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Webb: We’ve stopped 4 or 5 terror plots in last few weeks

posted at 1:36 pm on October 9, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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Senator Jim Webb (D-VA) tried to make this point as a rebuttal to the military’s recommendation to increase troops and operations in Afghanistan, but The Hill points out that Webb forgot a critical data point in this argument.  We know about three of these plots, but Webb appears to imply that we have found a couple of more that haven’t hit the news.  The plot that got the most attention is also the one that invalidates Webb’s argument:

Sen. Jim Webb (D-Va.) said Thursday that a handful of terrorist plots in the United States have been thwarted in the last few weeks.

During an interview on C-SPAN’s “Washington Journal” show, the Armed Services Committee member said, “We just had four or five different viable threats here reported over the past few weeks of activities, terrorist activities, that we were able to stop.”

He added, “They weren’t coming from Afghanistan,” making his case that many people are falsely claiming that al Qaeda has a large foothold in Afghanistan. He claims there are only about 100 al Qaeda operatives in Afghanistan.

One of them did, though.  Najibullah Zazi is a citizen of Afghanistan who received his training in Pakistan before coming to the US to conduct terror attacks, presumably in the subways of New York City.  The entire idea of our mission in the Af-Pak theater is to keep al-Qaeda and the Taliban from having enough time and resources to launch more of these attacks.

Besides, even without the Zazi conspiracy, we have the example of 9/11, plotted and directed by Osama bin Laden while sheltered by the Taliban.  The reason we don’t have more of these plots coming from Afghanistan is because we kicked the Taliban and al-Qaeda from their seat of power in Afghanistan.  A retreat from that theater would allow both to return to power in Afghanistan, and we would once again be forced to play defense against AQ and hope that we could catch every plot launched against us before it came to fruition.

The Hill only counts three plots made public in the last few weeks — Zazi, a Jordanian indicted in Dallas for plotting to bomb a skyscraper, and two Americans and a Kosovar who wanted to attack the Marines in Quantico.  Did Webb overstate the number of plots, or are there more that haven’t yet been reported?

Update: Here’s the fourth, so Webb’s in the right ballpark:

An Illinois man has been arrested in a plot to bomb a courthouse in Spring field according top an FBI press release. Acting U.S. Attorney Jeffrey B. Lang of the Central District of Illinois and Karen E. Spangenberg, Special Agent in Charge of the FBI, Springfield Division, today announced that Michael C. Finton, aka., “Talib Islam,” has been arrested on charges of attempted murder of federal employees and attempted use of a weapon of mass destruction (explosives) in connection with a plot to detonate a vehicle bomb at the federal building in Springfield, Ill.

Thanks to HA reader Gary for the reference.


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Really? If one got through, whose fault would you say it was?

Bleeds Blue343 on October 9, 2009 at 2:30 PM

Your guy left Bush 9/11. Give it up.

Del Dolemonte on October 9, 2009 at 2:49 PM

oh crap, Webb’s head just eclisped the sun, now we are going to have 10 minutes of darkness….

jbh45 on October 9, 2009 at 2:49 PM

He added, “They weren’t coming from Afghanistan,” making his case that many people are falsely claiming that al Qaeda has a large foothold in Afghanistan. He claims there are only about 100 al Qaeda operatives in Afghanistan.

Uhmmmmmmmmmmmmmm? Weren’t the Dems telling us for the last 6 or so years that AQ is in Afghanistan, not Iraq?

DSchoen on October 9, 2009 at 2:50 PM

I thwarted three of them myself since Tuesday, but I don’t like to brag.
Vashta.Nerada on October 9, 2009 at 1:39 PM

Was that before or after you saved 20k jobs?

DSchoen on October 9, 2009 at 2:54 PM

Virginia, please wake up out of your stupor and get rid of this idiot! Look what the democrats have done to your neighbor, Maryland – a democrat cesspool.

mozalf on October 9, 2009 at 2:55 PM

He’s full of macaca.

TexasJew on October 9, 2009 at 3:00 PM

mozalf: my humble apologies. i worked liked a dog for Allen (Webb’s opponent).

kelley in virginia on October 9, 2009 at 3:01 PM

The point is that the Dems are stopping terrorist attacks very well, thank you.
Bleeds Blue on October 9, 2009 at 2:15 PM

Where, when and how?

Illegal wiretaps? The Patriot Act?

“are stopping” Could you be more specific? Nope? Didn’t think so.

DSchoen on October 9, 2009 at 3:02 PM

Damn it. Webb is one of mine.
*Facepalm*

donkichi on October 9, 2009 at 3:04 PM

Really? If one got through, whose fault would you say it was?

Bleeds Blue343 on October 9, 2009 at 2:30 PM

I would say that it is the fault of the guy who dismantled the groups that stopped the previous attacks.

MarkTheGreat on October 9, 2009 at 3:05 PM

The point is that the Dems are stopping terrorist attacks very well, thank you.

Bleeds Blue on October 9, 2009 at 2:15 PM

That’s because your messiah hasn’t succeeded in dismantling everything Bush put in place yet.

MarkTheGreat on October 9, 2009 at 3:06 PM

Really? If one got through, whose fault would you say it was? I realize that the Bush Administration was all about dodging responsibility…

Bleeds Blue on October 9, 2009 at 2:30 PM

Get serious, you don’t know who will get the blame if one gets through?

You’re dumber than I thought.

fogw on October 9, 2009 at 3:06 PM

Uhmmmmmmmmmmmmmm? Weren’t the Dems telling us for the last 6 or so years that AQ is in Afghanistan, not Iraq?

DSchoen on October 9, 2009 at 2:50 PM

Not Afghanistan-Afghanistan, just that general area.

donkichi on October 9, 2009 at 3:07 PM

Except that we keep catching them and — overseas — killing them.
Bleeds Blue on October 9, 2009 at 2:20 PM

We are capturing them then executing them?

Bleeds Blue, you are accusing Obama of WAR CRIMES!

DSchoen on October 9, 2009 at 3:09 PM

Sen. Jim Webb (D-Va.) said Thursday that a handful of terrorist plots in the United States have been thwarted in the last few weeks.

Change the first three words to “Pres. George Bush”
and then how does it read?

Yeah, I think Webb is probably up front and right on, but damn it is tempting to just be oppositional and throw this back in the Donks faces. After all, we had 7 years of watching this tired tactic coming from them.

Bruno Strozek on October 9, 2009 at 3:10 PM

Except that we keep catching them and — overseas — killing them.

Bleeds Blue on October 9, 2009 at 2:20 PM

Don’t read much, do you. The recent plots were all stopped here, the plots were being executed by people already here.

MarkTheGreat on October 9, 2009 at 3:10 PM

Come on folks…

Its simple…

There were THREE plots in the 50 States….

and TWO MORE in the other 7!

Romeo13 on October 9, 2009 at 3:16 PM

I captured a terrorist cell myself. I think they were planning on attacking the Bartlet’s Water Show in the Wisconsin Dells. I found them with Water Show literature, a pair of skis, and a belt containing C-4. The problem was they had planned to attack in December, The show is shut down, and Lake Delton is frozen over. I have them tied up in my basement and I’m torturing them by tying my sneakers around their heads so they have to smell them for hours.

Jeff from WI on October 9, 2009 at 3:23 PM

Come on folks…

Its simple…

There were THREE plots in the 50 States….

and TWO MORE in the other 7!

Romeo13 on October 9, 2009 at 3:16 PM

LOLOL

Jeff from WI on October 9, 2009 at 3:24 PM

DSchoen on October 9, 2009 at 3:09 PM

He doesn’t read much and apprently couldn’t think much.

At the rate of our ‘catching and killing’ them, pretty soon we will have gone through the whole 100 or so AQ guys, uh?

Sir Napsalot on October 9, 2009 at 3:25 PM

Virginia, please wake up out of your stupor and get rid of this idiot! Look what the democrats have done to your neighbor, Maryland – a democrat cesspool.

mozalf on October 9, 2009 at 2:55 PM

I sure as heck didn’t vote for him. I’ll vote against him next time as well.

As for the people’s republik of maryland . . .

Mangy Scot on October 9, 2009 at 3:29 PM

I captured a terrorist cell myself. I think they were planning on attacking the Bartlet’s Water Show in the Wisconsin Dells. I found them with Water Show literature, a pair of skis, and a belt containing C-4. The problem was they had planned to attack in December, The show is shut down, and Lake Delton is frozen over. I have them tied up in my basement and I’m torturing them by tying my sneakers around their heads so they have to smell them for hours.

Jeff from WI on October 9, 2009 at 3:23 PM

I’m putting Jeff in for a Silver Star.

Mangy Scot on October 9, 2009 at 3:32 PM

The reason we don’t have more of these plots coming from Afghanistan is because we kicked the Taliban and al-Qaeda from their seat of power in Afghanistan.

…whereupon the important people and/or anyone that possessed a working brain packed up shop and moved to any one of ten million other hidey-holes around the world.

People, please get this concept through your heads: our enemy is no longer limited to a nation or even a group of nations

Nazism ground to a halt when we overran Germany. Japanese pseudo-samurai fanaticism, which led to mass suicide attacks that would make the Taliban proud near war’s end, were utterly for naught when the leadership finally admitted defeat and told all the grunts to pack up shop.

Islamic terrorism will not be like this! We can no longer win simply by steamrolling over the pathetic military defenses of some godforsaken land halfway ’round the world and declare ‘mission accomplished’! Islam is an ideology which makes national borders a thing of the past in its pursuit for global domination. Playing National Whack-A-Mole in a halfhearted manner merely costs billions we don’t have and makes our soldiers into target practice.

Dark-Star on October 9, 2009 at 3:40 PM

Dark-Star on October 9, 2009 at 3:40 PM

And yet when we *do* find them being harbored in some nationality, we shouldn’t steamroll them?

Sorry – when you find cockroaches, you kill them where you find them. If there’s a nest under the sink, you attack it and kill it, even if there are still cockroaches elsewhwere in the house.

Midas on October 9, 2009 at 3:48 PM

And yet when we *do* find them being harbored in some nationality, we shouldn’t steamroll them?

Midas on October 9, 2009 at 3:48 PM

The individuals and their immediate supporters? Darn skippy!

Preferably, they should be confirmed and shot on sight, perhaps with the exception of really big cheeses that we can parade around as trophies before they get their neck stretched. What with the libtard whining over the ‘rights’ of these animals, it’s really not too wise to take a lot of confirmed terrorists alive anymore.

Sorry – when you find cockroaches, you kill them where you find them. If there’s a nest under the sink, you attack it and kill it, even if there are still cockroaches elsewhwere in the house.

Fine, I agree with that…but then we march in and try to spread democracy to a house that doesn’t know what the hell to do with it?

We are quite capable of fragging roaches and their nests, but trying to occupy every house they’ve infested is madness!

Dark-Star on October 9, 2009 at 3:53 PM

Virginia, please wake up out of your stupor and get rid of this idiot! Look what the democrats have done to your neighbor, Maryland – a democrat cesspool.

mozalf on October 9, 2009 at 2:55 PM

The problem has recently been the WaPo conducting DNC ops against whatever Republican is running for office. Combine that with the large influx of gubmint bureaucrats from blue states into northern Va. and Tidewater.

Interestingly, former Dem Governor Doug Wilder will NOT endorse Deeds, the Dem candidate. For him that is as much as endorsing McDonnell.

I thank Jim Webb for his service in Vietnam. I also hope this term is his last as our senator.

TugboatPhil on October 9, 2009 at 3:56 PM

I captured a terrorist cell myself. I think they were planning on attacking the Bartlet’s Water Show in the Wisconsin Dells. I found them with Water Show literature, a pair of skis, and a belt containing C-4. The problem was they had planned to attack in December, The show is shut down, and Lake Delton is frozen over. I have them tied up in my basement and I’m torturing them by tying my sneakers around their heads so they have to smell them for hours.
Jeff from WI on October 9, 2009 at 3:23 PM

You can pretty much kiss that Nobel Prize goodbye with an attitude like that mister!

JusDreamin on October 9, 2009 at 3:59 PM

Whenever this happened under Bush it was quickly dismissed as drivel and not a “real threat.”

So Webb can kiss my a**.

drjohn on October 9, 2009 at 3:59 PM

Jeff from WI on October 9, 2009 at 3:23 PM

You are a cheesehead and a patriot! We all know that the terrorists can still attack a few thousand ice fisherman.

jbh45 on October 9, 2009 at 4:18 PM

Jeff from WI on October 9, 2009 at 3:23 PM

You are a cheesehead and a patriot! We all know that the terrorists can still attack a few thousand ice fisherman.

jbh45 on October 9, 2009 at 4:18 PM

LOLOLOLOL…thanks

Jeff from WI on October 9, 2009 at 4:31 PM

I captured a terrorist cell myself. I think they were planning on attacking the Bartlet’s Water Show in the Wisconsin Dells. I found them with Water Show literature, a pair of skis, and a belt containing C-4. The problem was they had planned to attack in December, The show is shut down, and Lake Delton is frozen over. I have them tied up in my basement and I’m torturing them by tying my sneakers around their heads so they have to smell them for hours.
Jeff from WI on October 9, 2009 at 3:23 PM

You can pretty much kiss that Nobel Prize goodbye with an attitude like that mister!

JusDreamin on October 9, 2009 at 3:59 PM

LOLOL

Jeff from WI on October 9, 2009 at 4:32 PM

I captured a terrorist cell myself. I think they were planning on attacking the Bartlet’s Water Show in the Wisconsin Dells. I found them with Water Show literature, a pair of skis, and a belt containing C-4. The problem was they had planned to attack in December, The show is shut down, and Lake Delton is frozen over. I have them tied up in my basement and I’m torturing them by tying my sneakers around their heads so they have to smell them for hours.

Jeff from WI on October 9, 2009 at 3:23 PM

I’m putting Jeff in for a Silver Star.

Mangy Scot on October 9, 2009 at 3:32 PM

The Silver Star??!! WOW…lol..think I deserve that more that Dear Leaders Peace Prize???..lol

Jeff from WI on October 9, 2009 at 4:36 PM

Meanwhile, in Webb’s own backyard, the Wahabbi Corridor and the Saudi Academy, home to budding terrorists and assassins expands to enable the stealth jihad.

Connie on October 9, 2009 at 4:57 PM

oops…Wahhabi

Connie on October 9, 2009 at 4:58 PM

No need to apologize, my state is stuck with sphincter……..er…specter.

same difference.

SHARPTOOTH on October 9, 2009 at 1:49 PM

Sharptooth: You have to check out the PJTV video on Specter over at Scrappleface.

onlineanalyst on October 9, 2009 at 6:34 PM

Minitrue now tells us we have long fought valiantly and victoriously against Eastasia…

MarkT on October 9, 2009 at 6:46 PM

It’s 3:00 AM and the phone is ringing…

Steve Z on October 9, 2009 at 2:47 PM

Obamao had to wait until 6:00 am for that phone call so that he could beam, “I won!”

(Isn’t he special?)

onlineanalyst on October 9, 2009 at 6:51 PM

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