Virginia, New Jersey gubernatorial candidates decline Palin’s offer to campaign for them
posted at 8:32 pm on October 9, 2009 by Allahpundit
Conservatives 4 Palin blames Ed Gillespie, who’s soft on Mitt and hard on Palin, for turning Virginia candidate Bob McDonnell against her when he took over the campaign. But is this really so hard to understand that it requires an ulterior motive to explain it?
Given her loyal following among many in the party’s grass roots, it’s Palin who could surely draw the largest crowd and perhaps raise the most money for the two candidates — her book, “Going Rogue,” is already the No. 1 best-seller on Amazon, more than a month before it’s even released.
“The governor offered her assistance with both races,” said Palin adviser Meg Stapleton. “The ball is in their court.”…
“With 26 days left until the election, we do not anticipate Gov. Palin campaigning in Virginia at this point,” said McDonnell spokesman Tucker Martin. “She has donated to our campaign, and we appreciate her support of Bob McDonnell, and her historic run as the Republican nominee for vice president.”…
Privately, Republicans aides in Virginia and New Jersey fret that a Palin appearance with their candidates could offend swing voters who are turned off by the polarizing Alaskan.
“A prominent rally with Palin could easily send the independents to the Democratic candidates, and at the same time, she could motivate the Democratic Party base to turn out at a higher rate,” explained University of Virginia professor Larry Sabato…
Added a Republican strategist who follows state politics: “She would be great in Southern primaries or straw polls, but a death knell in Northern Virginia among smart women.”
Romney, Huckabee, Jindal, and Pawlenty have all been to Virginia on McDonnell’s behalf. Proof of a Gillespie vendetta against Palin? Or just basic no-brainer politics in not wanting to “benefit” from a cameo by someone whose favorable rating among independents is 33/59? McDonnell’s sitting on a nine-point lead in a state that broke for Obama last year by six points; why on earth would he risk the upheaval of a Palin appearance, particularly when the Democrats have been trying to caricature him as the same sort of rabid social con that the media caricatured her as?
The hard fact of the matter is that Sarahcuda’s only a clear asset on the trail in a red district where the base isn’t turning out. That’s why she was a good bet in Saxby Chambliss’s run-off in Georgia last year: The GOP knew it had the votes to win the election, they just needed to give dispirited grassroots conservatives a reason to go out and vote. Enter Palin. In purplish states like Virginia (and blue states like New Jersey, needless to say), having her out there becomes a crapshoot because it risks goosing turnout among liberals more than conservatives. In fact, assuming that conservatives stay motivated to send The One a message next year in the midterms, demand for her will probably be low since turnout will be high even without her help. What am I missing here?










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by the way, wtf is a rightist liberal?
Erich66 on October 9, 2009 at 9:44 PM
Erich66: Its very close to Obama, as a ‘Fence Post Turtle’,
but actually there just average fence-sitters,they
wait till the majority makes up their vote,then
they’ll vote that way!!!!!!!:)
canopfor on October 9, 2009 at 9:48 PM
No buddy. She lied. Or, you could point to where exactly are death panels mentioned?
rightistliberal on October 9, 2009 at 9:34 PM
I see you can not follow simple logic. Increase in demand(new people on insurance) steady to a decrease in supply (no new doctors,hospitals etc) goal to get prices down. How do you get there. How do you reduce costs while increasing demand and keeping or decreasing supply? You ration. since it is a governmental program who is going to ration the care. Panels. will those panels/committie’s decsion’s results in some people dying? Yes. Thus those panels become known as death panels.
simple logic using econ 101. but I guess that is above your paygrade. Stay on the porch and let the big dogs play. You are in over your head.
unseen on October 9, 2009 at 9:49 PM
I think you and Seven Percent Solution have good points! She should stay away from the other politicians, have her own gatherings, whether they be for charities, or promoting her book, and let’s see what kinds of crowds she gets and then let’s see where she is. She can speak about conservative values – let voters decide who best represent them.
Queen0fCups on October 9, 2009 at 9:49 PM
depends who was on the other side.
upinak on October 9, 2009 at 9:49 PM
Bottom line: If it is working don’t fuck with it. If their numbers go down she will be very welcomed.
jukin on October 9, 2009 at 9:50 PM
What do you mean other side?
terryannonline on October 9, 2009 at 9:50 PM
Trick Question: How much of the content of the Code of Federal Regulations was enacted by Congress?
Chris_Balsz on October 9, 2009 at 9:50 PM
Against the current occupant of 1600, yes.
thomasaur on October 9, 2009 at 9:51 PM
She has given interviews – just not to Gibson or Couric.
She will do the TV thing when the timing is right.
massrighty on October 9, 2009 at 9:52 PM
if it was Obama… yes I would support Romney as I hold my nose and voted for him like I did in the primary.
If Obama was kicked out of the primary and someone else was there…. I may just stay home and let others decide. Even though I have never stayed home for an election in my life and help my nose on many an occation.
upinak on October 9, 2009 at 9:53 PM
We have a Winnuh!
tanx
katy the mean old lady on October 9, 2009 at 9:53 PM
Figure of speech, and it was in quotes. It was brilliant.
She shot down Obamacare. Rationing boards are in effect ‘Death Panels’. They are in Oregon and in the UK and other places.
She knows what she’s doing.
Sapwolf on October 9, 2009 at 9:54 PM
Exactamundo~!
Oprah’s a sucker for charisma.
Palin will charm O’s girdle three sizes looser.
And Sarah should be sure to mention that her husband is part Native American.
Played well, it would win her 20% or more of the now-wary women’s vote for 2012.
Oprah likes big ratings more than she like little old Obama.
profitsbeard on October 9, 2009 at 9:55 PM
Senate finance committee (Grassly R) took out the part about committee to decide the appropriate treatment for patients. This two days after Sarah blasted it. In other words if you are too old…no treatment. Also check out Ezekiel Emanuel (Rahms’s Brother) who is a medical advisor to Obummer. He advocates a viable period of between ages 14 and 40. Should circumstances occur of emergency nature folks betweens those ages will receive treatment first.
Herb on October 9, 2009 at 9:56 PM
She doesn’t need more ratings. She has a freaking book club, magazine and produces films.. besides her freaking TV show.
upinak on October 9, 2009 at 9:56 PM
Ann Coulter is a unique individual.
thomasaur on October 9, 2009 at 9:57 PM
I live in Northern Virginia. We pay all the taxes but don’t get back hardly anything that we pay because a great chunk of it goes to impoverished Southwest and Southern Virginia. McDonnell wants more of the money that we pay to come back here for our roads.
That is a conservative and correct ideology. Spreading the wealth is not. He also wants to cut taxes. So if you are a real conservative, you will vote for McDonnell, instead of a candidate trying to rob Northern Virginia.
What an idiotic comment, exactly what is wrong with the “moderate” Republicans. Did they not notice the huge crowds that came to her rallies in Northern Virginia last fall? Stupid women, not “smart women,” are the ones turned off by her. I’m not a “strategist,” but at least I know the reason why Obama won Virginia last year, unlike this dumb RINO professional (losing) strategist: Floods of foreigners in Northern Virginia and every black in the state (Virginia is at least 30% black) came out to vote for the “person of color.”
They are going to be staying at home this fall, so Sarah Palin will “polarize” nobody, but rather bring out the vote for McDonnell.
Gabe on October 9, 2009 at 9:57 PM
I will support who Gov. Palin supports. If she does not run and she throws her support behind T-Paw than I vote for T-Paw.
Millins will do the same.
Beware how you treat Gov. Palin.
oldyeller on October 9, 2009 at 9:58 PM
As Oprah’s own girth shows, you can always get BIGGER.
profitsbeard on October 9, 2009 at 10:00 PM
LOL…ack!
Acai berry my butt!
upinak on October 9, 2009 at 10:00 PM
Oprah’s ratings are awful.
Judge Judy is kicking her butt.
oldyeller on October 9, 2009 at 10:04 PM
terryannonline on October 9, 2009 at 9:47 PM
Sure, I as a Palin fan would be happy to support Romney. Now would you be willing to admit what is it about Palin (or, more likely, some in her fanbase) that makes you considerably uneasy?
BradSchwartze on October 9, 2009 at 10:05 PM
McDonnell best not take my vote for granted. Bringing in Sarah would guarantee a great turnout.
huckleberryfriend on October 9, 2009 at 10:07 PM
huckleberryfriend on October 9, 2009 at 10:07 PM
You’re on a Palin sighting fix. You has to have you some Sarah, and damn the costs. You’re going to kill Sarah in the crib, and crap on Bob McDonnell if you don’t tone this down.
BradSchwartze on October 9, 2009 at 10:11 PM
Wow. I wasn’t aware that I had to turn in my brain cells when I put that Palin sticker on my car.
I’m voting for McDonnell only because he is not Deeds. As far as I’m concerned he and Bolling are establishment Republicans. Cuccinelli running for AG is the only one who is truly a small government conservative. I appreciate McDonnell’s strategy here, but the ‘strategist’ that said this embodies what is wrong with the GOP.
Firefly_76 on October 9, 2009 at 10:15 PM
Sarah Palin was considered such a threat to Obama’s election that the Soros people went all out to destroy her and largely succeeded. In a transparent, unsophisticated and uncomplicated state such as Alaska it is relatively easy for city-bred, street-wise muckrakers to dig up dirt-either real or innuendo-and magnify molehills into mountains-aided and abetted by sympathetic TV stations and newspapers. In John McCain’s stupidly run campaign, he did little to counter the malicious lies spread about her and, alas, Palin too, inexperienced on the national scene, committed her own gaffes which did little to reassure an initially receptive public. The final straw was when Palin , after the election, quit the governorship, destroying any credibility she had left.
Palin might be an asset in some western states but in always-liberal New Jersey and increasingly liberal Virginia, she might dissuade some centrist voters from voting Republican.
However, with an obviously successful book and with a couple of more years of Democratic corruption, failed domestic and foreign policies, and the usual one major scandal every two weeks in the Obama White House, a more sophisticated Palin could arise like a Phoenix.
MaiDee on October 9, 2009 at 10:16 PM
She doesn’t seem to be ready.
terryannonline on October 9, 2009 at 10:17 PM
I prefer Palin to Romney and both of them waaaaaaaay more than Huck. Romney’s record in Mass. doesn’t fill me with confidence. However, if Romney gets the nomination, I will vote for him vs. Obama.
But then, I’d vote for a cheese sandwich vs. Obama. :P
Kirin on October 9, 2009 at 10:17 PM
Mitt Romney won a grand total of 18,002 votes [3.68%] in the 2008 Republican primany, but now he’s a kingmaker in the state.
Sure.
Terry_Dyne on October 9, 2009 at 10:19 PM
What makes her so polarizing? MoDo and Co. detest her. SNL parodied her. It’s uncool to like someone who’s detested by the NYT editorial board and who’s so open to parody. “Polarizing” is also a righty and semi-righty code word for “we don’t want people to say mean things about us. Please make it stop!”
But seeing as how “polarizing” and “despised” she is, she probably should just take her ball and go home. Let’s see the moderates lead the way to victory in 2012 with that Romney/Pawlenty ticket. Get fired up!!!!! LOL
ddrintn on October 9, 2009 at 10:20 PM
I will vote for who ever Sarah stands next to and supports, because she has the same principles as I do. A moderate republican is someone who does not have the courage to make up their mind and follow through with that decision.
jeaneeinabottle on October 9, 2009 at 10:20 PM
terryannonline on October 9, 2009 at 10:17 PM
SHE DOESN’T SEEM TO BE READY
Why are you so set on making a hard-and-fast judgment now in 2009 when the next presidential election isn’t till Nov 2012?
Why not reserve judgment and see how each of the candidates perform under fire during the 2010 midterms.
technopeasant on October 9, 2009 at 10:23 PM
Frum/Meggie ’12! (Campaign manager: Tila)
Spirit of 1776 on October 9, 2009 at 10:25 PM
The Republican presidential candidates will probably start campaigning in about a year and half. If I don’t think she is ready right now…why would I think she will be ready a year and half from now.
terryannonline on October 9, 2009 at 10:26 PM
Presumably your knowledge base would increase.
Spirit of 1776 on October 9, 2009 at 10:26 PM
Stupid is as stupid does .These fools believe in letting the state run media tell them to stay away from Gov.Palin.These fools should bring in Huckabee or Romney there real winners according to the state run media.
thmcbb on October 9, 2009 at 10:27 PM
They need to wake up and smell the coffee……..
PALIN is a winner!!!! she will deliver a 10x draw of support!!!!!!
LIZ/SARAH 2012
1luckydogg on October 9, 2009 at 10:29 PM
terryannonline on October 9, 2009 at 10:17 PM
When you follow Republican party politics, and read up on Republican party history, long enough, the paradoxes really get in your face. The Republican Party’s most beloved and respected Presidents (outside of Lincoln) were gentlemen (in every sense of the word) that were never “ready,” as the GOP establishment in various times defined “ready.” Really, did Theodore Roosevelt, Dwight Eisenhower, and Ronald Reagan ever consign themselves to GOP machine politics in the ways that McKinley, Nixon, and both Bushes have? (BTW, if you have concrete evidence that Reagan was the uber-campaginer for GOP candidates in the late ’70s, now’s the time to present it. He certainly wasn’t by 1986, when the class of Senators who came with him were swept out.)
Here’s another paradox: It’s been de riguer for Hollywood, pop culture, and media to declare Republicans to be either stupid, evil, or racist, depending on the timing of the threat. Yet the two most successful actors in poltics were both Republicans (and at least one GOP Senator from CA also cut his teeth in Hollywood: George Murphy.). It should be noted that Sarah Palin’s career arch before politics was in TV.
BradSchwartze on October 9, 2009 at 10:32 PM
We saw Cuccinelli at a Tea Party a few months back. There were plenty of us Palin people there and I had a sign proclaming my support of Palin. I can’t tell you how many people came up to me and gave me the thumbs up sign.
Cuccinelli is the real deal and will probably run for Governor next time. He is young and adheres to both Constitutions. Good man.
BetseyRoss on October 9, 2009 at 10:33 PM
I agree with the queen of cups, Sarah should take her own tour and give lots and lots of speeches and promo her book. I’ll bet the party will be surprised at her turnouts.
kringeesmom on October 9, 2009 at 10:33 PM
Indeed. As evidenced by her adam’s apple…
simplesimon on October 9, 2009 at 10:36 PM
terryannonline on October 9, 2009 at 10:26 PM
If your kid learned how to crawl at a certain age does that mean within a reasonable time he/she wouldn’t be ready to learn how to walk.
If a rookie QB performs poorly in his first year in the NFL by your reasoning why should a coach think he can be ready in a year and a half.
terryannonline, it’s called DEVELOPMENT. Just because someone is skilled doesn’t mean they don’t need a bit of seasoning.
because Tiger Woods won the Masters in 1997 does that mean in a year and a half you would expect Tiger to perform at the same level of productivity at age 23 as he did at age 21.
That is not how life works. And Sarah Palin is no different. If you really don’t think that Sarah Palin will be a better candidate in fall 2010 and fall 2011 you must either have your head in the sand to the realities of life or so blinded by Palin hate that you must have bought hook, line and sinker the MSM narrative that Palin is a bimbo extraordinaire.
Even I as a Palin supporter believe Mitt and Huck will be much better candidates in 2012. How much better that is yet to be determined.
technopeasant on October 9, 2009 at 10:38 PM
No damn wonder Rush has so much contempt for these inside the beltway wizards of smart like Ed Gillespie who by the way is big buds with Hannity .This is the reason Palin has just about had it with these jerks.These fools don,t know squat except how to screw up a winning campaign .
thmcbb on October 9, 2009 at 10:40 PM
That is the way Obama got famous…writing books and giving lots of speeches. Do want really want to follow Obama’s way to getting elected?
terryannonline on October 9, 2009 at 10:41 PM
Is it possible that she can improve in a year? Yes. Is it possible that she can improve to the point where people view her as presidential material? I don’t know.
terryannonline on October 9, 2009 at 10:43 PM
I hope you’re right (about him running for the top spot in the future). I’d go door to door for him.
Firefly_76 on October 9, 2009 at 10:44 PM
What do you mean what are you missing?
Demand for her will be high not low(see book, see speech request, see her say something on facebook, see you post about her every 15 minutes)
She is our future president in 2012 if she wants the job.
It’s her call not yours. Deal with it
Palin/Levin 2012(taking the bridge to the twenty first century and beating your ass with it)
kangjie on October 9, 2009 at 10:46 PM
What am I missing here?
Conservatism.
Kent18 on October 9, 2009 at 10:47 PM
Scoreboard44 on October 9, 2009 at 9:41 PM
Nice to know i’m not the only(victim)fan of the Lions,Tigers i’m a lifer. I amaze myself for how much abuse i can absorb.
heshtesh on October 9, 2009 at 10:55 PM
we will see how it all turns out in the end….
hawkman on October 9, 2009 at 11:02 PM
She doesn’t seem to be ready.
terryannonline on October 9, 2009 at 10:17 PM
+++++++++++++++
Well hell, if all it takes is saying it to make it so…
you don’t seem to have the brain of an amoeba…
fabrexe on October 9, 2009 at 11:06 PM
That number is rigged. Palin support groups have been buying up the book and passing them out for free.
Bill Blizzard on October 9, 2009 at 11:06 PM
So sales numbers are rigged because people are buying copies of the book.
Thanks for that insight.
Spirit of 1776 on October 9, 2009 at 11:08 PM
“She would be great in Southern primaries or straw polls, but a death knell in Northern Virginia among smart women.”
I am so offended by this statement I don’t know where to begin. Gosh, I detest Republican strategists.
Let’s just call these “smart women” what they are–abortion-loving liberals.
NebCon on October 9, 2009 at 11:09 PM
The RINOs are in control
We are doomed.
Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch’intrate
lsheldon on October 9, 2009 at 11:09 PM
Idiot. You and Obama lied.
PALIN NEVER SAID THAT THE PHRASE “DEATH PANEL” WAS “WRITTEN VERBATIM” IN THE BILL.
Idiot. Read Palin’s FB note first.
Plain English will TELL YOU THAT PALIN HAS CONCLUDED THAT HEALTH CARE RATIONING (you know what? MONEY MONEY MONEY) BY THE BUREACRATS WILL RESULT TO DEATH PANELS – take note of the plurality.
You’re just like those Democrat-leaning Bible “twisting” Preachers that abound in this fast-becoming God-forsaken country.
TheAlamos on October 9, 2009 at 11:10 PM
Bill Blizzard on October 9, 2009 at 11:06 PM
PASSING THEM OUT FOR FREE
What you fail to realize these “free-bees” are you refer to them will be like Xmas presents. Many of the those who receive the book will be family members or close friends and thus feel compelled to read it.
technopeasant on October 9, 2009 at 11:10 PM
If Obama is ready, will he let us know soon?
Nalea on October 9, 2009 at 11:16 PM
Just to add this to the mix
http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=508714
Clyde5445 on October 9, 2009 at 11:17 PM
Exactly. The bills are enabling acts. The bureaucrats will write their own regs in the CFR as to how to implement the intent of Congress. The Death Panel mentality is shared by most Leftist experts of national health care. Daschle, Reich, etc insist that the individual citizen must be alloted a fair share, even if most never exhaust it; those who do must be told “no”.
Chris_Balsz on October 9, 2009 at 11:21 PM
Here is page two
Clyde5445 on October 9, 2009 at 11:24 PM
Simple answer…..RINO’s running the show.
Sabato and Gillespie are part of the Beltway Cabal of RINO’s in the GOP….support whomever it takes to keep GOP power….Charlie Christ for example.
My money in both these races? BOTH RINO candidates lose their races, imploding Republicans in the Northeast (and that’s really what Virginia is now) is a Grand Old Party tradition.
It’s better Palin not campaign for them (for her sake anyway). Unless she’s willing to play along with the GOP lead dogs they are going to shut her out.
The GOP is a lost cause people.
PappyD61 on October 9, 2009 at 11:31 PM
So, Allahpundit. You’re saying that McDonnell and Christie will GOVERN like Romney? Because, if NOT, they are lying to the INDEPENDENTS who will vote them because of the assumption that they will govern as “center-right” (READ: McCain’s center pandering to the left).
Or.
HONESTY IS NOT THE BEST POLICY DURING ELECTION. NEVER MIND HONESTY … AS LONG AS YOU WIN ELECTION.
Oh, I get it. Just like the 2-termer Bush and the “I won” Obama.
WINNERS … AT THE SAME TIME, BROKE MANY PROMISES TO THEIR VOTERS!
Gosh. At least McCain was an honest fool… He’s leftist politician except may be in the case of Abortion issue.
This is the disease of the Republican Party. All its candidates and leaders are ready to throw their “conservative base” under the bus by pandering to the left. They are the first persons to treat their base like “lepers and morons”.
Last question:
In this kind of posturing, how are you so sure that the “Conservative Base” will still go to the voting precints in FULL FORCE for McDonnell and Christie?
Please note that the names like Romney, Huck and Cap-n-Trade Carbon-market Jindal irritate libertarians so much.
TheAlamos on October 9, 2009 at 11:33 PM
See? This is what I’m talking about. You’re so self absorbed that you think northern virginia is bringing in all the income when it is not. There are plenty of places in rural virginia that are thriving. While the factories in places such as Waynesboro are having a hard time, they are being replaced with other businesses in different sectors. Northern Virginia’s population is just bleeding from the beltway, thus the “me me me” attitude. We’ve got successful areas like Radford, Blacksburg, Christiansburg, Harrisonburg, Roanoke, Staunton, Waynesboro, and Charlottesville that while not as densely populated, are still bringing in tons of cash that is being sent up to northern virginia to pay for their slum city schools.
And the audacity to think you’re from the conservative area? I suggest you look at the voting patterns. Rural virginia is the only reason Virginia isn’t a pure blue state. If Richmond and Fairfax had their way we’d never see another Republican in Virginia. Thus why I am so dismayed that we’ve got a northern virginian republican running, and a rural democrat.
Vegi on October 9, 2009 at 11:38 PM
I agree with this and other posts regarding Republican RINOs. This handwringing nonsense about “smart women” is stupid. She is ready, on her terms, and when needed. As pointed out above, but another way….if they win without her, fine. If they lose, woulda-coulda-shoulda.
Romney is too wooden and MassachusettsCare tainted. Huckabee keeps playing the McCain shuffle to the center. Pawlenty is ok but none of them can excite anyone. We cannot afford to choose poorly again. If she is ready, as I suspect she is and will be, and if she runs, she will “death panel” O’Bama back to Chicago. Her world view of America is Reagan’s shining city on a hill. O’Bama’s is American exceptionalism is no better than anyone elses. Game over.
Starlink on October 9, 2009 at 11:40 PM
That’s some pretty massive support groups then. Did the same apply to Levin’s book? Obama’s? Beck’s? Nahhhh.
ddrintn on October 9, 2009 at 11:40 PM
I can’t quite decide whose comments are the most offensive — those of the so-called “Republican strategist” or those of terryannonline.
If you’re a conservative, honey, I’m a Yankee.
grits on October 9, 2009 at 11:42 PM
IF McDonnell doesn’t want Palin, I presume that means Palin supporters as well.
I happen to live in Maryland, across the river from Northern VA and have been working very hard on 5/6 soft Democrat friends, to defuse the “Thesis thing”. Maybe the “Post” had it correct and McDonnell DOES have a woman issue.
I guess McDonnell will be just as happy is they vote for Deeds.
Regards,
the Dragon on October 9, 2009 at 11:43 PM
WRONG! Oh sssssooooo WRONG!
Palin will not be a veep for anyone and Liz, who lacks serious executive experience, but is good in interviews will be Sarah’s press secretary.
And Liz will be a very good one.
Sapwolf on October 9, 2009 at 11:46 PM
Somebody needs to tell the 23,000 mostly female crowd who showed up to see Palin at a rally in Fairfax, Virginia, on a Tuesday morning last fall that they are not “smart.”
The reasoning here is flawed as it assumes voter turnout in VA. This is an off-year election and voter turnout is a wild card. In spite of the barrage of TV ads, more than half my neighbors are unaware there is even an election this year and the ones who are aware are disgusted by the mostly negative campaigns both candidates have run. The thing Palin does bring to the table is media coverage and excitement among the base who shouldn’t otherwise be counted on to automatically show up and vote. McDonnell’s campaign may be missing the boat here.
howIroll on October 9, 2009 at 11:46 PM
I always found it funny when people say she’s a polarizing figure. Is Obama not one? The guy has worse ratings than any pres at this point in their term and he’s dumb as a stump, he appeals to blood reds, yet theres posters here in NJ that look like he’s about to lay a fat one on Corzine.
Rbastid on October 9, 2009 at 11:49 PM
Nope, never again. And no conservative should ever again consent to be an eternal scapegoat for some losing moderate presidential candidate. Ever.
ddrintn on October 9, 2009 at 11:52 PM
“why on earth would he risk the upheaval of a Palin appearance”
That’s exactly right.
I love Sarah Palin. But if she wants to overcome the stereotype that was painted of her in 2008, she’s going to have to prove herself, which basically means running for President in 2012, and if not getting the nomination, at least performing well, and giving her a chance to get her true self known to a wider audience than just her devoted and dedicated base.
I think her Facebook essays are a perfect place for her to be, right now; and I’m really curious to see what she decided to put into her book. Given the serious bent of the Facebook stuff, I’m hopeful.
notropis on October 9, 2009 at 11:55 PM
AP sez:
I don’t think AP can judge this very well since he is totally convinced by the media’s caricature of Palin.
I really think he’s waiting for the return of Nelson Rockefeller.
Tyrone Slothrop on October 10, 2009 at 12:00 AM
She could campaign for me any time she wanted to.
I just need to run for something first, I guess.
JellyToast on October 10, 2009 at 12:03 AM
I am glad NJ said no as that would have been a mistake for Palin. Christie is nothing but a RINO like McCain, Spector, Snow etc. Campaigning for that dog t–d would have damaged her brand and diluted her standing as a real conservative. That idiot Hannity enabled RINO Christie to win the primary, let Hannity, the wall banger, campaign for the fat jerk. Christie could easily lose. As a prosecuter he was all for the flashy indictment with a big press conference who later failed to bring them to trial or let them get off or get a light sentence. Like a QB who has great practices but is lousy in a real game.
bill30097 on October 10, 2009 at 12:03 AM
She’s explained this – you missed it, because you chose to.
massrighty on October 9, 2009 at 9:39 PM
I looked it up. What I read was that Todd was a member and she did favorably address them but that the AIP’s goal is not secession.
I went to the AIP website and found this in their Q&A section:
Q: What is the Alaskan Independence Party?
A: An Alaskan political party whose members advocate a range of solutions to the conflicts between federal and local authority; from advocacy for state’s rights, through a return to territorial status, all the way to complete independence and nationhood status for Alaska.
http://www.akip.org/faqs.html
I missed her explanation during the election. What was it?
rjl1999 on October 10, 2009 at 12:04 AM
Yup, I’m contemplating writing her in in 2012, if she’s not already the candidate.
unwashed minion on October 10, 2009 at 12:04 AM
damn stupid liar. the book isn’t even printed yet you moronic pile of pond scum
bill30097 on October 10, 2009 at 12:05 AM
That she was OK with being governor but actually she wanted to see Alaska become the Grand Pentecostal Republic of Alaska, with its own Alaska Armed Forces and compulsory hunting and book-burning. Who cares? The smears are so old they’ve got hair growing on them. Move on.
ddrintn on October 10, 2009 at 12:08 AM
I missed her explanation during the election. What was it?
rjl1999 on October 10, 2009 at 12:04 AM
That she was OK with being governor but actually she wanted to see Alaska become the Grand Pentecostal Republic of Alaska, with its own Alaska Armed Forces and compulsory hunting and book-burning. Who cares? The smears are so old they’ve got hair growing on them. Move on.
ddrintn on October 10, 2009 at 12:08AM
If you won’t address the issues people have with her then she’ll stay polarizing.
rjl1999 on October 10, 2009 at 12:10 AM
Hey, publishing genius, the book is in PREsale. No one can buy up and pass out anything yet. Not until it’s actually, well, published.
Nice try, Sparky.
Tennman on October 10, 2009 at 12:14 AM
Show me a friggin’ politician who isn’t “polarizing”. It’s why we have “liberals” and “conservatives” and “timid fence-sitters”.
ddrintn on October 10, 2009 at 12:16 AM
To win Virginia McDonnell needs to win Northern Virginia. Remember…those are the people that Palin said are not “real Americans”. Remember that?
Decider on October 10, 2009 at 12:18 AM
Your ignorance on this issue is proof of your blatant stupidity and pure Kool-Aid driven madness.
Bill Blizzard will probably be the next UN inspector on Iranian Arms, or Obama’s future Afghanistan Advisor.
portlandon on October 10, 2009 at 12:19 AM
You meant that portion of the bill removed by congress that lying idiots like you claim never existed? Are you so ignorant that the words “death panel” need to be explicitly spelled out for you?
jdkchem on October 10, 2009 at 12:22 AM
How do you buy a book that won’t be released until next month?
jdkchem on October 10, 2009 at 12:26 AM
You’ve obviously never been to Northern VA.
jdkchem on October 10, 2009 at 12:27 AM
No…do you have the quote? Did she say that northern Virginians are not “real Americans”?
ddrintn on October 10, 2009 at 12:28 AM
^ I mean, hell, that’s pretty small potatoes in any case considering the DNC has called us “terrorists”.
ddrintn on October 10, 2009 at 12:29 AM
No surprise.The north east is weak as hell.If we ever really got invaded ,it would be like sticking a candle in a overly-fisted uhh opening.In other words ,like nothing.No resistance.
theTarCzar on October 10, 2009 at 12:30 AM
Palin cannot and will not win Reagan Democrats. She is far too much of a social conservative to do so. Romney maybe, Palin doesn’t have a shot. Palin can try to boost her economic credentials all she wants, people look at her and see hardcore Christian Conservative. That won’t bring in the moderates or the independents.
HeroesforGhosts on October 10, 2009 at 12:32 AM
Reagan was far more of a “hardcore Christian conservative” than Palin has ever shown herself to be, or at least he was perceived to be so. And on social issues she’s no more “hardcore” than Romney. None of those who are pro-life or anti-gay marriage have a shot. Except of course for Bush in 2000 and 2004, I guess.
ddrintn on October 10, 2009 at 12:34 AM
Basically, the difference between the theory that she turns off independents, and actual evidence that she does.
The difference is key in a tight race. If they think their candidate will win anyway, they may not want to take a chance. But at some point, this whole claim that Palin turns off independents will be put to an actual test rather than just an assumption.
I’m pretty confident of how that will turn out, because past history is very clear that conservative Republicans win elections and moderate Republicans … don’t.
ThereGoesTheNeighborhood on October 10, 2009 at 12:37 AM
That’s it in a nutshell.
ddrintn on October 10, 2009 at 12:40 AM
Two problems with this: (1) Palin herself may be socially conservative, but on social issues, she governed as a libertarian in AK; (2) Reagan was a social conservative.
Erich66 on October 10, 2009 at 12:42 AM
The record is pretty clear that moderates and independents adn Democrats will vote for an optimistic pro-growth conservative.
Chris_Balsz on October 10, 2009 at 12:45 AM
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