Webb: We’ve stopped 4 or 5 terror plots in last few weeks
posted at 1:36 pm on October 9, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Senator Jim Webb (D-VA) tried to make this point as a rebuttal to the military’s recommendation to increase troops and operations in Afghanistan, but The Hill points out that Webb forgot a critical data point in this argument. We know about three of these plots, but Webb appears to imply that we have found a couple of more that haven’t hit the news. The plot that got the most attention is also the one that invalidates Webb’s argument:
Sen. Jim Webb (D-Va.) said Thursday that a handful of terrorist plots in the United States have been thwarted in the last few weeks.
During an interview on C-SPAN’s “Washington Journal” show, the Armed Services Committee member said, “We just had four or five different viable threats here reported over the past few weeks of activities, terrorist activities, that we were able to stop.”
He added, “They weren’t coming from Afghanistan,” making his case that many people are falsely claiming that al Qaeda has a large foothold in Afghanistan. He claims there are only about 100 al Qaeda operatives in Afghanistan.
One of them did, though. Najibullah Zazi is a citizen of Afghanistan who received his training in Pakistan before coming to the US to conduct terror attacks, presumably in the subways of New York City. The entire idea of our mission in the Af-Pak theater is to keep al-Qaeda and the Taliban from having enough time and resources to launch more of these attacks.
Besides, even without the Zazi conspiracy, we have the example of 9/11, plotted and directed by Osama bin Laden while sheltered by the Taliban. The reason we don’t have more of these plots coming from Afghanistan is because we kicked the Taliban and al-Qaeda from their seat of power in Afghanistan. A retreat from that theater would allow both to return to power in Afghanistan, and we would once again be forced to play defense against AQ and hope that we could catch every plot launched against us before it came to fruition.
The Hill only counts three plots made public in the last few weeks — Zazi, a Jordanian indicted in Dallas for plotting to bomb a skyscraper, and two Americans and a Kosovar who wanted to attack the Marines in Quantico. Did Webb overstate the number of plots, or are there more that haven’t yet been reported?
Update: Here’s the fourth, so Webb’s in the right ballpark:
An Illinois man has been arrested in a plot to bomb a courthouse in Spring field according top an FBI press release. Acting U.S. Attorney Jeffrey B. Lang of the Central District of Illinois and Karen E. Spangenberg, Special Agent in Charge of the FBI, Springfield Division, today announced that Michael C. Finton, aka., “Talib Islam,” has been arrested on charges of attempted murder of federal employees and attempted use of a weapon of mass destruction (explosives) in connection with a plot to detonate a vehicle bomb at the federal building in Springfield, Ill.
Thanks to HA reader Gary for the reference.










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I thwarted three of them myself since Tuesday, but I don’t like to brag.
Vashta.Nerada on October 9, 2009 at 1:39 PM
George W. Bush deserves a Peace Prize for setting up the means to thwart these attacks.
jp on October 9, 2009 at 1:40 PM
but, how many jobs have you created or saved?
Hiya Ciska on October 9, 2009 at 1:41 PM
One word: Strawman.
Dusty on October 9, 2009 at 1:42 PM
Hey Webby, your perv books would piss off muzzies so I wouldn’t bring attention to myself there buddy.
Branch Rickey on October 9, 2009 at 1:42 PM
I stopped 3 today, just before I saved or created 300,000 jobs.
Daggett on October 9, 2009 at 1:43 PM
All of this talk about terror attacks…
Who exactly would want to attack us? The Taliban are our friends I thought?
catmman on October 9, 2009 at 1:43 PM
Did Webb overstate the number of plots, or are there more that haven’t yet been reported?
No, He lied, seems to be a common practice for demonrats.
SHARPTOOTH on October 9, 2009 at 1:43 PM
Not listening to anything from this SOB who has led the suckup parade to the murderous regime in Burma.
rockmom on October 9, 2009 at 1:44 PM
These weren’t from Afghanistan.
Therefore future attacks won’t be from Afghanistan.
Fallacious argument right there. Take Logic 101, Webb.
Wethal on October 9, 2009 at 1:44 PM
I thwarted three of them myself since Tuesday, but I don’t like to brag.
Vashta.Nerada on October 9, 2009 at 1:39 PM
I stopped 3 today, just before I saved or created 300,000 jobs.
Daggett on October 9, 2009 at 1:43 PM
You both realize that with your sarcastic messages, you’ve actually accomplished more than President Obama.
You Nobels are in the mail.
catmman on October 9, 2009 at 1:45 PM
Senator Webb is a former Secretary of the Navy and is torn between his convictions to his party and the military. He and his fellow Dems (ie, Tom Perriello VA-5) are in trouble in Virginia. Neither he, nor Mark Warner, wouldn’t hold any townhalls until their constituents beat the snot out of them with a “Have you seen this Senator?” billboard campaign. Warner is a water carrier for the president and cannot think for himself. Webb can think for himself, but simply chooses not to.
ted c on October 9, 2009 at 1:45 PM
look, what an idiot. when he says there are only 100AQ people in a country as large as Afghanistan, who could possibly believe that? i bet there are more Muslim Redskins fans in Afghanistan than a mere 100.
I apologize. he is one of my useless senators.
kelley in virginia on October 9, 2009 at 1:46 PM
MrScribbler on October 9, 2009 at 1:46 PM
Sen. Webb.
How many CIA operatives were in Afghanistan when we routed the Taliban 8 years ago?
BottomLine5 on October 9, 2009 at 1:46 PM
I’ll have to turn it down. There are certain clubs that even I wouldn’t join.
Vashta.Nerada on October 9, 2009 at 1:47 PM
ted c: we will get rid of Perriello in 2010 with robert hurt. who have we got that can take out Warner? He hugged Chuck Schumer.
kelley in virginia on October 9, 2009 at 1:47 PM
MSNBC never mentioned any of them.
JammieWearingFool on October 9, 2009 at 1:48 PM
Wait a second….
By this logic we now have to invade Jordan and Kosovo? And America?
The Calibur on October 9, 2009 at 1:48 PM
I’m not sure if it was recently but a couple of days ago I remember hearing on St. Louis radio about someone who was plotting to bomb the Federal Court House in Springfield, MO.
You may want to look that up, like I said, I don’t know how recent it was.
MobileVideoEngineer on October 9, 2009 at 1:49 PM
I apologize. he is one of my useless senators.
kelley in virginia on October 9, 2009 at 1:46 PM
No need to apologize, my state is stuck with sphincter……..er…specter.
same difference.
SHARPTOOTH on October 9, 2009 at 1:49 PM
Even if that’s true about the Taliban, there’s no way anybody’s going to want to attack us now. Haven’t you heard?
Obama’s won the Nobel Peace Prize.
TXUS on October 9, 2009 at 1:50 PM
I’m very happy these plots were stopped. What concerns me is that the Obama Administration doesn’t seem to understand that these plots don’t thwart themselves, and their initiatives run the very real risk of diminishing (or even eliminating) our ability to stop these things in the future.
JohnTant on October 9, 2009 at 1:50 PM
One sliped through, the bastards got the moon.
Oh wait, that was us????
sonofdy on October 9, 2009 at 1:50 PM
sharptooth:at least Specter beat cancer.
kelley in virginia on October 9, 2009 at 1:50 PM
Hey Webb, go over there for about a week with our guys and check that out for us.See if there are any of those bombs that the iranians are helping the taliban with.You know the taliban,who are no threat to us?I f you don’t get your butt blown off,you can come back and fill us in.
ohiobabe on October 9, 2009 at 1:50 PM
It would be insulting to W to give him a Noble Prize.
lavell12 on October 9, 2009 at 1:51 PM
errr—
We are already in Kosovo and America. Jordan? not so much.
sonofdy on October 9, 2009 at 1:51 PM
I just saw this hurt guy’s website. Don’t know enough about him but I can say that Perriello is awfully doomed. Is either Mark Bench Warmer or Webb up for reelection.??
ted c on October 9, 2009 at 1:51 PM
Let me think here, us troops in Afghanistan = very few terrorists there . Ok now lets pull the us troops..
the_nile on October 9, 2009 at 1:52 PM
Well, will you send me the $1.4 million?
TXUS on October 9, 2009 at 1:52 PM
ohiobabe: here’s the thing about Webb: he had a son in Iraq. Webb went to the Naval Academy. Webb served in Reagan’s White HOuse. Webb likes to carry weapons with him.
you wonder what happened?
kelley in virginia on October 9, 2009 at 1:52 PM
I’ve saved or created 1 million terrorists.
- Barack Hussein Obama
Monica on October 9, 2009 at 1:53 PM
THAT explains the peace prize…..
sonofdy on October 9, 2009 at 1:53 PM
So the demorats turned down a few tea-party permits in D.C.?
Bishop on October 9, 2009 at 1:54 PM
Webb should get the Pulitzer prize
SouthernGent on October 9, 2009 at 1:54 PM
ted c: i don’t think Warner or Webb are up for re-election in 2010. is there another Virginian here that might know?
and ted c: i’ve already sent robt. hurt the fed. contribution limit. he is probably only one that can beat that complete little snippy idjit Perriello.
kelley in virginia on October 9, 2009 at 1:55 PM
What is this “We” bovine feces you refer to Senator?
Are you a Senator by day and crime fighter at night or are you just taking credit for the work of others?
LincolntheHun on October 9, 2009 at 1:55 PM
Whether we stopped, 3, 4, or 5 attacks is not the point.
The point is that the Democrats want to dismantle the system that stopped all of these attacks, however many there actually were.
MarkTheGreat on October 9, 2009 at 1:55 PM
Webb is a total A__H___. He has a spine of marshmallows and skips to work instead of walks. Why Virginians elected this jerk is a tribute to the Maccaca Washington Post BS blitz that sunk George Allen (who was a real conservative hero in my book). Webb is such a Pansie that he gets his panties in a twist when he even hears the report of guns (using blanks ) at military processions. Let’s make sure this Obama A__ Kisser does not get re-elected.
Cinday Blackburn on October 9, 2009 at 1:56 PM
I don’t think you can turn down the medal, yet keep the money. I’ll have to check into that.
Vashta.Nerada on October 9, 2009 at 1:57 PM
Suuuuuuuure you did.
angryed on October 9, 2009 at 1:58 PM
Warner is a worse senator because he is really really liberal, really really in love with Schumer & Reid, & really really has no compunction about lying.
kelley in virginia on October 9, 2009 at 1:59 PM
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If the Dems are now bragging about stopping 1 a week os so… How many did the Bush admin stop that we will never hear about? Or… is there suddenly a surge going on against us? Because of Opeaceprize? Ummm…
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RalphyBoy on October 9, 2009 at 1:59 PM
What are these terrorist activities he speaks of? Is he talking about a “Man-Made Disaster”?
Bicyea on October 9, 2009 at 2:00 PM
I thought terrorists were a figment of Bush’s imagination. You mean they’re real and they’re plotting to kill Americans?
I’m shocked I tell you, shocked to hear this.
angryed on October 9, 2009 at 2:02 PM
I read of one the exact same time as the dallas. He was going to blow up a police station /court house? Ah found it it was chicago.
Greed on October 9, 2009 at 2:03 PM
He doesn’t know whether it is 4 or 5? He doesn’t sound very credible.
MB4 on October 9, 2009 at 2:04 PM
You lie!!!!!
grapeknutz on October 9, 2009 at 2:04 PM
Remember how enthusiastic Democrats were about stopping terror plots last year? Wait a minute, I don’t. I wonder whats different……
Speedwagon82 on October 9, 2009 at 2:05 PM
Strangely enough, North Vietnam’s Le Duc Tho also declined his Nobel Peace Prize. But his fellow recipient, Kiss Mister Assinger, accepted his.
Del Dolemonte on October 9, 2009 at 2:05 PM
“There is no terrorist threat. THERE … IS … NO … TERRORIST … THREAT!” — Michael Moore, 2004
saint kansas on October 9, 2009 at 2:05 PM
So if the terrorist attacks did not come from Afghanistan, then where did they come from and should we bomb them or send in troops?
albill on October 9, 2009 at 2:07 PM
Only 100 AQ in Afghanistan? Wow there are more AQ in Detroitistan and Dearbornistan. Who knew? (haha)
Branch Rickey on October 9, 2009 at 2:07 PM
someone has already said this somewhere i’m sure: but if Bambi has, as CinC, allowed one US soldier to die on the field of combat or has ordered the death of anyone while as CinC or President, then he cannot be a peaceful man.
how ’bout those Somali pirates that got the sniper shots in the head? ooh rah? The White House claimed they ordered that.
kelley in virginia on October 9, 2009 at 2:08 PM
Yes there are real ones.
These should not be confused with the fake ones we have captured and “interrogate” at Gitmo.
They are different. I think they are the nice terrorists or something. Ask Nancy or Eric for details.
fogw on October 9, 2009 at 2:08 PM
Webb likes to carry weapons with him.
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Do his fellow dems. who want to change the gun laws know this?This may not be info he wants out:)
ohiobabe on October 9, 2009 at 2:09 PM
This week’s column zooms in on a small but symbolic sector of the Western front where the war on sharia has been lost without any comprehension of the battle having taken place.
MB4 on October 9, 2009 at 2:09 PM
Thank you, you made my day!
lovingmyUSA on October 9, 2009 at 2:10 PM
But I thought the “War on Terror” was over??!!??
120pages on October 9, 2009 at 2:10 PM
mamama..we’re all peace prize winners!
becki51758 on October 9, 2009 at 2:11 PM
Did someone finally put a net over Alan Grayson and send him back to the psychiatic ward?
That’s #4.
HornetSting on October 9, 2009 at 2:12 PM
What happens to the Dems when we get attacked again? Do they really want to play Russian Roulette With American Lives?
I expect better from Webb.
Dr Evil on October 9, 2009 at 2:13 PM
This guy would fly under the radar. Not looking much like a terrorist. Same as the dallas plot, let the guy think hes going to blow it up right to last second. So that makes four.
Greed on October 9, 2009 at 2:13 PM
According the DNC, the ONLY terrorists are Republicans who ‘criticize’ Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize.
Who did the Democrats ‘thwart’ on the conservative side of the political aisle? And send for re-education/shot-while-trying-to-escape?
Liam on October 9, 2009 at 2:15 PM
The point is that the Dems are stopping terrorist attacks very well, thank you.
Bleeds Blue on October 9, 2009 at 2:15 PM
Which is why he’s an odd choice to be speaking for Creigh Deeds. He’s just not that popular.
Deeds himself doesn’t say much and hasn’t put forth any ideas. If he wins, he can tell us all about McDonnell’s thesis but won’t have a clue about running the state.
highhopes on October 9, 2009 at 2:17 PM
Oh come on, haven’t the terrorists downgraded us from “The Great Satan” yet? Shouldn’t they pat us on the head and tell us what good little dhimmi’s we are for having elected a semi-muslim, semi-black, fully empty suit, as our leader? Can’t we stop being the great creator of brave and glorious martyrs? Sheesh!
I mean, what do we have to do? We’ve apologized to every half-penny country in the world, kissed the behinds of every half-bit dictator, bowed to muslim “royalty”, given muslims all kinds of special rights in our own country, thrown the Israeli’s under the bus in favor of the fictional “palestinians” and tearfully exclaimed before the United Nations how bad we’ve been and that we’ve finally learned our lesson. Haven’t we expressed just how sincere we are in fully intending to submit to the wisdom and authority of the greater world community?
What else do we have to do before these guys stop wanting to attack us?
Weren’t Obama, Nancy, Bawney and the rest of the libs right about the fact that we are only suffering attacks because of our unbearable national arrogance and our self-centered foreign policy?
I mean, WTF?! Give us a break and PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE leave us alone, we can’t take anymore of the stress and tension caused by all these horrific attacks (even if they’ve failed). For the love of Allah, forgive us already!!
::whimpers::
/S
Fatal on October 9, 2009 at 2:17 PM
Thanks for the chuckle!
truetexan on October 9, 2009 at 2:17 PM
Helps when you all belong to the same hate-America clubs. There is nothing to prove that Democrats want to stop terrorism. In fact the opposite appears to be true.
highhopes on October 9, 2009 at 2:18 PM
What’s shocking to me is that there were apparently never any legitimate attacks to be stopped during the GWB tenure. Sure, Bush made some stuff up and entrapped some goofs- but that doesn’t count. Now that Obama is in office, though, there are suddenly all these attacks being both planned and stopped. Awesome.
MayBee on October 9, 2009 at 2:19 PM
I bet their glad they kept those Republican anti-terror policies.
Greed on October 9, 2009 at 2:19 PM
Except that we keep catching them and — overseas — killing them.
Bleeds Blue on October 9, 2009 at 2:20 PM
Name names. Reid, Pelosi, Webb? Who? Which Dems are stopping terrorist attacks. LOL.
You must be talking about the system of stopgaps put in place by Chimpy McBush and Darth Cheney.
fogw on October 9, 2009 at 2:20 PM
Webb is not up for reelection until 2012 (Warner not until 2014). We’re stuck with these useless pieces of crap for a while.
Webb is only marginally good on gun rights. Everything else he seems to follow the party line.
Firefly_76 on October 9, 2009 at 2:20 PM
Doesn’t matter. Obama will bring peace, peace.
mmm mmm mmm
Obama will bring peace.
spmat on October 9, 2009 at 2:20 PM
+1
awake on October 9, 2009 at 2:21 PM
“we” is neither you nor the Dems. Stop taking credit for something you took no part in.
fogw on October 9, 2009 at 2:22 PM
Unfortunately, no.
riverrat10k on October 9, 2009 at 2:23 PM
yes..isnt the Patriot Act wonderful!
becki51758 on October 9, 2009 at 2:23 PM
Yeah it helps that the Gorelick wall is down for now….
Branch Rickey on October 9, 2009 at 2:23 PM
Only to preserve their current political power, for now, and nothing more.
Not for good of the country.
Wait, and defend later, when someone hits again. You libs will equated an AQ hit with Republican opposition to your guy in the White House.
It’s inevitable. What you say now, to defend yourself, will go by the wayside later. Then you”l ‘defend’ yourself in a different way.
The only one you’re pranking is yourself and those who believe like you.
Liam on October 9, 2009 at 2:24 PM
How many were stopped with his ginormous forehead?
thirteen28 on October 9, 2009 at 2:25 PM
Remember those halcyon days when the libs claimed that all news and claims about “stopping terror attacks” was merely immoral political gamesmanship?
LibTired on October 9, 2009 at 2:27 PM
Melon Head Webb is a do-nothing disgrace of a Senator who doesn’t know his ass from third base. He ought to be praising George W. Bush who set up the system for fighting terrorism instead of patting himself on the back. And to think it’s my own state that elected this lugnut to the Senate. Well, at least he isn’t Al Franken.
Percy_Peabody on October 9, 2009 at 2:29 PM
Don’t know what to think. Just today harry Reid said that Barry brought us hope instead of fear and here we are worrying about terrorism and stuff.
obladioblada on October 9, 2009 at 2:29 PM
Really? If one got through, whose fault would you say it was? I realize that the Bush Administration was all about dodging responsibility…
Bleeds Blue on October 9, 2009 at 2:30 PM
FBI actually stopped the terrorist attacks.
obama’s next order of business will be crippling the FBI for racial profiling.
HornetSting on October 9, 2009 at 2:32 PM
As of today, Obama’s. He’s in the White House.
Where would you lay fault–Nixon?
Liam on October 9, 2009 at 2:32 PM
Oh come on…Obama is the one not taking responsibility for anything. He continues to blame Bush. Obama isnt the only president who was handed a mess.
becki51758 on October 9, 2009 at 2:32 PM
oops…hit send before i was done. ..and they didnt whine and cry about it.
becki51758 on October 9, 2009 at 2:34 PM
From the Dems? Overstatement….as usual.
GarandFan on October 9, 2009 at 2:35 PM
After dozens of e-mails and snail mails, I have yet to receive anything but a form letter in response.
‘Nuff said.
riverrat10k on October 9, 2009 at 2:36 PM
In which branch of the military are you?
Johan Klaus on October 9, 2009 at 2:45 PM
Bleeds, are you ever going to stop projecting?
rukiddingme on October 9, 2009 at 2:46 PM
This is the guy who writes the gay novels, right?
LtE126 on October 9, 2009 at 2:47 PM
Using Bush’s playbook. That has your getalifes in a bunch, doesn’t it?
Del Dolemonte on October 9, 2009 at 2:47 PM
This “alleged” terrorist changes his name to “Talib” and he has nothing to do with the Taliban? His target was in Springfield, IL, the former workplace of a former State Senator named Barack Hussein Obama?
It’s 3:00 AM and the phone is ringing…
Steve Z on October 9, 2009 at 2:47 PM
Their change of heart.
Johan Klaus on October 9, 2009 at 2:48 PM
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