New White House spin: Taliban not really an enemy, has role in Afghanistan’s future
posted at 5:14 pm on October 8, 2009 by Allahpundit
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No foolin’. They’re looking for any way they can to avoid giving McChrystal the troops he says he needs to secure the country, so they’ve come up with a way out. If the people we’ve been fighting for eight years aren’t the enemy, then the country no longer needs to be secured from them, does it?
If you thought troop morale was low now, wait.
Though aides stress that the president’s final decision on any changes is still at least two weeks away, the emerging thinking suggests that he would be very unlikely to favor a large military increase of the kind being advocated by the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan, Gen. Stanley McChrystal…
Obama’s developing strategy on the Taliban will “not tolerate their return to power,” the senior official said in an interview with The Associated Press. But the U.S. would fight only to keep the Taliban from retaking control of Afghanistan’s central government — something it is now far from being capable of — and from giving renewed sanctuary in Afghanistan to al-Qaida, the official said…
Bowing to the reality that the Taliban is too ingrained in Afghanistan’s culture to be entirely defeated, the administration is prepared, as it has been for some time, to accept some Taliban role in parts of Afghanistan, the official said. That could mean paving the way for Taliban members willing to renounce violence to participate in a central government — though there has been little receptiveness to this among the Taliban. It might even mean ceding some regions of the country to the Taliban…
Obama kept returning to one question for his advisers: Who is our adversary, the official said.
In other words, rather than eat crap by forthrightly admitting he’s prepared to abandon huge swaths of the country to Islamist fascists rather than invest another 40,000 troops, he’s going to create an artificial distinction between the Taliban and Al Qaeda to let him save face by claiming he’s focused on “the real enemy.” Much like how he was focused during the campaign on “the good war” in Afghanistan rather than “the bad war” in Iraq. I wonder how long it’ll be before he decides that not everyone who’s in Al Qaeda is an enemy either — or, better yet, that AQ’s been “substantially defeated” or something, which has been the unstated thrust of all those WH-leaked pieces in the press lately about how weak Bin Laden’s gang has become. Why, I’ll bet in a year or so we’ll be told that they’re so weak that we can start pulling out of Afghanistan altogether. Things sure have improved over there since Bush was president, huh?
How this squares with what Bob Gates said just days ago about the colossal danger of giving the Taliban a propaganda victory, I have no idea. Sounds like Hillary isn’t a big fan either: According to Fox News, “A State Department spokesman said Thursday that Clinton believes the Taliban and Al Qaeda are both a threat and the U.S. is fighting the whole idea of killing in the name of religious extremism.” More from the Times, which was first out of the gate this morning with quotes from unnamed senior officials straining to distinguish AQ from our new patriotic partners in peace in Afghanistan:
Some analysts say that the Taliban and Al Qaeda have actually grown closer since the first American bombs fell on the Shomali Plain north of Kabul eight years ago Tuesday.
“The kind of separation that existed between the Taliban and Al Qaeda in 2001 really doesn’t exist anymore,” said Anthony H. Cordesman, a scholar at the Center for Strategic and International Studies who has advised General McChrystal. “You have much more ideological elements in the Taliban. In the east, they’re really mixed in with Al Qaeda.”
Frances Fragos Townsend, who was President George W. Bush’s homeland security adviser, said the two groups remained linked.
“It’s a dangerous argument to assume that the Taliban won’t revert to where they were pre-9/11 and provide Al Qaeda sanctuary,” she said. Referring to General McChrystal, she added, “If you don’t give him the troops he asked for and continue with the Predator strikes, you can kill them one at a time, but you’re not going to drain the swamp.”
A thought experiment: What if the Taliban’s leadership “promises” not to shelter Al Qaeda and in return we pull back to some sort of wide perimeter around Kabul, only to find a few months later that AQ is indeed returning to Taliban-controlled territory? What’s our move then? Give McChrystal the troops he asked for initially and try to push the Taliban out of land we’d held before? Wouldn’t that require even more troops? Beyond that, if the U.S. military cedes areas of Afghanistan to the Taliban instead of pushing them out of the country to whatever extent possible, doesn’t that practically guarantee a civil war between the Taliban and Afghan troops loyal to Kabul after we leave? At best, you’d end up with a Lebanon-type situation where the Taliban, a la Hezbollah, dominates the country but allows the central government to exist to handle state business while it plots jihad in its own secure areas. At worst, you’d end up with them launching an offensive against Kabul from their territorial bases to try to retake the capital.
My sense is that Obama’s treating this as a sort of reprise of what happened in Anbar, where the U.S. made a deal with the local insurgents that they could police their own areas and suddenly attacks dropped off to practically nothing. The one problem with that analogy: Aside from AQI and a few other outfits, most of the Sunni insurgency in Iraq was a nationalist movement, not a religious one. That’s what the White House wants you to believe about the Taliban too, but it ain’t so. So freakishly fanatic is the Taliban leadership that Bin Laden’s actually sworn religious allegiance to Mullah Omar, not the other way around. If you read nothing else that this site has linked today, read Bill Roggio’s absolute total destruction of the artificial AQ/Taliban distinction that Obama’s trying to draw. AQ is nothing more than “the tip of the jihadist spear.”
It is remarkable that anyone would argue that a Taliban safe haven in Afghanistan would not necessarily lead to an al Qaeda safe haven there given that the two currently enjoy the same safe havens in Northern Pakistan. After the two jointly established the Islamic Emirate of Waziristan in 2006, for example, it should have become painfully obvious that they had not given up on their combined territorial ambitions.
Just as in pre-9/11 Afghanistan, these safe havens are home to broad cooperation between the Taliban and al Qaeda. The Taliban hosts camps for al Qaeda’s paramilitary army, as well as al Qaeda’s external network – that is, those terrorists responsible for striking the West. By some estimates there are more than 150 training camps, of various sizes and configurations, in the tribal areas in Northwestern Pakistan.
Senior al Qaeda leaders are routinely killed at Taliban safe houses, training camps, and compounds during U.S. airstrikes. Numerous Taliban leaders, including the Haqqanis (a father and son team who are based both in eastern Afghanistan and in Pakistan’s tribal areas, as discussed below), Hakeemullah Mehsud, Mullah Nazir, Hafiz Gul Bahadar, Omar Khalid, Mullah Fazlullah, and Faqir Mohammed host al Qaeda’s leaders and foot soldiers. These Taliban commanders conduct cross-border operations in Afghanistan, and aid al Qaeda in doing so as well.
That’s a tiny portion of the most comprehensive answer to the White House spin that you’re likely to find in the blogosphere. Don’t miss it. I leave you with a clip, also via Roggio, from of all places Al Jazeera, which is also under the impression that AQ’s become an integral part of the Taliban’s machinery. But then, what would Al Jazeera know about jihadists?
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The New, Improved, Obama-Friendly Taliban?
Barry’s either a total frikkin’idiot…. mmmmm, mmmmm, mmmm… or a de facto Machurian Candidate.
Obama Hussein Crypto-Marxist Loser Fool, bowing to the Saudis and now the terrorists.
I guess killing women in soccer stadiums for being uppity is a Muslim form of community organizing, in his eyes.
profitsbeard on October 8, 2009 at 6:15 PM
Only to a moron is American national security a “political cause”. One side might be more concerned about it, but it’s not a “political cause”. It’s something both parties should, but aren’t, concerned with.
If Obama was doing what was needed to win the war in Afghanistan, we’d be standing with him. Just like we stood against Bush when we opposed what he was doing on immigration, the Dubai Ports deal, etc.. But Obama’s weak and refuses to win.
He, like you, is a Surrendercrat who thinks we’ll be just dandy if we bring the troops home. No more deaths! Except for the occasional massive attack on American soil because Al Qaeda and the Taliban have been able to reorganize, establish a base of operations, and successfully boost their numbers without interference. But we’re good besides that.
amerpundit on October 8, 2009 at 6:15 PM
Hey AP if I wire ya $5 will ya ban mr buttcrack gel?
brianpierre on October 8, 2009 at 6:15 PM
Michelle Malkin, Ann Coulter and Laura Ingraham.
Johan Klaus on October 8, 2009 at 6:16 PM
Those men were husbands, son and fathers of small children. They were shot, burned and chopped apart with shovels before being hung from a bridge which is the last thing their loved ones saw of them.
I have never asked for a ban before but you would be the first. You need to leave this site now, I mean right now.
Bishop on October 8, 2009 at 6:16 PM
When are the women of this country going to STEP UP and tell this administration and ANY ADMINISTRATION that we will not stand for America snivilling to ANY COUNTRY that does not recognize women as human beings, and equal beings!
No the Taliban is NOT ok and never will be until the day they stop KILLING women for being alive! This double standard as it regards, Iraq, Iran, and Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia is not acceptable. They are midevil throwbacks that do not deserve ANY sort of equal footing with us. And do not think they are going to introduce their evil religion here and try to start pushing that crap like you have been.
Stand up women. We cannot leave this up to men to do because they don’t understand, or care.
patriotparty1 on October 8, 2009 at 6:17 PM
When I am smarter then the teacher we are in such deep sh!t it’s not even funny.
Cindy Munford on October 8, 2009 at 6:17 PM
I’m as bothered by this as any conservative is. All attempts should be made to politically pressure Obama to pull out of Afghanistan.
mr_B on October 8, 2009 at 6:17 PM
Turn your anger into action. Go to anysoldier.com. Read a story. Send a package or heartfelt thank you note.
publiuspen on October 8, 2009 at 6:13 PM
THANK YOU! Anysoldier.com is a GREAT place. I buy my soldiers calling cards to call home to their loved ones from there. I am NOT related to anyone who is serving or has served. I just want to thank our brave men and woman!
http://www.soldiersangels.org
Gob on October 8, 2009 at 6:18 PM
Leave now, azzhole.
Bishop on October 8, 2009 at 6:18 PM
You’re aware that many of these contractors were themselves in the military at one point? And, just to be clear, you’re advocating the murder of American citizens because they make a profit in helping their country win a war. Fantastic.
You can also check out my links where DKos diarists compared American soldiers — yes, soldiers — to terrorists, murderers, called them idiots, etc.. I’m sure you’ll find a way to excuse your fellow Surrendercrats for that, too.
You’re a piece of scum unworthy of attaching yourself to the boots of our fighting men and women.
amerpundit on October 8, 2009 at 6:18 PM
I think when he saw him bow to the Saudi king we got a taste of his true face.
nyx on October 8, 2009 at 6:18 PM
I mean to say that
“When we saw him bow to the Saudi King we got a taste of his true face”
nyx on October 8, 2009 at 6:19 PM
I agree. This man is destroying the US from within and allowing others to destroy it from outside.
This horrid horrid man has got to be stopped. We have to keep the tea parties going and we have to work so that there is no support for Obama in Congress after the next election.
ORconservative on October 8, 2009 at 6:19 PM
I don’t care what they were. Nazis and Vietcong and even terrorists are husbands, sons, and fathers too.
mr_B on October 8, 2009 at 6:19 PM
I would. But not for President Obama. You’re sure an ignorant f*ck, aren’t you?
I could barely even comment on this in the headline thread I was so pissed off/ at a completely loss of words to describe this move. The closest thing I can think of is insanity, but I don’t know if that properly conveys the anger I feel at our guys dying while President Obama denies them the resources they need to accomplish the mission he signed off on 6 months ago.
BadgerHawk on October 8, 2009 at 6:19 PM
And there is a difference between those men and the people running those companies. Too bad you can’t make the distinction. Screw you and f@ckwad Markos.
ICBM on October 8, 2009 at 6:19 PM
At the store today I saw a black-draped figured walking toward me and thought it was a short Muslim woman in a burqa, but then noticed a long plastic SCYTHE in the figure’s hand… and laughed… it was only a kid trying on a Halloween costume as the Grim Reaper.
But it will be the Grim Reaper in a burqa, if Obama gets his witless way.
profitsbeard on October 8, 2009 at 6:21 PM
So now our fellow American citizens, many of them former members of the military themselves, are comparable to Nazis because they work alongside our military in fighting a war. Wonderful.
Allah? Can we get a ban hammer in here?
amerpundit on October 8, 2009 at 6:21 PM
Obama . . . the epitome of stupidity.
rplat on October 8, 2009 at 6:21 PM
I’m not “advocating” their murder so much as I’m taking the stance that they got what was coming to them.
mr_B on October 8, 2009 at 6:22 PM
The ever incompetent Wuss-in-Chief.
jdkchem on October 8, 2009 at 6:22 PM
Those contractors were delivering food to Fallujah, you jackazz, and the fact that you would equate American civilians with Nazis, VC and terrorists is despicable. No wonder this country is in such straights; w have liberal human garbage walking our streets.
Bishop on October 8, 2009 at 6:22 PM
Remember that if and when your head is about to be separated from your shoulders.
fourdeucer on October 8, 2009 at 6:23 PM
I disagree with you 1000%. Obama campaigned on taking the fight to the war in Afghanistan. He & the Liberals chastised Bush saying the “real war is in Afghanistan”. This was the policy that supposedly made Obama look tough on the war on terror.
His waffling on this matter just proves that Obama has been a facade all along. He is a phony, and never had any intention of taking a muscular stance on fighting our enemies.
portlandon on October 8, 2009 at 6:24 PM
They’re still drawing a profit and voluntarily working for those companies. They’re complicit in this contemptible profiteering that drives so many of our unnecessary military engagements.
mr_B on October 8, 2009 at 6:24 PM
mr-b or whoever you are: our little community of Kenbridge Va (pop 1,200) saw a flag draped casket come home from Afghanistan last week.
let that boy die in vain while you figure out a way out of Afghanistan. and by all means, act like your dear leader, Hussein Obama, & drag out your decision by weeks, perhaps even months so more of America’s patriots can die.
you sir, are no patriot.
kelley in virginia on October 8, 2009 at 6:24 PM
Not surprising. You’re worse than an ignorant f*ck. Those guys were delivering food when they were mutilated.
You deserve the ban hammer, and a solid kick to the face.
BadgerHawk on October 8, 2009 at 6:24 PM
F*ck you and the horse you rode in on. I believe you call her your spouse.
These were employees, many of them former soldiers, who made a profit in a war that was already being fought by providing services the government required. They were handing out food to Iraqis at the time. And you think that’s grounds for their brutal murder? You immoral scumbag.
amerpundit on October 8, 2009 at 6:24 PM
Yes your precedent Obama is willing to sacrifice our soldiers lives for a political cause. He wants to keep you satisfied by not sending any more troops to Afghanistan, yet he knows we need to have a strong presence there. The end result is death and failure for the United States military and for America’s defense. If you want to call that a political wedge issue, then so be it. Obamas war. Every soldiers death in Afghanistan since McChrystal asked for more troops is on his hands. Either give them the support they need or get our guys out!
canditaylor68 on October 8, 2009 at 6:24 PM
If you share the “sentiments”, then at least have the courage to use the words.
They were just little Eichmans, right?
rw on October 8, 2009 at 6:24 PM
MR. B is a CJ Little Green Jello Molds antagonist.
I demand Ban Hammer.
portlandon on October 8, 2009 at 6:25 PM
mr-B: a terrorist is a terrorist. he receives no quarter.
kelley in virginia on October 8, 2009 at 6:25 PM
If only your father had done the same.
jdkchem on October 8, 2009 at 6:26 PM
American civilians lining their pockets at my expense and at the expense of every American soldier fighting and dying for their profit.
I don’t care what he said or even really believed when he said it. I want the war in Afghanistan to end, period. This goes beyond simple politics.
mr_B on October 8, 2009 at 6:27 PM
You have absolutely no comprehension of the end game of the enemy we are fighting.
You will after Obama surrenders and they start showing up in your neighborhood, at your mall, at your corner supermarket, blowing themselves up along with your sorry @ss.
Right behind the troops you want so badly to come home, will be the terrorists, and surrender monkeys like you will be their favorite target. They fear brute force, they prey on weaklings.
You and Hussein make a big fat sweet target for them.
fogw on October 8, 2009 at 6:27 PM
No wonder the French don’t like Pinnochio he surrenders quicker than even they do.
he cannot afford to alienate his lefty friends until he pulls the healthcare wool over our eyes.
He is holding the lives of our sons and daughters hostage to his socialized healthscare plan.
Then he will all but surrender just leaving enough troops for us to get our asses kicked and lose more than necesary young patriots.
this SOB does not deserve the job waxing the presidential limo.
he said he would side with Muslims and some did not believe him.
dhunter on October 8, 2009 at 6:28 PM
Surrender at all costs! Regardless of the consequences! Let’s have all the Americans making a profit through government contracts brutally murdered and hung from bridges! And then we can all sit around and sing Kumbaya with the Taliban.
/
amerpundit on October 8, 2009 at 6:28 PM
Make sure your Turban looks good. Turban fittings, 5 p.m. daily at your local community center.
Travis1 on October 8, 2009 at 6:29 PM
and i guess, mr. b., that you think is perfectly ok for our soldiers to die because they are all volunteers?
don’t ban this guy, allah & ed. those of us at Hot Air need to see what our great country harbors & protects. and we need to remember the oath of our soldiers to “defend the Constitution from all enemies, both foreign & domestic”.
if mr. b. doesn’t mind our soldiers dying, then i’d say he is an enemy. a domestic one.
kelley in virginia on October 8, 2009 at 6:29 PM
mr buttcrack left over is a good reason everyone here should have to have an email address that we could all access
brianpierre on October 8, 2009 at 6:29 PM
OMG what does this moron think is the pap we won’t accept? That Mrs. Messiah is really of “slave blood”. This Chi-town creep is just too much – I keep thinking he’s “bottom of the barrel” – but then he goes way below that……….
Cinday Blackburn on October 8, 2009 at 6:29 PM
I don’t want Barack Obama to delay his decision another day. I want him to order the immediate withdrawal of all active military forces from Afghanistan and to declare that the war is over.
“Get our guys out” has been my position all along. I don’t want him to continue waffling over this any more than you do.
mr_B on October 8, 2009 at 6:30 PM
You’re far too kind.
jdkchem on October 8, 2009 at 6:30 PM
Old and new White House and Euro House spin: Islam not really an enemy, has role in the West’s future.
The above two are not nearly as far apart as many like to pretend.
MB4 on October 8, 2009 at 6:30 PM
Obama sold out the Czechs and Poles to suck up to the Russians. he’s selling out the Iranian human rights activists and Afghans to suck up to the Iranians. He’s selling out Honduras (which is still holding fast) to suck up to Chavez. He’s selling out Israel (which is still holding fast) to suck up to the Palestinianss.
Has he stabbed Taiwan or South Korea in the back yet? It’s only a matter of time.
Wethal on October 8, 2009 at 6:31 PM
You could add:
*gulp*
President H. Clinton
Yeah, its getting to that point…
turfmann on October 8, 2009 at 6:31 PM
Well, he said he’d stand with his Muslim brothers. Perhaps this is his stand. God help us all! It is appalling to see him falter this way, when so many women will suffer for it.
capejasmine on October 8, 2009 at 6:31 PM
mr. b. we have veterans & patriots down here in redneck land. come visit.
kelley in virginia on October 8, 2009 at 6:31 PM
Explain to me why you want the afghanistan war to end.
Preferably in a way that doesn’t denigrate US Servicemen.
portlandon on October 8, 2009 at 6:31 PM
It’s hard to remember what a stoopid azz-clown like Mr_B is when he farts out illogical crap here but then I take a deep breath and realize he is a LIB.
They never make sense.
They are mentally ill.
They are ALWAYS the polar opposite of what they claim to be.
They can NEVER win the argument or break the opposing argument.
Balls of crap, they are. You’re a cowardly wuss Mr_B and prolly wear tampons!
Gob on October 8, 2009 at 6:31 PM
Because that will keep our country safe. And then Skittle-Pooping unicorns will drop hundred dollar bills from Santa’s sleigh!
amerpundit on October 8, 2009 at 6:31 PM
That barrel has no bottom.
jdkchem on October 8, 2009 at 6:32 PM
Your position is bent over, legs spread, presenting yourself to the enemy.
fogw on October 8, 2009 at 6:32 PM
I’m sure the women of Afghanistan will think of you… as they are shot in the back of the head for daring to show their faces in public.
profitsbeard on October 8, 2009 at 6:32 PM
Of course, you only know about their “end game” what you heard from Bush Administration press releases, which you accept as gospel.
mr_B on October 8, 2009 at 6:33 PM
Apparently, some people believe that if we simply leave Afghanistan the war there will end. Yes.
Once gone, all of the parties involved will sit around a campfire and sing Kumbaya.
The worst part is this person’s vote is equal to mine.
Swell.
SteveMG on October 8, 2009 at 6:33 PM
Apparently so has “Kill and mutilate Americans to achieve that end”.
You’re a disgrace.
BadgerHawk on October 8, 2009 at 6:33 PM
but mr. b., the war isn’t over. you are a domestic terrorist, just by your comments here alone. so the war on terror is not over.
kelley in virginia on October 8, 2009 at 6:33 PM
So, Mr. Genius, what do we do when the terrorists show up here?
Juno77 on October 8, 2009 at 6:33 PM
By the way, American soldiers get paid to fight as well. We have an all-volunteer force, so no one is forced to join. But they do get paid to fight. Which I have no problem with, but Mr. Bullcrap seems to think people who voluntary go fight for money should be brutally murdered.
amerpundit on October 8, 2009 at 6:33 PM
Then you must have shiite your panties when Clinton hired Halliburton for work in Kosovo after he bombed them, yet another country on the other side of the world that wasn’t at threat to the U.S.
You have a low threshold for empathy and compassion; those men murdered in Fallujah were hired by the U.S government, they didn’t start the war nor did they vote for military action. They couldn’t be there without the federal government allowing them to be there, and most demorats voted for military action in Iraq.
You are garbage, your party is garbage, and we both know that you wouldn’t have the courage to face the families of those dead men and say what you are saying here.
Bishop on October 8, 2009 at 6:34 PM
mr_B on October 8, 2009 at 6:30 PM
So, Mr. Genius, what do we do when the terrorists show up here?
Juno77 on October 8, 2009 at 6:34 PM
You are right. You could even add:
President Edwards
It’s bordering on spooky & conspiritorial just how terrible President Obama is on fighting terror and defending democracy. He defends the dictator in Honduras for God’s sake.
portlandon on October 8, 2009 at 6:34 PM
See, if we’re not there the Taliban and AQ will stop fighting those who don’t want to be ruled by them.
Pakistan will turn into a peaceful Arcadia.
Yes. The “war” will stop once we’re gone.
Man…
SteveMG on October 8, 2009 at 6:35 PM
mr b: how many active duty military soldiers do you know? my brother recently ret’d from 20 yrs in the Army. he knows alot about that part of the world. i think he would tell you that the “end game” aint pretty.
do other active duty military people tell you differently?
kelley in virginia on October 8, 2009 at 6:35 PM
Sorry, I’m not Code Pink and my concern is not the women of Afghanistan. I want the era of America being the world’s sugar daddy to end and a good start is getting out of Afghanistan.
mr_B on October 8, 2009 at 6:35 PM
I think I see a double resignation looming: Generals Petraeus and McChrystal.
What fools did Obama drones are!
cubachi on October 8, 2009 at 6:35 PM
Mr. Bullcrap knows better than the military, you see. He’s attended Code Pink rallies and donated to Dennis Kucinich, so that makes him an expert in Middle Eastern affairs.
amerpundit on October 8, 2009 at 6:36 PM
No, you just want the government to be your sugar daddy. Makes total sense
deidre on October 8, 2009 at 6:37 PM
mr b: ok, you don’t care about the women of Afghanistan. what exactly do you think will happen to the men of Afghanistan when western forces leave there?
what do you really believe will happen there?
kelley in virginia on October 8, 2009 at 6:37 PM
These Obama drones that voted for this clown in the White House.
Obama hates the military.
cubachi on October 8, 2009 at 6:38 PM
Wrong again sissy.
You’ll find out their end game the hard way. Then you’ll sit there wimpering in the corner crying “Someone come and help me, I’m so scared, are there any soldiers around to rescue me.”
If there are any, expect a rifle butt to the groin, if they know who you are.
fogw on October 8, 2009 at 6:38 PM
There is not a whole lot of difference between the Saudi Royal House and the Taliban. mainly just money. Actually members of the Saudi Royal House probably had a whole lot more to do with financing 9/11 than the Taliban did. Let’s kill all of the Saudi Royal House. It would be a lot easier than tracking down all the Taliban and a whole lot more profitable.
MB4 on October 8, 2009 at 6:38 PM
What’s your concern? We won’t have enough money to pay your welfare entitlements or provide you with socialized health care?
amerpundit on October 8, 2009 at 6:39 PM
What a difference a few months make…
… all the way up to when Obama actually has to make a decision and stand by it.
But given his track record, I believe quite a number of people are going to be killed that shouldn’t have before it is all over, due to this child’s naivete …
Seven Percent Solution on October 8, 2009 at 6:39 PM
How is that going to happen? Are they all gonna hop on a little boat and paddle on over here? Or are we going to ship over a couple thousand boxes of green cards and visas so they can enter the country?
mr_B on October 8, 2009 at 6:39 PM
I feel terrible for our troops, who are dying for NOTHING. more proof, if any was needed, that democrats hate this country…and especially those that defend it…and have no problem sacrificing them.
glad I don’t live in NYC or DC…hope the libs get the FULL EFFECT of their policies…
and if we are attacked, as long as its a blue area, I will not support any form of retaliation…its our fault anyway….
right4life on October 8, 2009 at 6:39 PM
We’ve already tried that strategy – do you remember September 11, 2001?
The rest of us do, They were at war with us before we were at war with them.
So, again Mr. Genius, what do we do when they show up here with Nuclear weapons?
Juno77 on October 8, 2009 at 6:40 PM
Worth repeating. How about an answer mr_B??????
Knucklehead on October 8, 2009 at 6:40 PM
Ron Paulite. Dear Lord somebody grab the Lysol.
portlandon on October 8, 2009 at 6:40 PM
b seems to be a paid blogger who has no other intent but to cause the chaos he has… and AP has no intent of shutting him down in spite of potential damage he could cause to people here who have, are or will serve this country out of love. and AP the sadist thing wears thin
brianpierre on October 8, 2009 at 6:40 PM
THEN I HAVE NEWS FOR YOU—Oct 5–The White House said Monday that President Barack Obama is not considering a strategy for Afghanistan that would withdraw U.S. troops from the eroding war there.
Obama is not leaving mr_B-why do you continue to support him?
canditaylor68 on October 8, 2009 at 6:41 PM
we’ve had 1,400 years of the muslim ‘end game’…and we don’t need any press releases to know what they are all about….just as Charles Martel knew…
right4life on October 8, 2009 at 6:41 PM
http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/PhotoPopup.aspx?id=506213
Better things to do like:
Close Guantanmo
Get the Olympics for Chitown
Get out of Iraq
Stop the Iranians
Pass a takeover of our Healthscare
Too busy to fight the war that was “the real war the one we cannot lose” or to “follow Bin laden to the gates of hell”
Makin Jiminy Carter look good can we get gas line Jiminy back?
dhunter on October 8, 2009 at 6:41 PM
He doesn’t care.
He doesn’t care if they’re killed or if AQ consolidates power and uses Afghanistan again as a base.
He wants to bury his head in the sand and wish it away.
I wanted to do that too. I was about 9 at the time.
I grew up.
SteveMG on October 8, 2009 at 6:41 PM
Ignore mr_B
Never forget this man was for the sexualization of 13 year old girls.
Ignore mr_B,
He’s a troll
nyx on October 8, 2009 at 6:41 PM
It’s amazing that you don’t even blink at the proposition of spending trillions of dollars to go around spreading “democracy” to “oppressed” peoples that don’t even want it, yet in typical conservative fashion you’re disgusted at the idea of American citizens receiving a helping hand from their government in the form of welfare or universal healthcare.
mr_B on October 8, 2009 at 6:42 PM
as long as its a blue area, give em welfare, and housing!!!
let the libs get the results of their policies and beliefs…boom.
right4life on October 8, 2009 at 6:42 PM
Sorry, no thanks.
He deserves a good pounding.
fogw on October 8, 2009 at 6:43 PM
He’s a troll that needs a banhammer real fast. Until this time, let’s ignore him and let him wallow in his own filth.
nyx on October 8, 2009 at 6:43 PM
Geraghty, NRO
Wethal on October 8, 2009 at 6:43 PM
mr b: how did the 9/11 attackers get ahold of those airplanes? with a green card & a paddle? they plot, they plan, they train, they get money from Saudi Arabia, Iran.
its one thing for you to not catch on, but this is all documented. even the 9/11 commission said so & there were Dems on that.
kelley in virginia on October 8, 2009 at 6:43 PM
I speak for millions of progressives when I say that if Obama has not taken steps to end the war in Afghanistan by the time the 2012 elections are upon us, he won’t receive my vote.
mr_B on October 8, 2009 at 6:44 PM
It’s amazing that I’d be willing to spend hundreds of billion of dollars to remove threats to US national security and stop genocides, yet flinch at government acting as a nanny by spending my tax dollars to pay for people who choose not to work when they can.
Yes, amazing.
amerpundit on October 8, 2009 at 6:44 PM
but if we’re not going to fight TOTAL WAR, like we did in WWII, which is the ONLY way to transform a society…in other words, you have to kill a LOT of people…otherwise I’m afraid our sacrifices will be in vain…
and clearly we are not prepared to fight like we did in WWII…
right4life on October 8, 2009 at 6:45 PM
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