CNN: Hey, maybe Obama should stop raising Fox’s ratings

posted at 1:00 pm on October 11, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Or maybe, just maybe, he should start acting … presidential.  Granted, CNN has an economic interest in this ill-advised food fight between Fox and the White House, since it seems to have boosted Fox’s ratings in the same manner that Barack Obama’s direct attacks on Rush Limbaugh made the radio host even more popular.  That doesn’t help CNN, but that doesn’t make the spot-on and unanimous advice from Wolf Blitzer’s panel any less correct:

Mediaite calls this a “stunning moment” — CNN forced to cover its rival as part of its political analysis:

Wolf Blitzer opened the discussion by asking David Gergen if he considered it a smart strategy for the White House to openly call out Fox News. “Its a risky strategy,” he claimed, “and it’s not one that I would advocate.” He continued (echoing thoughts expressed on Mediaite) “If you are going to get very personal against the media you’re going to find that the animosities are just going to deepen, and you’re going to find that you are almost going to draw viewers to people you are attacking. You build them up in some ways, you give them stature.”

Gergen makes some sense, but given the recent and rather stunning decline in CNN’s own viewership, one could easily see this as sour grapes. Perhaps more accurately, the fact that CNN’s covering the affect of opinion journalism is the best indication that traditional journalism is one step behind the opinion media. Which is probably the best explanation of why CNN is getting lapped by FNC.

Well, maybe, but that doesn’t explain why the all-opinion, totally non-journalism model at MSNBC has been tanking during the era of Hopeandchange.  After all, if opinion trumps journalism, then NBC’s alter ego should be sailing to the ratings championship.  Instead, it’s dragging anchor, with its viewership in sharp decline during the Obama administration.

In truth, all three competitors practice mainly opinion journalism.  On MS-NBC, they have zero straight journalism, Fox has its Special Report hour and some business news shows during the day, and CNN does somewhat more of it than Fox.  Fox gets better ratings than before (they were consistently beating both before the election, too) because its opinion journalism offers something different than the Obama Hosannah Hours that appear on CNN and MS-NBC.  Fox offers a product that the other two cablers and the networks don’t offer, which is why their audience continues to grow.

With that kind of product line, it doesn’t hurt to have the White House contributing to the marketing campaign, especially for free.  That’s why the White House campaign is ill-advised, and why it backfires on them.

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Maybe… people don’t like Obama.

Jim Treacher on October 11, 2009 at 1:05 PM

To be serious, CNN needs to drop its whole format and copy Bloomberg news, basically take combine Headline News with its current operation. Straight hard news with less opinion, it would surely do better then the current nonsense.

rob verdi on October 11, 2009 at 1:05 PM

Mmm, mmm, mmm.

Punditpawn on October 11, 2009 at 1:05 PM

The Law of Unintended Consequences strikes again.

iurockhead on October 11, 2009 at 1:06 PM

Mmm,mmm,mmm love it when a plan comes together:)

ohiobabe on October 11, 2009 at 1:07 PM

You build them up in some ways, you give them stature.

Something the Democrats should have realized when they came out whithin hours of Sarah Palin’s choice as John McCain’s running mate, snarkily comparing Palin’s “inexperience” to Barack Obama’s “experience”. Snarky comparisons of “second stringer” to “first stringer” helped Palin’s stature immensely, especially when the comparison revealed that she had actually governed rather than voting “present”.

Additionally, the avoidance of any comparison between Biden and Palin was duly noted as well.

unclesmrgol on October 11, 2009 at 1:09 PM

People love watching a scandal and stories like the ACORN videos or even Van Jones were scandals. When you down play that because you want to “help” the president your ratings are going to suck.

sammypants on October 11, 2009 at 1:09 PM

Chris Wallace nailed it!

Cry Babies!

katy on October 11, 2009 at 1:10 PM

Fox’s ratings are neither Obama’s fault or FOx’s. All other media outlets are simply stenographers of the administration. That is being rejected.

daesleeper on October 11, 2009 at 1:10 PM

Keep it up,barack hussein obama.Your government is falling apart so you TRY to bully and BLAME whomever you can.

ohiobabe on October 11, 2009 at 1:11 PM

I often wonder what Obama’s approval ratings would be if the rest of the media outlets actually did their jobs instead of working as Obama’s propaganda machine?

mizflame98 on October 11, 2009 at 1:12 PM

Hey, if David Gergen is talking I’m there with my notepad.

SteveMG on October 11, 2009 at 1:12 PM

The media has sold it’s credibility to the devil. Credibility is not a renewable resource.

tarpon on October 11, 2009 at 1:13 PM

Hey da smatest man in the Worl’ Yo! Hes a hepin’ his enymies as un strategum! Man de smat ober dere!

No executive experience, no business experience, no economic training, no legislative accomplishments, no foreign policy experience, no military expierence. Perfect President.

Dr_Irish on October 11, 2009 at 1:14 PM

Maybe… people don’t like Obama.

Jim Treacher on October 11, 2009 at 1:05 PM

Blasphemy! Buuurn him!

misterpeasea on October 11, 2009 at 1:15 PM

Obama Hosannah Hours

“Comedy Gold, Jerry!”

Del Dolemonte on October 11, 2009 at 1:15 PM

Fox gets better ratings than before (they were consistently beating both before the election, too) because its opinion journalism offers something different than the Obama Hosannah Hours that appear on CNN and MS-NBC.

Bingo. It’s also why the NYT and WaPo and Time and Newsweek are hurting. You can only take so much ideological sameness echo-chamber garbage.

ddrintn on October 11, 2009 at 1:16 PM

Maybe… people don’t like Obama.

Jim Treacher on October 11, 2009 at 1:05 PM

NO! O.O

Orange Doorhinge on October 11, 2009 at 1:16 PM

Or maybe it’s because CNN’s brainiest brain, Wolf Blitzer, doesn’t have two brain cells to rub together, as demonstrated by his epic fail on Jeopardy.
Either way, I’ll take Glenn Beck, Neil Cavuto over the douchebags on CNN today, tomorrow, and twice on Friday.

HornetSting on October 11, 2009 at 1:17 PM

“If you are going to get very personal against the media you’re going to find that… people will think you’re a whiner.”

FIFY, Dave.

Wethal on October 11, 2009 at 1:17 PM

Maybe… people don’t like Obama.

Jim Treacher on October 11, 2009 at 1:05 PM

Racist. /sarc

HornetSting on October 11, 2009 at 1:18 PM

Never argue with people who buy ink by the barrel full so to speak.

We lack godly wisdom in the White House, that’s one of our problems.

Mojave Mark on October 11, 2009 at 1:18 PM

No executive experience, no business experience, no economic training, no legislative accomplishments, no foreign policy experience, no military expierence. Perfect President.

Dr_Irish on October 11, 2009 at 1:14 PM
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Is it any wonder the state-run media has no credibility?!All of these issues you mention,everyone knew before hand but failed to report.

ohiobabe on October 11, 2009 at 1:18 PM

Fox offers a product that the other two cablers and the networks don’t offer, which is why their audience continues to grow.

Gee….maybe it’s because Fox actually mirrors the majority of people and their feeling on the issues…sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
That always amazed me about Rush, all the pundits running around and trying to find out what makes him popular…well after all these years it is obvious, he reflects, during his show, most people view of politics.
Now how do you transfer that to elections? The Republicans can’t because they haven’t accepted that fact either…

right2bright on October 11, 2009 at 1:19 PM

I often wonder what Obama’s approval ratings would be if the rest of the media outlets actually did their jobs instead of working as Obama’s propaganda machine?

mizflame98 on October 11, 2009 at 1:12 PM

Heck, if they had done that, he never would have been elected in the first place.

Del Dolemonte on October 11, 2009 at 1:19 PM

Now how do you transfer that to elections? The Republicans can’t because they haven’t accepted that fact either…

right2bright on October 11, 2009 at 1:19 PM
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And that concerns me as we head into 2010,the rep.do not get it!

ohiobabe on October 11, 2009 at 1:21 PM

Either way, I’ll take Glenn Beck, Neil Cavuto over the douchebags on CNN today, tomorrow, and twice on Friday.

HornetSting on October 11, 2009 at 1:17 PM

I don’t watch much cable news at all, but I have watched enough to know that Beck, Hannity, O’Reilly, Cavuto, Van Susteren and Smith are all quite different. Blitzer, Maddow, Schultz, Olbermann, Matthews, and Shuster are as interchangeable as Time, Newsweek and NPR. That’s why they’re going down the crapper with the rest of the “state-controlled media”.

ddrintn on October 11, 2009 at 1:22 PM

The media must be mean & wrong, because Obama’s own incompetence could NEVER be the reason. Right?

portlandon on October 11, 2009 at 1:23 PM

Maybe… people don’t like Obama.

Jim Treacher on October 11, 2009 at 1:05 PM

No, people like and want to like him…it’s his policies they don’t like.
For them “not to like” him, they would have to look at themselves as bigots, and they won’t do that.
So they dislike his policies, that they can deal with.
He is wonderful, charismatic, charming, great to have a beer with…but his policies are terrible….it it the only way out without being a “racist”.

right2bright on October 11, 2009 at 1:23 PM

CNN, CBS, NBC, MSNBC and co are very much like the state run-media in the UK – the BBC. Totally in the tank.

But the BBC at least has a reason to suck up to the government – they need it for all their funding, even if they are largely a bunch of leftists and would support the leftist government anyway.

The US networks are simply craven…

Anders on October 11, 2009 at 1:24 PM

I never watched Fox which i used to call Faux until I saw CNN MSNBC NBC attacking Hillary during our primaries. that’s when I realized they were lying frakkers. Hubby and I started watching FOX then and havent stopped.

they lost 1/2 the Dem party and likely all the Indies with their own actions, sorry it took us so long to see they were lying liars.

ginaswo on October 11, 2009 at 1:24 PM

I mean really the Dems say CNN and network news are fact based reporting,uhm NOT, I know what to expect when Hannity is on and after years of CNN I now know they are opinion too, not even opinion, opinion suggests it is reflecting mainstream American AUDIENCE OPINION, That would be what FOX does IMO, what CNN does is present tiny sliver of DC media and artiso journO pundit-ocracy opinion and TELL US that SHOULD be OUR opinion

no thank you!

ginaswo on October 11, 2009 at 1:27 PM

And that concerns me as we head into 2010,the rep.do not get it!

ohiobabe on October 11, 2009 at 1:21 PM

Palin, Rush, Beck, Levin, and some others, all with monster followings…yet no one sits down and says “why”, and taps into that strength.
Instead we have Lindsey Graham, or Steele, or Romney, McCain, boring old style Republicans.
And we ask why???…….

right2bright on October 11, 2009 at 1:27 PM

Maybe… people don’t like Obama.

Jim Treacher on October 11, 2009 at 1:05 PM

Be serious! Quit kidding!

heshtesh on October 11, 2009 at 1:32 PM

Never seen a president who was more obsessed with his own press than this one. GW could have cared less what MSNBC had to say about him, he had more important things to deal with. This president has no idea how childish and petty and paranoid it makes him look to fret over what a news show has to say about him. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he directed to WH to have CNN do its “analysis” of the SNL ski. Of course, the more childish and immature and petty he acts, and the more he continues this huge void of accomplishments, the more Fox will have to talk about. This is just more of ObaME’s narcissism taking priority over the issues that demand attention. Oh yea, Mr. President…any news on the Afghanistan strategy? Our troops would sure rather hear something about that than you being a crybaby about FOX news coverage.

scalleywag on October 11, 2009 at 1:35 PM

“That’s why the White House campaign is ill-advised, and why it backfires on them.”

Everything the White House does backfires on them. I mean, what do you expect from a group of people that thought it was a great idea to buzz lower Manhatten with a 747?

percysunshine on October 11, 2009 at 1:35 PM

Put a pile of excrament in front of a liberal or the liberal media and they will step in it every time. Sometimes back up and step in it again. Wait until the 17th and the “Can You Hear Us Now” people showing up in front of their studios. People are fed up with Washington and the Media. Both are in big decline. Big winners? Conservatives, Talk Radio, Fox News and The AMERICAN PEOPLE. Get involved and take the Country back in 2010!!!

suzyk on October 11, 2009 at 1:35 PM

Instead we have Lindsey Graham, or Steele, or Romney, McCain, boring old style Republicans.
And we ask why???…….

right2bright on October 11, 2009 at 1:27 PM
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Grahamnesty and mccain are siding with the dems.on the issues that conservatives are against.Hopefully they get voted out when the time comes.

ohiobabe on October 11, 2009 at 1:36 PM

The WH hates FOX because they refuse to accept the status quo. They ask real questions. I would love to see Cavuto interview Obama on the economy. After all Obama likens the stock exchange to a poll and refers to profit & earnings ratios. Major Garrett has asked a lot of very provocotive questions of the weasly worm such as “What took you so long?” (on Iran) and the whole Flagmail and Spam. While George S. (with his Websters dix) was on the verge of real hard hitting questions, he dropped the ball. Follow up questions I would have asked on tax issue -1. If refinancing your mortgage is like a tax credit, then why is a fee/fine collected by the IRS not a tax.

On ACORN – 1. If you went through the budget line by line, why are you not aware of the amt of federal dollars going to ACORN?. 2. Could you tell us how much money you have obtained for ACORN during your political career? 3. Who in your adminstration has worked with/for ACORN?

Real questions, Hard questions. It is about time. I am sick of being “enchanted”

kringeesmom on October 11, 2009 at 1:37 PM

heres a thought, maybe people dont like being claled racist or teabaggers and thus do not watch these yahoos…

I know when that moron Cafferty called the midwestern rust belt unemployed the same as the folks who joined Al Qaeda and attacked us on 9/11 I never turned them on again

that after months of every Obama loss being called the race factor in any state south of NY

they think they r so wise and all knowing let them talk to themselves.

ginaswo on October 11, 2009 at 1:39 PM

I think this is a part of the Obama amateurism. It is not just that BO is an amateur himself but his handlers are as well. They knew how to campaign but have no idea how to govern. Lying about what you are going to do if elected is much easier than lying about about what you are actually doing. Or, Treacher could be right…maybe people just don’t like BO and are tired of hearing from the fringe media what they know is not true. I even heard Kirsten Powers call the WH a bunch of crybabies.

d1carter on October 11, 2009 at 1:40 PM

Wait until the 17th and the “Can You Hear Us Now” people showing up in front of their studios. People are fed up with Washington and the Media. Both are in big decline. Big winners? Conservatives, Talk Radio, Fox News and The AMERICAN PEOPLE. Get involved and take the Country back in 2010!!!

suzyk on October 11, 2009 at 1:35 PM

I’ll be present on the 17th LOL. We’re all bringing megaphones and bullhorns. Should be fun!

Key West Reader on October 11, 2009 at 1:41 PM

You know, I think probably a big reason Obama fears the FOX channel is because of “the panel”. They’re not opposed to giving Obama credit where credit is due, and a lot of them, even though they’re conservative, were willing to give him the benefit of a doubt when he was elected. Then came the stimulus, the czars, the health care, Honduras, his silence on Iran, the apology tours, and on and on and on. What is FOX news supposed to do, paint those decisions with rainbows and pixie dust?

scalleywag on October 11, 2009 at 1:42 PM

It isn’t complicated.

Idiots at both end of the economic spectrum support the Moron, and only the idiots at the high end watch news shows. There aren’t many of them.

People who don’t support the Moron are much more likely to be adults and to care about what he is doing to the country. They watch Fox because that is the only place where they can get anything even close to the truth.

It doesn’t have anything to do with commentary vs news. There is no news. It’s all commentary. Only smart people can figure out what the news really is, and there are a lot more smart conservatives than there are smart liberals. In fact, most “liberals” aren’t even idealogical. All they care about is getting freebies. They would vote for conservatives if the conservatives gave them more free stuff.

notagool on October 11, 2009 at 1:43 PM

What I’d like to see on CNN – Investigative report and fact checking on SNL Coneheads.

kringeesmom on October 11, 2009 at 1:43 PM

The White House, like other cookie-cutter liberals, doesn’t believe conservatism is real. Since it is a philosophy held by wingnut extremists, they feel no need to engage it. By the same token, none of the Rush-haters ever listens to his show. If they did they would know he doesn’t have a racist bone in his body. It is much more convenient for them to pack around caricatures and pull one out whenever they want to deliver a nasty ad hominem, their one and only means of argument.

Tyrone Slothrop on October 11, 2009 at 1:43 PM

CNN poor winner their candidate one. Who runs businesses -networks like popularity contests? The real reason Fox beats the competition. Supply and Demand side economics. Turns out America isn’t a secular country, and no one wants to consume green side – socialist economics. This isn’t rocket science or brain surgery “Give People What They Want – Not What You Want”.

Dr Evil on October 11, 2009 at 1:43 PM

rats like Obama are totalitarians .He would pull the plug if he could . Has anyone ever interviewed one of his Con Law students ?

borntoraisehogs on October 11, 2009 at 1:44 PM

After 8 years of the media targeting Bush , it’s too easy to see the sycophantic fawning. That’s why people switch , try some real journalism and you’ll get the viewers back you alphabet channels.

the_nile on October 11, 2009 at 1:44 PM

He is wonderful, charismatic, charming, great to have a beer with…but his policies are terrible….it it the only way out without being a “racist”.

right2bright on October 11, 2009 at 1:23 PM

I’d rather be racist than be forced to like a liar, based on his skin color, R2B. And I don’t like beer either. :)

HornetSting on October 11, 2009 at 1:44 PM

Hey, maybe Teh One should stop being such an anti-free market, pro-socialist, pro-totalitarian thug, anti-Constitutional a$$clown.

That just might calm things down, eh?

Just a thought.

CPT. Charles on October 11, 2009 at 1:45 PM

wahhhhh wahhhhh wahhhhhh – FOX is getting more viewers than all cable news outlets combined. Keep up the good fight CNN.

iam7545 on October 11, 2009 at 1:45 PM

I recall many years of watching Walter Cronkite, in black & white (mind your manners), deliver the news and sign off with “and that’s the way it is”.

The opinion deliverers can’t quite claim the same tag line, nothing even close. Come on, how amusing would it be if there were some “gov’t regulation” honoring the memory of Chronkite that required a tag line twist-off: “and that’s the way I want you to think it is”.

Not to belabor the point, well what the heck, I’ll belabor it. Virtually anything seen on TV these days can legitimately be considered Entertainment thus the beautiful people, dramatic musical intros, lights, color, action. As true as it is, an ugly person delivering a story, including charts, graphs, and photos, in a monotonous drone wouldn’t attract but a couple of viewers, both of them trapped in a radar station in northern Greenland with no other viewing options.

Having a Barnum & Bailey’s appeal seems to have permeated every aspect of the sell. Opinion givers appear to have followed suite. I guess the least moronic with the best pagent wins. Let’s expect the census poll takers to show up with jugglers & lutes as they share their opinions with us as well.

Robert17 on October 11, 2009 at 1:45 PM

they think they r so wise and all knowing let them talk to themselves.

ginaswo on October 11, 2009 at 1:39 PM
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Exactly,that is who they are talking to,noone else cares.Misery loves company:)

ohiobabe on October 11, 2009 at 1:45 PM

What I’d like to see on FOX – (ony Glenn Beck or Gregg Guttfield could get away with it) Interview a cardboard cutout of Obama using Obamas own words, (from weekly address, major speeches etc.) I would laugh so hard I’d spit water, and it would either a. embarras the One into a an appearance or b. put the “war” into overdrive, either way FOX wins because it would be all over all of the other networks.

kringeesmom on October 11, 2009 at 1:49 PM

Or, Treacher could be right…maybe people just don’t like BO and are tired of hearing from the fringe media what they know is not true. I even heard Kirsten Powers call the WH a bunch of crybabies.

d1carter on October 11, 2009 at 1:40 PM

Got an email stating that there’s a big expose’ on Fox tonight at 9pm.

Key West Reader on October 11, 2009 at 1:49 PM

He is wonderful, charismatic, charming, great to have a beer with
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Hope that is sarc.,wonderful?,charimatic?maybe like jim jones the koolaid dude,charming?Ugh!These are not words I would associate with this person who is our president.

ohiobabe on October 11, 2009 at 1:50 PM

Got an email stating that there’s a big expose’ on Fox tonight at 9pm.

Key West Reader on October 11, 2009 at 1:49 PM
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What’s it about,anybody know,another czar getting thrown under the bus?

ohiobabe on October 11, 2009 at 1:53 PM

Fox’s ratings are neither Obama’s fault or FOx’s. All other media outlets are simply stenographers arskissers of the administration. That is being rejected.

daesleeper on October 11, 2009 at 1:10 PM

Schadenfreude on October 11, 2009 at 2:03 PM

Wynn on Fox News Sunday “It’s jobs, stupid”…economy…taxes…2010 will be fun.

Schadenfreude on October 11, 2009 at 2:05 PM

ohiobabe on October 11, 2009 at 1:53 PM

Its probably gerdahole whining about not getting enough of his mexican buddies across the border on Saturday Night.

Old Texan on October 11, 2009 at 2:06 PM

Got an email stating that there’s a big expose’ on Fox tonight at 9pm.

(sniff sniff) I smell a Kevin Jennings bombshell.

Just spitballin’.

radioboyatl on October 11, 2009 at 2:08 PM

should be sailing to the ratings championship. Instead, it’s dragging anchor,

Lots of nautical references. Did Bill Ayers ghost write this?

BDavis on October 11, 2009 at 2:09 PM

Fox offers a product that the other two cablers and the networks don’t offer, which is why their audience continues to grow.

Yeah, it’s called truth!

Christian Conservative on October 11, 2009 at 2:09 PM

I have a novel idea. CNN should simply start reporting the news instead of kissing the administration’s derriere. I know it’s crazy, but it just might work.

jimmy2shoes on October 11, 2009 at 2:10 PM

When the so-called angry mob chants Tell the Truth! Tell the Truth! Tell the Truth! You’d think CNN would realize they have a problem. I hope they FAIL … they deserve to.

redridinghood on October 11, 2009 at 2:12 PM

I don’t know if I liked the president I would watch a different news network but I find Mr. Obama childish, vain, dishonest and out of his league on the world stage. So I guess I am not likely to watch a network that isn’t willing to at least consider these possible faults.

Cindy Munford on October 11, 2009 at 2:15 PM

Obama and his people, in going after Fox News, are just trying the old “pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it” (Alinsky’s rule for radicals #12, I believe). The dems have been trying this for over a decade now with Fox News. It hasn’t worked, mostly because in that same decade all other television news media have shed even the tiniest suggestion of objectivity and have thrown in 100% with the far left wing of the democrat party. Viewers know they’re getting democrat propaganda from ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, and PBS, so when someone tells them they’re getting Republican propaganda from Fox News, most people shrug and say “Hmmm, 1 against 6 or so. I can live with that. In fact, given what the other networks are doing, it seems FAIR to have at least one reporting from the other side.”

Americans have a tremendous sense of fair play. They know that what the MSM has been doing for years is not fair. Survey after survey shows that. What’s more, most surveys show Fox gets just as many democrat viewers as Republican. The emergence of Fox News, for most people, makes the media playing field just a bit more level.

Most people’s reaction to Obama’s criticism of Fox News is something like, “Jeez, does he want all the networks slavishly devoted to him? Can’t he take any criticism at all?” It makes him look weak, fearful, and petty. Once again, he’s taking bad advice from someone.

Rational Thought on October 11, 2009 at 2:17 PM

It’s simple, the Obama Presidency sucks. Those that threw in with his Presidency are going to lose, and lose big. Peaple actually hating Obama grows every day. One network showed the tea parties, (those opposed to our Commie President), the rest were Obama lap dogs, and decided to attack the tea parties and “regular America”. Big VERY STUPID mistake.

Jeff from WI on October 11, 2009 at 2:21 PM

Mr. Wynn “Government has never increased the standard of living of anyone” – made Granholm go potty in her chair. What an eloquent, low-key man, and how effective. HA, make a thread out of this, please.

Schadenfreude on October 11, 2009 at 2:21 PM

Anybody who “fact checks” SNL has got to be composed of idiots who haven’t a freaking clue about much of anything.

ultracon on October 11, 2009 at 2:22 PM

Rational Thought on October 11, 2009 at 2:17 PM

That might be what they are doing but does that make sense? Nothing they say about FOX or Rush or Beck would get my attention away from what this administration’s agenda. And their ability to promote their agenda is failing because of their little sideshows.

Cindy Munford on October 11, 2009 at 2:31 PM

You know, the funny thing is that CNN & MSNBC as well as the non-cable networks MUST have meeting regarding their ratings, or lack there of. As they all fall off, and Fox soars, do you think even one of the exec idiots might actually figure our that the bulk of America, including some people that voted for Obama, do like his or congresses policies.

Jeff from WI on October 11, 2009 at 2:37 PM

Schadenfreude on October 11, 2009 at 2:21 PM

Heh. As we say in the South, Wynn had Gov Granholm “batting her eyes like a frog in a hailstorm”.

d1carter on October 11, 2009 at 2:39 PM

CNN and MSNBO should both have PAID ADVERTISEMENT labels on the bottom corner of the screen instead of their logos.

deadenders on October 11, 2009 at 2:50 PM

Can they be stung from the ratings for Fox’s RedEye at 3 am beats CNN’s 8pm news?

kurtzz3 on October 11, 2009 at 2:51 PM

Hey, if David Gergen is talking I’m there with my notepad.

SteveMG on October 11, 2009 at 1:12 PM

LOL!

Touche for skewering the touchy!

profitsbeard on October 11, 2009 at 2:52 PM

We lack godly wisdom in the White House, that’s one of our problems.

Mojave Mark on October 11, 2009 at 1:18 PM

I would settle for some truth in the White House- the only time we get it is when somebody “slips”.

anniekc on October 11, 2009 at 2:56 PM

I don’t know if I liked the president I would watch a different news network but I find Mr. Obama childish, vain, dishonest and out of his league on the world stage. So I guess I am not likely to watch a network that isn’t willing to at least consider these possible faults.

Cindy Munford on October 11, 2009 at 2:15 PM

Yeah. Everything Cindy said, X2.

anniekc on October 11, 2009 at 2:59 PM

Never seen a president who was more obsessed with his own press than this one.

scalleywag on October 11, 2009 at 1:35 PM

Yeah, Clinton used to whine all the time about Limbaugh…but not the whole press…

CCRWM on October 11, 2009 at 3:08 PM

Gergen: …and you’re going to find that you are almost going to draw viewers to people you are attacking. You build them up in some ways, you give them stature.”

Holy crap, is this not the very arguement we shouldn’t “engage” with dictators like Chavez and Achmadinejad?

The Obtuseness demonstrated by the media and the left (and yes, to me Gergen is of the left) knows no bounds. While they don’t wish to validate their opponents by engaging them, they want us to engage with tyrants who wish us ill!

It speaks markedly as to whose on whose side doesn’t it?

Archimedes on October 11, 2009 at 3:21 PM

Anybody who “fact checks” SNL has got to be composed of idiots who haven’t a freaking clue about much of anything.

ultracon on October 11, 2009 at 2:22 PM

My point exactly, perhaps the “Wild & Crazy” guys at CNN could fact check the “Church Lady” next. Picture it now…. Wolf Blitzer talking about SATAN

kringeesmom on October 11, 2009 at 3:27 PM

Hey, doesn’t anybody like my cardboard cutout interview idea?? I’m laughing all over myself??

I loved Chris Wallace this morning, be sure to catch the re-run!

kringeesmom on October 11, 2009 at 3:29 PM

Fox does have Shepard Smith-gay, bi-polar and liberal and Geraldo Rivera-arrogant, narcissistic and liberal to counter the argument that it is a “conservative” news station-and even Bill O’Reilly is more concerned with ratings than conservative ideology (to get Obama on his show he’d probably come out for the public option.) Glenn Beck is a libertarian who is often as harsh a critic of Bush as he is of Obama. Greta is kinda’ neutral as are most of the rest of the crew. The only true conservative in the bunch is Sean Hannity. So from the very beginning the notion of Fox being “conservative” is false. Fox only APPEARS conservative viz a viz the rest of the tv networks which are rabidly liberal.

Nevertheless Gergen is correct in his analysis that all the whining about “conservative” Fox news draws the American public which is, at least, less liberal than the tv networks, to it.

MaiDee on October 11, 2009 at 3:35 PM

What is Mediaite smoking? CNN is “opinion journalism” and no one wants to hear the opinions of Donna Brazille, Roland Martin, Rick Sanchez, Jeffrey Toobin, Jack Cafferty, Don Lemon and the rest of the Obama glee club at CNN.

OxyCon on October 11, 2009 at 3:37 PM

Got an email stating that there’s a big expose’ on Fox tonight at 9pm.

Key West Reader on October 11, 2009 at 1:49 PM

I’ll be watching….hope it’s good.

yoda on October 11, 2009 at 3:53 PM

Waaaaaahhhh!!!!

Big bad Fox News upsets the B.O.Adminstration!

Waaaaaaaahhhhhh!!!!

From Gibblets to RahmIt, this is the biggest bunch of simpy wimpy girlie-men crybabies I have ever seen gathered in one place in my entire life!

pilamaye on October 11, 2009 at 3:54 PM

Thanks FOX News……..All others, Crawl back under the rock you came from under……..Yeah, And the horse ya road in on too……………

1luckydogg on October 11, 2009 at 4:06 PM

So from the very beginning the notion of Fox being “conservative” is false. Fox only APPEARS conservative viz a viz the rest of the tv networks which are rabidly liberal.

MaiDee on October 11, 2009 at 3:35 PM

Excellent point – Fox is considered conservative because every other network is liberal and blatently pro-Obama.

katiejane on October 11, 2009 at 4:15 PM

The only true conservative in the bunch is Sean Hannity.

MaiDee on October 11, 2009 at 3:35 PM

A strong case can be made for “Fox & Friends” in the morning. I thought Gretchen was going to physically attack L. Davis the other morning. Thankfully, he wasn’t in the NYC.

ny59giants on October 11, 2009 at 4:26 PM

No, people like and want to like him…it’s his policies they don’t like.
For them “not to like” him, they would have to look at themselves as bigots, and they won’t do that.
So they dislike his policies, that they can deal with.
He is wonderful, charismatic, charming, great to have a beer with…but his policies are terrible….it it the only way out without being a “racist”.

I don’t like Obama. I don’t give a flying #%$&! about his skin color, but it’s difficult to like someone who is pushing policies that are going to hurt you and who will not listen to people who object to them on those grounds. And I don’t like his snobbery and empty-headed Marxism, either. He’s not charming or charismatic. He’s a dolt that reads a teleprompter well. I don’t like how he spends the taxpayers’ money like water, as if we should be proud to pay thousands of dollars for his “dates”, while the rest of us are pinching pennies for a night out at McDonald’s. And I don’t like bullies. I think his personality stinks. He annoys the heck out of me, and I think he’s an arrogant jackass. Those are plenty of reasons to dislike him, and the fawning media that support him.

So yes, I think the problem is that people just don’t like him.

hachiban on October 11, 2009 at 4:32 PM

The media has sold it’s credibility to the devil. Credibility is not a renewable resource.

tarpon on October 11, 2009 at 1:13 PM

That’s it in a nutshell. I think it was Bernie Goldberg who said that the media will not allow Obama to be perceived as a failure. Which is why 9.8% unemployment is suddenly not that bad or 250,000 jobs lost in a month is a sign of recovery. Anyone with half a brain knows the economy is in the sh-tter, but the drive-bys cannot concede this because it’ll drag down Obama’s numbers.

With other stories like Van Jones or ACORN, it’s hard for anyone to spin those positively, so the media simply chooses to pretend they don’t exist. But obviously that strategy was a disaster since FoxNews, talk radio, and the blogs hammered away until even Congress had to admit it was a problem.

And the Alinsky tactics aren’t working either. The media may be successful in labeling Rush, FoxNews, and the bloggers as right-wing hacks, but when they go after millions of tea partiers or thousands of town hall attendees, they offend middle America. Why would anyone watch CNN or MSDNC only to hear themselves called a “teabagger”? FoxNews may be over the top at times promoting the tea parties and the opposition to Obama, but at least they aren’t demeaning anyone.

Doughboy on October 11, 2009 at 4:48 PM

Boy, cnn is pathetic. And Doughboy is right: People don’t watch the media to be personally insulted. And though I have a foul mouth myself, I don’t expect to hear profanities or vulgarities from the talking heads.

Blake on October 11, 2009 at 4:50 PM

I blame George Bush.

Bicyea on October 11, 2009 at 4:51 PM

…the White House campaign…

Well put, AP.

ConScribe on October 11, 2009 at 5:08 PM

This administration hag directly attacks the number one cable news network in a manner to silence opposition and first thing out of Gergin’s mouth is “Oh I admire her so, we used to work together, but…..”

Marcus on October 11, 2009 at 5:11 PM

It really comes down to the fact that on Fox News, all comers can express their views, even when it pokes at other FoxNews personalities.

CNN and MSNBC haven’t had a single spot where they take the White House to task on anything substantial.

Meanwhile there are stories out there that aren’t being researched by anyone, Fox Nexs included. Many of the zingers (i.e. ACORN and the pimp/hoe) have been handed to FoxNews because the originators knew they didn’t have a prayer at the other networks (I’d love to be proven wrong on this).

J_Crater on October 11, 2009 at 5:18 PM

It really comes down to the fact that on Fox News, all comers can express their views, even when it pokes at other FoxNews personalities.

CNN and MSNBC haven’t had a single spot where they take the White House to task on anything substantial.

Meanwhile there are stories out there that aren’t being researched by anyone, Fox Nexs included.

Agreed. Fox truly tries to give equal time to both sides of the issues..

Many of the zingers (i.e. ACORN and the pimp/hoe) have been handed to FoxNews because the originators knew they didn’t have a prayer at the other networks (I’d love to be proven wrong on this).

I doubt you’ll be proven wrong on this…

J_Crater on October 11, 2009 at 5:18 PM

Red State State of Mind on October 11, 2009 at 5:22 PM

IMHO CNN is just not interesting or entertaining. They need to determin what people really care to watch. The clip is a perfect example of pure junk.

obleo on October 11, 2009 at 5:22 PM

Frankly, Fox News whoudl put the White House’s and State Depatment’s feet to the fire on Honduras. The reports of a coup now seem to be refuted by Congressional research.

In other words, far from fitting the administration’s description as a “coup d’état,” the report paints Zelaya’s removal as remarkably orderly and legalistic, especially in a region where the rule of law is so tenuous. The Obama administration’s position, predicated on its hasty conclusion that Zelaya’s removal was illegal, now appears squarely contradicted by the only known official analysis of the constitutional issues involved.

Perhaps someday we will get to see that “legal opinion” of the State Department, but apparently it is under “double secret encrypted eyes-only shred before reading with a cherry on top” status and can’t be disturbed until Harry Reid gets his funeral director’s license.

J_Crater on October 11, 2009 at 5:24 PM

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