Breaking: Snowe defects on committee vote
posted at 1:22 pm on October 13, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Charles Grassley predicted that the Republicans on the Senate Finance Committee would stick together on the final panel vote on the Baucus health-care overhaul plan. Unfortunately, he didn’t reckon on colleague Olympia Snowe’s desire to make “history,” which apparently trumps fiscal responsibility and common sense. Snowe will vote to pass the non-bill, giving Democrats some much-needed political cover:
Republican Sen. Olympia Snowe says she will vote for a Democratic health care bill, breaking with her party on President Barack Obama’s top legislative priority.
The Maine senator kept virtually all of Washington guessing how she would vote until she announced it late in the Senate Finance Committee debate Tuesday. Until then, she told reporters, she had not even let Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., in on her secret. She told her colleagues: “When history calls, history calls,” even though she had some criticism of the bill.
History? Certainly, we don’t often see Congressional committees passing summaries instead of writing legislation, so that’s one for the history books. We also don’t often see Congress passing trillion-dollar bills in a rush, although to be fair, they managed to do it earlier with Porkulus — a bill on which Snowe also helped make “history”. Unfortunately, we see Snowe often crossing over on critical votes, so that’s neither history nor a surprise.
This does give Democrats momentum on the floor. Snowe’s approving vote makes it tougher for Blanche Lincoln and Ben Nelson to buck their caucus and oppose it. Joe Lieberman’s opposition may make that a little easier, and a negative CBO score when the language gets written may push Snowe back into opposition. It’s more likely, though, that the CBO won’t score it in time to make a difference in the floor vote on cloture.
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Olympia Snowe – Republican in Name Only. But be sure that Mike Steele & friends will be supporting her when she comes up for reelection.
Screw them all. If you’re in Maine, start looking for a conservative candidate for the GOP primary.
hawksruleva on October 13, 2009 at 3:33 PM
and the executive is under NO OBLIGATION to enforce any order of the supreme court.
just like Andrew jackson…
right4life on October 13, 2009 at 3:33 PM
No one is saying she doesn’t have the RIGHT to represent MAINE and the people who voted for her who were DEMOCRATS, REPUBLICANS, AND INDEPENDENTS AND OTHERS. She doesn’t have the RIGHT to represent the GOP. She doesn’t have a RIGHT to RNC FUNDS given to her to SUPPORT RNC LIMITED GOVERNMENT IDEOLOGY in order to get re-elected. If you believe that, then you might as well stick a gun to the GOP’s head. One person can dictate to the rest of the Party what we are or are not going to support? No, a lone wolf acting on her own views she should be exampled as such and NOT as representing ANYTHING that comes close to the CREED of the GOP…
Sultry Beauty on October 13, 2009 at 3:34 PM
We still haven’t reached “third-world sewer” status yet. That will take Osama Obama and the traitorous hacks in Congress a few more weeks.
MrScribbler on October 13, 2009 at 3:34 PM
Well I wasn’t picking anything in particular. Marbury v Madison. You and I agree, bad decision. But there’s no check in the constitution on SCOTUS. They get to interpret as they like and there isn’t anything you or I can do about it. The constitution was not intended to work this way but it’s the way it was written and only an amendment would change it (which is unlikely). So if you were a constitutionalist, you would presumably have no problem with Marbury v Madison. The constitution is set up so that SCOTUS has the final world.
Unfortunately, the constitution never stood a chance.
The Calibur on October 13, 2009 at 3:35 PM
Honda and elduende, given that a Democrat is President and will be twisting arms, why wouldn’t the smarter course be to vote for cloture and then vote against the bill, so they can still tell the people back home they voted against the bill (as ultimately passed).
Jimbo3 on October 13, 2009 at 3:36 PM
HAH! sorry simpleton. You have it backwards. See Sarah Palin.
Sultry Beauty on October 13, 2009 at 3:37 PM
Its been mentioned a couple times that the RNC cant kick snowe out, but what would stop them from stripping her of positions or putting out a statement saying shes free to vote how she wants but she does not represent the views of the RNC…..or does she?
TheVer on October 13, 2009 at 3:37 PM
Pass what you will. I WILL NOT be a part of it. Come & get me.
What a bunch of addle-brained, corrupt, liars. You empty out two “slush funds”(Medicare & SS), and just have to restock your coffers. If anyone is stupid enough to believe that this is altruistic on their part, you deserve whatever that stupidity brings you in life. Just don’t try to drag me along.
VOTE THE BUMS OUT!!!!!!!
hopefloats on October 13, 2009 at 3:37 PM
Heh.
NathanG on October 13, 2009 at 3:38 PM
Because they know the ‘people back home’ aren’t hat stupid.
gwelf on October 13, 2009 at 3:40 PM
Are you seriously stupid enough to believe that a committee vote a proposal means you get your government run health care tomorrow?
Get a clue. Nothing of significance is ever going to pass dude. Obama has killed all your hopes by painting the Dem’s into a corner. They can’t give him a bill that will increase the deficit. They can’t give him a bill that will cause those who make under $200K to pay higher taxes. They can’t give him a bill that might cause people to lose their current insurance.
There are too many restrictions that Obama placed on the effort for them to produce any “nation changing” legislation unless the whole Democratic Party and the President break a LOT of promises they’ve made to the American people.
Actually – I hope they do it. Because if they do – it’ll be the entire Democratic party that goes the way of the Whigs.
HondaV65 on October 13, 2009 at 3:40 PM
“When history calls”???? Are you f*@king SERIOUS?!?! Hey Snowe, when history calls, it’s going to demand that you become part of it.
What an incredible idiot.
ICBMMan on October 13, 2009 at 3:40 PM
If it were that easy they would have passed a full blown socialist bill last July but it didn’t. This isn’t a dictatorship yet. They won’t vote for it because the polling shows that people are opposed to this by almost 60%.
There are 75 democrat house members sitting in districts that McCain won they’ll think twice before voting for this as will all the senators from red states.
elduende on October 13, 2009 at 3:40 PM
Oh for heavens sake, the party can not get rid of that kook Ron Paul. And I was not aware that Snowe was dictating to the rest of the party. My point is that the people of Maine elected this woman to office.
Terrye on October 13, 2009 at 3:41 PM
I want to play poker with you.
You’d be all happy to hear back from your senator that while they could have actually blocked this abomination at the cloture stage, they voted it on through, knowing it would pass at the final stage (at which time they nobly voted NO?)
TexasDan on October 13, 2009 at 3:41 PM
This woman is the most disgusting human being outside of Barack Hussein Obama! I pray that the GOP gives her no assistance when she is up for reelection. She is nothing but a traitor to the American people. She, along with lots more in Washington need to be fired…… so remember her actions when she is up for reelection folks. She is more interested in making history than looking out for the American people. How SICK is that! She needs to switch over to the liberal party……she has not one conservative bone in her skinny body.
Conservative Lady on October 13, 2009 at 3:41 PM
I am sure there was once a time when Olympia Snowe stood for something, but these days, it is apparent that she will fall for anything. If anything, she just may have sealed her fate as far as what is left of her political future.
pilamaye on October 13, 2009 at 3:42 PM
YES THEY CAN!
Sultry Beauty on October 13, 2009 at 3:42 PM
There’s no reason to support her with RNC funds or allow her any committee assignments nor keep her in the caucus at all. If Maine voters want a senator that can represent their interests effectively they should vote for a Democrat.
elduende on October 13, 2009 at 3:44 PM
In other words sultry beauty Lieberman was challenged in his state as a Democrat and so he came back and won as an Independent. The people of his state put him in office and kept him there. Now, if the Republicans in Maine want to run someone against Snowe, fine and dandy..I doubt if she could do what Lieberman did and survive as an Independent..but in the end, it is the voters that make that decision, not the party leadership.
Terrye on October 13, 2009 at 3:44 PM
Encouraging….but I dont think I’ll hold my breath.
TheVer on October 13, 2009 at 3:45 PM
Terrye
http://www.maine.gov/sos/cec/elec/2008/candidate-guide.pdf
A Senatorial candidate in Maine has between January 1 and March 17 to file 2000 verified signatures of registered Maine Republicans to qualify for the Republican primary. In practice that usually means getting twice as many signatures to submit for verification. You gonna tell me the GOP will not spend $0.01 to help Snowe get those signatures? Will not funnel $$$$ into her own PAC? Who do you think you’re fooling? Seriously?
Chris_Balsz on October 13, 2009 at 3:45 PM
U.S. SENATE COMMITEE ON FINANCE REPUBLICAN MEMBERS: CHUCK GRASSLEY, IA, ORRIN G. HATCH, UT, OLYMPIA J. SNOWE, ME, JON KYL, AZ, JIM BUNNING, KY, MIKE CRAPO, ID, PAT ROBERTS, KS, JOHN ENSIGN, NV, MIKE ENZI, WY, JOHN CORNYN, TX
Based on her actions today, she can be removed from this committee position. The problem is that the GOP doesn’t have the cajones to do it.
Sultry Beauty on October 13, 2009 at 3:46 PM
I agree about Ron Paul. I can’t wait until he retires. I’m hoping the people of Lake Jackson and the area around it have enough sense to elect somebody with some sense. He’s not only a kook, but also a jerk. I’m ashamed he’s from Texas.
NathanG on October 13, 2009 at 3:46 PM
This place is going to be a hoot when they pass cap and trade with a ton of GOP votes.
Man, where was all the screaming during the Bush prescription drug bill?
True_King on October 13, 2009 at 3:46 PM
article 3 section 2.
you do know 9 people are not sacrosanct? the congress created the court system, other than the supreme court…it can destroy it, start over…make it 1 justice, 1000 justices…whatever…pay them whatever it wants to.
right4life on October 13, 2009 at 3:46 PM
Indeed you’re correct but the SCOTUS didn’t interpret it that way and there is no check on SCOTUS. Therefore, we see how it turned out in Marbury v Madison.
The Calibur on October 13, 2009 at 3:46 PM
If I remember correctly there was a felony involved in that..and then there was some question as to whether Stevens had been unjustly accused. The bottom line, is that Stevens lost the election because the voters of Alaska refused to return him to the Senate, the GOP could not even stop him from running. And so the Democrat won his seat. No doubt if the GOP could have stopped him, they would have because it might have been possible to elect another Republican.
Terrye on October 13, 2009 at 3:47 PM
If the Rep keep Snowed in the party in good standing the party is over.This will push me and millions of others to try to form a new party.The power that be must come down like a ton of bricks on this absolute sell out.We don,t need her or want her brand of sell out in the party if we are to have any chance to rebuild it. I just told my Sen. Jim DeMint of S.C.one of the few good guys left.If the GOP does not do some thing about her in the next few days i will do all i can to take this party down him included.
thmcbb on October 13, 2009 at 3:47 PM
Why is there a National Republican Senate Campaign Committee? Don’t they know it’s not up to the party? Boy will they feel stupid when they find out!
Chris_Balsz on October 13, 2009 at 3:47 PM
I honestly wonder how a lot of these people get elected and stay there. Rangel, Frank, Paul, Snowe…a lot of them are just a sad class of people.
Terrye on October 13, 2009 at 3:49 PM
That’s not the way it will work though. The fact is – Snowe is important to the health care debate (unfortunately).
Her vote for the Democrats is coveted because they want to use here to claim bi-partisanship.
Her vote for Republicans is coveted because on the occasions that she votes with the GOP – people are shocked and honestly believe the bill must have been flawed for her side with the GOP.
When a bill finally comes to the floor – the GOP will go to her and say “Name your price”. And she’ll say … campaign funds, and pork for her constituents, etc. etc.
And Michael Steele will break out the checkbook and the wheels on the bus continue to go round and round.
The only thing you can do to stop is is make sure that Michael Steele doesn’t have any cash or other goodies to support her. Which is why no grassroots conservative should give a penny to the RNC, the NRSC – or any purse controlled by the old-guard Ayatollahs of the Republican Party.
HondaV65 on October 13, 2009 at 3:49 PM
How much does seniority have to do with committee chairs and such?
Terrye on October 13, 2009 at 3:51 PM
Fine Terrye. If you wanna tell me what GOP liberals tell me all the time fine. But the RNC has a lot more power than you’re telling people here. They can effectively strip her of any power within the caucus and make her sidelined and inept, not fund her campaign, and make her a lame duck with NO POWER TO MAKE A COMMITTEE VOTE ON BEHALF OF THE GOP. They MAY NOT OPT TO DO THAT BECAUSE THEY LOVE THEIR LIBERALS AND ARE REALLY NOT CONSERVATIVE BUT GIVE CONSERVATIVE LIP-SERVICE AND WANT BIG GOVERNMENT. Please don’t try to tell me that they can’t remove her if they really wanted to. She’s a Senator but she’s not GUARANTEED the right to life-long GOP leadership status simply because she chooses to put an R next to her name.
Sultry Beauty on October 13, 2009 at 3:51 PM
yes and unfortunately our elected representatives are too gutless to take on the court. but they have the power…not the will.
congress can cut the supreme court to 1 person…and then rebuilt it in whatever image they want…or pass an amendment to give congress the final say on every court case.
it was our founder’s biggest mistake. scotus has caused untold misery in this country…slavery…seperate but equal…abortion….
right4life on October 13, 2009 at 3:52 PM
This also means that when young and new conservatives who do not have deep pockets try and run for office they lack the funds to go up against the Democrats..in which case it does not matter what Snowe does or does not do, because the Democrats have such a majority they can do what they like.
Terrye on October 13, 2009 at 3:53 PM
Are you saying that the GOP HAD to keep Sen. Stevens in his committee positions because of SENIORITY AND AREN’T ALLOWED TO REMOVE HIM BECAUSE OF THAT EVEN IF HIS DEEMED CORRUPT? If they can do it to Sen. Stevens they can do it to Sen. Snowe. No one gives and good fraking freak reason why, they can do it.
Sultry Beauty on October 13, 2009 at 3:54 PM
Eventually this nonsense is going to have to stop. I agree starve them of funds but it is frustrating to read things like this from a supposed Republican:
elduende on October 13, 2009 at 3:54 PM
Sultry Beauty:
WHY PUT THINGS IN CAPS? I AM NOT DEAF.
Fine, let them strip of her of everything, most of the folks of Maine will go ahead and vote for her anyway if she does not have any opposition.
Wouldn’t it make more sense to launch a primary campaign against her?
Terrye on October 13, 2009 at 3:55 PM
TheVer on October 13, 2009 at 3:55 PM
They move to where the idiots live and make a name for themselves become incumbents that people will vote for no matter what they say or do. It’s how Maxine Waters gets voted in time and time again even though she’s as corrupt as the day is long.
Sultry Beauty on October 13, 2009 at 3:56 PM
Sultry Beauty:
No, I am not saying. I am saying that Stevens was convicted of a crime and that had a little to do with the situation.
Terrye on October 13, 2009 at 3:56 PM
It does not matter when liberal Republicans win, either, because then liberals still have the votes…
With the internet we do not need a central political party to inform us of candidates across the country. In fact, the GOP has destroyed the original purpose of the political party– concerted political action by like-minded people across jurisdictional lines– and replaced it entirely with fund-raising, so denying it fundraising would rob it of any meaning at all.
Chris_Balsz on October 13, 2009 at 3:57 PM
Sultry Beauty:
They move to where the idiots live?
Whatever.
Terrye on October 13, 2009 at 3:57 PM
PS In case i wasn’t clear I meant Snowe is the supposed Republican, not you ;-)
elduende on October 13, 2009 at 3:57 PM
Well of course they’ll never reform the court. It’s much easier to just appoint people that swing your way instead of reforming it, which is why it will never get done.
Fun Fact: Did you know that the delegates of New York at the ratification tried to add this amendment:
That persons aggrieved by any Judgment, Sentence or Decree of the Supreme Court of the United States, in any Cause in which that Court has original Jurisdiction, with such exceptions and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make concerning the same, shall upon application, have a Commission to be issued by the President of the United States, to such Men learned in the Law as he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and consent of the Senate appoint, not less than seven, authorizing such Commissioners, or any seven or more of them, to correct the Errors in such Judgment or to review such Sentence and Decree, as the case may be, and to do Justice to the parties in the Premises.
It’s a shame it never go adopted.
The Calibur on October 13, 2009 at 3:58 PM
Of course – the grotesque thing about all this is this …
Snowe won her seat in the last election by a landslide – she was over 70% I think – greatest margin in the nation probably.
How does she do it?
Well … I think she has struck deals with the Democrats for them to not back any serious opponent against her – so she goes for a cake walk every six years.
How much do you want to bet that they are telling her (right now) that if she votes with them all the way through on this health care bill – then they will make sure she has another easy time of reelection in 2012?
And the beautiful thing is – the NRSC keeps her in positions of seniority and then Ayatollah’s like Cornyn tell us how special it is that we have her – and if we lose her then we’ll be a regional party and we want her in our party and to keep her happy and blah … blah … blah.
Meanwhile she’s cutting deals with the Democrats to run virtually unopposed as long as she votes with them on the key points of the Ogabe socialist agenda.
Which is why folks – we need to support people like Sarah Palin and Marco Rubio and – even Huckster (though I don’t like him that much). Those grassroots outsiders are our only hope to get this party on the track again.
HondaV65 on October 13, 2009 at 4:00 PM
You’re ridiculous. And I’m not YELLING. I’m using it as emphasis because I’d rather type then use my mouse. Forgive me. Bottom line: Why can’t they do both? Are you saying she should have power as a GOP member to screw us over? You’re kidding right? She’s done it enough already. She’ just gave blue dog Dems the cover they need to shove this crap sandwich down our throats. And I’m supposed to what? Shrug my shoulders and say, “oh well, she was voted in by those wonderful folks in Maine. Let her keep her spots and doing it again…” You’ve got to be shitting me. Let her do it once, shame on her. Let her do it twice, shame on me. Let her do it a third time, shame on us all!
Sultry Beauty on October 13, 2009 at 4:00 PM
Send her some cardboard boxes. Her office will be vacated soon enough.
Static on October 13, 2009 at 4:01 PM
This is just great. The Democrats have a super majority. They have a leftie in the White House. The Democrats are pushing for this agenda. The Democrats do not even need the Republicans. The Democrats are winning most of the elections right now.
And who are you complaining about? The Republicans. If Snowe had voted no on this it would not have made any difference at all. Look at the vote,14-9.
This is why the Democrats win, because people on the right only care about going after each other. That is their number one concern, the time honored circular firing squad.
Terrye on October 13, 2009 at 4:01 PM
Now i remember why i never contribute to the RNC. Wouldn’t want a penny going to this woman. Already contributed to Joe Wilson and some others directly but never to the RNC.
10AC on October 13, 2009 at 4:01 PM
Olympia Snowe wins the award again.
Call me when she does something unpredictable.
Mr. Joe on October 13, 2009 at 4:03 PM
Are you joking? So the ONLY reason the GOP can remove someone from committees is because of being convicted of a crime. NOT because they are the ONLY person to vote with the opposing Party and against GOP principals and giving us all an entitlement that will collapse our economy and destroy our nation as we envision it as GOP members.
WHATEVER!
Sultry Beauty on October 13, 2009 at 4:03 PM
I am ridiculous. Hey, at least I can count. I am saying, it would not have mattered in the long run to the overall vote if she had been there or not. The GOP could take her out and shoot her and the Democrats could still pass this thing if they could get their own people to stand together on it. The Republicans are irrelevant to the process right now because they do not have the votes.
Terrye on October 13, 2009 at 4:04 PM
Terrye on October 13, 2009 at 3:56 PM
Listen, sweetie, you used Stevens as an example, not me.
Terrye on October 13, 2009 at 4:05 PM
The floor is yours – tell us, oh great one – what a wonderful blessing Olympia Snowe’s “Yeah” vote today was for the GOP.
We’re listening.
HondaV65 on October 13, 2009 at 4:06 PM
very true.
right4life on October 13, 2009 at 4:06 PM
There are a lot of people just like Wilson who get money from the RNC.
Terrye on October 13, 2009 at 4:06 PM
Guess you could call this a “Snowe” job. Damn Rino !!!!
10AC on October 13, 2009 at 4:07 PM
Tired old statements that don’t mean anything and don’t work anymore. Enjoy your Universal Healthcare and support your RINOs. You’ll be in the minority even further. But don’t pretend to be a conservative because you aren’t. No the Democrats don’t NEED Republicans. But we don’t NEED Republicans to go along with them so they can say as they always say, “See, that Sen Snowe say the light. All the REST are just a bunch of fanatical Right Wing Racist who listen to Limbaugh.” If you don’t understand that about the media and how they use this stuff to try and sway Independent voters then you’re not worth reading or responding to anyway. You’re simply naive.
Sultry Beauty on October 13, 2009 at 4:08 PM
Except that the wild card in the deck is Lieberman… without him they don’t reach 60, without Snowe…
Romeo13 on October 13, 2009 at 4:08 PM
This is why the Democrats win, because people on the right only care about going after each other. That is their number one concern, the time honored circular firing squad.
T
I never said it was a blessing of any kind. I think some real conservative should run against her in a primary and try to take that seat away from her. In fact I think that if more conservatives ran all over the country and tried to take seats from Democrats and even some soft Republicans and built up their numbers in the House, it would be a very good thing. However, if people just spend all of their time concentrating on Snowe and forget about the idiot Democrats who brought this bill up for a vote in the first place it will not change things.
Terrye on October 13, 2009 at 4:10 PM
And others, like Marco Rubio – who get nothing but crap from them.
HondaV65 on October 13, 2009 at 4:10 PM
Yes, that is true. Lieberman is a wild card.
Terrye on October 13, 2009 at 4:11 PM
Does she not care what her constituents think or are there no conservatives in Maine?
ohiobabe on October 13, 2009 at 4:11 PM
Honda:
Rubio is a Republican isn’t he?
Terrye on October 13, 2009 at 4:12 PM
The divided house will not stand, we need to get the Republican house in order too, at least we know where the stabbing will come from with the Dems…watch your back with some of these Republicans
TheVer on October 13, 2009 at 4:12 PM
Yes, I did. And I still am, Sweetie. I was being sarcastic. HAH! Just because YOU say that Sen. Stevens being considered for removal from committee spots was ONLY because of his corruption therefore it’s the ONLY reason someone can get removed doesn’t make it so, dear! My POINT was that since you were trying to tell people that a sitting Senator CANNOT be removed from his committee spots I decided to give Sen. Stevens as an example of IN FACT YES they can be removed. YOU are the one who states that corruption is the only reason. “I” say NO it’s not. Got it?
Sultry Beauty on October 13, 2009 at 4:13 PM
I think you and I are on the same ticket but I think you aren’t considering the fact that Snowe is almost certainly cutting deals with the Democrats for them to not put up any serious opposition against her reelection as along as she votes with them.
This would make her not just a RINO – but a traitorous one at that. I think the record is pretty clear – when the chips are down she votes with the Socialists. And if you look at her recent elections – she’s not getting any serious Democratic opposition in an area of the nation that should be rife with it.
I see no need to reward her. I see every reason to cut her off.
HondaV65 on October 13, 2009 at 4:13 PM
Listen lady. I have never supported universal health care. Ever.I have made the phone calls, sent the emails, voted for the conservatives etc. I don’t even like Snowe and I don’t like her vote. I have no idea what your problem even is.
Terrye on October 13, 2009 at 4:14 PM
I thought ACORN was the reason the Democrats win. Maybe ACORN got to Snowe. I think I saw her talking to Van Jones.
The point is while the moronic GOP media (Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, etc) are going off on nonsense like ACORN they do not intelligently discuss the reason Health Care Reform will hurt the people. Conservatives need intelligent voices, not these charlatans. Attach Obama and the Democrats on the issues not this ACORN, Van Jones, and all the other nonsense. Nobody will take you seriously when you do.
Decider on October 13, 2009 at 4:15 PM
There are a lot of people just like Wilson who get money from the RNC.
Terrye on October 13, 2009 at 4:06 PM
yes but at least i know who and where money is going. And it sure won’t be going to her.
10AC on October 13, 2009 at 4:16 PM
Not only is Snowe too cowardly to put the “D” on after her name, she’s also afraid to answer her phones. Seriously, how do these people (Snowe, Graham, et al) keep getting elected as Republicans? Fervently hope there is a massive cleansing in D.C. in 2010. Otherwise, I’m afraid my kids will not know the same America I did.
varnson on October 13, 2009 at 4:17 PM
Call Snowe’s office and tell them that you will do everything in your power to see that she is defeated if she votes “yes” on the motion to proceed. Tell them that you are not fooled by the Democrats parlimentary trickery and that you understand that the first vote on the motion to proceed is really the key vote. She needs to understand that if she votes “Yes,” we’re coming up the hill for her with the pitchforks and torches.
PD Quig on October 13, 2009 at 4:17 PM
And btw I do listen to Limbaugh from time to time and while I do not always agree with him, I do agree with him more often than not.
And he said that Republicans were irrelevant to this process right now and he also said that third parties or division on the right means that Democrats win..win..win.
That does not mean he likes Snowe’s vote. I am sure he does not. And neither do I.
Terrye on October 13, 2009 at 4:17 PM
Well, guys and gals, we knew this was coming didn’t we? The american people are going to have to be forced into drastic action to prevent any further drift into socialism.
In my opinion the lot in Washington needs to go – or at least 95% of them. It is all of them as a group that is the problem. Is it time yet for pitchforks in Washington?!
KickandSwimMom on October 13, 2009 at 4:17 PM
I forgot to supply her DC office number: 202-224-5344
PD Quig on October 13, 2009 at 4:17 PM
Yes – he’s a Republican – and the NRSC (through John Cornyn) endorsed Charlie Crist in the PRIMARY – even though Rubio had thrown his name in first. It’s inexcusable – and the reason I call Cornyn an “Ayatollah” – as the Ayatollahs in Iran pick and choose who can run in a regular election the same way the NRSC did in his case.
But … Terrye – the war is already here. Because even though Cornyn has endorsed Crist – DeMint – another member of the NRSC has all but endorsed Rubio. There is now a civil war in the NRSC – there is a civil war in the GOP at large.
I’m on the grassroots side of that and I oppose the Ayatollahs. I back the Rubios, and the Palins, and Huckamaniacs.
And we now know that Karl Rove is siding against the Ayatollahs – as he’s let it be pubicly known he supports Rubio.
War is here bro. It’s only a question of who wins it.
HondaV65 on October 13, 2009 at 4:18 PM
This should be the focus point for the next 12 months…we need to find real conservatives to run and start weeding out the ‘progressives’ and their ilk.
TheVer on October 13, 2009 at 4:19 PM
I thought ACORN was the reason the Democrats win. Maybe ACORN got to Snowe. I think I saw her talking to Van Jones.
Actually ACORN did help the Democrats, until they were all arrested and shut down and force out of business.
And the truth is that folks like you are the best friends Republicans have, because sooner or later you push it so far that the American people come back right. It happens every time, champ.
Terrye on October 13, 2009 at 4:19 PM
Seriously, how do these people (Snowe, Graham, et al) keep getting elected as Republicans?
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That is what I would like to know,how do they keep getting reelected?
ohiobabe on October 13, 2009 at 4:20 PM
People need to see a real distinction between the parties, no doubt about that. It might be hard in a state like Maine, but there has to be someone up there who can try to do this.
Terrye on October 13, 2009 at 4:20 PM
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mankai on October 13, 2009 at 4:22 PM
Its tough to beat an incumbent, better be very well funded
TheVer on October 13, 2009 at 4:22 PM
Huckamaniacs? as in Huckabee?
I know a lot of conservatives who would never support Huckabee. This is the point. There are people who do not like Romney, or Rudy or Palin or whatever and not all of these people are in the RNC or whatever..there is a tug of war among the rank and file themselves.
Terrye on October 13, 2009 at 4:23 PM
And no big surprise, either. Maine is one of the most left-wing states in the union. The Greens completely control the state. The only surprise is that Snowe ran as a Republican. They must like their socialism in the original color up there.
JDPerren on October 13, 2009 at 4:24 PM
starfleet_dude on October 13, 2009 at 1:26 PM
Hey idiot, Fox News is Fox News. Rush is Rush.
So if Republicans are the Fox News party, how can we only be tolerant of Rush Limbaugh? They are not affiliated with each other. That statement makes no sense.
You must really need attention to have to come on a conservative blog where everyone responds negatively to your stupid comments.
Susanboo on October 13, 2009 at 4:25 PM
The next time I read “What up” by M. Steele, I hope to see a lengthy article on how the pub leadership will revoke her worthless pub status. Kick her butt out!
Chubbs65 on October 13, 2009 at 4:26 PM
Thats something Limbaugh was hollering about…some are saying the parties are no different and all that, he disagrees and uses the point of do you think Healthcare would be on the table now if the Republicans had a majority, no chance. Dont give up the party, take it back! How did this happen?
TheVer on October 13, 2009 at 4:27 PM
I was honestly wondering if someone can be removed because the party does not like the way they vote. I knew that with Stevens there were some legal problems and so that was the reason they used. I honestly am not sure on what grounds a Senator with seniority can be removed from committees and that sort of thing. That was my point.
But the truth is, it does not matter right now as far as this vote is concerned.
Terrye on October 13, 2009 at 4:27 PM
Well … you’re the one saying that we shouldn’t shoot each other in a circular firing squad. I’m not a fan of Huckabee either – but he’s not an Ayatollah so he’s welcome to pick up a musket and fire it with the rest of us.
HondaV65 on October 13, 2009 at 4:27 PM
This is true. If the Republicans controlled the House and sit the agenda, there would not even be a bill like this to vote on. It would not come up.
Terrye on October 13, 2009 at 4:29 PM
That “Fox News Party” bit is fresh!
You’re getting a lot of mileage out of that one, dude.
Take another drag… it’s gonna be a long night.
mankai on October 13, 2009 at 4:30 PM
Sultry Beauty:
WHY PUT THINGS IN CAPS? I AM NOT DEAF.
Terrye
–Or blind, either.
Jimbo3 on October 13, 2009 at 4:31 PM
Unless it was a bill to cut waste.tort reform..portability …ahhh one can dream!
TheVer on October 13, 2009 at 4:31 PM
I sent this email to Steele earlier today.
farright on October 13, 2009 at 4:32 PM
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