy your world, in case you wonder it looks like, Chicago is a place to start.

Fighton03 on October 13, 2009 at 2:22 PM

I think that’s more of a demonstration of eternal tolerance.

Chris_Balsz on October 13, 2009 at 3:52 PM

In the 60s in grade school, we brought Estes Rockets to school to fire off. Believe me we could do some real damage with one of those bigger multi-stage engines. In high school, early 70s I brought a 12 gauge shotgun for a demonstration speech in class. Every boy in grade school had a “pen knife”.

Jeff from WI on October 13, 2009 at 3:54 PM

If he were my kid, he would never set foot in any school in that school distric again, forget anout the absurd “reform school” sentence.

infidel4life on October 13, 2009 at 4:05 PM

In the 60s in grade school, we brought Estes Rockets to school to fire off. Believe me we could do some real damage with one of those bigger multi-stage engines.

Jeff from WI on October 13, 2009 at 3:54 PM

Heck, when I was in 7th grade I had a class (elective) on model rocketry. We used to build them in class and take them out and launch them in the football field (under teacher supervision, of course). It was fun.

Does anybody remember what it was like to have fun?

UltimateBob on October 13, 2009 at 4:22 PM

Where is our Fearful Leader with his pontification of:

“Zachary acted stupidly. The nation should use this incident as a teaching moment.”

BobMbx on October 13, 2009 at 4:26 PM

Does anybody remember what it was like to have fun?

UltimateBob on October 13, 2009 at 4:22 PM

Fun ist verbotten!

Report to your assigned discipline center immediately!

BobMbx on October 13, 2009 at 4:27 PM

Does anybody remember what it was like to have fun?

UltimateBob on October 13, 2009 at 4:22 PM

Yes, thank God. And when we crashed our bikes and got a little banged up, no one got sued. Imagine that.

infidel4life on October 13, 2009 at 4:27 PM

Sucks to go to public school.

warden on October 13, 2009 at 11:13 AM

Sucks to be you.

BobMbx on October 13, 2009 at 4:29 PM

In the immortal words of Mark Twain, “First God created idiots. Then he created school boards.”

Percy_Peabody on October 13, 2009 at 4:31 PM

highhopes on October 13, 2009 at 2:52 PM

Now that’s more like it. Hell I was beginning to worry about you. :-)

Oldnuke on October 13, 2009 at 4:33 PM

Zero tolerance…how ’bout spreading some of that zero tolerance to the high schools where it’s really needed. Might be nice if they actually cut down on the drugs and violence, but I hope too much.

Dr. ZhivBlago on October 13, 2009 at 4:42 PM

This is the real reason:

Education experts say that zero-tolerance policies initially allowed authorities more leeway in punishing students, but were applied in a discriminatory fashion. Many studies indicate that African-Americans were several times more likely to be suspended or expelled than other students for the same offenses.

“The result of those studies is that more school districts have removed discretion in applying the disciplinary policies to avoid criticism of being biased,” said Ronnie Casella, an associate professor of education at Central Connecticut State University who has written about school violence. He added that there is no evidence that zero-tolerance policies make schools safer.

Because if it’s not zero tolerance, it’s raaaaaaaaaaacist

apollyonbob on October 13, 2009 at 4:49 PM

What is really sad is that this is not an isolated incident. I hear about these ridiculous things from time to time, and sure I do not hear about all of them. It is nice to see one finally getting some real attention in the hopes that administrators will think in the future before handing down such inappropriate penalties.

BermanPost on October 13, 2009 at 4:51 PM

I have more trust in the average Cub Scout with a knife than in the average teacher with a piece of chalk.

Russ on October 13, 2009 at 4:54 PM

When he completes reform school he’ll have sideburns and a mullet.

scrubjay on October 13, 2009 at 5:22 PM

As I posted this morning, zero tolerance laws are plain evil. The victims are always innocent children and the penalties are heavy handed and severe.

Zero tolerance laws remove from administrators and teachers the liability of having to make a judgment.
But there is one other aspect of zero tolerance laws I did not comment on this morning. Zero tolerance is an attempt at conditioning children to get used to the idea that certain objects are bad and dangerous. And that for one to simply even possess those objects one must face a severe penalty.

Does this lib logic remind anyone of anything else??? Like, say,,arguments to ban guns??
Children that are forced to endure zero tolerance may one day as adults enforce those same kinds of laws back onto their parents and onto the nation. If zero tolerance was good enough for our schools,, why should zero tolerance (for guns, among other things) not be good enough for my town, city, state and country.

JellyToast on October 13, 2009 at 5:32 PM

I think that’s more of a demonstration of eternal tolerance.

Chris_Balsz on October 13, 2009 at 3:52 PM

It is, it’s eternal tolerance of administrative irresponsibility. Hey, that’s what happens when you use policies instead of judgment. By their nature, all rules are ‘zero tolerance’. You break the rule you are punished as the rule describes. As it is used now “zero tolerance” just means “zero judgement required by the adminstrator”.

Fighton03 on October 13, 2009 at 6:00 PM

Who are we kidding here?? Obviously this little snot-nosed terrorist is in cahoots with Al Queda! Thank God the supervisor on the bus was able to strip him of his weapon before he arrived at school where, no doubt, bloody mayhem would have ensued. And to think this future Jihadi will likely get off with a mere 45 day slap on the wrist! Unbelievable…

OC Sandman on October 13, 2009 at 6:10 PM

I have more trust in the average Cub Scout with a knife than in the average teacher with a piece of chalk.

Russ on October 13, 2009 at 4:54 PM

Your keyboard to God’s ears. Truer words were never spoken.

highhopes on October 13, 2009 at 6:26 PM

Obviously this little snot-nosed terrorist is in cahoots with Al Queda!
OC Sandman on October 13, 2009 at 6:10 PM

And did you see that mugshot of little Zach? Frightening that he is just being sent off to be with the kids who are behavior problems instead of locked up or put on ritilin!

highhopes on October 13, 2009 at 6:29 PM

I have more trust in the average Cub Scout with a knife than in the average teacher with a piece of chalk.

Russ on October 13, 2009 at 4:54 PM

Your keyboard to God’s ears. Truer words were never spoken.

highhopes on October 13, 2009 at 6:26 PM

AMEN!

Jeff from WI on October 13, 2009 at 6:34 PM

I’m seriously tempted to by a box of these and hand them out on Halloween. Sheesh…

SPCOlympics on October 13, 2009 at 6:42 PM

In the 60s in grade school, we brought Estes Rockets to school to fire off. Believe me we could do some real damage with one of those bigger multi-stage engines.

Jeff from WI on October 13, 2009 at 3:54 PM

Heck, when I was in 7th grade I had a class (elective) on model rocketry. We used to build them in class and take them out and launch them in the football field (under teacher supervision, of course). It was fun.

Does anybody remember what it was like to have fun?

UltimateBob on October 13, 2009 at 4:22 PM

I helped my younger brothers build a wooden go kart to race other kids karts down this huge hill by our house. While I was at my buddies, they stole over a dozen rocket engines of mine and glued them into a coffee can and nailed it on the back of the cart, and raced it down the hill with all engines firing.

They crashed the kart, and burned it and the tree they hit to the ground.

Jeff from WI on October 13, 2009 at 6:53 PM

Jeff from WI on October 13, 2009 at 6:53 PM

That was good for a laugh. Especially after all the other cr.. that went on today.

chemman on October 13, 2009 at 7:09 PM

Sucks to be you.

BobMbx on October 13, 2009 at 4:29 PM

You’re not a fan of personal responsibility? The true conservative response here is to lobby to change the stupid rule. Not to try to shield the parents or the child of responsibility for breaking said stupid rule. Everyone has heard stories about these moronic zero tolerance rules for years. You are an incompetent parent if you don’t make it clear to your kids that “you’ll get in big trouble if you bring this to school.”

warden on October 13, 2009 at 7:23 PM

warden on October 13, 2009 at 7:23 PM

Zero tolerance rules need to be created with common sense in mind. In some areas there shouldn’t be any latitude like getting caught with illegal drugs. In other areas there shouldn’t be hard in fast rules where little Zach is forced to go to reform school for behavior problem children. Imagine convicted of a “level III” infraction at the age of six! A felon before the second grade without, apparently, any sort of appeal process other than the public outrage that might change the rule. It’s completely absurd.

I’ll end with the wise words Russ provided: ‘I have more trust in the average Cub Scout with a knife than in the average teacher with a piece of chalk.’

highhopes on October 13, 2009 at 7:38 PM

I got a pocketknife on my sixth birthday. Nobody gave me a talk on anything, as I already had enough common sense to handle a knife by then.

Vashta.Nerada on October 13, 2009 at 3:05 PM

I got a knife when I was seven, but it came with rules. I taught my 10 year old nephew to shoot a 22 rifle recently, and believe me there were rules. He’s a pretty good shot by the way. I don’t think that I’d ever attempt to teach a child how to use any tool without rules, and I’ve never met a 6 year old that can be trusted to use (and take care of) a sharp blade without some instruction.

warden on October 13, 2009 at 7:39 PM

highhopes on October 13, 2009 at 7:38 PM

Of course the zero tolerance policies are stupid, but do you think Zach’s parents were ignorant of the zero tolerance policies?

warden on October 13, 2009 at 7:44 PM

I’m teaching English in South Korea now. The kids have box cutters – small razor blades. They are useful. I’ve needed to open up books to get CD’s out and I ask the kids to borrow their blades.

The first time I saw them, I was really surprised. REALLY SURPRISED. Seeing 10 year olds with box cutters at school was kind of shocking. But it’s different here. It’s not like Detroit where my mother was from. Kids walk through the streets coming home from school 11:00 PM at night. I see girls walking alone and think, if this was Detroit, you would be in such danger. Here, it’s 11:00 at night, and you see kids playing in the parks.

By the way, I’m staying here until the Messiah heals the world. I’m Canadian and American but South Korea looks really good.

Canadian Infidel on October 13, 2009 at 7:52 PM

But it’s different here
Canadian Infidel on October 13, 2009 at 7:52 PM

My guess is that political correctness has not struck yet. I long for those days.

mike_NC9 on October 13, 2009 at 8:12 PM

Perhaps the child could sing a song tonight if given an opportunity to speak in his defense…

“Barack Hussein Obama…”
“M-m-m-m-m m-m-m-m-m m-m-m-m-m…”

“CASE DISMISSED! REFORM SCHOOL NOT REQUIRED!”

Khun Joe on October 13, 2009 at 8:36 PM

Love the Zero tolerance elites. Dont allow swiss knives in school but hand out condoms. No T-shirts with Christian references, but require sensitivity towards other faiths. Don’t want to distinguish in terms of race, but want to stereo-type all whites as racist. Preach self-confidence and teach victimhood as a life style.
Wake up! Home school your children as I do. My wife and I teach our kids more in two hours of concentrated study than any school does in a week. Every time you send your kid to public schools you generate more $$ for the Democratic Union funded party. Defund our enemy! Dont buy Union produced products! Your kids are a product to the teachers union. A source of funding and they don’t respect your kids or your values. There’s more than one way to beat our political adversary. Start Living IT!

MichiganMatt on October 13, 2009 at 9:11 PM

I read tonight that this silliness will be stopped.

CWforFreedom on October 13, 2009 at 9:40 PM

This innocent little white boy is simply another sacrificial lamb on the alter of cowardice.

The real problem is hinted at in the NYT article:
““The result of those studies is that more school districts have removed discretion in applying the disciplinary policies to avoid criticism of being biased

The politically incorrect fact is that black school children are, on the whole as a group, overwhelmingly more violent & disruptive in school (also hinted at in the article) and therefore would get & deserve suspensions far more often than white students without zero tolerance policies. Hence schools have them, as nonsensical as this case shows them to be, to avoid complaints/lawsuits charging racism.

Again white children have to suffer because spineless politicians & public officials won’t admit the truth, do what’s right and fight these nuisance complaints. White parents need to trash their “white guilt” and insist on protecting their own children from such cowardly policies and blacks need to stop acting, as a group, like adversaries to non-blacks.

Chessplayer on October 13, 2009 at 10:44 PM

I have more trust in the average Cub Scout with a knife than in the average teacher with a piece of chalk.

Russ on October 13, 2009 at 4:54 PM

or a politician with my tax dollars….

Fighton03 on October 13, 2009 at 10:55 PM

The kid’s parents should have known better!

What were they thinking, sending their six year old child to school with a knife? Were they trying to terrorize the entire school?

Do the parents hate black kids and want to show their racism?

Everyone knows that this was an unprovoked attack by a racist white family and their racist white child against innocent, non-violent, pacifist black children, Muslims, and homosexuals.

The kid should be charged with a hate crime, and so should the parents of the kid!

The parents should get the death penalty, and the kid should go to a maximum security prison for hardened criminals. The other prisoners should be protected from such a dangerous felon as this six year old racist, violent, hate filled psychopath who clearly entered the school with weapons in order to slaughter the entire school, killing as many kids, teachers, and others, as he could, before turning the weapon on himself in a final blaze of glory!

Clearly the kid wanted to make a name for himself and to mark his place in history, outperforming the attacks in Littleton, Colorado, and VA Tech and the Long Island railroad attack – Oh, Wait! The Long Island Railroad attack never took place. Blacks don’t do things like that. Only white racist haters with guns go out in public and kill people!

Just send the kid to life in prison at Folsom, or some other nasty place, perhaps even SuperMax in Colorado, and protect the other inmates from this scourge on society, for the other inmates will be in grave danger.

Better not drop the soap in the shower of this six year old terrorist will rip you a new one!

Death penalty for those horrible parents, and life in prison – maximum security – for the demonic kid!

William2006 on October 13, 2009 at 11:27 PM

NUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

canopfor on October 13, 2009 at 11:37 PM

In what industry would you expect a lot of cars with both “free mumia” and “jail Bush” bumper stickers?

Academia.

Explains it all – they don’t just lack judgment, they’re against it.

Merovign on October 14, 2009 at 12:30 AM

In what industry would you expect a lot of cars with both “free mumia” and “jail Bush” bumper stickers?

Academia.

Explains it all – they don’t just lack judgment, they’re against it.

Merovign on October 14, 2009 at 12:30 AM

except of ‘conservatives’…

Fighton03 on October 14, 2009 at 12:39 AM

The school where my wife teaches would have to send 3/4 of the kids to reform school. She teaches in a rural school where almost all the kids carry small pocket knives. When deer season comes around, the school is a ghost town since most of the older children are out hunting with either Mom or Dad.

Torch on October 13, 2009 at 10:27 AM

Somewhat similar situation when I was in high school, 30someodd years ago.

Except we didn’t take hunting season off, we just hunted before school, then drove our vehicles to school. Weapons and all!

Kids driving trucks with gun racks. Firearms in full view.

Occasionally a teacher would notice, ask us to retreive the firearm, and proceed to admire, or critique, our choices!

Even when hunting season was over, there were still .22s and various other plinkers and “snake guns” there too.

I’d like to invent a time machine, transport the zero tolerance proponents back to my school parking lot in December 1975, and watch heads explode.

We’re raising a generation of major pu…wusses.

soundingboard on October 14, 2009 at 1:16 AM

When I was in school we could buy pocket knifes in the small store next door. We would carve, throw them into trees and play various knife games during recess. Many of us even sharpened pencils with them during class time. This was back in the early 1960s and I grew up just outside of Boston MA so I’m not talking about some small town in the south or mid-west.

RagTag on October 13, 2009 at 10:44 AM

I forgot about the daily game of mumbly peg.

soundingboard on October 14, 2009 at 1:26 AM

I’m seriously tempted to by a box of these and hand them out on Halloween. Sheesh…
SPCOlympics on October 13, 2009 at 6:42 PM

Or, if you could find them, boxes of candy cigarettes. The horror! The horror!

ya2daup on October 14, 2009 at 1:36 AM

I’ve often thought that zero tolerance was code for ‘we are conditioning you to not question authority under any circumstances’

hoakie on October 14, 2009 at 8:36 AM

I don’t buy the reform school threat in the headline.

As a former police officer and firsthand witness to the juvenile system in Hawaii, I will be struck by lightning if this child spends one second in reform school.

He has been inappropriately punished enough already.

I think school policies to keep weapons out of schools are okay, but they should not be directed at children of his age at all. As a matter of fact, I would that no child of his age is even legally liable for what he does. For example, in Hawaii, a child is not legally liable until he/she is 7 years old (which is still too damn young in my view).

NavyMustang on October 14, 2009 at 9:10 AM

I would that nowould think that no child of his age is even legally liable for what he does.

What I meant…

NavyMustang on October 14, 2009 at 9:12 AM

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