The Peace Of The Grave

posted at 11:50 am on October 10, 2009 by Doctor Zero

I’m not really surprised by the Nobel committee’s decision to grant the Peace Price to Barack Obama. I assumed they would give it to him at the earliest opportunity. I forgot the award had not been given for this year. It would have been slightly better for their credibility if the Nobel committee had waited until next year, but perhaps they didn’t want to take the chance that current events would make that impossible by the end of 2010. The kind of “peacemaking” favored by the Nobel committee is the kind that usually gets innocent people killed, and frequently ends in the kind of war that comes as an even bigger surprise than Obama’s award.

Obama had been in office for less than two weeks before the Nobel nominations were finalized, so his nomination was not based on anything he had done as President. The Nobel Price long ago became a joke, and an insult to the people who suffer under terror and tyranny around the world, but I don’t think the committee just threw Obama the award because he’s so wonderfully special, and not even because he won the election to succeed the only man who has truly deserved the award since 2001. Maybe Obama won the Nobel because of his courageous youthful defiance of murderous evil, when he was brutally tortured for months but refused to submit to totalitarian brutes? Oh, no, wait, that was the guy he defeated in the election.

The Associated Press says the Nobel committee “praised Obama’s creation of a new climate in international politics, and said he had returned multilateral diplomacy and institutions like the U.N. to the center of the world stage.” Of course, he hasn’t actually changed any of the hated Bush’s foreign policies, until this week, when he began talking about embracing the Taliban savages as partners in peace, who might just deserve to control a big chunk of Afghanistan after all. A while ago, I suggested you could ask the women of Afghanistan for a testimonial to Bush’s achievements in the realm of women’s rights, now that the upholstery has been removed from their faces. You’d better ask quickly. The new Nobel Peace Prize winner doesn’t seem all that disturbed by the thought of seeing them muffled again.

Obama was given the Nobel Prize, not because of anything he has done as President, but because of what the committee thinks he will do. His achievements are as non-existent now as they were on the day he was nominated. His agenda, however, is clear. He spelled it out in that insipid speech he gave to the United Nations a few weeks ago. Speaking as the leader of the indentured world, he made it clear that he plans to dim the lights on an America in decline, and humbly step aside as the post-American century begins. That’s why he won the Peace Prize. The Nobel committee has long seen the United States as the greatest threat to world peace, and the man who plans to bankrupt and disarm it has earned their admiration.

There are only two responses to tyranny: submission and resistance. Submission is easy. It can be negotiated. It is filled with nuance, and requires a large staff of diplomats and state functionaries to administer in style. Organizations like the United Nations make the first concessions to dictatorship by their very nature, as they allow thug states like Iran and Libya to take seats next to peaceful democracies. Obama’s dismal eulogy for America at the U.N. was followed by lunatic rants from the blood-splattered clowns who will be the new masters of the global future. Entertaining such creatures is easy, if you can just ignore the piles of faceless victims buried behind them. You may rest assured that the name Neda Agha-Soltan was not spoken during Obama’s Peace Prize deliberations, and it will not be spoken when the prize is placed into his hands.

Resistance is hard. It requires the courage to call evil by its name, and sacrifice universal adoration in the process. The Left likes to rail against intolerance. The defense of peace and freedom requires the absolute intolerance of evil. It requires leaders who don’t need a few days to decide whether to cancel the Fourth of July picnic invitations of a dictatorship that guns down peacefully protesting citizens. It relies upon a nation with the strength and resolve to project both humanitarian assistance and military power around the world.

Barack Obama’s America, mortgaged to the hilt and several trillion dollars beyond broke, with a stagnant economy trapped in government amber, will no longer be such a nation. The Nobel committee is pleased to reward him for that, because a muscular United States rocks a lot of boats. The “international community” has never forgiven George W. Bush for backing it into a corner over Iraq, and forcing the United Nations to enforce its own resolutions. “Resolution” is harmless and exciting when it’s a word spoken by important diplomats, and scribbled into strongly-worded letters. It’s scary when backed up by forceful leaders who take it seriously.

The cultural and political elite of Europe is delighted to give Obama an award for his bold work in turning America into the same kind of dilettante basket case they are. The people who sat helplessly and watched the slaughter in Bosnia may come to regret sacrificing their last shred of credibility to shore up a weak President, so he can finish the task of hobbling the only nation on Earth that can do a damned thing to prevent a slaughter. Europe thinks it can do business with the Islamic fascism creeping through its streets, but it will find any deals it makes with them have expiration dates, as surely as all of Barack Obama’s promises do. When they once again turn to America to save them, they had better hope we’ve had the wisdom to replace the confused and helpless man clutching his shiny Nobel Peace Prize with someone who can saddle up and ride to the rescue. Negotiation without principle is submission, and the only peace brought by submission is the peace of the grave.

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All things devolve eventually. The notion that the Nobel Peace prize has now officially become nothing but a political tool, not that it wasn’t headed that direction for years.

Heck, maybe it always was.

AnninCA on October 10, 2009 at 11:53 AM

That picture describes him to the T. Looking down his nose at us peasants.

Dingbat63 on October 10, 2009 at 11:54 AM

Next year should be Rev. Wright. Then Osama. These folks are a bad joke.

VegasRick on October 10, 2009 at 11:55 AM

Peace is never acheived through surrender the only outcome is slavery.

William Amos on October 10, 2009 at 11:56 AM

That picture describes him to the T. Looking down his nose at us peasants.

Dingbat63 on October 10, 2009 at 11:54 AM

King! The peasants are revolting!

VegasRick on October 10, 2009 at 11:56 AM

Well said, but the question is, can we still salvage this pending mess in 2013?

karenhasfreedom on October 10, 2009 at 11:58 AM

*zombie Alfred Nobel returns and blows them all to kingdom come with his dynamite*

Orange Doorhinge on October 10, 2009 at 11:58 AM

Great commentary, Dr. Z! You have described it perfectly. Sad but solid. I can’t wait to hear how much George Soros had to grease some wheels for this insult to freedom-loving Americans.

indypat on October 10, 2009 at 12:01 PM

More excellent work, Dr. Z.

clorensen on October 10, 2009 at 12:02 PM

The people on the left end of the political spectrum elected Barack Obama to DO SOMETHING. The people in the middle of the political spectrum elected Barack Obama to BE SOMETHING. That’s why he’s losing support in the middle and gaining outraged frustration on the left.
The left has a coherent set of ideas synthesized into an agenda for action – an ideology. The middle has an album of images as its guide, and has no particular agenda other than feeling better about themselves – no ideology. Thus, with no guide in a storm-tossed political sea, they have no idea what they will support a week from now.

Lew on October 10, 2009 at 12:04 PM

I fear pavilions will die to pay for this Peace Prize.

President Obama has been co-opted; every move he makes will be viewed through the lens of the Nobel Peace Prize. Anything that strikes the left as militancy will cause an outcry the he is dishonoring the award. Since he’s a weather vane, he will go which ever way the wind is blowing.

Millions will lose their freedoms; millions will die as a price for this piece of insanity.

patch on October 10, 2009 at 12:06 PM

Doctor Zero does it again. He or she is one of the great thinkers of our time.

College Prof on October 10, 2009 at 12:06 PM

The international community will never forgive Bush for revealing the dishonesty and corruption beneath it’s hollow pronouncements and demarches.

It really wasn’t the Iraq war. It was Bush showing that all of the talk about the international order and global law were really just tools used by the left to restrain and punish US and Israeli actions.

Nothing more. Nothing less.

For that, Bush must never be forgiven.

SteveMG on October 10, 2009 at 12:06 PM

Here we come Afghanistan Iraq Iran and Libya!

The Calibur on October 10, 2009 at 12:07 PM

Who is Doctor Zero and why do I love reading his green room posts more and more…

StevefromMKE on October 10, 2009 at 12:07 PM

That’s my favorite peace man.

Spathi on October 10, 2009 at 12:07 PM

The people sitting on the Nobel committee and other Euro nitwits like them will scream the loudest for the US to come to their rescue when tyrants try to takeover their miserable little countries. The only thing is after 4 or more, God forbid, years of the Won, we won’t be able to. Where’s another John Wayne when we need one.

Kissmygrits on October 10, 2009 at 12:08 PM

Castro, the Thug, approves of the Obama-Peace-Nobel-prize.

Explains it to perfection.

Schadenfreude on October 10, 2009 at 12:09 PM

Doctor Zero does it again. He or she is one of the great thinkers of our time.

College Prof on October 10, 2009 at 12:06 PM

The good Dr. declared himself a “he” a few days ago.

Schadenfreude on October 10, 2009 at 12:10 PM

It is clear why our Constitution does not allow foreign Governments or groups to bestow gifts of this nature on a sitting President. As the Noble committee says they want to influence future actions of our President. Now lets see if this President will follow the Constitution he took an Oath to protect.

Sanmon on October 10, 2009 at 12:12 PM

Negotiation without principle is submission, and the only peace brought by submission is the peace of the grave.

Profound. Priceless.

Thanks, Doc Z.

TXUS on October 10, 2009 at 12:12 PM

Perhaps Obama will be as magnanimous when he wins the Heisman Trophy this year. And the Oscar. And the Golden Globe. And the…

BackwardsBoy on October 10, 2009 at 12:16 PM

Thanks, Schadenfreude. I am so busy this semester that I get to read and comment only infrequently. Doc Z is one of my faves.

College Prof on October 10, 2009 at 12:16 PM

With the Obama award, the Nobel Prize has devolved into the Pee Wee Herman Pantywaist Prize.

I’m wondering can we survive this Obamageddon without falling into an irreversible downward spiral.

petefrt on October 10, 2009 at 12:18 PM

The Nobel Peace Prize has about as much credibility as the Eurovision Song Contest. For those who are unfamiliar with that annual farce, it’s an embarrassing spectacle broadcast live across Europe in which each country submits an awful, tasteless musical act to represent them, then each country gives their marks out of 12 to the other countries. It has long been known that the scoring is based on virtually everything but the quality of the acts: political animosity, old grudges, new grudges and just about every other motive you’d expect from a continent full of smug leftists who secretly despise each other.

So I was as surprised to see Obama handed this award as I was to see France give Britain “nil points” at Eurovision.

Sharke on October 10, 2009 at 12:22 PM

Love the photo. Does he have a nosebleed?

Puddleglum on October 10, 2009 at 12:23 PM

Any Peace Prize that disregards Gandhi and gives the award to Arafat and Carter is an unserious award. This award to Obama has only accelerated its unseriousness.
They should have given the award to the Prime Minister of Sri Lanka who has put down one of the most serious terrorist organizations in the world this year but that would require the award to have some substance.

nyx on October 10, 2009 at 12:23 PM

Love the photo. Does he have a nosebleed?

Puddleglum on October 10, 2009 at 12:23 PM

No, it’s just Barney Frank kneeling before him.

Sharke on October 10, 2009 at 12:24 PM

Thank you for being the wordsmith that you are, Doctor. Excellent post, as usual. Yesterday, people all over the world shouted in unison, “Obama? But, he hasn’t done anything!”

kingsjester on October 10, 2009 at 12:25 PM

Great article by the way Dr. Zero.

Can we stop calling him/her Dr. Z though? Just for the benefit of those of us in New York City to whom Dr. Z is the infamous Dr. Zizmor, subway dermatologist.

Sharke on October 10, 2009 at 12:25 PM

Another home run.

Bob's Kid on October 10, 2009 at 12:26 PM

I copy Dr. Zero’s articles and send them to my friends. He is always right on the mark.
It is truly scary what the U.S. is becoming and what our future holds….God Save Us!!

whatzit2u on October 10, 2009 at 12:29 PM

Obama was given the Nobel Prize, not because of anything he has done as President, but because of what the committee thinks he will do.

That doesn’t say much for the observational skills of the members of the committee. Anyone who’s been paying attention to Obama for his first nine months in office knows he hasn’t done anything of merit. Using his presidential track record as a guide one can easily conclude he will continue to do nothing, other than stroke his oversized ego.

Then again I could be completely wrong. Perhaps it is that the committee loved everyone of his bash America speeches and fully expects Obama to deliver more of these, with even more passion and hatred for his home country.

That’s something the Nobel weasels can get behind.

fogw on October 10, 2009 at 12:30 PM

I feel like I have a blogging hangover from all of this.

Mr. Joe on October 10, 2009 at 12:33 PM

Nice work, Doc!

Tony737 on October 10, 2009 at 12:33 PM

Europe thinks it can do business with the Islamic fascism creeping through its streets, but it will find any deals it makes with them have expiration dates.

Agreements negotiated with INFIDELS (a.k.a. the Devil) are NON-Binding.

Islam views compassion as a weakness. But hey, you’re a slave – you don’t need compassion, you have Allah – compassion is his job not yours! Compassion is the Achilles Heel of western culture and western religion and should be exploited at every opportunity. Losers are always defeated by their OWN dogma, not the other guy’s! (Can you say Political Correctness?)

WINNERS WIN! Loosers Negotiate.

Pole-Cat on October 10, 2009 at 12:34 PM

The kind of “peacemaking” favored by the Nobel committee is the kind that usually gets innocent people killed, and frequently ends in the kind of war that comes as an even bigger surprise than Obama’s award.

Win.

spmat on October 10, 2009 at 12:39 PM

Resistance is hard.

No, resistance is futile. YOU will be assimilated. They’re coming for you.

Oldnuke on October 10, 2009 at 12:42 PM

That picture describes him to the T. Looking down his nose at us peasants.

Dingbat63 on October 10, 2009 at 11:54 AM

Has anyone else noticed that every time someone takes a picture of Obama standing by himself, his nose is always up in the air? It may not always be to the degree that it is shown here, but it’s always up there. The man cannot help it, he is just superior to the rest of us. /sarc

In so much as the press seem to love him, their pictures of him, (in my opinion), show him in a different light. Perhaps it is subliminal, and they really think, as many of us do, that Obama is a pompous a**.

Susanboo on October 10, 2009 at 12:43 PM

The world loves Obama, and bestows a Nobel-Peace prize on him, because they love America as just another Banana Republic.

Be proud U.S. Americans. Wake up!

Schadenfreude on October 10, 2009 at 12:45 PM

Know it or not, the Nobel committee just BOUGHT Obama, lock, stock and barrel. He now has the basis for ending the entire effort against terrorism; bringing every soldier, sailor and airman home, and thus justifying the acclaim of the “world”.

Get ready, America….We’re going to get hit again, and the next time will be far more devastating than 09-11-01.

GoldenEagle4444 on October 10, 2009 at 12:45 PM

Negotiation without principle is submission, and the only peace brought by submission is the peace of the grave.

That needs to be engraved somewhere.

/Perhaps on Obama’s forehead.

Great article, Dr. Zero…. You rock!

Key West Reader on October 10, 2009 at 12:46 PM

Using his presidential track record as a guide one can easily conclude he will continue to do nothing, other than stroke his oversized ego.

fogw on October 10, 2009 at 12:30 PM

May it be so! It w/b the least detrimental to America.

Schadenfreude on October 10, 2009 at 12:47 PM

With the Obama award, the Nobel Prize has devolved into the Pee Wee Herman Pantywaist Prize.

I’m wondering can we survive this Obamageddon without falling into an irreversible downward spiral.

petefrt on October 10, 2009 at 12:18 PM

Faraway and I determined on another thread at HA, that the Nobel Peace Prize should now be called the “Obama for Hope & Change Prize”.

Susanboo on October 10, 2009 at 12:50 PM

I thought I recognized that pose.

http://biografieonline.it/img/bio/b/Benito_Mussolini.jpg

ROCnPhilly on October 10, 2009 at 12:51 PM

The clueless committee should just rename the Nobel Peace Prize the “Not George W. Bush Prize”.

Dr. Zero, excellent article as usual.

yoda on October 10, 2009 at 12:52 PM

Doc Z is one of my faves.

College Prof on October 10, 2009 at 12:16 PM

Mine too, indeed. And you, College Prof, are a rarely good one too, of the lost college profs of today. Thank you!!!

Schadenfreude on October 10, 2009 at 12:52 PM

Doctor Zero,

This is one of the worst posts I’ve ever seen here and certainly the worst by you. Read what you’re saying here. You are saying that the Norwegian government (the cultural and political elite of Europe?) are making an anti-American gesture and that they are doing so by conferring an award on the President of the United States.

The fact is that the Nobel Savage was elected to office by the American people. This man is the man who represents *you* on the world stage. Barack Obama’s America is the one that you (collectively) voted for and that would be true even if he turned out to be from Indonesia. If America is turning into a basket case it’s because of Americans.

aengus on October 10, 2009 at 12:54 PM

“The defense of peace and freedom requires the absolute intolerance of evil.”

We are fighting for our own freedoms now, and that fight will intensify as more and more people realize the enemy is within the halls of Congress.

itsacookbook on October 10, 2009 at 12:55 PM

Oddly, my liberal tendencies correlate with conservatives.

I sense a real time of ignoring all human rights in the world. Now, I’m sure not one to suggest war lightly.

However, I can see we’re throwing the lambs to the wolves now.

And that’s really European thinking. They are extremely truly racist/prejudiced. That’s what people in the US still don’t quite grasp. Europe is very provencial in thinking.

The US is still rather in awe of European thinking. I guess it goes back in time, feeling like the rubes.

But seriously, this award is truly a slap in the face, not of Obama. He’s not at fault. It’s a slap in the face of so many people right now, under fire, about to be extinguished.

There will be no rescue mission.

AnninCA on October 10, 2009 at 12:58 PM

Let me again raise my voice in asking, no DEMANDING that Dr. Zero be permanently promoted to the main page alongside AP and Ed.

Religious_Zealot on October 10, 2009 at 1:00 PM

Dr. Zero, you rock.

I started reading that article w/out noticing the author. When I got done, I thought this must be the latest post from ‘Z and I was right.

PackerBronco on October 10, 2009 at 1:01 PM

The Nobel Peace Prize won by a man whose worldview will create more, dirtier wars. Orwell would be proud.

cpr on October 10, 2009 at 1:02 PM

Oddly, my liberal tendencies correlate with conservatives.
AnninCA on October 10, 2009 at 12:58 PM

AnninCA you’re a good egg but you need to realize that the modern liberal tendency is to promote the welfare of the state over the welfare of the individual because it is mistakenly believed that only the state can bring about utopia.

You’re looking at classic 19th century liberalism and thinking that it is related to the twisted deformed creature that wears the Liberal tag today. It doesn’t.

PackerBronco on October 10, 2009 at 1:05 PM

The cultural and political elite of Europe is delighted to give Obama an award for his bold work in turning America into the same kind of dilettante basket case they are.

Nailed it. Well done Dr Z

CarolynM on October 10, 2009 at 1:08 PM

The Nobel Prize For Peace is a joke, was a joke, and always will be a joke.

From the
http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/shortfacts.html
“the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses”.

thmsmgnm on October 10, 2009 at 1:10 PM

Dr. Z for President!

sandee on October 10, 2009 at 1:11 PM

If America is turning into a basket case it’s because of Americans.

aengus on October 10, 2009 at 12:54 PM

It’s because of certain Americans with a European mindset. Please don’t lump us all together.

fogw on October 10, 2009 at 1:12 PM

And that’s really European thinking. They are extremely truly racist/prejudiced. That’s what people in the US still don’t quite grasp. Europe is very provencial in thinking.

Anecdotally, I’ve “sensed” something like that in my conversations with European friends/co-workers.

Perhaps not racism as much as ethnocentrism; the view that those other “alien” cultures simply must be left alone. Almost neo-colonial in their viewpoint without the colonization (if you will).

Ironically, they embrace multi-culturalism domestically; but ethno-culturalism when applied abroad.

SteveMG on October 10, 2009 at 1:13 PM

It’s because of certain Americans with a European mindset. Please don’t lump us all together.

Well, who put them in power?

At least 50%+1 of us.

SteveMG on October 10, 2009 at 1:14 PM

Well said, Dr. Z.

dogsoldier on October 10, 2009 at 1:15 PM

Let me again raise my voice in asking, no DEMANDING that Dr. Zero be permanently promoted to the main page alongside AP and Ed.

Religious_Zealot on October 10, 2009 at 1:00 PM

Absent the word demand, I agree. Dr. Zero’s work is as good as any other writing here.

However, I do get the distinction that it is opinion writing and not news, so maybe that restricts it to the Green Room, but based on quality, it earns front page postings.

Spirit of 1776 on October 10, 2009 at 1:15 PM

You’re looking at classic 19th century liberalism and thinking that it is related to the twisted deformed creature that wears the Liberal tag today. It doesn’t.

PackerBronco on October 10, 2009 at 1:05 PM

I have rather sensed I’m THAT far out of current liberal thinking. *haha

Discouraging, eh?

AnninCA on October 10, 2009 at 1:15 PM

You want to know which European Country that still prohibited “dark-skinned people” from a hotel room in the 1980′s?

Austria.

*rolling my eyes*

And, I have to say, European centers are incredibly prejudiced.

They have a huge problem with immigration, not unlike we do with Mexico.

But make no mistake.

They are as prejudiced, if not more, than the US.

AnninCA on October 10, 2009 at 1:20 PM

Well, who put them in power?

At least 50%+1 of us.

SteveMG on October 10, 2009 at 1:14 PM

That’s exactly right.

Over 50% of the voters in this country voted for a president with a socialist agenda.That didn’t include me! That didn’t include everyone.

Saying Americans are responsible is horse-hockey. Americans, real Americans, are not weak-kneed socialists wanting the government to look out for their every need.

Sheesh.

fogw on October 10, 2009 at 1:24 PM

AnninCA on October 10, 2009 at 1:15 PM

I may disagree with much of it, but there’s nothing unworthy of respect in classic liberalism, in my book. It’s the perversion of it into collectivist, elitist, totalitarian statism (often called ‘progressivism’) that’s unworthy of respect. That, not classic liberalism, is the fire that’s burning down our house.

petefrt on October 10, 2009 at 1:27 PM

include me! That didn’t include everyone.

Saying Americans are responsible is horse-hockey. Americans, real Americans, are not weak-kneed socialists wanting the government to look out for their every need.

Sheesh.

fogw on October 10, 2009 at 1:24 PM

Oh, I think they would. What’s blocking this is reality.

Europe is in terrible straits due to their own post-WWII socialist programs.

They have struggled to compete.

And right now, they are in dire straits.

That is actually the information that is holding people back. In terms of healthcare alone, frankly, they win, hands down.

The question for all of society is: What’s the price.

Nothing is free.

AnninCA on October 10, 2009 at 1:28 PM

Saying Americans are responsible is horse-hockey

Well, I think he was just using a sort of shorthand.

It’s easier to say “Americans elected Obama” than say “most Americans elected him” or whatever phrasing one can think of.

SteveMG on October 10, 2009 at 1:28 PM

may disagree with much of it, but there’s nothing unworthy of respect in classic liberalism, in my book. It’s the perversion of it into collectivist, elitist, totalitarian statism (often called ‘progressivism’) that’s unworthy of respect. That, not classic liberalism, is the fire that’s burning down our house.

petefrt on October 10, 2009 at 1:27 PM

Oh, there is no liberalism in sight, as far as I am personally concerned.

I turned over every rock, too.

Let’s just take Obama’s great gay speech today. I heard him in Alabama in the primaries.

He reassured voters there, in a Black church, that he was against gay marriage.

Hello? Do you think a liberal like me is going to ignore that?

AnninCA on October 10, 2009 at 1:30 PM

Heck, let me go one step further.

Cheney is more liberal on gay rights than Obama.

At least he supported his daughter, in good faith.

AnninCA on October 10, 2009 at 1:31 PM

Great work by Doctor Zero, as usual.

DarkCurrent on October 10, 2009 at 1:31 PM

Norway’s experience in WWII was to be self-delusional, get run over by Hitler, then wait for rescue. Hardly a recipe for success that they should demand their rescuers follow.

DANEgerus on October 10, 2009 at 1:32 PM

Oddly, my liberal tendencies correlate with conservatives.
AnninCA on October 10, 2009 at 12:58 PM

Ann, most of the time I don’t agree with you. But after studying your posts we might be alike in some ways. For example: I am one to ‘live and let live’. I don’t judge others’ behaviors, actions, lifestyles or religious beliefs. Only God or ___ (insert your higher power here) can judge people. I know you have children as do I. I raise mine in the spirit of what I know, which is not to judge lest ye be judged by the same measure, seven fold.

Where we differ, is over the fact that barack was elected because of what he is, and not WHO he is. Americans are finding out WHO he is and we do not like it. He deceived this Nation to win an election. I don’t like being deceived, nor do my neighbors. He and his wife are elitist leftist socialists who campaigned on lies and promises that he cannot and will not deliver.

His election has left millions bewildered. “Where’s my Obama Dollars”. Where’s my free rent, and my free car and my free food and my free furniture and my free kitchen? The backlash will be enormous in 2010 and I hope that you will join your fellow Americans in showing Mr. Obama’s agenda the door.

Key West Reader on October 10, 2009 at 1:34 PM

Who is Doctor Zero and why do I love reading his green room posts more and more

I have the exact same question and feel the same way. We have Dr.Zero and then we have President Zero…

but i cant tell you the absolute glee that i get when i see that even the most hard core liberals agree that this was a joke. there is no way they can defend this one, do they ? although i did see some clown commenters at the Daily Beast making a fool of themselves defending this farce.

If Obama is the Joker then the Nobel Peace Committee must be his accomplices.

It didnt occur to this vain man that he could have rejected the award.. Instead he accepted it for “all those people who dared to hope” !

I dont think any thing reveals Obama’s emptiness more than this “prize” and how he reacted upon.. ahem.. “winning” it.

nagee76 on October 10, 2009 at 1:34 PM

AnninCA, if you think you’re building up some credibility here you’re not. Just seeing your name is irritating to most of us.

If your intent is not to be irritating, please take AsianGirl’s advice and just go away.

DarkCurrent on October 10, 2009 at 1:36 PM

Obambi is the socialist/fascist that everybody who was paying attention knew he was. Only those who weren’t paying attention are surprised and they treated us like crap when we tried to warn them.

2010 will be a good year for America. 2012 will be even better.

Mojave Mark on October 10, 2009 at 1:38 PM

You know, most of the commentary I read yesterday about the farce of Nobel was hilarious. Great jokes! But reading this makes me weep. We are in such danger.

Catherine Wilkinson on October 10, 2009 at 1:38 PM

Morsels, as usual, from the great Mark Steyn:

There’s something almost quaintly vieux chapeau about the Nobel decision, as if the hopeychangey bumper stickers were shipped surface mail to Oslo and only arrived last week. Everywhere else, they’re peeling off: The venerable lefties at Britain’s New Statesman currently have a cover story on “Barack W. Bush”.

Why, only the other day, very conversationally, the administration floated the trial balloon that it could live with the Taliban returning to government in Afghanistan. A lot of Afghans won’t be living with it, but that’s their lookout.

This is – how to put this delicately? – something of a recalibration of Obama’s previous position. From about a year after the fall of Baghdad, Democrats adopted the line that Bush’s war in Iraq was an unnecessary distraction from the real war, the good war, the one in Afghanistan that everyone – Dems, Europeans, all the nice people – were right behind, 100 percent. No one butched up for the Khyber Pass more enthusiastically than Barack Obama: “As President, I will make the fight against al-Qaida and the Taliban the top priority.” (July 15, 2008)

But that was then, and this is now. As the historian Robert Dallek told Obama recently, “War kills off great reform movements.” As the Washington Post’s E.J. Dionne reminded the president, his supporters voted for him not to win a war but to win a victory on health care and other domestic issues. Obama’s priorities lie not in the Hindu Kush but in America: Why squander your presidency on trying to turn an economically moribund feudal backwater into a functioning nation state when you can turn a functioning nation state into an economically moribund feudal backwater?

Gosh, given their many assertions that Afghanistan is “a war we have to win” (Obama to the VFW, August 2008), you might almost think, pace Judi Romaine, that it’s the president and water-bearers like Gunga Dionne who are the “cynics.” In a recent speech to the Manhattan Institute, Charles Krauthammer pointed out that, in diminishing American power abroad to advance statism at home, Obama and the American people will be choosing decline. There are legitimate questions about our war aims in Afghanistan, and about the strategy necessary to achieve them. But, eight years after being toppled, the Taliban will see their return to power as a great victory over the Great Satan, and so will the angry young men from Toronto to Yorkshire to Chechnya to Indonesia who graduated from Afghanistan’s Camp Jihad during the 1990s. And so will the rest of the world: They will understand that the modern era’s ordnungsmacht(the “order maker”) has chosen decline.

Barack Obama will have history’s most crowded trophy room, but his presidency is shaping up as a tragedy – for America and the world.

Except that, hopefully, the American people will wake up in time and not choose decline.

Schadenfreude on October 10, 2009 at 1:38 PM

He deceived this Nation to win an election. I don’t like being deceived, nor do my neighbors. He and his wife are elitist leftist socialists who campaigned on lies and promises that he cannot and will not deliver.

Well, I happened to actually pay attention. He didn’t realy deceive.

He actually was pretty much whom he presented.

But heck, who pays attention to a speech in Georgia or whatever?

I was. I certainly had him figured out.

AnninCA on October 10, 2009 at 1:39 PM

Well, I think he was just using a sort of shorthand.

SteveMG on October 10, 2009 at 1:28 PM

As someone who still takes great pride in being an American, I found his shorthand insulting. That traitor we have for a president lumps us all together too, when he runs around the globe trashing America.

Quite frankly, I’m just sick of the label. As a patriot and a veteran I can only take so much.

fogw on October 10, 2009 at 1:41 PM

Well, I happened to actually pay attention. He didn’t realy deceive.

He actually was pretty much whom he presented.

But heck, who pays attention to a speech in Georgia or whatever?

I was. I certainly had him figured out.

AnninCA on October 10, 2009 at 1:39 PM

Indeed. He was, is, and will be an empty narcissistic cipher, a fool, who’s strings are pulled and paid for by the Soroses.

The fools are those who believed otherwise, from the left, to the right.

Go buy lottery tickets – AnninCA and Schaden agree in full.

Schadenfreude on October 10, 2009 at 1:42 PM

AnninCA, if you think you’re building up some credibility here you’re not. Just seeing your name is irritating to most of us.

If your intent is not to be irritating, please take AsianGirl’s advice and just go away.

DarkCurrent on October 10, 2009 at 1:36 PM

I’m truly sorry you feel that way.

My answer to your request is “no.”

I suggest you learn to by-pass my posts. That’s what I do on blogs when someone personally annoys me.

I just don’t read them.

It saves me wear and tear.

I figured out, for example, a few posters here were terribly personal and hostile.

I just skip over their posts. That way, they have no real impact.

They post away about me personally, but I don’t really suck it up.

I offer this in goodwill. Just skip over my posts. I promise, I do think that’s a good strategy for handling differences.

You and I may actually converse in the future, when the topic doesn’t trigger you emotionally.

Right now, apparently, I flip you out.

That’s OK.

AnninCA on October 10, 2009 at 1:43 PM

Quite frankly, I’m just sick of the label. As a patriot and a veteran I can only take so much.

fogw on October 10, 2009 at 1:41 PM

My dear fogw, you are simply the best.

Schadenfreude on October 10, 2009 at 1:44 PM

The obvious truth is Barack Obama has a lot more in common with the people in Oslo Norway, than he does with the people in Oklahoma City or Omaha.

Terrye on October 10, 2009 at 1:47 PM

My dear fogw, you are simply the best.

Schadenfreude on October 10, 2009 at 1:44 PM

Thanks E.

fogw on October 10, 2009 at 1:48 PM

Indeed. He was, is, and will be an empty narcissistic cipher, a fool, who’s strings are pulled and paid for by the Soroses.

I don’t think anyone is pulling his strings.

He simply is the first Black American President.

His legacy is absolutely set.

By the way, that’s the good part of this past election, in my opinion.

It really will change us for the better.

I do give him credit where credit is due. He’s good at speeches, so he’s really plowing this.

Lordy, how he’s giving speeches! LOL*

He’s no Lyndon Johnston, for sure.

*sigh*

AnninCA on October 10, 2009 at 1:48 PM

Another brilliant post, Doctor Zero. Artistically written and beautifully framed. Always a joy to read.

SKYFOX on October 10, 2009 at 1:50 PM

Well done Doc. I just want to cry.

alwaysright43 on October 10, 2009 at 1:51 PM

Obama had been in office for less than two weeks before the Nobel nominations were finalized, so his nomination was not based on anything he had done as President.

Reminds me of the Soros game to offer big cash grants to each member of the parliment of a new eastern bloc nation if they would vote his way

Giving an award, with or without the million bucks to someone to do something in the future is just a bribe, a payoff and a payout

Prestige or money it matters not. If Obama had class, or if he had been clever, he would have composed a speech to regretfully refuse such an award while he is in office, since he owes it to the electorate to avoid appearances of undue influence

By accepting the award, even though he donated the money, he has accepted the image of being under influence by outsiders. A foolish move. Had he been a humble man, humility would have saved him this trap

entagor on October 10, 2009 at 1:52 PM

I personally think that Obama really is important nationally, in our own history.

We held onto slavery way beyond the rest of the world. We really did establish our own problem.

This is our truth. Obama is our first Black president. It is so significant.

It won’t wash away everything, but it’s very important.

Whether we’re conservative or liberal, let’s really admit that this is important.

AnninCA on October 10, 2009 at 1:54 PM

AnninCA on October 10, 2009 at 1:43 PM

The problem Ann, is that in many (most?) cases you end up derailing threads, turning most of what you touch to waste.

I’m sure several magnitudes more total brainpower is actually expended in skipping over your posts than you contribute in the first place. In the interests of efficient use of humanity’s vast but limited intellectual resources, please reconsider disappearing.

DarkCurrent on October 10, 2009 at 1:54 PM

aengus on October 10, 2009 at 12:54 PM

With the utmost respect and love for fogw, and his dear ones, I agree fully with aengus, here.

Shame be on the conservatives for the execrable way in which they handled the primaries, ending up with McCain.

Shame be on all free-thinking so-called libertarians and independents for falling for this Fool.

Shame be on the Paulites and etc. for not knowing math and statistics.

Most shame be on the Republicans and conservatives who stayed home or voted for this Tennager who’s never developed mentally.

fogw, please don’t despair. We will not allow the hot water to boil us, before we jump out of the pan. I’m desolate, apathetic, depressed, and yet, not completely sans hope.

These are still the United States of America. All who forget this, or ignore it, do so out of stupidity and faux hope and idealistic Utopia for a one-world nonsense.

If it turns out otherwise, we fully deserve it.

Schadenfreude on October 10, 2009 at 1:57 PM

Oh, there is no liberalism in sight, as far as I am personally concerned.

AnninCA on October 10, 2009 at 1:30 PM

That’s what worries me. What happened to the decent (mainly classic) libs who used to be the mainstream of the Democrat Party? Have they been so decimated by the Soros wing that they’re unable to regain control of their party?

petefrt on October 10, 2009 at 1:57 PM

Quite frankly, I’m just sick of the label. As a patriot and a veteran I can only take so much.

fogw on October 10, 2009 at 1:41 PM

Thank you for your service to our Nation.

Key West Reader on October 10, 2009 at 1:57 PM

This is our truth. Obama is our first Black president. It is so significant.

Whether we’re conservative or liberal, let’s really admit that this is important.

AnninCA on October 10, 2009 at 1:54 PM

So the content of one’s character was all hogwash then, heh?

fogw on October 10, 2009 at 1:57 PM

Thank you, Doctor Zero.

Loxodonta on October 10, 2009 at 1:58 PM

You are saying that the Norwegian government (the cultural and political elite of Europe?) are making an anti-American gesture and that they are doing so by conferring an award on the President of the United States…

First: It was conferred on Obama, NOT the President of The United States.
Second: In all fairness to Dr. Zero, Obama IS anti-American in EVERY sense of the word, hence the award.

The fact is that the Nobel Savage was elected to office by the American people…

Consensus is overrated since most people are stupid. The founders knew this very well, which is why we are a Representative Democracy. Everyone questions the need for the Electoral College, when it’s original intent was to prevent just this kind of person from being elected.

Pole-Cat on October 10, 2009 at 1:58 PM

The problem Ann, is that in many (most?) cases you end up derailing threads, turning most of what you touch to waste.

I stick to talking about issues.

I just avoid the usual snarky stuff.

Let’s just get back to talking about issues.

That surely isn’t derailing in your book, or is it?

AnninCA on October 10, 2009 at 1:59 PM

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