California budget goes 10 whole weeks before collapsing
posted at 10:12 am on October 12, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Over the summer, the most populous state in the US struggled to keep itself from financial collapse after a $26 billion hole opened in California’s budget. Instead of taking the painful but necessary step of steep cuts in spending in order to deal with the shortfall, the legislature cut only as far as their political allies would allow, and then relied on funding gimmicks and budget sleight-of-hand to paper over the rest of the shortfall. To the surprise of no one outside of Sacramento, it has only taken ten weeks for California to flop back into the red:
California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger will know within a month whether a $1.1 billion drop in revenue collections is part of a growing budget shortfall or an isolated event, his budget spokesman said.
Revenue in the three months ended Sept. 30 was 5.3 percent less than assumed in the $85 billion annual budget, state controller John Chiang reported yesterday. Income tax receipts led the gap, as unemployment reached 12.2 percent in August. …
The latest figures show that California is facing resurgent fiscal strains brought on by the U.S. recession. Since February, Schwarzenegger and lawmakers have cut $32 billion from spending, raised taxes by $12.5 billion and covered $6 billion more with accounting gimmicks and borrowing. Even with those actions, state budget officials predict an additional $38 billion in deficits in the next three fiscal years combined, including $7.4 billion in the year starting July 1.
How did California overestimate its tax revenues for the coming year? Part of the answer is political. By overestimating income tax revenues, the legislature allowed itself to avoid further budget cuts, or for that matter, tax increases. The latter would have brought California’s overburdened taxpayers to the capital with pitchforks, torches, tar, and feathers, and the legislators know it.
California also has a structural problem in its tax system. It has grown so progressive that it relies much too heavily on investors, which makes tax revenue streams very unreliable and difficult to predict, as the Sacramento Bee’s Dan Walters writes:
We cannot continue to depend on a few thousand high-income Californians as the core of the state revenue structure. Their taxable incomes are increasingly erratic, and sooner or later, many will flee California’s high marginal tax rates to states such as Florida, Nevada or Texas that have no income taxes.
Did Tiger Woods, the first billion-dollar athlete, relocate from California to Florida because of better weather or nicer golf courses? Somehow, one doubts those were his motives. Getting his mail in Florida saves Woods millions of dollars a year.
California gets a quarter of its general fund revenues from fewer than 200,000 wealthy taxpayers whose incomes, tied to capital markets, vary greatly from year to year. That’s why California’s revenues go up and down like a yo-yo and, in turn, why the state periodically wallows in money, overspends and suffers from huge deficits as tax revenue declines.
It’s called “volatility,” and it’s a fairly recent phenomenon. Once, sales taxes were the state’s fiscal backbone. But changes in spending patterns — shifting from taxable goods to untaxed services — and the progressive nature of the income tax dramatically shifted the burden to that tax, which now accounts for well over half of state revenues.
This is something to watch on the federal level as well. Under Barack Obama’s policies, less than half of all Americans will pay federal income tax, making us increasingly reliant on the wealthy, whose income varies greatly from year to year depending on their investment choices and their success. As the actual tax base gets narrower and narrower, the volatility of income-tax revenues increase — on top of the dampening effect that punishing capital investment creates, as we have also seen in California.
The solution? A flat-tax system would create a far more stable tax base, especially as it would tend to encourage rather than discourage investment. Schwarzenegger put together a panel to look at tax volatility and came up with a two-tiered tax system that would shift more of the burden to the middle class, which will probably be a non-starter politically. A flat tax would be politically cleaner as well as easier to administer.
Of course, the big problem in California isn’t taxation, but spending. The state has to go back to the drawing board a mere ten weeks after falsely claiming to have solved the budget crisis. Will they finally learn the lesson?









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moonbatkiller on October 12, 2009 at 10:14 AM
That’s what happens when you shift millions of payments by one day to reduce the red ink in the previous fiscal year.
BadgerHawk on October 12, 2009 at 10:16 AM
Imagine if California had a printing press.
Patrick Ishmael on October 12, 2009 at 10:18 AM
For those who think Arnold Schwarzenegger is doing a poor job as Governor, imagine what will happen if people in California are stupid enough to elect SF Mayor Gavin Newson to the office.
California will collapse within the first three weeks he is in office.
Watch! It WILL happen!
pilamaye on October 12, 2009 at 10:18 AM
I guess I will be receiving an IOU for my CA tax return. Politicians never learn.
txag92 on October 12, 2009 at 10:18 AM
That’s the problem with anarcho-syndicalist collectives.
Akzed on October 12, 2009 at 10:19 AM
My DMV fees on my 10 year old van went from $86 last year up to $114 this year. A plot of the fees from purchase indicates the fee should have been $81. That’s a 40% tax increase on the vehicle. We’re also up to 9.8% sales tax here in LA County. The monkey on the back needs to eat, and, in eating, consumes its mount.
unclesmrgol on October 12, 2009 at 10:21 AM
When Congress bails them out, I say CA is then incorporated into DC (until they pay their debts) and looses their Senators and Representatives. Bummer about some of the good conservatives, though.
LOL! Then again, that would also toss Pelosi out!
batter on October 12, 2009 at 10:21 AM
My mother, a lifelong liberal democrat, STILL puts the blame on Prop 13 from 1978. The government class in CA for an entire generation has flatly refused to impose any kind of discipline in state spending. The problem is compounded by policy and adverse judicial rulings requiring spending on illegals. I can’t see any silver lining or cause for hope in this whole wretched scenario.
jwolf on October 12, 2009 at 10:21 AM
looseslosesDoh!
batter on October 12, 2009 at 10:23 AM
You should have awarded it one of those “shocked! shocked!” awards.
gsherin on October 12, 2009 at 10:23 AM
No. Too big to fail. The other 56 states will bail out CA.
WashJeff on October 12, 2009 at 10:24 AM
Theses people are financial morons. Apparently everyone in California is not aware of any of this. We have friends and relatives out there. The relatives get it, and are frustrated, but are too old to contemplate leaving. One set of friends has moved back to GA, but are still working there. They are Obama voters. All with PhD’s. The other friends are totally oblivious. They even get retirement funds from the state. They have children working for the state. Many have been furloughed and still it doesn’t get them worried. These are life-long friends who I thought had a modicum of common sense. It is beyond comprehension.
BetseyRoss on October 12, 2009 at 10:25 AM
Part of me is hoping he does become Governor. He could drive the final nail in the coffin and hopefully the people of that state would FINALLY wake up. Unfortunately(or fortunately depending on your POV), he’s trailing badly against Jerry Brown.
Doughboy on October 12, 2009 at 10:26 AM
The Democrats won’t cut spending and illegal immigration is a huge problem they won’t address either. Heck when Califonians saw this train wreck coming we tried to get servies for illegals greatly curtailed and maybe end the magnet….Democratic politicians, voted in by the populace, sued the populace to overturn the propositions and then built several new schools for the illegals one of which cost 350 million dollars here in Los Angeles…and they keep right on being voted in. My husband and I have a ten year plan to get out…
CCRWM on October 12, 2009 at 10:27 AM
Head to the Choppa!
Octavia on October 12, 2009 at 10:27 AM
Remember that Obama pointed out California as an amazing example for a Green Economy. Quick….. someone get the Governator and the Prez a Nobel Prize for Economics.
kringeesmom on October 12, 2009 at 10:27 AM
The Governator is the Screwupenator. Why is it so hard for them to cut taxes??
cubachi on October 12, 2009 at 10:28 AM
My state, Wisconsin, is just a smaller version of California when it comes to it’s financial condition. It’s also known as a tax hell, and it’s getting worse. On a list of business friendly states, it’s ranked something like #48, mainly due to excessive tax structure for businesses and as in California’s case, it relies on a very few well to do people to tax into oblivion. It’s amazing to me that anyone with any wealth would remain here. It certainly isn’t for the 8-9 months, it seems, of winter. It’s only a matter of time, until other states, like mine, are crashing and burning financially thanks to ever spending Democrats. It doesn’t help in my case, that the most l east of the Rockies is our capital.
Jeff from WI on October 12, 2009 at 10:28 AM
They’re over analyzing it. They are killing their own economy. It isn’t volatile, it is in decline. If it were volatile, it might go up sometime.
zmdavid on October 12, 2009 at 10:28 AM
liberal
Jeff from WI on October 12, 2009 at 10:28 AM
That’s what happens when you take the adminstrations word for it, that the recession is over.
MarkTheGreat on October 12, 2009 at 10:30 AM
Have they learned their lesson?
Well, no. And they never will.
SuperManGreenLantern on October 12, 2009 at 10:30 AM
Rule by the leftist Democrats has the same affect as pouring salt on a slug . . . the country will simply shrivel up and die. These are dangerous and frightening times.
rplat on October 12, 2009 at 10:30 AM
God help us if Obama bails them(or any state) out. I have a bad feeling a lot of people in other states(especially the red ones) will revolt.
Doughboy on October 12, 2009 at 10:31 AM
No. The liberals in California government will never stop spending. They will run the state off the rails before they stop trying to enrich their constituency.
Theworldisnotenough on October 12, 2009 at 10:32 AM
No
MarkTheGreat on October 12, 2009 at 10:32 AM
Imagine my surprise….
The “revenue” issue will hit most states – and the feds. Wonder why so few talk about it….
darkpixel on October 12, 2009 at 10:32 AM
Vote in a conservative Govt body and within 5 years you will see the state in the Black…..
hawkman on October 12, 2009 at 10:33 AM
When the Atlases shrug then maybe the govenment will listen.
Theworldisnotenough on October 12, 2009 at 10:33 AM
What is the personal income tax structure in WI. In IL it is a constitutionally mandated flat tax (current rate is around 3%), though a Dem Gov candidate is running on amending the constitution to change that.
WashJeff on October 12, 2009 at 10:34 AM
I know right now.
Vashta.Nerada on October 12, 2009 at 10:34 AM
Hey CCRWM
Get out, get out now. We are lifelong Californians who now live in Sweet Home Alabama. We saw the writing on the wall and left 3 years ago. The governor wonders why are tax revenues down over $1 Billion, it’s because all of the people paying the taxes are leaving or going Galt.
ps. just got my property tax bill it’s a whopping $543. our taxes for our very similar home in California were $1700 and climbing….
kringeesmom on October 12, 2009 at 10:35 AM
States going broke too — One of the unintended consequences of payback to whitey Obammunism.
Our state is continuously in the hole now, but they have chosen to cut and cut some more.
CA might want to reassess what all the illegals are costing them. Illegal immigration is just the new slavery the Democrats have instituted.
tarpon on October 12, 2009 at 10:35 AM
Haven’t many states received bailout funds from the current “stimulus”? I keep hearing in IL that our budget issues for this fiscal year are not as bad as they would be becuase of federal funds?
WashJeff on October 12, 2009 at 10:36 AM
I personally know a business owner who approached the gov. office two years ago and said they are looking for some relief, or they are taking their company out of Calif.
He never got a call back from the Gov. office, no assistant ever got back to him.
He called NC and asked for some help, no one ever got back to him, he called Wilmington, NC (his first choice out of state) and no one ever got back to him…he called Florida, and Jeb Bush called him personally and said “What can we do for you?”. He assigned a special assistant, and this owner moved his 400 person, and multi-billion dollar industry to Florida.
Arnold called the owner personally when the move hit the news…and asked what can they do to keep him in California.
Too little, too late…the fact is, most states don’t care about business, except the smart ones.
Arnold and company care about votes, not about solvency…they only think about what to do to get re-elected, not how to make Calif. better…and better means more business.
Almost a 30% drop in manufacturing in the past 7 years in Calif…you can’t run a state on a “service” only mentality of Calif. size.
Thank God for agriculture, the one product you can’t move…and they are making that almost impossible to survive.
right2bright on October 12, 2009 at 10:36 AM
They are already soaking people with the high sales taxes and increased fees and penalties. The income tax is the highest for even the middle class. They just won’t stop spending.
Blake on October 12, 2009 at 10:36 AM
Pro illegals, and anti-business…a recipe for doom.
Unless they change their mentality (and they won’t) there will be just a series of stop gap measures until they get through the next election.
right2bright on October 12, 2009 at 10:38 AM
Give California to Mexico — there are probably as many Mexicans there as Americans anyway. This would be win-win on so many counts:
- Ahnold, Henry Waxman, Diane Feinstein, and Barbara Boxer would be in the Mexican government!
- The Green movement would have to do all its dirty work in Spanish.
- The USA could opt out of the global warming scam.
- Hollywood would become Catholic!
- Conservatives would have more of a chance in U.S. national elections.
- Maybe the rest of the USA could then CLOSE THE BORDER!
Christian Conservative on October 12, 2009 at 10:40 AM
Apparently, neither does the electorate!
larvcom on October 12, 2009 at 10:40 AM
Don’t tax half the population while creating an environment where making profits is very difficult for the other half, and then wonder why the government is broke. These people are brilliant.
forest on October 12, 2009 at 10:41 AM
A lot of states are taking stimulus funds, which we meant to create jobs, mind you, and using them to plus budget gaps.
BadgerHawk on October 12, 2009 at 10:41 AM
Yeah, and now you are probably identified as belonging to a hate group by the SPLC.
Blake on October 12, 2009 at 10:41 AM
It’s an isolated event, the true shorfall is bigger..
the_nile on October 12, 2009 at 10:42 AM
Yes, the porkulus funds are being (mis)used by states to make up budget deficits so bureaucrats can keep their jobs. In effect, porkulus is one giant bailout for all of these irresponsible states.
The problem is that that money is a one-time deal. And as California is proving, if these state governments don’t fundamentally change the way they’re running things, they’ll continue to sink deeper into the red and Obama no longer has the political clout(and after 2010 he won’t have the votes) to come to the rescue again.
Doughboy on October 12, 2009 at 10:43 AM
I hope that the idiots elect Newsome and the whole state craters…
PatriotRider on October 12, 2009 at 10:43 AM
The liberals who inhabit Sacramento live in a bubble. They know how to spend. It will only get worse until they wake up and start making the ‘low wage earners’ give up a little cash so that they also have a stake in what’s happening.
In the next 3 years, Barry is going to find out what Thatcher meant when she commented that socialism works only until you run out of rich people.
GarandFan on October 12, 2009 at 10:43 AM
I am sure those SAVED numerous state paper pushing jobs and preserved their overly generous pensions.
WashJeff on October 12, 2009 at 10:44 AM
California needs to look on the bright side. At least they’re not Michigan. Maybe Gray Davis can make a political comeback.
Percy_Peabody on October 12, 2009 at 10:46 AM
They’ll never learn!
Griz on October 12, 2009 at 10:51 AM
Haven’t many states received bailout funds from the current “stimulus”? I keep hearing in IL that our budget issues for this fiscal year are not as bad as they would be becuase of federal funds?
WashJeff on October 12, 2009 at 10:36 AM
Correct. The bad news is that we in IL get smashed next year unless there is a miraculous economic recovery. Probably the same story in all the states that did this (that is, those states which patched a one time budget balance with fed stimulus money).
jwolf on October 12, 2009 at 10:54 AM
We have a lot of Calif refugees here in TX. Small business owners, medium size business owners. They just got tired of the hostile atmosphere.
I agree with the consensus above that the politicians in Calif have not learned their lesson. Nor have the voters. I foresee a couple more election cycles before that happens.
The same scenario is playing out on the east coast too, though not in as a dramatic fashion. My friend just got back from Vermont, and reported that towns are dead or dying all across New England. Road not being maintained, the whole bit.
catlady on October 12, 2009 at 10:54 AM
There’s a Republican, who was the deciding vote on to the last, and largest tax hike by a state in US history that is going to get recalled for it.
http://www.recalladams.org/
And it looks very much like he’s going to get recalled for breaking his no tax pledge. But unfortunately he is but a symptom of a larger problem. The Republicans in CA sold out and used Adams as a scapegoat but they were all in on it. Adams is STILL defending breaking his pledge and raising taxes and is getting backed by the CA Republican party for fighting the recall. You can’t even count on the republicans to hold the line here. It’s maddening.
oddjob1138 on October 12, 2009 at 10:56 AM
Pretty soon in some of these states the prevailing attitude is going to be “what is there to keep me here?” If industry/jobs have gone away, and you are not in agriculture, then why stay?
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catlady on October 12, 2009 at 10:59 AM
How long before California legalizes drugs so the state can tax them?
suburbanite on October 12, 2009 at 11:02 AM
You had the right idea catlady, you just didn’t go far enough.
Dark-Star on October 12, 2009 at 11:02 AM
Deficits to Arnold:
“I’ll be bock.”
Why not? The multi millionnaires in Hollywood are the very people puishing for the tax increases on everyone else, so soak them first. They’re not going to move out of the state. Leftist bastinos.
UltimateBob on October 12, 2009 at 11:03 AM
Let’s not be too critical of California’s governing class, after all they’re batting 0.192 in the budget sustainability sweepstakes.
Our beloved Congress has been batting 0.000 for many years now.
ya2daup on October 12, 2009 at 11:04 AM
CA has the 7th largest economy on the planet, larger than most nations, and can not balance a budget. And they are annihilating the very people who provide the revinue jobs they need to survive.
My cousin has been in business in San Diego for 26 years, and has 40 employees. (Down from 100 two years ago) He is folding and moving out of state for tax, license fee and regulation relief. He says it is now impossible to reamain solvent in CA.
Memo to CA govt: When under water, you may not want to cut off your air supply. Just sayin.
swede7 on October 12, 2009 at 11:04 AM
In addition to the solutions already given, California, and the nation, could do itself a HUGE favor by drilling for oil and natural gas. It would create jobs, create tax revenue, ease the trade deficit, is good for national security, etc. etc..
But no. We can’t do that. The Earth has a fever! No. The people on the Earth have gone crazy.
How do American citizens look at California and not see that this is what our current leadership has in mind for the rest of the country???
Ordinary1 on October 12, 2009 at 11:05 AM
Does this mean we can now call him Tiger “Gone Gault” Woods?
BioTeachEd on October 12, 2009 at 11:06 AM
It’s only a matter of time with marijuana. As for the more hardcore drugs, I can’t see them legalizing coke or heroin, no matter how hard up they are for revenue.
Doughboy on October 12, 2009 at 11:07 AM
Actually it was Bush’s tax cuts that took a large number of people off the roles. Bush agreed to that as a price for getting the overall reduction in rates passed. As a Bush supporter in most things, I think that was a big mistake. Having half the population not paying income tax makes them natural advocates for increased government spending — after all it’s free.
Even at the price of rate reductions that policy was bad. It will be interesting to see what happens when the Bush’s tax cuts expire in a year or so. My guess is there will be a move from Democrats to allow the top rates to rise while keeping the part that keeps the bottom half from paying any tax.
Buckland on October 12, 2009 at 11:08 AM
If the Baucus “health-care plan” dumps more people into Medicaid, what will this brilliant device do to already strapped state budgets?
After 101 days, PA finally passed a state budget. How soon will Fast Eddie Rendell’s legacy put him into the Obamao Hall of Fame for Permanent Fiscal Irresponsibility?
onlineanalyst on October 12, 2009 at 11:08 AM
Arny and the legislature don’t have time to address their overspending. They are too busy requiring firearms dealers to record ammunition sales!
djtnt on October 12, 2009 at 11:10 AM
Overestimation of revenue is our state pastime.
crosspatch on October 12, 2009 at 11:12 AM
It’s time to cede California back to Mexico before it takes down the whole country. There’s no downside for the United States by doing so.
ya2daup on October 12, 2009 at 11:13 AM
Tiger Woods moved to Flordia a long time ago. I’m sure the tax rate there had something to do with it. That’s what I would have done too…
visions on October 12, 2009 at 11:14 AM
Pot will once again prove to be the gateway drug to harder stuff in a screwy sort of way. Once the stoners and their advocates get that legalized, it will be the foot in the door to getting everything else made legal, on the ‘legalize it and tax it’ argument. The CA gov’t will almost surely follow that path with dollar signs dancing in their heads.
…of course, they won’t get jack squat in tax revenues from legalized drugs, because the drug-sellers will simply continue to operate ‘underground’ to avoid paying taxes. They’re already beating The Man at his own game (capitalism), why give up now.
But just try telling that little truth to them- it’s like trying to argue with a grandmotherly old lady about the validity of her religion. You won’t get anywhere, no matter how hard you try.
Dark-Star on October 12, 2009 at 11:14 AM
Perhaps it will take that long in California. But I hope 2010 will start a resurgence of fiscal conservatives nationally who support spending constraint, tax simplification, and tax reduction to promotes economic growth.
California should be used as a lesson for the rest of the country. And the fact that Barry and the liberal Congress are Californicating our country also needs to be well explained.
Loxodonta on October 12, 2009 at 11:15 AM
I live in california, and all I can say is GOOD !
BURN BABY BURN.
Perhaps the rest of the nations will look at the way the democrats have run this state and say No F*cken way .
ColdWarrior57 on October 12, 2009 at 11:15 AM
No.
The only answer for California is long term.
1.) redistricting based on geography ONLY.
2.) term limits
3.) reduce the rediculous power of public sector labor unions. Right to work? currently a farce. This MUST change.
JusDreamin on October 12, 2009 at 11:18 AM
Keep voting Democrat, Kalifornians!
You deserve it!
DavidM on October 12, 2009 at 11:18 AM
To decline to carry health insurance and yet receive medical treatment is to force those who are insured to pay more.
To be exempt from paying income tax and yet receive governmental services is to force those with higher earnings to pay more.
One of these is “unfair and unsustainable” while the other is “just and progressive”.
Why don’t libs’ heads explode?
ya2daup on October 12, 2009 at 11:21 AM
One downside is that we’d be losing a lot of beautiful coastline.
The upside though (among many) is that, except for Alaska, California is the closest piece of the mainland to rogue nations like Russia or North Korea who are either nuclear already or are in the process of going nuclear. So they would be the most likely to be bombed first.
UltimateBob on October 12, 2009 at 11:23 AM
Probably so, but I rather doubt it will raise tax revinue. The suppliers are now making boatloads of money underground. So when it is legalized, do you really think they’ll be lining up to pay taxes on their income? Me thinks not.
swede7 on October 12, 2009 at 11:24 AM
Ridiculous.
I’m with you there.
BallisticBob on October 12, 2009 at 11:26 AM
Thank God for agriculture, the one product you can’t move…and they are making that almost impossible to survive.
right2bright on October 12, 2009
Aren’t they being hammered by water shortages and increasing costs? BTW, tell Ahnold to keep his stinking paws off our great lakes. I know he eyes them hungrily. He’s just trying to figure out how to get Jug-ears to pay for a pipeline twenty feet in diameter and 2000 miles long.
SKYFOX on October 12, 2009 at 11:39 AM
That’s the problem with anarcho-syndicalist collectives.
Akzed on October 12, 2009 at 10:19 AM
Bravo sir, you have accurately named the enemy that few if any have even heard of, Syndicalism. As any good general will aver, to know your enemy is key to victory. Or, as Patton so famously souted over the din at Kasserine pass in his first engagement with the Desert Fox, “Rommel, you magnificient bastard! I read your book!”
The Enemy we face today is indeed modern Syndicalism, here is an exerpt on this ideology from last August….
“The right has opposed Obama and the left has supported him, on the mistaken belief that Obama was a socialist. I have hesitated to call it as I see it for fear of being labeled a “paranoid,” but. Well now the cat is out of the bag, and media arms of both the right and left are now describing Obama’s authoritarian corporatist proclivities as Fascism. Mussolini described Fascism as, “Everything in the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State”. Subsuming all private endeavors as business of the state’s, and the state’s existence is the sole duty of the individual. Not entirely differing from Obama except that in Obama’s case, he seems to despise the particular state he wishes to rule.
The left has disparaged conservatives as Fascists mistakenly for the last 50 years or so. And while Fritzsche describes Fascism as right-wing populism, originally the word in Italian political history stretches back to the 1890s in the form of fasci, which were radical leftist political factions that proliferated in the decades before World War I. The adoption of this term by the Fascist Party reflected the previous involvement of a number of them in radical left politics. But in practice Mussolini, who we now most associate with fascism, held labor in a subservient position to the corporation. As we can now see with labor’s new prominence , that is not presently the case. So with labor now dominant and the global governance philosophy of the left marginalizing national sovereignty, one might reasonably say that Syndicalism might be a more accurate description of how the Obama administration is conducting itself.
Syndicalism, for those not familiar, is one member of the family of pre-arranged economies, and is the off-spring born of Socialism and Communism if you like. Syndicalism relies on trade unions as the basis of social structure, it is explained by wordiq.com as “A model syndicalist community is as follows. The local unit, the syndicat, would communicate with other syndicats through the bourse de travail (labour exchange). The bourse would handle management and the transfer of commodities.” Sounds strikingly similar to how Obama and the Democrats want to set up a “Health Care Exchange,” does it not?
Syndicalism has a few alterations from the loins of which it emerged. Both Socialism and Communism for instance are centered on the Nation-State as the primary entity shaping policies, where Syndicalism revolves around extra-national trade groups.”
“Mark Twain stated that “History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme” So it might be reasonable to say the Obama model borrows heavily (pun intended) from the Alinsky plan organizationally, a Communist/Socialist vehicle to attain power. Obama has since wielded a somewhat inverted Fascistic marriage of Government, Labor & Industry since coming into office. Where this assumes the shape of Syndicalism is in his alliances with International Trade Unions and Multi-National Corporations as his power base, to the detriment of the Nation State. And it is further evidenced in his selection a vast array of internationalists, like Cass Sunstien and Susan Powers in his staff and ever growing multitude of Czars. Perhaps most starkly depicting his global redistribution aims, is his only bill authored as a U.S. senator, the Global Poverty Act (S.2433) which would allow the U.N. to set foreign assistance levels to come out of American coffers. In effect, making the U.S. Treasury the de facto slush-fund of U.N. largesse
It is all too easy to get caught up in the semantics of all the various “isms.” What is crystal clear, is their commonality of using collectivist priorities in an effort top stamp out any vestige of individualism. And thus the crux of western intellectual thought since the Enlightenment.
It should be noted however, that the only two examples in history where Syndicalism came to power, it rapidly morphed into Communism. Again, from wordiq.com it is stated “Instances of syndicalism in power, during the Spanish Revolution or the 1956 Hungarian Revolution rapidly approach the economic organisation of communism, often within weeks of syndicalists seizing control of social production.”
Whatever the manifestation of “ism” it is that Obamanism eventually is found to represent in the end, no serious person could ever mistake it for free market Capitalism!”
Sorry the links in article won’t transfer in HA’s comment section.
Archimedes on October 12, 2009 at 11:49 AM
You witlessly invite in millions of illegal moochers from other countries to drain your economy and you expect nothing like this to occur?
Californians should have impeached the delusional judges who over-ruled Prop 187, and thereby saved themselves.
They didn’t.
This is the wages they pay for their inaction.
More illegal scofflaws draining their coffers.
And more.
AND MORE.
Bye-bye, Golden State?
profitsbeard on October 12, 2009 at 11:53 AM
But but but MR. ED MORRISEY …
I THOUGHT HOT AIR LOVES CENTRIST REPUBLICANS … LIKE THE GOVERNOR OF CALIFORNIA.
YOU KNOW … THEY GET INDEPENDENT VOTES LIKE SCHWARZZIE.
AND “RIGHT-WING” CONSERVATIVES LIKE SARAH PALIN MUST BE EXPUNGED. JUST ASK ALLAHPUNDIT.
EVEN MCDONNELL MUST CAMPAIGN FOR CENTRISM, RIGHT, TO PANDER VOTES FROM THE INDEPENDENT (READ: CONFUSED).
WHAT DOES HOTAIR REALLY STAND FOR BTW? THIS SPECIFIC ARTICLE DOESN’T CONNECT TO MANY OF AP’S PREVIOUS RANTS ABOUT CONSERVATIVES.
TheAlamos on October 12, 2009 at 11:54 AM
Ed is a bit to the right of Allah. Have to read the author. Wish we had more from the Boss here, but you have to read that at her site where there hasn’t been open registration for months.
Christian Conservative on October 12, 2009 at 12:02 PM
For some reason, the Nobel committee failed to give the Prize in Economics to either Obama or Ahnuld. Go figure!
VanPalin on October 12, 2009 at 12:03 PM
I would think investment-based income streams are also likely to drop precisely when funds are needed the most, during a recession.
But hey, what could go wrong with sticking the rich with the entire bill?
hawksruleva on October 12, 2009 at 12:07 PM
Taxation shot-noise with a significant sampling bias, leading to a highly unstable result.
Count to 10 on October 12, 2009 at 12:10 PM
Baja Norte has an opening for an honest economist
seven on October 12, 2009 at 12:12 PM
I was thinking more like simply giving California to China in exchange for assumption of the state’s debt, and a partial crediting of the federal one. Plus, I’d like to see how thrilled Hollywood is about Leftism after its denizens have had a few years of living under the real deal.
Blacklake on October 12, 2009 at 12:13 PM
From a scene in Total Recall:
[Sharon Stone kicks Ahnold in the gonads]
Ahnold: AAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!
Sharon Stone: That’s for making me come back to “California”…knowing how much I hate this f@$*ing [kicks Ahnold in the face] “state”!
ICBMMan on October 12, 2009 at 12:15 PM
The link to prop 187 is not correct.
Prop 187 would NOT have prevented illegal aliens from receiving public services.
All that prop 187 did was to require public workers that distributed public services to simply count how many illegal aliens were receiving services. This proposition did not, as an example, prevent anyone from receiving services at a hospital emergency room, or access to a public school.
The link you provided is either a ‘mistake’ by someone against illegal immigration, or it is a DELIBERATE lie pushed by the open borders people in order to demonize both the people that voted for it as well as anyone in the courts that would dare to defend it.
As for what happened to it, it was NEVER actually challenged in court. A cherry picked low level judge, ruled against it without even much of a hearing. Part of his arguement was that ‘a higher court would overrule him if necessairy’. When the appeal came up the newly elected governor(grey davis), simply decided to NOT file the appeal.
And that is how the will of the voters of California was tossed aside by the courts and elected officials.
Of course, since then we have had one mad judge after the next pounding their gavels and grabbing as much life and death power over the people of Cal as possible.
Freddy on October 12, 2009 at 12:18 PM
And he did it by accident! That was a quote from Monty Python and the Holyl Grail.
Or, maybe Akzed really knows what he’s talking about. :-) he is, after all, from Delaware.
UltimateBob on October 12, 2009 at 12:19 PM
Mmmmmm….. Sharon Stone.
In the words of Benny Hill, “A woman like that could ruin a guy. If he was lucky.”
UltimateBob on October 12, 2009 at 12:21 PM
We should require legislators to take simple courses in dynamic economics. And pass those courses. Their grades should be part of their name (Barbara Boxer-D-CA F+) The plus being because she attended all of the classes– but she still failed.
Joanie in Carlsbad on October 12, 2009 at 12:23 PM
1/3 of the state’s population is illegal aliens. They pay $0 into the system and take out tens of thousands. Doesn’t matter who the governor is, the system will collapse.
And you can’t blame CA for illegals really. It is the Feds that have done nothing for the past 30 years.
angryed on October 12, 2009 at 12:24 PM
“Will they learn their lesson?” Is that a trick question?
Jdripper on October 12, 2009 at 12:31 PM
California is one giant RNC ad. Everything that’s happening is a direct result of liberal democrat policies.
California is what the rest of the US will look like if the democrats get their way. You simply can’t keep giving out freebies to the non-productive while stealing more and more from the productive. The productive will either quit working or move.
Eminent collapse …
darwin on October 12, 2009 at 12:45 PM
Let’s see….Businesses leaving CA in droves. Tax Paying Citizens leaving in droves.
CA does nothing to promote business. In fact they have passed so much legislation that it has become very difficult to operate business here. Not to mention enviromental laws!
Taxes: One of the highest state in all 50!
Illegal Aliens have created a mojor problem burdening the system. And CA allows them to remain here…..WHY?
CA accounts for 30% of the national welfare…Amaxing!
Highest paid educators and our schools have the highest drop-out rates!
State employees earn too much pay and have to many benefits! Both working and retired.
Too many social programs
State Government just like Federal Government….Way too big!
No wonder they are in the RED!
BigMike252 on October 12, 2009 at 12:46 PM
And he did it by accident! That was a quote from Monty Python and the Holyl Grail.
Or, maybe Akzed really knows what he’s talking about. :-) he is, after all, from Delaware.
UltimateBob on October 12, 2009 at 12:19 PM
Well now, you learn something new everyday. I didn’t recognize that, and I am immensely fond of Monty Python.
Thanks for the heads up.
Archimedes on October 12, 2009 at 12:49 PM
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