New White House spin: Taliban not really an enemy, has role in Afghanistan’s future
posted at 5:14 pm on October 8, 2009 by Allahpundit
No foolin’. They’re looking for any way they can to avoid giving McChrystal the troops he says he needs to secure the country, so they’ve come up with a way out. If the people we’ve been fighting for eight years aren’t the enemy, then the country no longer needs to be secured from them, does it?
If you thought troop morale was low now, wait.
Though aides stress that the president’s final decision on any changes is still at least two weeks away, the emerging thinking suggests that he would be very unlikely to favor a large military increase of the kind being advocated by the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan, Gen. Stanley McChrystal…
Obama’s developing strategy on the Taliban will “not tolerate their return to power,” the senior official said in an interview with The Associated Press. But the U.S. would fight only to keep the Taliban from retaking control of Afghanistan’s central government — something it is now far from being capable of — and from giving renewed sanctuary in Afghanistan to al-Qaida, the official said…
Bowing to the reality that the Taliban is too ingrained in Afghanistan’s culture to be entirely defeated, the administration is prepared, as it has been for some time, to accept some Taliban role in parts of Afghanistan, the official said. That could mean paving the way for Taliban members willing to renounce violence to participate in a central government — though there has been little receptiveness to this among the Taliban. It might even mean ceding some regions of the country to the Taliban…
Obama kept returning to one question for his advisers: Who is our adversary, the official said.
In other words, rather than eat crap by forthrightly admitting he’s prepared to abandon huge swaths of the country to Islamist fascists rather than invest another 40,000 troops, he’s going to create an artificial distinction between the Taliban and Al Qaeda to let him save face by claiming he’s focused on “the real enemy.” Much like how he was focused during the campaign on “the good war” in Afghanistan rather than “the bad war” in Iraq. I wonder how long it’ll be before he decides that not everyone who’s in Al Qaeda is an enemy either — or, better yet, that AQ’s been “substantially defeated” or something, which has been the unstated thrust of all those WH-leaked pieces in the press lately about how weak Bin Laden’s gang has become. Why, I’ll bet in a year or so we’ll be told that they’re so weak that we can start pulling out of Afghanistan altogether. Things sure have improved over there since Bush was president, huh?
How this squares with what Bob Gates said just days ago about the colossal danger of giving the Taliban a propaganda victory, I have no idea. Sounds like Hillary isn’t a big fan either: According to Fox News, “A State Department spokesman said Thursday that Clinton believes the Taliban and Al Qaeda are both a threat and the U.S. is fighting the whole idea of killing in the name of religious extremism.” More from the Times, which was first out of the gate this morning with quotes from unnamed senior officials straining to distinguish AQ from our new patriotic partners in peace in Afghanistan:
Some analysts say that the Taliban and Al Qaeda have actually grown closer since the first American bombs fell on the Shomali Plain north of Kabul eight years ago Tuesday.
“The kind of separation that existed between the Taliban and Al Qaeda in 2001 really doesn’t exist anymore,” said Anthony H. Cordesman, a scholar at the Center for Strategic and International Studies who has advised General McChrystal. “You have much more ideological elements in the Taliban. In the east, they’re really mixed in with Al Qaeda.”
Frances Fragos Townsend, who was President George W. Bush’s homeland security adviser, said the two groups remained linked.
“It’s a dangerous argument to assume that the Taliban won’t revert to where they were pre-9/11 and provide Al Qaeda sanctuary,” she said. Referring to General McChrystal, she added, “If you don’t give him the troops he asked for and continue with the Predator strikes, you can kill them one at a time, but you’re not going to drain the swamp.”
A thought experiment: What if the Taliban’s leadership “promises” not to shelter Al Qaeda and in return we pull back to some sort of wide perimeter around Kabul, only to find a few months later that AQ is indeed returning to Taliban-controlled territory? What’s our move then? Give McChrystal the troops he asked for initially and try to push the Taliban out of land we’d held before? Wouldn’t that require even more troops? Beyond that, if the U.S. military cedes areas of Afghanistan to the Taliban instead of pushing them out of the country to whatever extent possible, doesn’t that practically guarantee a civil war between the Taliban and Afghan troops loyal to Kabul after we leave? At best, you’d end up with a Lebanon-type situation where the Taliban, a la Hezbollah, dominates the country but allows the central government to exist to handle state business while it plots jihad in its own secure areas. At worst, you’d end up with them launching an offensive against Kabul from their territorial bases to try to retake the capital.
My sense is that Obama’s treating this as a sort of reprise of what happened in Anbar, where the U.S. made a deal with the local insurgents that they could police their own areas and suddenly attacks dropped off to practically nothing. The one problem with that analogy: Aside from AQI and a few other outfits, most of the Sunni insurgency in Iraq was a nationalist movement, not a religious one. That’s what the White House wants you to believe about the Taliban too, but it ain’t so. So freakishly fanatic is the Taliban leadership that Bin Laden’s actually sworn religious allegiance to Mullah Omar, not the other way around. If you read nothing else that this site has linked today, read Bill Roggio’s absolute total destruction of the artificial AQ/Taliban distinction that Obama’s trying to draw. AQ is nothing more than “the tip of the jihadist spear.”
It is remarkable that anyone would argue that a Taliban safe haven in Afghanistan would not necessarily lead to an al Qaeda safe haven there given that the two currently enjoy the same safe havens in Northern Pakistan. After the two jointly established the Islamic Emirate of Waziristan in 2006, for example, it should have become painfully obvious that they had not given up on their combined territorial ambitions.
Just as in pre-9/11 Afghanistan, these safe havens are home to broad cooperation between the Taliban and al Qaeda. The Taliban hosts camps for al Qaeda’s paramilitary army, as well as al Qaeda’s external network – that is, those terrorists responsible for striking the West. By some estimates there are more than 150 training camps, of various sizes and configurations, in the tribal areas in Northwestern Pakistan.
Senior al Qaeda leaders are routinely killed at Taliban safe houses, training camps, and compounds during U.S. airstrikes. Numerous Taliban leaders, including the Haqqanis (a father and son team who are based both in eastern Afghanistan and in Pakistan’s tribal areas, as discussed below), Hakeemullah Mehsud, Mullah Nazir, Hafiz Gul Bahadar, Omar Khalid, Mullah Fazlullah, and Faqir Mohammed host al Qaeda’s leaders and foot soldiers. These Taliban commanders conduct cross-border operations in Afghanistan, and aid al Qaeda in doing so as well.
That’s a tiny portion of the most comprehensive answer to the White House spin that you’re likely to find in the blogosphere. Don’t miss it. I leave you with a clip, also via Roggio, from of all places Al Jazeera, which is also under the impression that AQ’s become an integral part of the Taliban’s machinery. But then, what would Al Jazeera know about jihadists?










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Helping hand? That’s hilarious.
Mr. Blowjob is a welfare freak.
fogw on October 8, 2009 at 6:46 PM
Gosh in WW II we should have realized Germany was our ally in fighting the French and Chinese, don’t ya know? French Indo-China and all that!
Dhuka on October 8, 2009 at 6:46 PM
a progressive huh? how nice…how do you feel about the long history of RACISM and EUGENICS in the ‘progessive’ movement?? hmmmm???
right4life on October 8, 2009 at 6:46 PM
The events of 9/11 were truly the perfect storm. Almost every part of Al-Qaeda’s plan worked perfectly. It hadn’t happened before and it hasn’t happened since and it won’t happen again.
mr_B on October 8, 2009 at 6:46 PM
Liberal logic at work. Let’s not spend money defending our country and stopping mass killings, but let’s go into bankruptcy taking care of people who choose to sit on their assess or spend money buying a boat rather than health insurance.
amerpundit on October 8, 2009 at 6:46 PM
I think its time for the good General, the Ranger to visit with the good Muslim, Pinnochio again, this time in full all out battle mode!
Enemies foreign and DOMESTIC!
dhunter on October 8, 2009 at 6:46 PM
You would’ve been one of the morons insisting that nothing like WWI would ever happen again. Keep living in denial, Surrendercrat.
amerpundit on October 8, 2009 at 6:47 PM
It’s amazing that you don’t realize that without a military, none of your welfare state dreams could be realized. It’s also amazing that you don’t see what would happen if we left.
Vashta.Nerada on October 8, 2009 at 6:47 PM
It is offical.
Obama is a complete f*@king idiot. At least in terms of foreign policy.
In domestic policy, he is an idiotic communist.
ICBMMan on October 8, 2009 at 6:47 PM
Typical conservative callousness. Every recipient of welfare (or potential recipient of government healthcare aid) is just lazy. There are no other factors at all in play.
mr_B on October 8, 2009 at 6:48 PM
Who is our adversary indeed?
It’s the American people, that’s who. And Rush and Beck and Palin, and etc.
Dhuka on October 8, 2009 at 6:48 PM
Oh he’ll get your vote. From 13 different states, 13 different addresses.
If you really speak for millions of Progressives, you guys are Americas second most dangerous group only surpassed by sleeper cells & domestic terrorists.
portlandon on October 8, 2009 at 6:48 PM
I’m done arguing with the Code Pinko moron with his head in the sand. Thank God the overwhelming majority of the American people don’t live in his delusional world. See y’all after dinner.
amerpundit on October 8, 2009 at 6:48 PM
No you don’t.
You’re delusional.
fogw on October 8, 2009 at 6:48 PM
Poor mr_B, going around assuming that our soldiers are helpless, trapped little boys and girls who need rescuing by some douchebag liberal like himself: an a$$hole who is always the first to volunteer someone else’s time and money for things they don’t want.
mr_B, get a f*ckin’ clue: our men & women in uniform VOLUNTEERED to fight and be placed in harm’s way. At least most of them, aside from the occasional weenie like Markos who volunteered because he wanted to serve as a REMF and collect the GI bill education bonus without ever risking his skin in an actual battle. Not so with anyone who joined after 9/11, or have re-upped during combat.
As to Obambi’s latest waffling, well…we are phuqued, plain and simple. Even Carter wasn’t this bad. Carter was a bleeding heart liberal who at least (back when he was President) acted more or less in accordance with his principles, flawed as they were. Not so for Obama, though. He acts purely in his own limited self interest, and is such an empty suit that he could care less how others are using him in return for his gaining essentially nothing.
Wanderlust on October 8, 2009 at 6:48 PM
I’m starting to think that Barry agreed to Iranian preconditions on negotiations/surrender. Abandoning Afghanistan and Iraq would be important takeaways for Iran.
Vashta.Nerada on October 8, 2009 at 6:49 PM
All the terrorists need to carry out an attack is a chemical or nuclear explosive and a means to carry it to it’s target.
How do you Defend against something like that?
Juno77 on October 8, 2009 at 6:49 PM
The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.
- Winston Churchill
MB4 on October 8, 2009 at 6:49 PM
Good. Because he’s not going to. He’s going to waffle on the current strategy for a bit longer while our guys die (which is apparently cool with you) trying to implement his strategy with insufficient resources. He’ll ultimately approve a modest increase just to say that he did.
So if ‘millions’ of you retarded f*cks won’t vote for him, that’s great.
BadgerHawk on October 8, 2009 at 6:49 PM
Hey, Al Qaeda just got lucky on 9/11 (we’ll ignore the Embassy attacks, the Cole, et cetera).
We should have tipped our hat to them afterwards and just went about our day.
SteveMG on October 8, 2009 at 6:50 PM
very true…that will happen…in Armageddon.
right4life on October 8, 2009 at 6:50 PM
The Mother of All Expiration Dates: The Taliban Is No Longer a Direct Threat to Us
Then-candidate Barack Obama, July 15, 2008: “Our troops and our NATO allies are performing heroically in Afghanistan, but I have argued for years that we lack the resources to finish the job because of our commitment to Iraq. That’s what the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff said earlier this month. And that’s why, as President, I will make the fight against al Qaeda and the Taliban the top priority that it should be. This is a war that we have to win.”
And then in August, before the VFW: “This is the central front in the war on terrorism. This is where the Taliban is gaining strength and launching new attacks, including one that just took the life of ten French soldiers. This is where Osama bin Laden and the same terrorists who killed nearly 3,000 Americans on our own soil are hiding and plotting seven years after 9/11. This is a war that we have to win.”
And then in his convention address: “I will end this war in Iraq responsibly, and finish the fight against al Qaeda and the Taliban in Afghanistan.”
And then in October 22: “Abroad, we need a new direction that ends the war in Iraq, focuses on the fight against al Qaeda and the Taliban, and restores strong alliances and tough American diplomacy.”
The New York Times, today: “President Obama’s national security team is moving to reframe its war strategy by emphasizing the campaign against Al Qaeda in Pakistan while arguing that the Taliban in Afghanistan do not pose a direct threat to the United States, officials said Wednesday.”
Geraghty, NROWethal on October 8, 2009 at 6:43 PM
This is worth reading AGAIN. It is the 30 billionth time Turkmenbama has changed his sad, sorry story since he starting campaigning to ruin America. HE LIES!!! And lies and lies!
It is also a great blueprint to remember how disengenuious Libs are.
Gob on October 8, 2009 at 6:50 PM
Where did I call for the abolishment of the military? Oh yeah, I didn’t. The purpose of the military is and should only be defending the homeland. Fighting preemptive wars around the world in the name of stopping “terrorism” is a corruption of the military’s true meaning and purpose.
mr_B on October 8, 2009 at 6:50 PM
and if they hit another blue area, thats exactly what we should do…let the libs live and die with their policies.
right4life on October 8, 2009 at 6:51 PM
I agree with posters above, you are extremely offensive and your posts are off topic. I also vote for the banhammer.
dogsoldier on October 8, 2009 at 6:51 PM
The logic of a fool.
Truly the perfect storm, that almost worked perfectly.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
fogw on October 8, 2009 at 6:51 PM
Right. It’s beyond politics, right into treason.
BTW the source for this story is the Associated Press.
Obama sort of knew there was a war with the Taliban when he ran. If he’s not willing to do the job he can resign. If he won’t go we should consider driving him out.
Chris_Balsz on October 8, 2009 at 6:51 PM
Yeah. It would be much better fighting them street to street in LA or Phoenix. I see your logic now./
Vashta.Nerada on October 8, 2009 at 6:52 PM
So you feel Afghanistan is a preemptive war?
Oldnuke on October 8, 2009 at 6:52 PM
We have bribed them before, this isn’t new. Taliban is a religious movement, they are Pashtuns first. From what I have read they would like to autonomous Pashtunistan. Biden said, 80% of Taliban are hired muscle, they can be pealed off with money, ah they call them “tributes” that leaves 20% hardcore. Divide and Conquer we have used this on people in tribal systems before.
Dr Evil on October 8, 2009 at 6:52 PM
talking points, bullsh_t, more talking points, more bullsh_t
Doesn’t your wrist get tired?
Janos Hunyadi on October 8, 2009 at 6:53 PM
Where has my country gone? I have the Gov, telling me I can’t do this or that, I have to do this, because they know what is best for me. We have the Chosen ONE and his congress losing a war we could win easily if they had the gonads (and I include Bush 2 in that as well). Health care is going to be forced through, but of course the Gov people do not have to take it, just us peasants. I think there are enough people out there like me that have had it. I just pray we can change it back without any violent measures. I just do not know.
Teleycoman on October 8, 2009 at 6:53 PM
Ummmmm howdoya figger? We are not ALL raging statist putz`es you know.
NY Conservative on October 8, 2009 at 6:53 PM
Note to readers: If you “share Markos’s sentiment” about American contractors deserving what they get when they’re attacked and mutilated, you’re on the wrong site. Farewell, mr_B.
Allahpundit on October 8, 2009 at 6:53 PM
Afghanistan wasn’t preemptive, you ignorant f*ck..
BadgerHawk on October 8, 2009 at 6:53 PM
Thank you AP.
BadgerHawk on October 8, 2009 at 6:54 PM
I say let the person post. Why ban him? Or her?
Someone who thinks the war in Afghanistan will simply end if we leave is someone that is not a serious person. Not serious enough to worry about posting here.
SteveMG on October 8, 2009 at 6:54 PM
Then you better pick another candidate. Obama wont bbe getting your vote.
At CNN—-
canditaylor68 on October 8, 2009 at 6:54 PM
Thanks, Allah.
Vashta.Nerada on October 8, 2009 at 6:54 PM
Ms_B reminds me of the Soviet poet Mayakovsky who said “I am the spirit of the revolution.” He was later murdered, of course.
Dhuka on October 8, 2009 at 6:54 PM
Adios scumbag.
fogw on October 8, 2009 at 6:55 PM
Oy. I lose again.
SteveMG on October 8, 2009 at 6:55 PM
Allahpundit-hu akbar.
Oldnuke on October 8, 2009 at 6:55 PM
THANKS ALLAHPUNDIT!
Gob on October 8, 2009 at 6:55 PM
mr b is one sick individual. Why attack him? You’re giving him exactly what he craves. Ignore him because he’s not worth your time or effort. It’s futile to try and talk sense with someone who has none.
alwaysright43 on October 8, 2009 at 6:55 PM
So we are going to hold hands with tyrants again?
What could go wrong!!? Can we get a picture of O and the “New Taliban” Ambassador shaking hands, ala the Runsfeld/SAddam pic?
PattyJ on October 8, 2009 at 6:55 PM
Thanks Allah!
alwaysright43 on October 8, 2009 at 6:56 PM
AP Thank you, sir.
dogsoldier on October 8, 2009 at 6:56 PM
Thanks Allah.
elduende on October 8, 2009 at 6:57 PM
Well that sounds good to me. So would you and all your millions vote for a third party candidate even if it meant electing the Republican candidate? Even if the Republican candidate was, oh say … … Sarah Palin?
Oh wait, I just fully noticed your “if Obama has not taken steps”, which could be even a small retracement of his troop escalation, so you have given yourself cover and so your statement means basically nothing.
MB4 on October 8, 2009 at 6:58 PM
Thank you very much Allah.
ICBM on October 8, 2009 at 6:58 PM
Much appreciation AP. Thank you.
canditaylor68 on October 8, 2009 at 6:59 PM
Terrifying. This is absolutely terrifying. It’s as if the man is DETERMINED to get this country attacked again so he can be the big hero. Has he lost his MIND?
The Bill Roggio piece is an absolute must-read. Fantastic piece, thanks for posting the link. I’m going to send that link everywhere I can. As far as I’m concerned, everyone in this nation should have to read this information. And anyone involved in making anti-terror policy in this nation should be FORCED to read it line by line until it sinks into their thick freakin’ skulls.
Mad Mad Monica on October 8, 2009 at 7:00 PM
Thanks, AP.
Wethal on October 8, 2009 at 7:01 PM
Allah is Thor. King of the BanHammer.
Thank you sir.
portlandon on October 8, 2009 at 7:03 PM
Be nice if we could move it up a bit in the chain of events and avoid this Armageddon.
MB4 on October 8, 2009 at 7:03 PM
Idiot, coward, bastard.
jdkchem on October 8, 2009 at 7:04 PM
Well, this could all be a disease of the mind … from Mullen…
So Mike…how do you feel today about it all?
Is there any wonder why McChrystal or someone he knows…
Let the cat out of the bag…jeez, this is getting scarier by the day…
jerrytbg on October 8, 2009 at 7:05 PM
Thanks AP, and you did an outstanding job on this article.
***applause***
Knucklehead on October 8, 2009 at 7:05 PM
Mosques are plenty, graveyards are plenty, but morals and whiskey are scarce. The Koran does not permit Mohammedans to drink. Their natural instincts do not permit them to be moral.
- Mark Twain
MB4 on October 8, 2009 at 7:14 PM
Either A or B:
A: Let the troops WIN. Change the rules of engagement to allow for colalteral damage. When we are being shot at, we currently HAVE TO SEE THE ENEMY HOLDING THE RIFLE to shoot back, we CANNOT shoot at the house. FIX THIS.
OR
b. Bring them home, secure the borders, beef up intelligence and let the rest of the world defend itself.
There are no other options. What Obama is proposing is NOT an option. It will simply kill our troops for NO REASON AT ALL.
F*ck Obama – he is a traitor to our country.
JustTruth101 on October 8, 2009 at 7:17 PM
Thank you Allah.I was approaching stroke zone.
katy the mean old lady on October 8, 2009 at 7:20 PM
This only means that whomever gets elected in 2012 will probably have a terrorist assault to deal with and the same jackasses who are trumpeting this move will blame the republican president for their mistakes
Defector01 on October 8, 2009 at 7:23 PM
Obama is clearly insane if he believes that the Taliban have a role in Afghanistan’s future.
BottomLine5 on October 8, 2009 at 7:25 PM
Thanks AP.
XWing5 on October 8, 2009 at 7:26 PM
we could, if we had the guts…but history shows we do not…we could have destroyed islam from the 1700s on…but we refused…and we sure don’t have the guts to now…
short term, islam wins. the mahdi raises his wounded head…and then all hell breaks loose…literally…
right4life on October 8, 2009 at 7:34 PM
You know what’s really sad?
Obama is so worthless, he can’t even surrender worth a crap.
catmman on October 8, 2009 at 7:36 PM
Minus Israel and the handful of our other true allies, I’d endorse this over A. We desperately need to get our own house in order before we set out trying to do ‘nation building’ in a country populated with ignorant goatherders who’ve been brainwashed by a bloodthirsty religion for centuries.
There’s a Biblical saying about what little it is worth to gain the world but lose your soul…works just as well here. What, exactly, is the gain even IF we have ‘mission accomplished’ in two foreign deserts if our own nation falls to pieces?
Dark-Star on October 8, 2009 at 7:44 PM
Sounds like the Joe Biden influence at work here.
Goodness, we’ve elected an idiot!
(I would call Joe Biden the bigger idiot, but BHO CHOSE him. Tell me who the real dummy is?)
This story is a perfect example of why I had less of a problem with a Hilary presidency. At least she has the common sense to see the threat of fanatical Islam. She has always been a hawk.
Simple Voice on October 8, 2009 at 7:44 PM
You took the words from my fingers…not to mention that I feel like this is the end of the world…I am going to be on my knees every night for our soldiers. I cannot believe that two times in MY lifetime–we have surrendered and left a war in disgrace. (Viet Nam was my first…) I am heartsick.
brianpierre–I will keep you and your boys in my prayers.
lovingmyUSA on October 8, 2009 at 7:50 PM
But look at all the new friends we have to play with:
Hugo Shaveass, Casstro the Astro, Assinine-Jihad, and now Caliban the Taliban.
It is truly wee wee wee all the way home for a play date.
Dhuka on October 8, 2009 at 7:53 PM
+7%…
Seven Percent Solution on October 8, 2009 at 7:55 PM
Ron Paul Tard? Progressive Tard? Who was that masked tard mr_B?
My guess by the peculiar attitudes given is that he/she/it was a Moderate Muslim poorly mimicking a human stereotype. His madrassas Imam needs more cowbell.
BL@KBIRD on October 8, 2009 at 7:58 PM
Not Obama’s enemy perhaps. Our enemy though.
ronsfi on October 8, 2009 at 8:00 PM
Yea; And I LOVE YOU; the checks in the mail; And I won’t **me in your mouth!
And the media keeps coming! What’s up with that?
Cybergeezer on October 8, 2009 at 8:02 PM
Barack Obama agitated for the infinitely more strategically important Iraq to be conceded to al Qaeda and Iran. He said the Surge would make things worse. He denied the efficacy of the Surge even as the Surge targeted al Qaeda and peace broke out.
Anyone who is surprised he’s surrendering Afghanistan to the Taliban wasn’t paying attention. Unlike me.
Basilsbest on October 8, 2009 at 8:09 PM
The “progressives” and other idiots no doubt enjoyed watching the throat slittings, women shot in the back of the head, etc. in the public stadiums. That was the Taliban. Screw the progressives and our currentgovernment if they want that. They will have alot to answer for in the next life and a whole lot to answer for in this one.
wepeople on October 8, 2009 at 8:13 PM
Thanks Allah, I have a good friend who is a contractor over in Iraq. Getting rid of Mr. Bullshit is the only thing that has made me feel good today…
lovingmyUSA on October 8, 2009 at 8:18 PM
Can I help you point that thing?
Cybergeezer on October 8, 2009 at 8:18 PM
If the Taliban are simply peaceful agrarian patriots,that means that Al Qaeda is the only outfit worse than us mean nasty conservatives.
jodetoad on October 8, 2009 at 8:30 PM
You really have to be a Douche Nozzle to get banned at HA. Heh!
ronsfi on October 8, 2009 at 8:31 PM
And the real enemy means??? Why, average Americans, of course.
JellyToast on October 8, 2009 at 8:34 PM
UN urges stronger Afghan mission
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8298188.stm
“The UN Security Council has voted unanimously to extend the mandate of Nato-led troops in Afghanistan for a year and urged that it be reinforced.”
okay mr othebirthersmaynothavebeentoofaroff… the world has thrown down, whatcha gonna do????
brianpierre on October 8, 2009 at 8:43 PM
I have to suspect that Mr_B has never served in the military, and that he would have a hard time understanding “williness to die for what you believe in.”
Gang-of-One on October 8, 2009 at 8:53 PM
Every day brings a new policy or formulation from these devils that makes reasonable Americans grimace, shake their head in disbelief, or (at least in their minds) pull at their hair and clothing in biblical rage and frustration.
From their actions, one could reasonably conclude that Obama and the left are imbeciles and/or insane.
They are neither.
Their plan is to destroy our country from within and reshape the ruins into their vision of a statist/facist/socialist utopia.
They are executing their plan brilliantly.
justltl on October 8, 2009 at 8:59 PM
Hilarious. The UN, the biggest bunch of useless stuffed shirts since the League of Nations, urging a stronger effort in Afghanistan. And this while our affirmative-action elect prepares to emasculate our military. The world has truly turned upside-down.
Dark-Star on October 8, 2009 at 9:01 PM
Working with some Taliban under consideration: Hillary
http://www.thenews.com.pk/updates.asp?id=88583
brianpierre on October 8, 2009 at 9:05 PM
Today : I heart Taliban
Next : Jazia
The Taquiyya-in-chief knows no limits
macncheez on October 8, 2009 at 9:08 PM
U N B E L I E V A B L E.
2010 must be a bloodbath for these creeps. I’d say we should impeach the moron but it only gets incrementally worse every rung down the ladder. Every day more bleak than the last. Every headline more disgusting than the one before. Every decision more deadly tenfold.
Obama = Gutless Political Slimeball P.O.S.
Griz on October 8, 2009 at 9:12 PM
And this is how some others in Hussain’s happy happy world are spinning this
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/americas/2009/10/200910820153426532.html
macncheez on October 8, 2009 at 9:16 PM
My fellow thinkers, the aftermath of Mogadishu emboldened our enemies and helped lead to 9/11 only 8 years after that incident. The enemy is taking the measure of the president and they are ramping up their planning. When we flew away from Mogadishu in 1993, we gave AQ a handup for the next 8 years.
I sense the leadership of our country following a path of weakness toward people who want to kill your family, your children, and you.
Where are our statesmen? Where are our leaders? Where are Americans with red blood? I know where they aren’t…but, where are they?
ted c on October 8, 2009 at 9:17 PM
For the life of me, I haven’t read one thing you’ve posted on this thread that shows the sentiment of genuine regret that any soldier has died.
Yes, your spiel is “bring ‘em home,” but I can’t imagine anyone believing you want to bring our troops home because you’re concerned for their lives.
What would you know about the value of a care-package to an American grunt on the ground in a war zone? Absolutely nothing! As for the one way ticket home you offer to buy? Well, you’d be real hard pressed to find any takers, and thank God for that.
Gang-of-One on October 8, 2009 at 9:21 PM
2 words MEAT GRINDER!
xler8bmw on October 8, 2009 at 9:22 PM
Yay, the only troll I’ve ever nominated for banishment.
Bishop on October 8, 2009 at 9:24 PM
Oh how soon we forget
http://www.specialoperations.com/Images_Folder/library2/achille.html
It was on October 7th
macncheez on October 8, 2009 at 9:28 PM
Probably just another leftist wanker from Liberal Red Footballs (maybe even Killgore Trout itself, working through a sock puppet account), trying to stir up a bunch of crap so Chuckles could start an new thread over there about how we’re all a bunch of filthy war mongering racists and get his little acolytes to wee-wee all over themselves.
Gator Country on October 8, 2009 at 9:31 PM
No warrior wants you or others like you covering their back, because, in the words of one of my favorite posters, you’re a filthy lying coward.
Gang-of-One on October 8, 2009 at 9:34 PM
Oh, crap; Is letterman here?
Cybergeezer on October 8, 2009 at 9:35 PM
Hey, Meester Tollybon, tolly me bonona.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2203/2525670088_4c88f6b332_o.jpg
justltl on October 8, 2009 at 9:38 PM
That liar just broke his oath of office. Not that he really meant it anyway……….
ultracon on October 8, 2009 at 9:43 PM
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