Speechwriter for Obama, Edwards can’t get health insurance in Massachusetts
posted at 2:55 pm on October 8, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
For ObamaCare advocates, Massachusetts is the Nirvana of government-managed health insurance. The state adopted everything they have pushed on a national level: individual mandates, guaranteed issue, universal coverage, and more. Unfortunately, former Obama and John Edwards speechwriter Wendy Button has discovered that all of this government intervention comes at a cost — one that directly hits her pocketbook:
In the past, I paid attention to the health care debate as a speechwriter who prepared speeches, talking points, op-eds, and debate prep material on the topic at different times for John Edwards, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and others. Now, I’m paying attention because I’m a citizen up the creek without a paddle.
In D.C., I had a policy with a national company, an HMO, and surprisingly I was very happy with it. I had a fantastic primary care doctor at Georgetown University Hospital. As a self-employed writer, my premium was $225 a month, plus $10 for a dental discount.
In Massachusetts, the cost for a similar plan is around $550, give or take a few dollars. My risk factors haven’t changed. I didn’t stop writing and become a stunt double. I don’t smoke. I drink a little and every once in a while a little more than I should. I have a Newfoundland dog. I am only 41. There has been no change in the way I live my life except my zip code — to a state with universal health care.
Massachusetts has enacted many of the necessary reforms being talked about in Washington. There is a mandate for all residents to get insurance, a law to prevent insurance companies from denying coverage because of a pre-existing condition, an automatic enrollment requirement, and insurance companies are no longer allowed to cap coverage or drop people when they get sick because they forgot to include a sprained ankle back in 1989 on their application.
And what did that do to premiums? Button has to pay a whopping 144% increase in premiums over her costs in DC, not exactly a city known for its low cost of living in the first place. In order to provide coverage with all of the mandates Massachusetts imposes, health insurers had to more than double premiums to meet the costs.
Nor is this the only such example of economic disaster that government-mandated coverage generates. Earlier this summer, we looked at Maine’s DirigoChoice, an Orwellian term for a program full of mandates on individuals and insurers. The combination resulted in premiums over 300% more expensive than in neighboring New Hampshire, and in an operating deficit so large that it no longer can accept all of the applications by uninsured Maine residents.
Button still hasn’t quite figured out the problem, although she’s coming close:
If Washington won’t go for a simple clean move to a system like Medicare for All, then it needs to do one reform, one new law, at a time — not with a 1,000 page bill where strange things can hide. Line up the 80 percent of things we agree on and vote one at a time to change pre-existing conditions, cut that $500 billion in Medicare’s “waste, fraud, and abuse,” create meaningful lawsuit reform, and add some real competition to insurance companies whether it’s a public option or a pilot exchange program. Show the country that this is possible with lower premiums and more efficiency and then go for the tough stuff. Critics like me want something done right because we actually are up the creek without a paddle.
She’s nibbling at it. The only part she doesn’t quite understand is that costs don’t go away just because we shove everyone into a single-payer system. She may not have to pay premiums any longer, but all of those costs get paid in higher taxes and rationing of care. Button still wants a public option and mandated coverage, even though that’s what has made insurance so expensive for her in Massachusetts and for everyone in Maine as well. Did that government “competition” make private insurance less expensive, or more expensive?
Oh, let’s not always see the same hands.
If we want more competition between insurers, then remove the barriers to interstate sales. Start working on tort reform, and dismantle the tax incentives that keep the third-party payers from interfering with the rational market force of pricing on supply and demand. Move insurance to its proper place, indemnifying against serious loss, and allow expanded use of HSAs to promote a retail model for normal care that encourages competition and the growth of supply.
Button almost has this figured out. Too bad she didn’t start getting a clue while she was writing speeches for Edwards and Obama.
Update: 144% increase, not 244%.










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The Curious Case of Wendy Button
WashJeff on October 8, 2009 at 2:58 PM
crystal ball syndrome
SDarchitect on October 8, 2009 at 2:59 PM
So, they are that sure Romney will be the nominee in 2012 eh?
Rocks on October 8, 2009 at 3:00 PM
Surprise. . . .
Texyank on October 8, 2009 at 3:01 PM
Another reason to keep MA health insurance scheme in the news, though not the primary reason.
WashJeff on October 8, 2009 at 3:02 PM
Shouldn’t that be 144% increase, or “She will pay 244% compared to her previous premium?
Didn’t get out my calculator to see if the 144% number is right, but it certainly not a 244% increase.
cozmo on October 8, 2009 at 3:03 PM
Tort reform will stay, because that’s what Democrats do best. Pander to their buddies. Especially lawyers.
Crossing state lines to buy insurance? Don’t be silly. That’s a republican idea, and won’t wash. The Dems are in charge, and by God they’re not going to use anything from any Republican, except for their vote. If they can get it.
It doesn’t matter if it’s affordable, because it’s not about affordability. It’s about power, and control. Rest assured, that the unemployment will rise enormously under this President, regardless of any massive overhaul of health care, and that’s the true plan. We’ll all be in poverty, and that’s what dems like most.
capejasmine on October 8, 2009 at 3:03 PM
But we keep seeing the same Ed’s stump health care proposal paragraph. ;-)
WashJeff on October 8, 2009 at 3:04 PM
Her rates went up because she has a crazy uterus disease and mental illness. – Bleeds Blue.
(Yes, he really wrote that)
lorien1973 on October 8, 2009 at 3:04 PM
Mitt’s thorn.
LoneStarGal on October 8, 2009 at 3:04 PM
How does the old saying go, something about a conservative being a liberal mugged by realty?
oldleprechaun on October 8, 2009 at 3:04 PM
RACIST!!!!1!!!
(someone had to. . .)
Jason Coleman on October 8, 2009 at 3:05 PM
Yeah, it’s a 144% increase.
lorien1973 on October 8, 2009 at 3:05 PM
If democrats actually looked at results produced from their poor judgment and actions…well… they wouldn’t be democrats.
jukin on October 8, 2009 at 3:05 PM
Why can’t Obama and Edwards pay for it out of their pocket? The two of them have gotten wealthy off the stupidity of others, so let them return the favor.
JammieWearingFool on October 8, 2009 at 3:05 PM
225 * x = 550
x = 550/225
x = 2.4 => 244%
WashJeff on October 8, 2009 at 3:06 PM
“was” is the operative word here. Maybe she did get a clue, and that caused the “was” condition she is in now.
BobMbx on October 8, 2009 at 3:06 PM
Welcome to the Bluest state!
Everyone here is an absolute nutter. If you don’t think so, check out Boston’s Mayor Menino (you have to hear this fat-tongued fool talk)…ready to serve and unprecedented SIX term.
State that just loved the fat, dead, toad Teddy Kennedy.
Gob on October 8, 2009 at 3:07 PM
Can she get on the “Late Show Plan” with Dave Letterman? I hear that one’s got all kinds of perks, if you know what I mean…
and you can push the costs off onto the provider… (read as $300 million worth)….
ted c on October 8, 2009 at 3:07 PM
But that’s not the increase. That’s how much more the program costs.
The increase:
(550-225)/225
That’s the margin of increase.
lorien1973 on October 8, 2009 at 3:07 PM
What percent increase? I see the dollar difference (the increase as $325, which is 144% of the original premium. Of course, her new premium is 244% of the original, but that’s not the same number as you’d use to express the percentage increase.
So she pays a 144% increase, but pays 244% of the original.
mr.blacksheep on October 8, 2009 at 3:07 PM
Smart assessment.
I agree with her.
AnninCA on October 8, 2009 at 3:08 PM
Sarah Palin is awesome.
Fish on October 8, 2009 at 3:09 PM
Mitt’s
thorncement shoes.LoneStarGal on October 8, 2009 at 3:04 PM
FIFY.
BuckeyeSam on October 8, 2009 at 3:09 PM
Couldn’t she find a way to blame this on Bush?
jwolf on October 8, 2009 at 3:09 PM
Enough with the calculus.
“She pays a hell of a lot more in Mass than she did in DC, merely for moving there”.
BobMbx on October 8, 2009 at 3:10 PM
Totally agree that 144% is the amount increase.But she would 244% of what she would have paid in DC.
Now, what percentage of the 60,000 people lining up for stimulus hand outs in Detroit would understand this math?
WashJeff on October 8, 2009 at 3:10 PM
“The only part she doesn’t quite understand is that costs don’t go away just because we shove everyone into a single-payer system.”
And please don’t forget that under a single-payer system, the Gov’t can come into your bank acct. and garnish what you owe them…even if one is on Social Security.
Peeps just don’t get that. Then again, look who’s our President/Precedent?
Gob on October 8, 2009 at 3:10 PM
I hear John Edwards had a great health plan for his employees too. Pretty exclusive, it included OB/Gyn as well as postnatal care for up to 18 years. What a deal if you can get on it. It sounds like some did though.
ted c on October 8, 2009 at 3:11 PM
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Skandia Recluse on October 8, 2009 at 3:11 PM
Bleeds Blue (12:34) said that immediately upon moving to MA, she got a diseased uterus and went insane.
Must be the water.
lorien1973 on October 8, 2009 at 3:11 PM
You mean you agree with fixing those things in healthcare that actually need fixing now, and leave the Marxist engineering measures for a later date?
Paperwork reduction in action, right there folks!
BobMbx on October 8, 2009 at 3:11 PM
Oh stop being silly, Ed. That all just makes too much sense so you know it will never happen.
bitsy on October 8, 2009 at 3:12 PM
Ah, calculator found.
225 x 244% =549
225 + 549 = 744
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225 x 144% =324
225 = 324 = 549
She will pay 144% more. So, it will be an increase of 144%.
It may be a small thing, but it needs to right, or detractors can attack the whole premise on a small mistake.
cozmo on October 8, 2009 at 3:13 PM
Isn’t this pretty much what everyone is saying at the town-halls? Nothing government does, especially rationing health-care is going to cost less.
tarpon on October 8, 2009 at 3:13 PM
Mitt has to be praying right now that Obamacare never gets passed. If this is a major issue in the primaries, his opponents will destroy him with it.
Doughboy on October 8, 2009 at 3:13 PM
Seriously, I think people need to walk away from healthcare. It reminds me way too much of other insurances.
We all know that car insurance isn’t real anymore.
Same thing here.
I’d suggest.
buyer-beware
AnninCA on October 8, 2009 at 3:14 PM
Ed, Come on man,
Necessary my backside. It is not necessary. Mass is cratering over this very issue. people in Mass and Maine are extremely angry. They were sold a bill of goods. I predict it destroying the socialist party in both states.
dogsoldier on October 8, 2009 at 3:15 PM
Yay, Maths!
Abby Adams on October 8, 2009 at 3:16 PM
What I’m suggesting is radical, for sure. I don’t think the American insurance industry has a smidge of credibility left.
It’s a pig in a poke.
Don’t waste money on private plans.
That is my opinion.
And no, I don’t see much real evidence that the reform by Congress is real.
It’s about like the mortgage bill or the consumer credit bill.
No real action.
AnninCA on October 8, 2009 at 3:17 PM
Ah. I missed that simply because I was busy, you know, earning a living. That’s one of those quirky conservative things, like guns and religion.
BobMbx on October 8, 2009 at 3:20 PM
Moreover, those of you waging war here against this administration?
You really don’t have credibility either.
You keep suggesting that national choices/decisions make a difference.
No, they don’t.
You’re not one whit different, to someone like me.
You’re all the same.
AnninCA on October 8, 2009 at 3:21 PM
AnninCA on October 8, 2009 at 3:17 PM
You’re saying the entire insurance industry is one big scam? A total fraud? Seriously?!?
jwolf on October 8, 2009 at 3:22 PM
They pay their bills on time and don’t imprison people who choose a different plan. Puts them ahead of Congress.
Crawford on October 8, 2009 at 3:23 PM
At a minimum with a state mandated plan we would have the option of voting with our feet, with a US government plan we would lose that option as well.
fourdeucer on October 8, 2009 at 3:24 PM
It’s good to be the boss! :D
lorien1973 on October 8, 2009 at 3:25 PM
Stop yer bitchin’! Come a few miles north to Vermont and you can pay $600+.
RightWinged on October 8, 2009 at 3:26 PM
At the ripe old age of 41, Wendy is getting her very first lesson about unintended consequences.
Emperor Norton on October 8, 2009 at 3:28 PM
AARRRGLE that pic makes me NAUSEATED!
THOSE FRAKKERS
arrgle, evil toolz, frakkers!!
backstabbing lying twofaced two Americas scum!!!
arrrrggggg
ginaswo on October 8, 2009 at 3:28 PM
dont talk to AnninCA please
she thought rape was funny this morning
clearly she ie beyond any discussion
she wants to make this a war with the admin
it is not
it is a fight for the preservation of our freedoms against an arrogant overweeing Admin that DOESNT GET IT
you dont overregulate in a recession
you dont raise taxes in a recession
you dont enact ginormous NEW ENTITLEMENTS in an environment of SUBPAR GDP GROWTH!
ginaswo on October 8, 2009 at 3:30 PM
As they say, a conservative is a liberal who’s been mobbed by reality.
year_of_the_dingo on October 8, 2009 at 3:31 PM
Ssshhhh…..(Ann’s been drinking again. You can tell by the use of single sentences to get her point across).
BobMbx on October 8, 2009 at 3:31 PM
ACE just posted a piece that neatly encapsulates the intellectual wannabe lib vs populist American people conflict. It also summarizes what people like Ann likely think and why people like me a fan of Sarah and Hillary, object to in this Admin:
ginaswo on October 8, 2009 at 3:32 PM
year of the dingo
that says it nicely! I was a liberal and I definitely feel like I got mugged by the Dems after years of supporting them
sigh
well at least I learned!
ginaswo on October 8, 2009 at 3:33 PM
There are two America’s the haves and the have-nots…she is working for the “haves”, they are multi millionaires. My advice is to ask them to buy her insurance.
Edwards has millions, he can easily afford to buy her insurance, and it would not effect his lifestyle one bit….but there are two Americas, and she is not the “right” one…
right2bright on October 8, 2009 at 3:33 PM
Hey! Why quibble over a few hundred dollars here and there? So what if it costs 144% more? Just look at the great care she’s getting!!
Oh, she’s not getting any?
Never mind.
GoldenEagle4444 on October 8, 2009 at 3:34 PM
Yes, her stupid argument was that a doctor did not do his job, did not tell the insurance all of the situations with a client, so the insurance canceled her operation because they had misinformation from the doctor…it wasn’t the insurances fault, it was the doctor…she thinks that is an insurance scam.
She is anti-insurance, will not admit that the real insurance scams are from the public on the insurance…that is what is driving the cost up, public fraud, and lawsuits.
She has not a clue….well she does, she is a liberal moby…
right2bright on October 8, 2009 at 3:37 PM
The speechwriter for John Edwards complaining about the not being able to afford healthcare.
Talk to your former boss Missy, his lawsuits had a good hand in getting it that way.
portlandon on October 8, 2009 at 3:38 PM
Really? I thought it was in the afternoon Krispy Kremes puts out their “day-olds”, and she can only type with one hand while eating…
right2bright on October 8, 2009 at 3:39 PM
I certainly did not, you you lying SOS.
I said that it was as likely that her insurance went up because she’s been treated for mental illness and a uterine condition (she also turned 40) and her new company saw her as a greater risk. That’s what insurance companies do.
She didn’t do any actual reporting, so she has no real idea while her rates went up so dramatically. My guess is at least as good as hers. Better, possibly. because I’m not trying to sell anything.
lorien1973 — what a weasel. Same tactics, same skull capacity as a rodent.
Bleeds Blue on October 8, 2009 at 3:40 PM
When I moved here, if I was an OB, I could have bought any house for no down, and 0% interest because so many OB’s moved out of NC because of Edwards and his cutting edge lawsuits.
The doctors ended up being liable for birth defects caused from illicit drugs, or just “wrong” DNA.
They passed a special provision trying to limit the amount of claims.
right2bright on October 8, 2009 at 3:42 PM
Did I make you cry?
This from the guy who said that conservatives should stick to ad hominems, right? Bread and butter, right?
You just confirmed my paraphrase. So what, exactly, are you upset about? Did I hit too close to home, again?
Maybe you want to call her a whiny turncoat again. And then complain about her uterus, or something.
lorien1973 on October 8, 2009 at 3:43 PM
She worked for John Edwards?? She could of become another of his baby mommies and be set for life. Laziness on her part, pure laziness.
Jeff from WI on October 8, 2009 at 3:44 PM
And….the fact that she simply moved from DC to MA, and her rates sky rocketed, immediately implies (to you, at least) that her uterus went nuts and she went mental.
Truth to power!
lorien1973 on October 8, 2009 at 3:46 PM
Let’s go to the tape:
“More likely it was because as a patient with a history of depression and strange uterine growths, she was a higher risk and so when she changed insurance companies they jacked up the rates.”
In other words, her rates went up because she has a crazy uterus disease and mental illness. Sounds like lorien had it correct.
Abby Adams on October 8, 2009 at 3:47 PM
She’s hinting here that she knows more than she’s letting on.
misslizzi on October 8, 2009 at 3:47 PM
Lorien by a knock out in the first round.
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Why would you quote yourself, bleeds blue, then say you didn’t?
Answer: Because you are a liberal and you can’t tell a lie from the truth.
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I am jealous Lorien, this one was so obvious and you get the credit…hang the pelt up on your wall.
right2bright on October 8, 2009 at 3:47 PM
You just type quicker then me…
right2bright on October 8, 2009 at 3:49 PM
Really, there’s something really troubling about this opinion piece. It demonstrates in the full how the Left is intellectually bankrupt. Here you have a writer working at a policy level that’s about as high as you can get, and she knows absolutely zero about basic economics, let alone the specific area that she’s tasked to write about. It really is quite scary that such people are in power.
year_of_the_dingo on October 8, 2009 at 3:50 PM
Her problem was no man in her life to figure these things out.
Jeff from WI on October 8, 2009 at 3:52 PM
year_of_the_dingo on October 8, 2009 at 3:50 PM
Agree 100%. Sounds like her job is to help draft legislation that will make people feel good, not actually solving any problem.
jwolf on October 8, 2009 at 3:53 PM
More.
On.
Abby Adams on October 8, 2009 at 3:53 PM
That’s a great point. So much effort is put into making things sound nice, that reality never seems to come into play.
lorien1973 on October 8, 2009 at 3:55 PM
Now I get it…you didn’t actually read the article. Stupid and lazy.
When my 10-speed hit a patch of leftover winter sand, and I went flying into a telephone pole, it covered the x-rays and stitches and concussion diagnosis. When a half a ton of sheet rock fell on me, my insurance paid for the cast on my foot. When my depression kicked in and I was hospitalized and painting ceramic pieces in art therapy to boost my self-esteem (sheesh), it made sure that when I got home my medical bills didn’t make me reach for a razor. And when there were growths in my uterus, it covered that medical procedure and every regular check-up, lab test, broken bone, sports injury, and antibiotic prescription in between.
When she went to the new insurer, they looked up her record and raised her rates. That’s the way they do. I’ll bet if she’d stayed in DC and changed insurers, she would have seen her rates rise, as well.
Reporting involves more than mouthing off, otherwise you’d be a journalist. Did she, for example come up with chart showing that average cost of insurance in DC is less than half that of a Boston plan? Or did she just throw out an unsupported assertion and let it sit there. Did she call either ensurer to ask them to explain the difference? Do we know how much actual insurance shopping she did?
It’s a lazy piece of writing.
Bleeds Blue on October 8, 2009 at 3:55 PM
“Just don’t let that bother that pretty little head of yours”
LOLOL
Jeff from WI on October 8, 2009 at 3:56 PM
I’m glad that you posted this thread. It deserves discussion. I was going to link it at the Baucus CBO thread but thought that it would be lost as the news moved on.
onlineanalyst on October 8, 2009 at 3:57 PM
She didn’t do policy, she was a speechwriter.
Bleeds Blue on October 8, 2009 at 3:57 PM
Ignorant. Most people are happy with their heath insurance, that’s been proven time and again. Why would she be surprised?”
29Victor on October 8, 2009 at 3:59 PM
A bold and stupid move by someone who just had his head handed to him…you have been disgraced by your lies and then weak attempt to accuse others.
You must now sit a the children’s table, and listen to the adults talk.
When you learn your manners, you may raise your hand and we might ask you to comment…until then, sit and learn to be honest, forthright and admit when you accuse someone of something they had not done.
right2bright on October 8, 2009 at 4:00 PM
hahahaha.
But seriously, folks, there are a lot of us who are going to be up the creek without a paddle if our companies drop our health care and we have to go to this plan. I know I will. My health insurance is a BENEFIT. A benefit they give me in lieu of a decent wage. And since my wages are so low there’s no way I could afford 3-500 a month for health care. And thanks to the economy (or rather, since I work for the government, thanks to government spending bankrupting the state) I’m not getting a raise for two years, either. But there’s little I can do because there are no JOBS anymore so I’m stuck.
scalleywag on October 8, 2009 at 4:07 PM
Massachusetts uses community rating on their policies, which means that both sick and healthy pay the same rates.
ICBM on October 8, 2009 at 4:07 PM
Speechwriters aren’t scriveners. They need to understand subject matter, too. A speechwriter who was not conversant in subject matter would sound like, well, you.
Mr. D on October 8, 2009 at 4:08 PM
It’s irrelevant, don’t you understand? Her low income level would have made her eligible for the state run plan – regardless of any crazy uterus diseases and mental disorders you think she has.
And that’s the point. Portability does not exist. That’s what -we’ve- been saying. If you move from state to state, you cannot take your plan with you to continue to pay your low rates from DC or where ever. You are forced into plan that cannot compete with other plans.
Do you not get it? Are you really this dense?
Furthermore, you are -assuming- her rates went up because of her crazy uterus disease and mental illness, remember? In reality, the state run plan on an individual is -more- (check it) than her current coverage – with or without any pre-existing conditions.
Given that the rates are higher in MA than in DC (without any sort of pre-existing conditions), your uteran and mental concerns are null and irrelevant. Now, aren’t they?
But she’s a whiny turncoat. So you can be happy with that knowledge, at least.
lorien1973 on October 8, 2009 at 4:09 PM
Point them out.
Not nearly the same thing. Policy people spend years in the field and make policy. The work on policy. Speechwriters spend a week on something and them move on, they work on communications.
Bleeds Blue on October 8, 2009 at 4:12 PM
Was she the one that wrote that John Kerry would make Christopher Reeves walk again? That would explain a lot.
PackerBronco on October 8, 2009 at 4:15 PM
Dude: I checked you link. Apparently she could get coverage with prescription drug benefits for as low as $277/month. That’s without state aid. Apparently she’s wronger than I thought, based on your research.
Thanks.
Bleeds Blue on October 8, 2009 at 4:20 PM
Whoa, Nellie! The Apollo Group that wrote the porkulus bill “had years in the field (in this case, of economics) and make policy.” What dream world are you living in? The folks in the Apollo Group had a political agenda.
onlineanalyst on October 8, 2009 at 4:22 PM
WHOA! “free” stuff is great… ’til it his my pocketbook!
mankai on October 8, 2009 at 4:22 PM
It helps to note that insurance as a concept and by design in the business plan phase was/is about spreading the risk of potential catastrophic loss by transfering said risk to another entity. The policyholder contributes their small loss (financially by way of premiums) to the larger pool of others. Classic risk management. Nothing more.
What has profoundly changed is the public’s notion that the industry should be something more than it was ever intended to be. In doing so, costs have dramatically increased thus to stay above these costs premiums have to increase. This increase has been compounded because of, yet again, government intrusion and thus legislation invading the free market. It’s economic law and the syllogism writes itself:
-Industry opens and businesses compete.
-External forces (gov’t) invade and costs increase.
-To stay in business, companies must pass cost on to consumer.
-Premiums increase.
You cannot find a more crystal clear evidence of the above than observing the history of the industry. And that is after all the increases in artificial involvement, cost, and rates the profit margin is still at a meager 3.9%.
Why would it be that the rate of premiums has been grossly inflated beyond the rate of profit?
Cost.
Always true. More importantly however, voter beware.
anuts on October 8, 2009 at 4:23 PM
Didn’t she want comparable coverage to what she had before the move?
onlineanalyst on October 8, 2009 at 4:24 PM
She is talking about a similar plan in MA to the one in DC.
Now you want to choose the insurance she gets and what it covers?
Get out of her uterus, dude.
lorien1973 on October 8, 2009 at 4:27 PM
All MA has to do manage costs is ration care and counsel older people to just take the pain pills and give up on life.
I don’t see the problem.
mankai on October 8, 2009 at 4:28 PM
Yes, and even the most basic plan (which apparently she didn’t want) costs more than her (apparently) better plan in DC.
And Bleeds Blue thinks he’s making a point, here? Geesh.
lorien1973 on October 8, 2009 at 4:28 PM
If she’d only opt for the $1 trillion deductable, she could get a reasonable rate.
mankai on October 8, 2009 at 4:30 PM
As a bonus, if she does choose to buy a plan in MA, she can sleep easy knowing her higher rates are helping pay for someone else’s insurance too.
And really. That’s freedom.
Right Bleeds Blue?
lorien1973 on October 8, 2009 at 4:32 PM
You were allowed up from the childrens table and ask this one question, then you may either apologize or sit down and observe how adults interact.
Do not embarrass yourself by arguing this very obvious false accusation…not that you can be any more embarrassed.
However at your table you may talk to AnninCa or Spathi, others will join you I am sure.
right2bright on October 8, 2009 at 4:36 PM
It is this post which illustrates the Orwellian nightmare perfect.
anuts on October 8, 2009 at 4:42 PM
Seems the point is she’s a crazy turncoat who’s lying lying LYING. They can never argue on the merits; it’s why they’re trying to plot some stealth way of getting their crap passed.
ddrintn on October 8, 2009 at 4:44 PM
lol, you kill me.
hawkdriver on October 8, 2009 at 4:48 PM
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