Video: Iran supporting Taliban in Afghanistan

posted at 12:55 pm on October 8, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

What was that about unclenched fists again? CBS reports that Iran has stepped up its cooperation with the Taliban in Afghanistan, in both money and weapons. However, the White House has muzzled the military from speaking about it:


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U.S. military officials have told CBS News that Iran is sending money and weapons onto the Afghan battlefield. But U.S. commanders are not allowed to comment publicly and it’s unclear to them what the U.S. strategy is for dealing with Iran’s increasingly deadly involvement.

The deadliest form of roadside bomb on the Iraqi battlefield – explosively formed penetrators (EFPs) – is now being found in Afghanistan.

Lethal armor piercing bombs that can slice through U.S. humvees are also an Iranian specialty.

More worrying still: U.S. intelligence believes Iran is supplying surface to air missiles to the Taliban – the very same weapon the U.S. supplied to the Afghan resistance to bring down the Russians.

Why does the White House want the military to keep quiet about Iranian connections to the Taliban? They want to keep enough political support in the US for direct talks with the mullahs. That support will evaporate if the military starts drawing clear connections between Tehran and the Taliban, especially with al-Qaeda as its ally in Pakistan.

This also puts to rest one of the silliest assertions of the war on terror, which is that Sunni and Shi’a radicals hate each other so much that they won’t partner with each other against the West. Shi’ite Iran has funded Hamas for years, which is primarily a Sunni radical group (Hezbollah is primarly Shi’ite). The Taliban are Sunni, as is the leadership of al-Qaeda, but they share a common enemy in the West, especially the US and Israel. Iran has every reason to support the Taliban and al-Qaeda in the fight against the NATO alliance as a means of weakening our position and strengthening the hands of Islamist radicals, no matter what sect they follow.

Iran sits at the nexus of radical Islamist terrorism, and has since its 1979 revolution. Obama may want to hush the military to keep that “secret,” but all it does is make the US look weak and ignorant. We should have pushed harder this summer to assist those in Iran who wanted freedom from the radical mullahs instead of giving the mullahs more legitimacy.


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This surprises me how?

upinak on October 8, 2009 at 12:57 PM

Wonderful.
And zero does nothing.

VegasRick on October 8, 2009 at 12:58 PM

tell me again, why can we not just wipe this scum off the face of the earth and say the hell with them?

theRealMcCoy on October 8, 2009 at 12:58 PM

Why does the White House want the military to keep quiet about Iranian connections to the Taliban?

Because the adults are not in charge.

Knucklehead on October 8, 2009 at 12:58 PM

Weakness, thy name is Obama.

Jaibones on October 8, 2009 at 12:59 PM

It also goes against the typical liberal line that our war is with Al Queda, and everything else is a distraction.

MarkTheGreat on October 8, 2009 at 12:59 PM

muzzler-in-chief

will wonders never cease with this poor excuse of an administration

cmsinaz on October 8, 2009 at 12:59 PM

In other news, a recent study shows that bears occasionally evacuate their bowels in heavily forested areas.

CurtZHP on October 8, 2009 at 1:00 PM

What did the President know and when did he know it?
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LincolntheHun on October 8, 2009 at 1:01 PM

Hey, it’s not Iran-Iran.

ncborn on October 8, 2009 at 1:02 PM

My husband has always thought that a glass factory would look really good in the area Iran is currently occupying. I am starting to agree.

Cindy Munford on October 8, 2009 at 1:02 PM

Remind me again why swing voters thought Obama would be a good president.

BuckeyeSam on October 8, 2009 at 1:02 PM

Obama, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory once again.

sonofdy on October 8, 2009 at 1:02 PM

can you imagine wanted to be loved so badly by a mortal enemy that you’re willing to cover up intel that clearly shows their active involvement in killing the people you’re tasked with commanding?

cpr on October 8, 2009 at 1:03 PM

Remind me again why swing voters thought Obama would be a good president.

BuckeyeSam on October 8, 2009 at 1:02 PM

Because he spoke well, had a good slogan, and looks good in a suit.

sonofdy on October 8, 2009 at 1:03 PM

Present!

/obama

aikidoka on October 8, 2009 at 1:04 PM

It is past time for the Explosively Formed Penetrator to meet the Massive Ordinance Penetrator.

fourdeucer on October 8, 2009 at 1:04 PM

It’s above his pay grade.

John the Libertarian on October 8, 2009 at 1:04 PM

Tell me again how the Tal-ee-bohn are not a threat?

Skywise on October 8, 2009 at 1:05 PM

In other news, the U.S. forces are funding and supporting the Afghan National Army. Funny how that turned out.

The Calibur on October 8, 2009 at 1:05 PM

The solution is simple 50,000 more troops and bomb anything that comes over the border from Iran.

sonofdy on October 8, 2009 at 1:06 PM

can you imagine wanted to be loved so badly by a mortal enemy that you’re willing to cover up intel that clearly shows their active involvement in killing the people you’re tasked with commanding?

That’s just depressing (and worse).

WitchDoctor on October 8, 2009 at 1:06 PM

Could someone PLEASE just tell the knucklehead in chief that “Can’t we all just get along?” is not a coherent foreign policy?

TheUnrepentantGeek on October 8, 2009 at 1:08 PM

didn’t we all know that Iran helped the enemy? weren’t they supplying bad guys who killed our soldiers in Iraq? I mean, I live in a town of 1,200 people in Southern Va. & i knew that.

why doesn’t the President know anything?

kelley in virginia on October 8, 2009 at 1:09 PM

WitchDoctor on October 8, 2009 at 1:06 PM

T

nyx on October 8, 2009 at 1:09 PM

The administration is actively collaborating with the enemy (Iran)
This is just sad…

nyx on October 8, 2009 at 1:10 PM

But I thought the Taliban weren’t a threat anymore.

vcferlita on October 8, 2009 at 1:10 PM

Why does the White House want the military to keep quiet about Iranian connections to the Taliban?

Because support for their “direct” talks bullsh*t would evaporate faster than you can say Camp David Peace Accords.

portlandon on October 8, 2009 at 1:11 PM

Funny how the White House is trying to spin the Taliban and on the same day the non-threatening Taliban bombs an embassy in India and we find out Iran is supporting the Taliban.

Is this White House actually that incompetent?

MobileVideoEngineer on October 8, 2009 at 1:11 PM

See this is what makes my blood boil…we’ve KNOWN for years that Iran has been supply Afghanistan with weapons to kill our soldiers. We knew for years they were doing the same thing in IRAQ. We know about their ties to Hezbollah and Hamas, and we’ve known for YEARS about their nuke facilities!!! They are the enemy. How could it be any clearer? GAH!

scalleywag on October 8, 2009 at 1:11 PM

Iran has had an amazing run. They even must be surprised of all they have managed to get away with. They have taken their time and will eventually be the force behind a war to rival WWII. Meanwhile, the United States has blundered through every administration since Carter attempting to act civilized against a savage beast.

Iran should be attacked and destroyed while we have resources on both sides of the country, but even better than Carter being in the Oval Office during their revolution, they have the worst collection of so-called leaders assembled in the US imaginable. Iran will continue to grow and kill Americans, and the POTUS will simply look the other way and use their lives for political gain. Hey, they’re just military personnel.

Hening on October 8, 2009 at 1:12 PM

tell me again, why can we not just wipe this scum off the face of the earth and say the hell with them?

theRealMcCoy on October 8, 2009 at 12:58 PM

Uhhh, because they hide in the vast mountain regions?

Uhhhh, because they blend in with the local populance?

Uhhhhh, because they have a safe haven just across the border with Pakistan?

Uhhhhhhhh, because no one in the history of the world has been able to defeat them?

How many more ya want?

David2.0 on October 8, 2009 at 1:13 PM

Where is BleedsBlue and the rest of the trolls?

Knucklehead on October 8, 2009 at 1:13 PM

Unconditional meetings.

Unconditional negotiations.

Unconditional surrender.
Take a bow, Barry.

Loxodonta on October 8, 2009 at 1:13 PM

Ohh goody! Does that mean that the Taliban have nukes in the near future?

Juno77 on October 8, 2009 at 1:14 PM

I cannot write what I am thinking about this person running our country.

ohiobabe on October 8, 2009 at 1:14 PM

But I thought the Taliban weren’t a threat anymore.

vcferlita on October 8, 2009 at 1:10 PM

“Taliban? never heard about them.” Charlie Gibson.

the_nile on October 8, 2009 at 1:15 PM

I’m thinking about it just doesn’t cut it while our soldiers are in harm’s way. He is in so far over his head. It is really sad.

rjoco1 on October 8, 2009 at 1:15 PM

I say we warn the Iranian people to run for their lives, give them time to do it, give them asylum if we have to, then count to 10 and drop a bomb on every facility over there. If Obama would do that, he’d be my hero for the rest of my life.
It’s time to DO SOMETHING before it’s too late.

scalleywag on October 8, 2009 at 1:16 PM

Until the Mullah are removed from power in Iran they’ll always be trying to kill Americans.

That this president continues to believe that he can make a grand bargain with them that will dissuade them from the radical ideology is laughable.

Revolutionary millenarianist governments simply must be contained or confronted; you can’t reform them with carrots and goodies.

SteveMG on October 8, 2009 at 1:16 PM

tell me again, why can we not just wipe this scum off the face of the earth and say the hell with them?
theRealMcCoy on October 8, 2009 at 12:58 PM

Because the cost to repair the bullet holes and blast damage in the senate and congress buildings would cost a pretty penny.

Bishop on October 8, 2009 at 1:16 PM

If the Iranians invaded Canada, would we supply them with weapons or troops?

The Calibur on October 8, 2009 at 1:16 PM

We should have pushed harder this summer to assist those in Iran who wanted freedom from the radical mullahs instead of giving the mullahs more legitimacy.

Agreed. But we didnt. Our contemplative precedent had to think about things and mull over strategy while people died in the streets of Iran, by thugs willing to do anything to push thier leaders agenda. Its the same systems of operations that Obama is using now regarding our troops in Afghanistan. Obama isnt looking for victory. He isnt going to get it either. Look at what Obama’s “contemplation” has wrought there in Afghanistan.

canditaylor68 on October 8, 2009 at 1:17 PM

Where is BleedsBlue and the rest of the trolls?

Knucklehead on October 8, 2009 at 1:13 PM

Was in a headline thread discussing how government run healthcare increases the net liberty of the nation.

WashJeff on October 8, 2009 at 1:17 PM

We’ve known for years that Iran was training and supplying insurgents in Iraq, so why should this news come as any surprise?

President Bush said repeatedly (and quite correctly) that any nation that helps terrorists…and the Taliban certainly are terrorists…they would be treated as such. What happened?

JetBoy on October 8, 2009 at 1:19 PM

Why does the White House want the military to keep quiet about Iranian connections to the Taliban?

Because when we find out later that most of the news stories coming out now are completely made up, then they will say that they were still vetting the information. They probably have a hand in this info that is being leaked, new Judith Millers are coming out of the woodwork. I really wonder how many of these stories will be placed into the Gulf of Tonkin, Iraqi WMD mobilization, Kuwaiti Incubators, Saddam can attack us in 45 minutes, etc. pile.

LevStrauss on October 8, 2009 at 1:19 PM

Why does the White House want the military to keep quiet about Iranian connections to the Taliban?

Ummm….because then he’d have to actually do something about it??? Maybe??

Present!

/obama

aikidoka on October 8, 2009 at 1:04 PM

It’s above his pay grade.

John the Libertarian on October 8, 2009 at 1:04 PM

BigWyo on October 8, 2009 at 1:19 PM

Where is BleedsBlue and the rest of the trolls?

Knucklehead on October 8, 2009 at 1:13 PM

Those that cannot identify liberty are will never know when it is lost.

BobMbx on October 8, 2009 at 1:20 PM

Wonderful.
And zero does nothing.

VegasRick on October 8, 2009 at 12:58 PM

Au contraire mon ami, By zerO silencing his military commanders from accurately reporting to either the public or congress, he is in effect aiding & abetting the enemy. I cannot see how anyone could come to any other conclusion.

Archimedes on October 8, 2009 at 1:21 PM

Buuuusssshhhh didn’t tell me.

yoda on October 8, 2009 at 1:21 PM

If I was the POTUS I would go on tv and say this: Iranian regime you have 48 hours to remove all your weapons, soldiers, and other influences out of Afghanistan and if you don’t we will bomb your nuclear plants.

lavell12 on October 8, 2009 at 1:21 PM

tell me again, why can we not just wipe this scum off the face of the earth and say the hell with them?

theRealMcCoy on October 8, 2009 at 12:58 PM

Uhhh, because they hide in the vast mountain regions?

Uhhhh, because they blend in with the local populance?

Uhhhhh, because they have a safe haven just across the border with Pakistan?

Uhhhhhhhh, because no one in the history of the world has been able to defeat them?

How many more ya want?

David2.0 on October 8, 2009 at 1:13 PM

Uhhhhhhhh, the OP was talking about Iran.

uknowmorethanme on October 8, 2009 at 1:21 PM

Funny how the White House is trying to spin the Taliban and on the same day the non-threatening Taliban bombs an embassy in India and we find out Iran is supporting the Taliban.

Is this White House actually that incompetent?

MobileVideoEngineer on October 8, 2009 at 1:11 PM

Yes, and it proves that(sorry Allah)that God indeed loves and blesses America

thebrokenrattle on October 8, 2009 at 1:21 PM

MobileVideoEngineer on October 8, 2009 at 1:11 PM

Really? Which “embassy in India” did the Taliban bomb?

Christien on October 8, 2009 at 1:22 PM

The Marxists are intentionally short-changing our troops, setting them up, to stunt their effectiveness.

Most of the Boobs in D.C. Marxist regime have no intention of winning this war. BUT…. They are more than willing to cause massive, tragic, levels of casualties within our own ranks.

The Af-Pak theater places our forces between a tottering Pakistan and an aggressive Iran…. Hammer and Anvil….. Taliban in Pakistan and Iranian Regular Army…..

PRAY FOR OUR TROOPS!

The best and strongest of our military will be neutralized, creating a crisis, hence there WILL be a necessity for a “Civilian Security Force”.

Couple that with the “Czar” infrastructure, the gullibility of the public, and the Commies in power, and we have a true demise of our country as we know it…….

Crisis is the vehicle to Fascism….

DON’T DOUBT IT!

rabidamerican on October 8, 2009 at 1:23 PM

We need to get out of there now.

True_King on October 8, 2009 at 1:23 PM

I wish someone had the balls, the finances and the connections to send arms to the population of Iran so they can overthrow their government. I dont see why we play patty cake with them when they are killing our soldiers without even trying to hide it. WTF.

javamartini on October 8, 2009 at 1:24 PM

Is this incompetence, wishful thinking or malovalence?

nyx on October 8, 2009 at 1:24 PM

What did the President know? & When did he know it?

portlandon on October 8, 2009 at 1:24 PM

David2.0 on October 8, 2009 at 1:13 PM

Never heard of Bappa Rawal, uhhh, obviously.

Christien on October 8, 2009 at 1:24 PM

lavell12 on October 8, 2009 at 1:21 PM

I’m thinking sort of the same, but do it behind closed doors with more aggression. Also say we will bomb your water, sewer, electrical, and other improvements.

Also Oil facilities if you still don’t comply.

Oil Can on October 8, 2009 at 1:24 PM

Is this White House actually that incompetent?

MobileVideoEngineer on October 8, 2009 at 1:11 PM

They are totally incompetent, but this is by design, since this White House is on the other side.

progressoverpeace on October 8, 2009 at 1:25 PM

Really? Which “embassy in India” did the Taliban bomb?

Christien on October 8, 2009 at 1:22 PM

I’m going to give them the benefit of the doubt and say the poster meant to say the Taliban bombed the Indian Embassy in Afghanistan

uknowmorethanme on October 8, 2009 at 1:25 PM

The Token will be responsible for the Death of a great American city.

omnipotent on October 8, 2009 at 1:29 PM

But they aren’t providing weapons-weapons.

csdeven on October 8, 2009 at 1:30 PM

Christien on October 8, 2009 at 1:22 PM

Here is a link to the embassy bombing

A Taliban suicide bomber killed 17 civilians and wounded more than 80 in an attack outside the Indian embassy in the Afghan capital of Kabul.

The suicide bomber detonated a car packed with explosives in a market across the street from the Indian Embassy and Afghanistan’s Interior Ministry.

The Taliban took credit for the attack and said the target was the Indian embassy, according to a report from Al Jazeera. The Taliban identified the bomber as Khalid.

Afghan officials are pointing the finger at “a state,” a thinly veiled reference to neighboring Pakistan.

nyx on October 8, 2009 at 1:31 PM

My husband has always thought that a glass factory would look really good in the area Iran is currently occupying. I am starting to agree.

Cindy Munford on October 8, 2009 at 1:02 PM

An excellent idea! Perhaps a few Marines with some Windex?

katy the mean old lady on October 8, 2009 at 1:31 PM

If the Iranians invaded Canada, would we supply them with weapons or troops?

Depends on whether the Iranians make it ashore.

booter on October 8, 2009 at 1:34 PM

And why are we not bombing the Shiite out of Iran?

WannabeAnglican on October 8, 2009 at 1:34 PM

IMHO, if our economy hadn’t cratered, the best option would be to evacuate anyone wanting out of A$$crackistan after a cursory background check (women & kids especially) and then render the whole bloody area toxic to carbon-based life to keep the terrorists from sneaking back in once we cleared out.

Dark-Star on October 8, 2009 at 1:35 PM

tell me again, why can we not just wipe this scum off the face of the earth and say the hell with them?

theRealMcCoy on October 8, 2009 at 12:58 PM

Well, like I sad ah, er, like I’ve always said, because, ah, He is the president and a Demorat!

dhunter on October 8, 2009 at 1:36 PM

This also puts to rest one of the silliest assertions of the war on terror, which is that Sunni and Shi’a radicals hate each other so much that they won’t partner with each other against the West.

Hold on there, Ed. I wouldn’t be so hasty. You underestimate the left’s allegiance to their silly assertions. Remember how AQ wouldn’t partner with Saddam because he was secular?

Kafir on October 8, 2009 at 1:36 PM

It is becoming as bad as the Chicago school system.

seven on October 8, 2009 at 1:36 PM

Where are our leaders in Congress who will express outrage about Obama’s successful efforts to hide the truth from the American people?

GaltBlvnAtty on October 8, 2009 at 1:36 PM

nyx,

Thanks for the link. That’s the same embassy in India that got blowed up what 15 months ago.

Christien on October 8, 2009 at 1:37 PM

tell me again, why can we not just wipe this scum off the face of the earth and say the hell with them?

Cause a lot of Secret Service guys would get hurt in the process and they seriously don’t deserve that.

oldfiveanddimer on October 8, 2009 at 1:38 PM

tell me again, why can we not just wipe this scum off the face of the earth and say the hell with them?

theRealMcCoy on October 8, 2009 at 12:58 PM

Uhhh, because they hide in the vast mountain regions?

Uhhhh, because they blend in with the local populance?

Uhhhhh, because they have a safe haven just across the border with Pakistan?

Uhhhhhhhh, because no one in the history of the world has been able to defeat them?

How many more ya want?

David2.0 on October 8, 2009 at 1:13 PM

None of that would matter if we were serious about destroying an enemy that bombed on New York City. But we haven’t been serious about our defense for decades. Remember there are five pillars of American global power: our economy, our population, our technological edge, our strategic alliances, and our atomic weapons. We proclaim our values preclude using any of them.

Chris_Balsz on October 8, 2009 at 1:38 PM

And why are we not bombing the Shiite out of Iran?
WannabeAnglican on October 8, 2009 at 1:34 PM

Patience! Sunni enough, someone will.

Juno77 on October 8, 2009 at 1:38 PM

Funny how the White House is trying to spin the Taliban and on the same day the non-threatening Taliban bombs an embassy in India and we find out Iran is supporting the Taliban.

Is this White House actually that incompetent?

MobileVideoEngineer on October 8, 2009 at 1:11 PM

Why yes…yes, they most certainly are!

If the Iranians invaded Canada, would we supply them with weapons or troops?

The Calibur on October 8, 2009 at 1:16 PM

Supply the Canadians with weapons and troops to help them beat away and decimate their Iranian invaders? Yes, I do believe we would.

Highlar on October 8, 2009 at 1:38 PM

If you could go back to 1967 and picture how things would end up in vietnam a few years later, wouldn’t you have said either hey, if you guys don’t clean up your own back yard immediately we are out of here. Or something along the lines of: linebacker II starts today and continues until they surrender.

No need to die for a war we don’t intend to win. I think we are at that point now. All in or all out.

WitchDoctor on October 8, 2009 at 1:38 PM

First-they kill us infidels.
Then they’ll go to killing each other.
What part of any of that do leftists not understand?!

Badger40 on October 8, 2009 at 1:39 PM

But, but Media Benjamin was on Fox last night and I learned from herthat the reason the Taliban hates us is becasue we don’t give them enough money.
or something.

max1 on October 8, 2009 at 1:39 PM

Now that I’ve panned down the thread, I must admit that I am utterly amazed!

This tripe to The One’s being incompetent has not worn off yet? At what point does the blatantly obvious not get your attention?

It comes down to odds, both possibilities & probabilities. If you are incompetent but sincere in your efforts you would probably arrive at the right decision 60-75% of the time. If you are congenitively indecisive and relied upon a coin flip to dictate policy direction, statistically speaking you’d get it right 50% of the time.

The proof of Obama’s competence (despite whatever his own pretensions may tell him) while he’s not perfect, you cannot acheive a right or wrong call 95-100% of the time without intent.

If you look at the economy, the dollar, our relations with former enemies and betrayal of former allies to the conduct of The One abroad in the supposed promotion of our interests, can one really not see accurately and realize that this is not a matter of competence, but exercise of true intent?

The man is a Manchurian Candidate!

Archimedes on October 8, 2009 at 1:40 PM

Hugo Chavez soon to be named Media Czar…

JetBoy on October 8, 2009 at 1:40 PM

Obama IS anti-American!!!!

How much clearer can it be? The sooner everyone realizes this the sooner everyone will stop asking “why” and “what could he possibly be thinking”.

Wake up people…the enemy lies WITHIN!!!!!!!

Flyboy on October 8, 2009 at 1:41 PM

And why are we not bombing the Shiite out of Iran?

WannabeAnglican on October 8, 2009 at 1:34 PM

1. We’re worse than flat broke.

2. We’d need enough bombers carrying enough bombs to turn every single bolt-hole into a crater on very short notice.

A fleet of bombers that size – and the infrastructure to arm/fly/maintain them – has not been seen nor funded since the B-17 was queen of the skies. See also #1.

3. The all-volunteer status of the armed forces isn’t exactly doing wonders for recruitment numbers. Our pathetic national attention span has already forgotten the fact that our very existence is being threatened by murderous cavemen. Even another 9/11-like attack (or worse) might not change things…I kid you not, the blame might be pinned on a false-flag attack or even by TEH JOOOS by the lamestream media.

Dark-Star on October 8, 2009 at 1:42 PM

Anyone remember ‘Animal House’? There was a scene near the end where one of the floats blew up and a woman dressed like a bunny flew into some kids bedroom. He was “reading” ‘Playboy’. He looked skyward and said “Thank you God”.

Well, I bet MooMoo RockOnJimmyBob has felt that way for the past 11 months.

Jed_Eckert on October 8, 2009 at 1:44 PM

My husband has always thought that a glass factory would look really good in the area Iran is currently occupying. I am starting to agree.

Cindy Munford on October 8, 2009 at 1:02 PM
An excellent idea! Perhaps a few Marines with some Windex?

katy the mean old lady on October 8, 2009 at 1:31 PM

Reminds me of a visit I had to New York 30 years ago, and the driver got his windows cleaned by one of those “friendly” window cleaners who then demanded money…I definitley think we need to “clean their windows!”

lovingmyUSA on October 8, 2009 at 1:45 PM

It is becoming as bad as the Chicago school system.

seven on October 8, 2009 at 1:36 PM

Awww, c’mon now, nothing ever gets that bad….oh wait! Obama and Ayers were in charge of improving those were’nt they?

Man, we are soooooo scrreeewwwwd!

Archimedes on October 8, 2009 at 1:47 PM

If you could go back to 1967 and picture how things would end up in vietnam a few years later, wouldn’t you have said either hey, if you guys don’t clean up your own back yard immediately we are out of here. Or something along the lines of: linebacker II starts today and continues until they surrender.

No need to die for a war we don’t intend to win. I think we are at that point now. All in or all out.

WitchDoctor on October 8, 2009 at 1:38 PM

You are supposed to be all in from the get go, or its a no go! You don’t lose lives prior to making that decicision, only after. In theory anyways.

Archimedes on October 8, 2009 at 1:50 PM

You are supposed to be all in from the get go, or its a no go! You don’t lose lives prior to making that decicision, only after. In theory anyways.

Totally agree, yet here we are at the decision point.

WitchDoctor on October 8, 2009 at 1:51 PM

Now that I’ve panned down the thread, I must admit that I am utterly amazed!

This tripe to The One’s being incompetent has not worn off yet? At what point does the blatantly obvious not get your attention?

It comes down to odds, both possibilities & probabilities. If you are incompetent but sincere in your efforts you would probably arrive at the right decision 60-75% of the time. If you are congenitively indecisive and relied upon a coin flip to dictate policy direction, statistically speaking you’d get it right 50% of the time.

The proof of Obama’s competence (despite whatever his own pretensions may tell him) while he’s not perfect, you cannot acheive a right or wrong call 95-100% of the time without intent.

If you look at the economy, the dollar, our relations with former enemies and betrayal of former allies to the conduct of The One abroad in the supposed promotion of our interests, can one really not see accurately and realize that this is not a matter of competence, but exercise of true intent?

The man is a Manchurian Candidate!

Archimedes on October 8, 2009 at 1:40 PM

I understand that most of what is happening is by design, however, you would think that the White House would be a little smarter about what they say. I mean come on, to say the Taliban is not a threat to us to try and justify the inaction or withdrawal from Afghanistan and then the crap today happens?

MobileVideoEngineer on October 8, 2009 at 1:51 PM

Is this White House actually that incompetent?

MobileVideoEngineer on October 8, 2009 at 1:11 PM

Must you ask?

GrannyDee on October 8, 2009 at 1:51 PM

President Bush said repeatedly (and quite correctly) that any nation that helps terrorists…and the Taliban certainly are terrorists…they would be treated as such. What happened?

JetBoy on October 8, 2009 at 1:19 PM

For starters, Bush screwed the pooch on punishing aiders and abettors of terrorism. If he had meant his big words, the regimes in Saudi Arabia, Iran, and other extremist states would now be history.

That said, Bush was a wimp, not a traitor. He meant what he said, but didn’t have the stones to take the battle to the real enemies.

His replacement is an out-and-out traitor. Instead of being too timid to protect the USA’s interests, he is actively giving aid and comfort to our enemies.

Where once we had a situation in which the enemy showed restraint because they couldn’t be sure our president wouldn’t wake up one day and issue mission orders that would send them to meet their virgins, now they can be sure that they’ll get what they want and essentially have our government’s permission to attack.

MrScribbler on October 8, 2009 at 1:52 PM

..tell me again, why can we not just wipe this scum off the face of the earth and say the hell with them?

Because we elected them to…

Oh, you meant the Taliban! My bad…

karl9000 on October 8, 2009 at 1:52 PM

I don’t get it.. Iran used to back the Northern Alliance against the Taliban. The Taliban would wipe away the Shiites if they had their way.

V-rod on October 8, 2009 at 1:53 PM

I don’t get it.. Iran used to back the Northern Alliance against the Taliban. The Taliban would wipe away the Shiites if they had their way.

I’m guessing side-switching has a long and honorable history in those parts.

WitchDoctor on October 8, 2009 at 1:54 PM

Why does the White House want the military to keep quiet about Iranian connections to the Taliban?

Quite frankly I don’t blame them….I wouldn’t want the public to know that I am sending our troops into harms way and supporting the people doing it.
Let’s be real here…why would Obama tell anyone that he wants to be friends with someone killing our soldiers? That would be political suicide, people in the past would be subject to charges of treason.
This is a man who does not understand that his actions or inaction kills soldiers, there is a total disconnect between his campaign, and the military.

right2bright on October 8, 2009 at 1:55 PM

Shhhh. Second war thread without Spathi or dave742 today. Continue to type very quietly.

kingsjester on October 8, 2009 at 1:59 PM

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