AP to Palin: Olympia Snowe’s the real maverick in this party

posted at 8:16 pm on October 13, 2009 by Allahpundit

Really? They acknowledge that her Senate seat is entirely safe, in which case what’s so “mavericky” about casting a vote that (a) ensures a degree of input into the final bill that other Republicans can only envy and (b) earns her the sort of fawning media coverage of which this very piece is a sterling example?

The Palin comparison is useful, though. If Sarahcuda had said something as comically insipid as “When history calls, history calls,” Tina Fey would have an entire skit built around it on SNL this week. As it is, our moronic media’s treating it as some sort of faux-profound rendezvous with destiny.

Forget Sarah Palin. The female maverick of the Republican Party is Sen. Olympia Snowe…

“When history calls, history calls,” Snowe told her colleagues on the Senate Finance Committee, several hours into the debate.

Snowe had kept virtually all of Washington guessing how she would vote, not even letting Obama, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., or Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus of Montana in on her secret. She did call her Republican leader, Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, Tuesday morning to break the news about her plans…

Snowe may face a rough time with her Republican colleagues in the Senate but not necessarily in fiercely independent Maine.

“I don’t think there’s any possible negative political implication,” said Sandy Maisel, director of Goldfarb Center for Public Affairs at Colby College in Waterville, Maine. “She is untouchable electorally in the state of Maine.”

Some maverick. Here she is in all her mavericky glory, giving an exclusive!!! and otherwise substance-less interview to ABC about the process going forward. Exit question: Was there any reason not to tell Obama, Reid, and Baucus in advance how she was voting aside from wanting to bait the media by building a feeling of suspense? Click the image to watch.

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It’s interesting to see that people in Maine are brain dead.

Fantastic. Thanks for the over-generalization.

Slublog on October 13, 2009 at 8:56 PM

Yeah, that’s always a danger. I come from the state that gave the country Al Gore, after all.

ddrintn on October 13, 2009 at 8:59 PM

Slublog on October 13, 2009 at 8:56 PM

In August 2006 she was polling at 68% vs 20% for Bright;[10] in the election she won by an even wider margin. Snowe, garnering 74% of the votes, won by the second-largest margin (after Richard Lugar of Indiana, who didn’t have a Democratic opponent) of any U.S. Senate candidate in the country.

I think the statement was dead on.

DerKrieger on October 13, 2009 at 8:59 PM

AP=EPIC FAIL

unseen on October 13, 2009 at 8:59 PM

I think the statement was dead on.
DerKrieger on October 13, 2009 at 8:59 PM

In that case, do yourself a favor and google “Jean Hay Bright.” Then try to tell me Bright would have been a better senator than Snowe.

Slublog on October 13, 2009 at 9:01 PM

Being from Texas I know a Maverick when I see one…you M’am…are no Maverick!

Spinstra on October 13, 2009 at 9:01 PM

Olympia Snowe is not a maverick.

Olympia Snowe is not a rogue.

Olympia Snowe is a sell-out.

Olympia Snowe betrayed the people who voted for her.

Olympia Snowe betrayed her own party, but then again, she is a member of that party in name only.

Olympia Snowe betrayed the people who turned out in droves at tea party functions and townhalls and who said in one voice that this is a bill that they do not want, and she responded by thumbing her nose at them, at her party, at all of us.

Olympia Snowe is a sell out.

And that is all that she is.

And that is all she will ever be.

pilamaye on October 13, 2009 at 9:01 PM

I didn’t realize that the Senator was Mimbari. That would explain a LOT. ;-)

itzWicks on October 13, 2009 at 9:01 PM

Why would you vote for a person and you can’t tell if it’s a man or a woman, or GOP or Dem?

Why so… ambiguous.

faraway on October 13, 2009 at 9:01 PM

Really, Colin Powell. Tell me more….

HornetSting on October 13, 2009 at 8:59 PM

No, the ball is in your court, friend. I await your explanation.

Proud Rino on October 13, 2009 at 9:02 PM

Today’s mail was a trifecta: “personal” letters from John Cornyn, Michael Steele AND the AARP. What perfect timing. And thanks for the pre-paid return envelopes.

Marcus on October 13, 2009 at 9:02 PM

Really, Colin Powell. Tell me more….

HornetSting on October 13, 2009 at 8:59 PM
No, the ball is in your court, friend. I await your explanation.

Proud Rino on October 13, 2009 at 9:02 PM

I’m not your friend. You voted for obama….you have no credibility to question anything.

HornetSting on October 13, 2009 at 9:03 PM

Ambassador Delenn.

Bishop on October 13, 2009 at 9:03 PM

I want to know exactly what the dems bought her off with for this vote.

Daemonocracy on October 13, 2009 at 8:18 PM

Thirty pieces of silver

Traiterous b*tch!

Flyboy on October 13, 2009 at 9:03 PM

I guess Snowe’s moronic “when history calls, history calls” statement plays better than the real essence of what she said to her Republican colleagues: “Up yours!”

If she is all about answering history’s call, she might better have saved us all the suspense and have simply informed America on Inauguration Night that she’s officially switching her Party affiliation to join The One’s Democratic Party of Hope ‘n’ Change.

clark smith on October 13, 2009 at 9:05 PM

Ummm, who was it, again, who didn’t already know how she was going to vote? Didn’t they basically give her control of 3 or 4 Billion in federal funds to buy her vote during porkulus?

Punditpawn on October 13, 2009 at 9:06 PM

I’m not your friend. You voted for obama….you have no credibility to question anything.

HornetSting on October 13, 2009 at 9:03 PM

Still waiting…

Proud Rino on October 13, 2009 at 9:07 PM

Proud Rino on October 13, 2009 at 8:56 PM

Hate my country? You’re joking right? I come from an entire family of veterans and am a veteran myself. I spent most of my life in or around the military.

It is the Left that hates this country because they are the ones always trying to change it. Their leaders are the ones always trying to confiscate ever larger sums of our hard earned dollars. They are the ones who are always seeking to control more and more of our lives through regulation and unelected bureaucrats.

What I want is to be left alone to take care of myself and my family and for our overbearing government to restrict its activities to those enumerated in the Constitution.

I will not be live my life an indentured servant to the government, regardless of party.

Democrat policies are always a disaster. Always.

I support secession so the Liberals are free to enact ALL of their ignorant ideas and be the only ones forced to suffer under their consequences. Their collapse will be rapid and quite amusing. Maybe then they will learn that socialism does. not. work. Ever.

I love this country and I want it to stay free and strong. Something opposed by the Left.

DerKrieger on October 13, 2009 at 9:07 PM

DerKrieger on October 13, 2009 at 9:07 PM

Very well put.

progressoverpeace on October 13, 2009 at 9:09 PM

DerKrieger on October 13, 2009 at 9:07 PM

You say you love this country, but since there’s a Democrat in power, you want to secede. You say that “the Left” hates this country because “they are the ones always trying to change it.”

It seems to me that, if that’s your criteria, the Left is more patriotic than you are.

Proud Rino on October 13, 2009 at 9:10 PM

I’m not your friend. You voted for obama….you have no credibility to question anything.

HornetSting on October 13, 2009 at 9:03 PM
Still waiting…

Proud Rino on October 13, 2009 at 9:07 PM

See above, nutcup.

HornetSting on October 13, 2009 at 9:12 PM

Hate my country? You’re joking right?

Just to clarify: No, I was not joking. We live in a democratic society. Sometimes the majority doesn’t agree with you. That can be painful, but what you do is try to convince everyone that your way is the better way. Hopefully they’ll believe you. Maybe they won’t, but we all fight another day because we still believe the United States is the best place in the world to live.

But since the GOP has lost the election in 2008, you don’t want to deal with a majority that might sometimes disagree with you, so you want to quit the country.

So, yes, seems like hatred to me.

Proud Rino on October 13, 2009 at 9:12 PM

You say you love this country, but since there’s a Democrat in power, you want to secede. You say that “the Left” hates this country because “they are the ones always trying to change it.”

It seems to me that, if that’s your criteria, the Left is more patriotic than you are.

Proud Rino on October 13, 2009 at 9:10 PM

No, we just don’t want to go down the same shithole that blue states are already going down.

ddrintn on October 13, 2009 at 9:12 PM

Boo hoo – the Decider invaded the wrong country and allowed a black guy named Hussein to become president. Now it’s time to secede! Waaahhhh!!!

simplesimon on October 13, 2009 at 9:14 PM

I don’t see why me voting for Obama in 2008 precludes him from explaining why Sarah Palin telling the truth about what she read would have been a bad idea. If you have an explanation, I’d love to hear it.

Proud Rino on October 13, 2009 at 8:54 PM

If you had a brain, and were well read, two things you obviously are NOT, you’d know the reason Sarah didn’t answer the question is it simply pissed her off, and it took all of her restraint to keep her from reaching out and throttling the Perky One!

gary4205 on October 13, 2009 at 9:14 PM

You voted for obama….you have no credibility to question anything.

HornetSting on October 13, 2009 at 9:03 PM

I don’t see why me voting for Obama in 2008 precludes him from explaining why Sarah Palin telling the truth about what she read would have been a bad idea. If you have an explanation, I’d love to hear it.

Proud Rino on October 13, 2009 at 8:54 PM

Proud Rino on October 13, 2009 at 9:14 PM

Video parody: Senators Boldly Answer Call of History, Say Wazzup! http://optoons.blogspot.com/2009/10/senators-boldly-answer-call-of-history.html

Mervis Winter on October 13, 2009 at 9:14 PM

But since the GOP has lost the election in 2008, you don’t want to deal with a majority that might sometimes disagree with you, so you want to quit the country.

So, yes, seems like hatred to me.

Proud Rino on October 13, 2009 at 9:12 PM

Right now, the majority doesn’t agree with Obama on any major issue; they especially don’t want ObamaCare. But that majority is vilified by those upstanding patriots on the left as “teabaggers”, “white trash”, “neo-Nazis”, “would-be assassins”, whatever.

ddrintn on October 13, 2009 at 9:15 PM

If you had a brain, and were well read, two things you obviously are NOT, you’d know the reason Sarah didn’t answer the question is it simply pissed her off, and it took all of her restraint to keep her from reaching out and throttling the Perky One!

gary4205 on October 13, 2009 at 9:14 PM

If you are punked by Katie Couric you ARE an idiot dontcha know!

simplesimon on October 13, 2009 at 9:15 PM

Thank you, Maine.

Dr. ZhivBlago on October 13, 2009 at 9:16 PM

I still maintain OBAMACARE is DEAD! DEAD! DEAD!

battleoflepanto1571 on October 13, 2009 at 8:20PM

Totally agree with your analysis.

There’s also this working against ObamaCare …

Virginia Gubernatorial Race is now +6 for the Republican.

New Jersey Gubernatorial Race is now +3 for the Republican.

Virgina not so much but if New Jersey goes Red it will be devastating to ObamaCare.

HondaV65 on October 13, 2009 at 9:16 PM

Boo hoo – the Decider invaded the wrong country and allowed a black guy named Hussein to become president. Now it’s time to secede! Waaahhhh!!!

simplesimon on October 13, 2009 at 9:14 PM

We’re not crying. It’s going to be fun watching you guys slowwwwwly pass that razor over your throats. Pass the friggin’ bill already.

ddrintn on October 13, 2009 at 9:17 PM

If you had a brain, and were well read, two things you obviously are NOT, you’d know the reason Sarah didn’t answer the question is it simply pissed her off, and it took all of her restraint to keep her from reaching out and throttling the Perky One!

gary4205 on October 13, 2009 at 9:14 PM

I don’t know if this is the strongest endorsement of Sarah Palin, Gary.

Proud Rino on October 13, 2009 at 9:17 PM

At her age, it was probably nature calling. She just wanted to get the vote over with and get the hell out of there, ‘for she shat herself.

WarEagle01 on October 13, 2009 at 9:17 PM

From Maggie’s Farm:

In considering the motivations of Maine Senator Olympia Snowe’s decision to vote in the Senate Finance Committee in favor of sending its unwritten healthcare bill to the full Senate one should understand that aside from any other reasons Maine would benefit.

Snowe has teeter-tottered, basically desiring an expansion of government health care programs, but the decisive factor may well be that she is a Senator from Maine. Regardless of her political stripe, the best explanation of Senator Snowe’s vote is she wants to bring home the dollars from other states’ taxpayers to provide medical coverage to the voters in her state.

Some of Maine’s latest statistics:

Maine is a gross receiver of $1.41 of federal spending for each dollar of federal taxes paid from the state’s taxpayers.

Maine, however, has one of the highest state and local tax burdens among the states.

Maine’s business tax climate is among the least attractive.

Maine’s Dirigo Health, its attempt at universal health care, is a failure, as in other states. The percent uninsured in Maine did not budge under Dirigo. Dirigo contains a “public” option, which didn’t work, so Senator Snowe has opposed one. She, however, has pushed in the Senate Finance Committee to reduce the penalty for not buying insurance, which together with the guarantee of coverage regardless of health condition will result in increased premiums to those who are insured and make a subsidized government plan more attractive. Similarly, the taxpayers’ or overall costs of the expansion aren’t primary to her.

Politico has a discussion of the leverage Senator Snowe may obtain from her vote. Some of those in favor of a more extreme bill fear that. They needn’t, as now that she has voted in the Finance Committee, her voice can and will be ignored by the Democrat leadership patching up whatever they wish to move forward. That will likely include some sort of sub rosa “public” plan.

AcronisF on October 13, 2009 at 9:18 PM

If you are punked by Katie Couric you ARE an idiot dontcha know!

simplesimon on October 13, 2009 at 9:15 PM

If you’re scared of being interviewed by Hannity you’re an even bigger idiot. And have no balls. Dontcha know.

ddrintn on October 13, 2009 at 9:18 PM

Right now, the majority doesn’t agree with Obama on any major issue; they especially don’t want ObamaCare.

ddrintn on October 13, 2009 at 9:15 PM

And of course, that’s a pretty inaccurate name, isn’t it? Since Obama didn’t write the bill? So I don’t see what your point is. Is it that Americans don’t want health care reform?

Go look at the polling data. See how many Americans want health care reform. And then I’ll accept your apology.

Proud Rino on October 13, 2009 at 9:18 PM

We’re not crying. It’s going to be fun watching you guys slowwwwwly pass that razor over your throats. Pass the friggin’ bill already.

ddrintn on October 13, 2009 at 9:17 PM

What’s the rush? It’s highly entertaining to see ‘real’ america have a breakdown. Wait until the 2nd Amendment goes bye-bye!

simplesimon on October 13, 2009 at 9:19 PM

I think that the acronym RINO has at times been too lightly thrown around. But Olympia Snowe is clearly a RINO, having “earned” that label with her vote first for the multi-trillion dolar deficit spending and now for ObamaCare.

Phil Byler on October 13, 2009 at 9:19 PM

Proud Rino on October 13, 2009 at 9:12 PM

The majority are opposed to the Democrats’ health care plan. That doesn’t seem to be an impediment to the socialists in your party though.

And I shouldn’t have to convince anyone that my way is better. Regarding health care I am merely advocating adherence to the US Constitution which does not give the federal government to take over health care.

The US won’t long be the best place to live if the current leadership is allowed to continue dragging us down the road to serfdom just as Hayek described.

And if this were a simple disagreement that could be reversed in 2010 or 2012 I could muddle through but the takeover of health care is not likely to ever be reversed regardless of the massive cost, increase in dependency on government, and the multitude of other negative consequences that will be introduced. The goal is not to provide the uninsured with health care, the goal is power and control over We the People. If universal coverage were the goal it could be resolved with much less money and less than 100 ages in a simple straight forward bill.

I believe people should suffer the consequences of their mistakes. Unfortunately the “majority” will make us all pay.

DerKrieger on October 13, 2009 at 9:19 PM

I don’t see why me voting for Obama in 2008 precludes him from explaining why Sarah Palin telling the truth about what she read would have been a bad idea. If you have an explanation, I’d love to hear it.

Proud Rino on October 13, 2009 at 8:54 PM
Proud Rino on October 13, 2009 at 9:14 PM

I believe that, either way, she was going to be attacked if she said she read Wash Times instead of WaPo, if she didn’t read NYT, she would be called an idiot by kool aid drinkers like yourself, so it really didn’t matter WHAT she read. You deadheads had already made up your minds about her, based on what the MSM/SNL told you to believe, and you voted for a socialist, so what does it matter?
But, you voting for obama does explain why you are such an idiot.
You fell for the hope, dope.

HornetSting on October 13, 2009 at 9:20 PM

If you’re scared of being interviewed by Hannity you’re an even bigger idiot. And have no balls. Dontcha know.

ddrintn on October 13, 2009 at 9:18 PM

I know, and why is Sarah Palin afraid to be interviewed by Keith Olbermann? What a coward. Dontcha know.

Proud Rino on October 13, 2009 at 9:20 PM

I kind of think it’s funny that people like you hate your country so much that you can’t even get through a whole year with a Democratic president before wanting to completely give up on the United States. Thank God most of your countrymen are made of stronger stuff than you.

Proud Rino on October 13, 2009 at 8:56 PM

Hmmm…nah. PR, you’re too easy a mark. You can’t help it, and I certainly don’t want to take advantage of your vulnerability.
One thing, though – why are y’all so scared sh*tless of Sarah Palin if she’s such a “rube”?

uncivilized on October 13, 2009 at 9:20 PM

AP to Palin: Olympia Snowe’s the real maverick in this party

What’s so mavericky about elitism? Shes just copying the Dems behavior(we know whats good for you better than you know whats good for you).
NannySnowe you gotta go,in case you dont know,your votes really blow. Mmm Mmm Mmm.

canditaylor68 on October 13, 2009 at 9:20 PM

Proud Rino on October 13, 2009 at 9:18 PM

100% of Americans want reform. Less than 50% want the Left’s version of reform. So it really depends on who gets to define the term doesn’t it?

DerKrieger on October 13, 2009 at 9:21 PM

I believe that, either way, she was going to be attacked if she said she read Wash Times instead of WaPo, if she didn’t read NYT, she would be called an idiot by kool aid drinkers like yourself, so it really didn’t matter WHAT she read. You deadheads had already made up your minds about her, based on what the MSM/SNL told you to believe, and you voted for a socialist, so what does it matter?

HornetSting on October 13, 2009 at 9:20 PM

Look! You did it! I’m so proud.

I think she would have been criticized by the Left if she’d said the Washington Times (or whatever). It’s an election – there’s no right answer for anyone. But that’s true of anything anyone says during an election year. It doesn’t mean you don’t answer the questions honestly.

Proud Rino on October 13, 2009 at 9:23 PM

No, the ball is in your court, friend. I await your explanation.

Proud Rino on October 13, 2009 at 9:02 PM

OKAY, here you go:

Katie says “what newspapers do you read?”

Option A) Palin says “my local newspaper in Wasilla; the statewide ADN in Anchorage”

Result of A) reuters/ap headline “VP PICK LIMITS NEWS COVERAGE”, ABC/NBC run few days worth of stories on nightly news including ‘man in the street’ interviews of ‘what do you think about someone who reads the wasilla daily, is she ready to be president?”. late night shows use it as a punch line. “actor peter o toole released an autobiography today. sarah palin refuses to comment until the wasilla reaeder does a cartoon book review of it!”. snl weekeend update, ditto.

Option B Palin says “I read the NYT, WaPo, etc”

Result of Option B Couric probably makes her say it repeatedly right then ‘to be sure’ (because katie cant believe it); the lefty shows and msnbc peddle the idea that palin was just making it up; the whole idea is a preposterous lie, enter snl/late night shows. don’t believe me? look at bush’s reading list from a few summers back. it was released to the media and the ap had a guffaw “this cant be true!!”. the base, if they believe her, is mad; the base, if they don’t believe her, wonder why she lied

Option C Palin says “everything, from the wasilla paper to anchorage’s adn to the nyt to the wapo to the wall street journal to usa today to the la times”

Result C. incredulity. SOOOO… full-time mom of 5, new special needs infant, GOVERNOR, VICE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE— has time to read 6? 7? papers EVERY DAY? repeat result B.

See ProudRino, here’s the thing. You are trying to sound cute and full of integrity saying “tell the truth!”, but you appear to have the mental capacity of an 8 year old because you STILL dont realize that the RULES ARE DIFFERENT FOR REPUBLICANS. it’s why obama getting the lowest real estate deal in the history of the state of illinois is a ‘distraction’ that merits 8 questions, but palin using DONATED clothes (and returning them) is a financial scandal. it’s why biden saying “im proud delaware is a slave state” “you cant go in a 711 without hearing hindi, all these indians” “fdr used to do fireside chats on tv in 1929″ etc etc etc goes UNNOTICED, but palin “russia” thing is viral video and award-winning.

The rules are different for republicans. Grow up.

battleoflepanto1571 on October 13, 2009 at 9:23 PM

That idiot Palin woman was made to look like such a fool by Katie Freaking Couric that she had to go back with Grandpa for a do-over. Never forget – Real America!

“As Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where– where do they go? It’s Alaska. It’s just right over the border.”

You betcha – Pootin’s a’comin!!

simplesimon on October 13, 2009 at 9:23 PM

I believe that, either way, she was going to be attacked if she said she read Wash Times instead of WaPo, if she didn’t read NYT, she would be called an idiot by kool aid drinkers like yourself, so it really didn’t matter WHAT she read. You deadheads had already made up your minds about her, based on what the MSM/SNL told you to believe, and you voted for a socialist, so what does it matter?

HornetSting on October 13, 2009 at 9:20 PM
Look! You did it! I’m so proud.

I think she would have been criticized by the Left if she’d said the Washington Times (or whatever). It’s an election – there’s no right answer for anyone. But that’s true of anything anyone says during an election year. It doesn’t mean you don’t answer the questions honestly.

Proud Rino on October 13, 2009 at 9:23 PM

Go f*ck yourself.

HornetSting on October 13, 2009 at 9:24 PM

One thing, though – why are y’all so scared sh*tless of Sarah Palin if she’s such a “rube”?

uncivilized on October 13, 2009 at 9:20 PM

Oh wow, you quoted it! Great! Now go to the post where I called Sarah Palin a “rube.” Paste a link to it. I can’t wait to see it!

Proud Rino on October 13, 2009 at 9:24 PM

Go f*ck yourself.

HornetSting on October 13, 2009 at 9:24 PM

Stay classy, friend.

Proud Rino on October 13, 2009 at 9:25 PM

United We Fall

DerKrieger on October 13, 2009 at 9:25 PM

I just don’t get the Democrats’ hatred of Sarah Palin. She seems like a nice lady. Someone anyone would like if they got to know her. But for Leftards, it’s visceral hate. I mean, with ridiculing her infant child with downs syndrome to yucking it up about about her daughter getting raped, it’s just awful. I know that hatred goes way back in the Democrat party, what with founding the Klan, and the thousands of lynchings done by Dems. It is the Bull Connor party after all. But, to go after this woman like this in this day and age is just beyond the pale.

WarEagle01 on October 13, 2009 at 9:26 PM

Go f*ck yourself.

HornetSting on October 13, 2009 at 9:24 PM
Stay classy, friend.

Proud Rino on October 13, 2009 at 9:25 PM

Again, I’m not your friend. I don’t consider people that voted for the fascist puppetier a friend, bath tub boy.

HornetSting on October 13, 2009 at 9:26 PM

Again, I’m not your friend. I don’t consider people that voted for the fascist puppetier a friend, bath tub boy.

HornetSting on October 13, 2009 at 9:26 PM

So when you can’t respond civilly, boy you just go straight to the name-calling huh? How’s that working out for you?

Proud Rino on October 13, 2009 at 9:27 PM

Anybody else wonder if “Proud RINO” is really Olympia Snowe?

Hello Senator Snowe, I’d call you a b!tch, a pig, a cow, or a <unt, but that would be an insult to female dogs, swine, bovines, and genitalia.

Sekhmet on October 13, 2009 at 9:27 PM

I know, and why is Sarah Palin afraid to be interviewed by Keith Olbermann? What a coward. Dontcha know.

Proud Rino on October 13, 2009 at 9:20 PM

BARACK OBAMA IS THE PRESIDIENT OF THE UNITED STATES. BARACK OBAMA USED SEAN HANNITY AS A RALLY CRY IN HIS CAMPAIGN. Listen to hannity’s radio opening; like 6 or 7 times obama personally called out hannity and talked about arguing him.

Sarah Palin is a private citizen. To my knowledge, she never whined about olbermann. And Olbermann has on NO GUESTS that DISAGREE with him. (the list: http://www.olbermannwatch.com/archives/2006/05/the_list.php stops in feb 09 but you get the point — about 400 democrats, 3 republicans, all gop there only to bash bush)

Do you not know the difference?

HEY WHY DOESNT BOB DOLE GO ON JIMMY FALLON!!!! THE COWARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

battleoflepanto1571 on October 13, 2009 at 9:27 PM

Stay classy, friend.

Proud Rino on October 13, 2009 at 9:25 PM

Please respond to my 9:23 comment. Which scenario is acceptable for you as a “proud republican”

battleoflepanto1571 on October 13, 2009 at 9:28 PM

Just kick her out of the party. She would do less damage as a democrat.

ray on October 13, 2009 at 9:28 PM

The real maverick?

Uh, no, but the words “squish,” “sell-out,” “commie,” “socialist,” “moonbat” and “traitor” come to mind immediately.

sabu on October 13, 2009 at 9:28 PM

That idiot Palin woman was made to look like such a fool by

Katie Freaking Couric that she had to go back with Grandpa for a do-over. Never forget – Real America!

“As Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where– where do they go? It’s Alaska. It’s just right over the border.”

You betcha – Pootin’s a’comin!!

simplesimon on October 13, 2009 at 9:23 PM

Well, not now anyway. Obama will just bend forward and grab the ankles. Why is Obama afraid of a lightweight like Hannity? huh? Really. Come on.

ddrintn on October 13, 2009 at 9:29 PM

Anybody else wonder if “Proud RINO” is really Olympia Snowe?

Hello Senator Snowe, I’d call you a b!tch, a pig, a cow, or a <unt, but that would be an insult to female dogs, swine, bovines, and genitalia.

Sekhmet on October 13, 2009 at 9:27 PM

So when you can’t respond civilly, boy you just go straight to the name-calling huh? How’s that working out for you?

Proud Rino on October 13, 2009 at 9:27 PM

Proud Rino on October 13, 2009 at 9:29 PM

The US won’t long be the best place to live if the current leadership is allowed to continue dragging us down the road to serfdom just as Hayek described.

DerKrieger on October 13, 2009 at 9:19 PM

You would do well to read Hayek before citing him. Hayek on universal health care in the Road to Serfdom…

Nor is there any reason why the state should not assist the individuals in providing for those common hazards of life against which, because of their uncertainty, few individuals can make adequate provision. Where, as in the case of sickness and accident, neither the desire to avoid such calamities nor the efforts to overcome their consequences are as a rule weakened by the provision of assistance – where, in short, we deal with genuinely insurable risks – the case for the state’s helping to organize a comprehensive system of social insurance is very strong…

crr6 on October 13, 2009 at 9:29 PM

I know, and why is Sarah Palin afraid to be interviewed by Keith Olbermann? What a coward. Dontcha know.

Proud Rino on October 13, 2009 at 9:20 PM

Olbermann never, ever interviews anyone who disagrees with him. Ever. He wouldn’t know how. Even with his degree from Cownell.

WarEagle01 on October 13, 2009 at 9:30 PM

That idiot Palin woman was made to look like such a fool by Katie Freaking Couric that she had to go back with Grandpa for a do-over. Never forget – Real America!

simplesimon on October 13, 2009 at 9:23 PM

….except Katie Couric was so stupid she had to have Obama’s almost-vp sam nunn WRITE THE INTERVIEW FOR HER

WHOOPS!!!!!!!!!

Imagine having huckabee write a chris wallace interview for obama. you would immolate yourself in anger.

guess your side needs ‘extra boosts’ in interviews???

battleoflepanto1571 on October 13, 2009 at 9:30 PM

I know, and why is Sarah Palin afraid to be interviewed by Keith Olbermann? What a coward. Dontcha know.

Proud Rino on October 13, 2009 at 9:20 PM

Olbermann’s too much of a twat to have conservatives on his show. Dontcha know.

ddrintn on October 13, 2009 at 9:30 PM

Please respond to my 9:23 comment. Which scenario is acceptable for you as a “proud republican”

battleoflepanto1571 on October 13, 2009 at 9:28 PM

It’s an election year, dude. Yes, whatever she said was going to get her attacked by the Left, including the things she actually said. Same thing would have and did happen to Obama. The Right attacked him for anything and everything.

That’s how elections work. If you don’t like it, then you should just quit. Sarah Palin took that idea to heart, apparently.

Proud Rino on October 13, 2009 at 9:31 PM

know, and why is Sarah Palin afraid to be interviewed by Keith Olbermann? What a coward. Dontcha know.

Proud Rino on October 13, 2009 at 9:20 PM

Keith olbermann guest list:

http://www.olbermannwatch.com/archives/2006/05/the_list.php

* May 22 (2006): Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
* May 30: Rep Barney Frank (D)
* June 9: Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
* June 15: Bob Schrum (D)
* June 16: Rep John Murtha (D)
* June 19: Al Gore (D)
* June 20: Sen Jack Reed (D)
* June 20: Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
* June 23: Al Gore (D)
* July 5: Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
* July 12: Barbara Boxer (D)
* July 13: Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
* July 26: Bill Richardson (D)
* August 8: Daily Kos (D)
* August 9: Joe Trippi (D)
* August 30: Howard Dean (D)
* August 31: Barbara Boxer (D)
* August 31: Rocky Anderson (D)
* September 5: Tom Kean Jr (R) [speaking against Bush policies]
* September 6: Richard Ben-Veniste (D)
* September 7: Sean Maloney (D)
* September 8: Mack McLarty (D)
* September 11: Max Cleland (D)
* September 20: Jane Hamsher (D)
* September 22: Bill Jefferson Clinton (D)
* September 26: Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
* September 28: Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
* October 16: John Ashcroft (R)
* October 18: Joe Trippi (D)
* October 20: Barack Obama (D)
* October 26: Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
* October 31: Joe Trippi (D)
* November 6: Howard Dean (D)
* November 22: Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
* November 30: Joe Trippi (D)
* December 6: Russ Feingold (D)
* January 3 (2007): Barney Frank (D)
* January 4: John Murtha (D)
* January 4: Jay Rockefeller (D)
* January 11: Russ Feingold (D)
* January 18: George McGovern (D)
* January 23: Hillary Clinton (D)
* January 24: James Webb (D)
* January 24: Hillary Clinton (D)
* February 20: Tammy Duckworth (D)
* February 21: David Boies (D)
* February 27: Patrick Murphy (D)
* March 21: Charles Schumer (D)
* March 22: Patrick Leahy (D)
* April 2: Joe Biden (D)
* April 3: Russ Feingold (D)
* April 6: Madeleine Albright (D)
* May 15: Lanny Davis (D)
* May 29: Al Gore (D)
* June 5: Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
* June 20: Wesley Clark (D)
* June 26: Rahm Emanuel (D)
* July 6: Wesley Clark (D)
* July 12: Wesley Clark (D)
* July 20: John Kerry (D)
* July 26: Wesley Clark (D)
* August 6: Wesley Clark (D)
* August 8: Joe Biden (D)
* August 14: Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
* August 30: Wesley Clark (D)
* September 4: Wesley Clark (D)
* September 12: Chris Dodd (D)
* September 13: Joe Biden (D)
* September 27: Jim Webb (D)
* September 27: Bill Clinton (D)
* September 28: Elizabeth Edwards (D)
* September 28: Bill Clinton (D)
* October 3: John Edwards (D)
* October 11: Hillary Clinton (D)
* October 12: Bill Richardson (D)
* October 24: John Garabendi (D)
* October 29: Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
* November 19: Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
* November 29: John Edwards (D)
* November 30: Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
* December 11: Tim Roemer (D)
* December 14: Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
* December 14: Markos Moulitas (D)
* December 27: Chris Dodd (D)
* January 4 (2008): John Edwards (D)
* January 10: Bill Richardson (D)
* January 11: Rush Holt (D)
* January 23: John Edwards (D)
* February 25: Dee Dee Myers (D)
* March 14: Barack Obama (D)
* March 21: Bill Richardson (D)
* March 31: Chuck Hagel (R) [speaking against Bush policies]
* April 9: Elizabeth Edwards (D)
* April 21: Hillary Clinton (D)
* April 25: James Clyburn (D)
* April 30: Chris Kofinis (D)
* May 1: Joe Andrew (D)
* May 9: Harry Reid (D)
* May 9: James Webb (D)
* May 28: Scott McClellan (R) [speaking against Bush policies]
* June 6: Chris Kofinis (D)
* June 9: Scott McClellan (R) [speaking against Bush policies]
* June 11: John Kerry (D)
* June 20: Chris Kofinis (D)
* June 23: Markos Moulitsas (D)
* June 25: Robert Wexler (D)
* June 30: Jim Webb (D)
* July 1: Chris Kofinis (D)
* July 17: Chris Kofinis (D)
* July 21: Chris Kofinis (D)
* July 22: Chris Kofinis (D)
* July 25: Bob Barr (L)
* July 31: Chris Kofinis (D)
* August 8: Chris Kofinis (D)
* August 12: Chris Kofinis (D)
* August 20: Chris Kofinis (D)
* September 8: Barack Obama (D)
* September 9: Barack Obama (D)
* September 10: Chris Kofinis (D)
* September 12: Markos Moulitsas (D)
* September 15: Chris Kofinis (D)
* September 18: Chris Kofinis (D)
* September 24: Chris Kofinis (D)
* September 25: Rahm Emanuel (D)
* September 26: Robert Gibbs (D)
* September 30: Chris Kofinis (D)
* October 2: Chris Kofinis (D)
* October 2: Claire McCaskill (D)
* October 7: Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D)
* October 8: Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
* October 13: Chris Kofinis (D)
* October 15: Chris Kofinis (D)
* October 15: Rahm Emanuel (D)
* October 16: Chris Kofinis (D)
* October 17: Robert Bauer (D)
* October 23: David Axelrod (D)
* October 27: Chris Kofinis (D)
* October 31: David Axelrod (D)
* November 3: Chris Kofinis (D)
* November 5: Chris Kofinis (D)
* November 13: Chris Kofinis (D)
* November 13: Robert Reich (D)
* November 14: Chris Kofinis (D)
* November 24: Robert Reich (D)
* December 5: Robert Reich (D)
* December 12: Chris Kofinis (D)
* December 23: Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
* January 14 (2009): Scott McClellan (R) [speaking against Bush policies]
* January 15: Scott McClellan (R) [speaking against Bush policies]
* January 23: Stephen Cohen (D)
* January 28: Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
* January 29: Jerrold Nadler (D)
* February 2: Barney Frank (D)
* February 11: Maxine Waters (D)
* February 12: Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
* February 13: Jimmy Carter (D)
* February 18: Shaun Donovan (D)
* February 19: Howard Dean (D)
* February 23: Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D)
* February 24: Robert Gibbs (D)
* February 24: Barbara Boxer (D)
* February 24: Howard Dean (D)
* February 26: Robert Reich (D)

battleoflepanto1571 on October 13, 2009 at 9:32 PM

RSEIUINO,

Snowe deserves both a primary challenge and to lose in the general. Just like I said with Benedict Arlen, there is a big difference between independence and pooch-screwage. The pooch-screwage comes when you throw a monkey wrench in your own party’s well-laid plans. I hope she does defect to your party, so that a real Republican can beat her.

Sekhmet on October 13, 2009 at 9:33 PM

battleoflepanto1571 on October 13, 2009 at 9:32 PM

Wow, I can’t believe all Republicans are such cowards.

Proud Rino on October 13, 2009 at 9:33 PM

It’s an election year, dude. Yes, whatever she said was going to get her attacked by the Left, including the things she actually said. Same thing would have and did happen to Obama. The Right attacked him for anything and everything.

Proud Rino on October 13, 2009 at 9:31 PM

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

when did anyone ask obama what newspapers he read?

or about his drug dealer?

or about rezko?

or about why jeremiah wright’s sermon made his book title?

or why wright baptized his girls, married him and michelle, while cursing this country?

or why he published NOTHING as a ‘law expert’ at u chicago?

or why he released NOTHING from his harvard days?

Yeah, cause barack had REAAAAAL tough questioning.

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH

the best question to obama in the 08 campaign was “how would your mother feel if she was alive today”

battleoflepanto1571 on October 13, 2009 at 9:35 PM

Proud Rino on October 13, 2009 at 9:33 PM

I can’t believe what an odious troll you are Senator Snowe, but don’t let that stop you or anything

Sekhmet on October 13, 2009 at 9:35 PM

Oh wow, you quoted it! Great! Now go to the post where I called Sarah Palin a “rube.” Paste a link to it. I can’t wait to see it!

Proud Rino on October 13, 2009 at 9:24 PM

Y’all. As in “you all“. As in all of you libs who shriek and squeal about what an idiot Palin is, how she doesn’t know NEARLY as much as Dear Liar and Ms. Pelosi et al.
If she didn’t scare you to death, you guys wouldn’t pay her a bit of attention. But she does. She’s not as malleable as, say, Olympia Snowe. You wouldn’t be nearly as successful at buying someone like her off with empty promises, or scaring her with empty threats.
Face it, PR. YOU GUYS (OK? I translated it just for you) are terrified of Palin, and other conservatives like her. Otherwise, you’d ignore her completely.
Clear enough? Or will you need diagrams to go with the above?

uncivilized on October 13, 2009 at 9:35 PM

Again, I’m not your friend. I don’t consider people that voted for the fascist puppetier a friend, bath tub boy.

HornetSting on October 13, 2009 at 9:26 PM
So when you can’t respond civilly, boy you just go straight to the name-calling huh? How’s that working out for you?

Proud Rino on October 13, 2009 at 9:27 PM

How’s that hope and change working out for you? Are you getting more food stamps, free housing, gas in your car from obama and robbing the rich like he promised?

HornetSting on October 13, 2009 at 9:35 PM

Wow, I can’t believe all Republicans are such cowards.

Proud Rino on October 13, 2009 at 9:33 PM

WTF?

Olbermann DOESNT INVITE OR ALLOW REPUBLICANS

sheesh, read some interviews. he turns down requests (whatever few are made)

battleoflepanto1571 on October 13, 2009 at 9:35 PM

Wow, I can’t believe all Republicans are such cowards.

Proud Rino on October 13, 2009 at 9:33 PM

Wow, I believe you and your fellow donks are lying pos.

Blake on October 13, 2009 at 9:35 PM

Proud Rino is the biggest bore.

Blake on October 13, 2009 at 9:36 PM

ProudRino, what’s the last republican you voted for?

battleoflepanto1571 on October 13, 2009 at 9:36 PM

You would do well to read Hayek before citing him.

crr6 on October 13, 2009 at 9:29 PM

Hayek elsewhere:

But there are strong arguments against a single scheme of state insurance; and there seems to be an overwhelming case against free health service for all. From what we have seen of such schemes, it is probable that their inexpediency will become evident in the countries that have adopted them, although political circumstances make it unlikely that they can ever be abandoned, not that they have been adopted. One of the strongest arguments against them is, indeed, that their introduction is the kind of politically irrevocable measure that will have to be continued, whether it proves a mistake or not.

ddrintn on October 13, 2009 at 9:37 PM

Yeah, cause barack had REAAAAAL tough questioning.

battleoflepanto1571 on October 13, 2009 at 9:35 PM

Well if you had a problem with it, then the Republicans must have done a really crappy job running against him. If they don’t raise the questions, the media isn’t going to cover them as much. If you’re going to be angry at someone, be angry at the RNC for running a bad campaign. That’s not Obama’s fault.

Proud Rino on October 13, 2009 at 9:38 PM

ProudRino, what’s the last republican you voted for?

battleoflepanto1571 on October 13, 2009 at 9:36 PM

Bush in 2004. It’s been awhile.

Proud Rino on October 13, 2009 at 9:39 PM

Why bother to reply to trolls, just ignore them.

beachgirlusa on October 13, 2009 at 9:41 PM

See how many Americans want health care reform.

Health care reform? Yes.
This bundle of assorted socialist crap? No.
YOU look at the polls for the answer to this question:
How many people want the current health care bill(s) to become law? Not a generic reform question, but the specific legislation that’s being considered right now.

uncivilized on October 13, 2009 at 9:42 PM

If they don’t raise the questions, the media isn’t going to cover them as much. If you’re going to be angry at someone, be angry at the RNC for running a bad campaign. That’s not Obama’s fault.

Proud Rino on October 13, 2009 at 9:38 PM

Of course it’s not Obama’s fault. He enjoyed that media fellatio.

ddrintn on October 13, 2009 at 9:43 PM

Well if you had a problem with it, then the Republicans must have done a really crappy job running against him. If they don’t raise the questions, the media isn’t going to cover them as much. If you’re going to be angry at someone, be angry at the RNC for running a bad campaign. That’s not Obama’s fault.

Proud Rino on October 13, 2009 at 9:38 PM

You.

MUST.

Be.

Joking.

Seriously? “if only the republicans would raise it the media would cover it???”

Either you’re an idiot or dangerously naiive. The rnc DID ‘ask those questions’, but strangely, the ap/nyt/wapo/tvnews/reuters didn’t want to follow up on our questions? case in point, there were 53 reporters in wasilla within 24 hours of the dayton announcement; 0 in hawaii, indonesia, or in chicago for the purposes of ‘digging’

Give me an example please, where if the RNC had “raised questions”, the “media” would follow?????? For example, John Edwards affair was a media blackout (as was Obama’s alleegeed mistress Vera Baker).

Yet McCain’s lobbyist Vicky whats her name was FRONT PAGE TOP OF THE FOLD NEW YORK TIMES the DAY AFTER mccain got the nomination.

Our media is a corrupt liberal disease. And I honestly don’t believe that you don’t know that.

battleoflepanto1571 on October 13, 2009 at 9:43 PM

But there are strong arguments against a single scheme of state insurance; and there seems to be an overwhelming case against free health service for all. From what we have seen of such schemes, it is probable that their inexpediency will become evident in the countries that have adopted them, although political circumstances make it unlikely that they can ever be abandoned, not that they have been adopted. One of the strongest arguments against them is, indeed, that their introduction is the kind of politically irrevocable measure that will have to be continued, whether it proves a mistake or not.

ddrintn on October 13, 2009 at 9:37 PM

This argues against a single-payer system, not universal health care.

Either way, it looks like your hero was schizophrenic on the issue.

crr6 on October 13, 2009 at 9:43 PM

Why bother to reply to trolls, just ignore them.

beachgirlusa on October 13, 2009 at 9:41 PM

Yeah, I know…

uncivilized on October 13, 2009 at 9:44 PM

Bush in 2004. It’s been awhile.
Proud Rino on October 13, 2009 at 9:39 PM

Oh man, the poop is getting higher in here.

Bishop on October 13, 2009 at 9:45 PM

Face it, PR. YOU GUYS (OK? I translated it just for you) are terrified of Palin, and other conservatives like her.

uncivilized

Yep.

“She’s (Sarah Palin) got more backbone than any man in the Democrat party”….Rush Limbaugh

beachgirlusa on October 13, 2009 at 9:46 PM

This argues against a single-payer system, not universal health care.

Either way, it looks like your hero was schizophrenic on the issue.

crr6 on October 13, 2009 at 9:43 PM

Show me how single-payer isn’t inevitable.

And Hayek is interesting, but not my hero. What’s Marx have to say on the subject? Karl, I mean.

ddrintn on October 13, 2009 at 9:48 PM

WASHINGTON (AP) – Forget Sarah Palin. The female maverick of the Republican Party is Sen. Olympia Snowe.

The 62-year-old, moderate Maine lawmaker voted on Tuesday for a Democratic health care bill, breaking with her party and giving a major boost to President Barack Obama’s drive to expand coverage to millions of Americans.

They might as well change the “Forget” before “Sarah Palin” to another F-word, for it’s clear the other F-word is how the AP–along with the rest of the MSM–feels about SP.

For the AP and the MSM “Maverick” is used to describe traitors to Republican ranks.

No matter how far left a politician goes, the MSM always refers to them as “moderate,” not “liberal.”

Notice how the AP can’t resist turning what’s supposed to be a news piece into a biased, agenda-driven article that could have been churned out by any DNC office across the land. No mention that the bill will bust health care and the economy, lead to rationed treatment, an end to medical innovation, and eventuate in a in-the-crapper quality of health care inadequate for rich and poor alike. No, their be-all-end-all claim about BO’s Health Deform is that it will “expand coverage to millions of Americans.”

I’m amazed that the AP article never employed the words “gutty” or “courageous” to describe their new champion. They flubbed up on that one.

clark smith on October 13, 2009 at 9:50 PM

The beauty of it is, Snowe Bunny thinks the GOP left her.

Stealing Reagan’s line about the Dems won’t help, sweetie.

I’d give anything to vote this Dixie Chick out of office.

NebCon on October 13, 2009 at 9:52 PM

Show me how single-payer isn’t inevitable.

And Hayek is interesting, but not my hero. What’s Marx have to say on the subject? Karl, I mean.

ddrintn on October 13, 2009 at 9:48 PM

shhh!!!

crr6 can’t have an intellectual discussion for more than 3 minutes.

she also can’t see how the insurance market (as-is) is anything BUT a free market right now, so more govt intervention would inevitably lead to TAKEOVER

dont burden crr with “facts”; she only likes sound bites from huffingtonpost

battleoflepanto1571 on October 13, 2009 at 9:52 PM

OMG the AP is not seriously offering up Olympia Snowe as an acceptable offering to us Common Sense Conservatives are tehy??? What a joke!

Isn’t there a Democrat we can flip to our side… a DINO???

CCRWM on October 13, 2009 at 9:55 PM

Isn’t there a Democrat we can flip to our side… a DINO???

CCRWM on October 13, 2009 at 9:55 PM

No, but there are about 7 possible senate seats to be taken by “R”s in 2010, and another 10 or so POSSIBLE senate seats in 2012.

Oh yeah, and ditch Snowe.

battleoflepanto1571 on October 13, 2009 at 9:57 PM

Either way, it looks like your hero was schizophrenic on the issue.

crr6 on October 13, 2009 at 9:43 PM

But “schizophrenic”? That would be your hero, Teh One. You know, the “proponent of single payer health care” who now says “if you like your plan, you can keep your plan”. People can see through that bullshit.

ddrintn on October 13, 2009 at 9:59 PM

Olympia Snowe’s 2008 rating from the American Conservative Union (100 being most conservative):

12.

TWELVE.

By comparison, Bernie Sanders, VT Senator, the senate’s only SOCIALIST, is an 8.

WHY IS SHE A REPUBLICAN?????????????????

battleoflepanto1571 on October 13, 2009 at 9:59 PM

Olympia Snowe has a wide variety of liberal, moderate and conservative views, that result her her voting record not being very much Republican or Democrat. The thing is, I believe she is very popular in Maine, it’s up to Maine voters to make that choice, and if she were defeated in Maine, it seems she would likely be replaced by a moderate Democrat who would add to the Democrats’ majority, and only sometimes vote with Republicans.

So, although Senator Snowe’s repeated votes with the Democrats is infuriating, especially in this case, I don’t see the benefit of doing much more than smacking her for it, then moving on. We need every vote in the Senate now, even one that we cannot rely on all the time, or perhaps no more than half the time.

Loxodonta on October 13, 2009 at 9:59 PM

Bush in 2004. It’s been awhile.

Proud Rino on October 13, 2009 at 9:39 PM

YOU LIE!!

angryed on October 13, 2009 at 10:00 PM

If Sarahcuda had said something as comically insipid as “When history calls, history calls,” Tina Fey would have an entire skit built around it on SNL this week.

Yeah, but if SNL wanted to do an Olypia Snowe skit they couldn’t use Tina Fey. Maybe Christopher Walken with a bad wig and some pearls…

bitsy on October 13, 2009 at 10:03 PM

We need every vote in the Senate now, even one that we cannot rely on all the time, or perhaps no more than half the time.

Loxodonta on October 13, 2009 at 9:59 PM

We need them for what? Come on. If a Republican can’t stand up against first the stimulus bill and now massive government intervention in health care, they just aren’t of any use to anyone but the Democrats.

ddrintn on October 13, 2009 at 10:03 PM

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