New White House spin: Taliban not really an enemy, has role in Afghanistan’s future

posted at 5:14 pm on October 8, 2009 by Allahpundit

No foolin’. They’re looking for any way they can to avoid giving McChrystal the troops he says he needs to secure the country, so they’ve come up with a way out. If the people we’ve been fighting for eight years aren’t the enemy, then the country no longer needs to be secured from them, does it?

If you thought troop morale was low now, wait.

Though aides stress that the president’s final decision on any changes is still at least two weeks away, the emerging thinking suggests that he would be very unlikely to favor a large military increase of the kind being advocated by the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan, Gen. Stanley McChrystal…

Obama’s developing strategy on the Taliban will “not tolerate their return to power,” the senior official said in an interview with The Associated Press. But the U.S. would fight only to keep the Taliban from retaking control of Afghanistan’s central government — something it is now far from being capable of — and from giving renewed sanctuary in Afghanistan to al-Qaida, the official said…

Bowing to the reality that the Taliban is too ingrained in Afghanistan’s culture to be entirely defeated, the administration is prepared, as it has been for some time, to accept some Taliban role in parts of Afghanistan, the official said. That could mean paving the way for Taliban members willing to renounce violence to participate in a central government — though there has been little receptiveness to this among the Taliban. It might even mean ceding some regions of the country to the Taliban

Obama kept returning to one question for his advisers: Who is our adversary, the official said.

In other words, rather than eat crap by forthrightly admitting he’s prepared to abandon huge swaths of the country to Islamist fascists rather than invest another 40,000 troops, he’s going to create an artificial distinction between the Taliban and Al Qaeda to let him save face by claiming he’s focused on “the real enemy.” Much like how he was focused during the campaign on “the good war” in Afghanistan rather than “the bad war” in Iraq. I wonder how long it’ll be before he decides that not everyone who’s in Al Qaeda is an enemy either — or, better yet, that AQ’s been “substantially defeated” or something, which has been the unstated thrust of all those WH-leaked pieces in the press lately about how weak Bin Laden’s gang has become. Why, I’ll bet in a year or so we’ll be told that they’re so weak that we can start pulling out of Afghanistan altogether. Things sure have improved over there since Bush was president, huh?

How this squares with what Bob Gates said just days ago about the colossal danger of giving the Taliban a propaganda victory, I have no idea. Sounds like Hillary isn’t a big fan either: According to Fox News, “A State Department spokesman said Thursday that Clinton believes the Taliban and Al Qaeda are both a threat and the U.S. is fighting the whole idea of killing in the name of religious extremism.” More from the Times, which was first out of the gate this morning with quotes from unnamed senior officials straining to distinguish AQ from our new patriotic partners in peace in Afghanistan:

Some analysts say that the Taliban and Al Qaeda have actually grown closer since the first American bombs fell on the Shomali Plain north of Kabul eight years ago Tuesday.

“The kind of separation that existed between the Taliban and Al Qaeda in 2001 really doesn’t exist anymore,” said Anthony H. Cordesman, a scholar at the Center for Strategic and International Studies who has advised General McChrystal. “You have much more ideological elements in the Taliban. In the east, they’re really mixed in with Al Qaeda.”

Frances Fragos Townsend, who was President George W. Bush’s homeland security adviser, said the two groups remained linked.

“It’s a dangerous argument to assume that the Taliban won’t revert to where they were pre-9/11 and provide Al Qaeda sanctuary,” she said. Referring to General McChrystal, she added, “If you don’t give him the troops he asked for and continue with the Predator strikes, you can kill them one at a time, but you’re not going to drain the swamp.”

A thought experiment: What if the Taliban’s leadership “promises” not to shelter Al Qaeda and in return we pull back to some sort of wide perimeter around Kabul, only to find a few months later that AQ is indeed returning to Taliban-controlled territory? What’s our move then? Give McChrystal the troops he asked for initially and try to push the Taliban out of land we’d held before? Wouldn’t that require even more troops? Beyond that, if the U.S. military cedes areas of Afghanistan to the Taliban instead of pushing them out of the country to whatever extent possible, doesn’t that practically guarantee a civil war between the Taliban and Afghan troops loyal to Kabul after we leave? At best, you’d end up with a Lebanon-type situation where the Taliban, a la Hezbollah, dominates the country but allows the central government to exist to handle state business while it plots jihad in its own secure areas. At worst, you’d end up with them launching an offensive against Kabul from their territorial bases to try to retake the capital.

My sense is that Obama’s treating this as a sort of reprise of what happened in Anbar, where the U.S. made a deal with the local insurgents that they could police their own areas and suddenly attacks dropped off to practically nothing. The one problem with that analogy: Aside from AQI and a few other outfits, most of the Sunni insurgency in Iraq was a nationalist movement, not a religious one. That’s what the White House wants you to believe about the Taliban too, but it ain’t so. So freakishly fanatic is the Taliban leadership that Bin Laden’s actually sworn religious allegiance to Mullah Omar, not the other way around. If you read nothing else that this site has linked today, read Bill Roggio’s absolute total destruction of the artificial AQ/Taliban distinction that Obama’s trying to draw. AQ is nothing more than “the tip of the jihadist spear.”

It is remarkable that anyone would argue that a Taliban safe haven in Afghanistan would not necessarily lead to an al Qaeda safe haven there given that the two currently enjoy the same safe havens in Northern Pakistan. After the two jointly established the Islamic Emirate of Waziristan in 2006, for example, it should have become painfully obvious that they had not given up on their combined territorial ambitions.

Just as in pre-9/11 Afghanistan, these safe havens are home to broad cooperation between the Taliban and al Qaeda. The Taliban hosts camps for al Qaeda’s paramilitary army, as well as al Qaeda’s external network – that is, those terrorists responsible for striking the West. By some estimates there are more than 150 training camps, of various sizes and configurations, in the tribal areas in Northwestern Pakistan.

Senior al Qaeda leaders are routinely killed at Taliban safe houses, training camps, and compounds during U.S. airstrikes. Numerous Taliban leaders, including the Haqqanis (a father and son team who are based both in eastern Afghanistan and in Pakistan’s tribal areas, as discussed below), Hakeemullah Mehsud, Mullah Nazir, Hafiz Gul Bahadar, Omar Khalid, Mullah Fazlullah, and Faqir Mohammed host al Qaeda’s leaders and foot soldiers. These Taliban commanders conduct cross-border operations in Afghanistan, and aid al Qaeda in doing so as well.

That’s a tiny portion of the most comprehensive answer to the White House spin that you’re likely to find in the blogosphere. Don’t miss it. I leave you with a clip, also via Roggio, from of all places Al Jazeera, which is also under the impression that AQ’s become an integral part of the Taliban’s machinery. But then, what would Al Jazeera know about jihadists?

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HAWK.. WE LOVE YOU! KEEP YOUR HEAD DOWN … package on the way!!!

upinak on October 8, 2009 at 5:15 PM

IMPEACH IN 2011!!!

lavell12 on October 8, 2009 at 5:15 PM

This is the smartest President evah??

Guess, to Obama, the Taliban are just misunderstood community organizers.

coldwarrior on October 8, 2009 at 5:16 PM

Surrender.

ddrintn on October 8, 2009 at 5:17 PM

This is a disgrace to every servicemen, their families, and those who have lost their lives fighting the Taliban & Al Queda.

Damn you to hell Obama.

portlandon on October 8, 2009 at 5:17 PM

This is SMART POWER baby.

johnnybgood on October 8, 2009 at 5:18 PM

Who is advising this bunch? Louis Farakkan? dave742? spathi? Maximum Confessor? The voices in their heads?
Oy Vey.

kingsjester on October 8, 2009 at 5:19 PM

*head explodes*

Daemonocracy on October 8, 2009 at 5:19 PM

He pulls out, the Taliban will take over Afghanistan, then overthrow the government in Pakistan, take the nukes and then buh-bye New York.

Skywise on October 8, 2009 at 5:19 PM

As I said in my earlier post on this topic, we are in dire peril with these people in charge. They have lost what little minds they had.

dogsoldier on October 8, 2009 at 5:19 PM

OMFGWTHBBQ!!!

BrideOfRove on October 8, 2009 at 5:20 PM

Okay, who gets the job of telling my 2 boys that these are now the marching orders for them? One is due in Afghanistan this week and the other is somewhere over there in the desert. Now the 3rd is back here in Tulsa after being blown up in Iraq… I’m sure not telling him.

brianpierre on October 8, 2009 at 5:20 PM

This is the smartest President evah??

coldwarrior on October 8, 2009 at 5:16 PM

No, he got elected by the dumbest electorate evah. With a huge assist from the “objectve” media.

Del Dolemonte on October 8, 2009 at 5:20 PM

a political excuse as war strategy, good thing we dodged a bullet on the McCain guy.

rob verdi on October 8, 2009 at 5:21 PM

World turned upside down.

Juno77 on October 8, 2009 at 5:21 PM

Taliban not really an enemy

Tell it to the survivors of COP Keating.

Fletch54 on October 8, 2009 at 5:21 PM

Actually, this is good news. Not only has Obama decided that conservatives are not the enemy anymore, he’s also going to give us a role in Afghanistan’s future! Hooray!

/oh. wait. he’s talking about the other Taliban, isn’t he…

TheQuestion on October 8, 2009 at 5:21 PM

This White House is an enemy of America. That’s the whole story.

progressoverpeace on October 8, 2009 at 5:22 PM

Bowing to the reality that the Taliban is too ingrained in Afghanistan’s culture to be entirely defeated, the administration is prepared, as it has been for some time, to accept some Taliban role in parts of Afghanistan, the official said.

Because that worked out so well in the Tribal Areas of Pakistan, right?

pseudonominus on October 8, 2009 at 5:22 PM

Peace for our time.

This is beyond despicable.

I wish only the worst for this asswipe.

MadisonConservative on October 8, 2009 at 5:23 PM

Who is our adversary, the official said.

White, Anglo-Saxon, Protestants; with incomes between $25,000 and $300,00. Found in large numbers between the Pacific and Atlantic Oceans, covering the area from Mexico northwards to the Canadian border.

BobMbx on October 8, 2009 at 5:23 PM

Can anyone think of one foreign policy decision he has made that was half-way rational or even partly in America’s interests? What is he trying to do? Who is pulling his strings?

johnnybgood on October 8, 2009 at 5:23 PM

And allah, it’s Tah-lee-bahn. You should pronounce the names of friends of The Precedent correctly. And bow to them when they’re in town.

progressoverpeace on October 8, 2009 at 5:23 PM

President Pantload. Yet another example of Ogabe refusing to take a stand and voting present; he doesn’t want to make a decision either way so he chooses to punt. What a disgrace.

Bishop on October 8, 2009 at 5:23 PM

Well, well. So these woman-whupp’n, barber-shoot’n freaks are a future dynamic in Afghanistan?

How tolerant and broad-minded of Teh One.

Actually, I shouldn’t be surprised. Just look over the marxist and socialist freaks that slithered into the White House in his wake.

Diversity uber alles? Somehow, I don’t think so. I’ve noticed our New Overlords don’t seem really interested in ‘contrary’ opinions.

Oh, and neither is the Taliban.

Fancy that.

CPT. Charles on October 8, 2009 at 5:24 PM

Help me, is it over in Af/Pack? Are leaving? What does this mean.

Oil Can on October 8, 2009 at 5:24 PM

My concern here is that as a practical matter the Afghanis will have fought off two superpowers, and that will resonate with the elements that we do not wish to resonate with. It will inspire where there is currently only a long string of defeats to look upon. And with that, the scene will shift to Pakistan.

It was, in many ways, the American Revolution that inspired the French–both practical, in the sense that the Ancien Regime became bankrupt, and philosophically, in that men became inspired to attempt to change the nation.

Along those same lines, what occurs in Afghanistan will affect those in Pakistan. Why would the thinking not go “If those hill tribesmen can fight off both the USSR and the USA, why cannot we take care of our own nation and India?” They will have hope for change, and may choose to act upon it. As Napoleon said, moral is to the material as three is to one.

Horatius on October 8, 2009 at 5:25 PM

Amateur hour just raised its ugly head again.

JRDFLA on October 8, 2009 at 5:25 PM

I guess we’re going to negotiate with the moderate Taliban.

Daggett on October 8, 2009 at 5:25 PM

Speechless. My son graduates from college in May and is ROTC Army and he has to put up with this jerk as his Commander in Chief.

At this rate, it won’t be long until J Crew will start selling children’s burkas.

Beaglemom on October 8, 2009 at 5:25 PM

And …… Al Qaeda didn’t attack us on 9/11, American Airlines did. The terrorists just happened to be passengers who wanted a tour of the cockpit.

Can we call Hussein a Muslim yet?

A Big-Eared Lying Muslim?

fogw on October 8, 2009 at 5:26 PM

We’re going to declare victory by relabeling the enemy as our friend and then claim that our friend controls the country.

I’d express how I really feel about this, but I’d probably end up getting banned.

amerpundit on October 8, 2009 at 5:26 PM

Would someone please explain to me how this is different than if the enemy were making the decisions in the White House?

My head is spinning.

turfmann on October 8, 2009 at 5:26 PM

War of Necessity…?
Is this a trial balloon for the weasel in the WH?

d1carter on October 8, 2009 at 5:27 PM

Okay, who gets the job of telling my 2 boys that these are now the marching orders for them? One is due in Afghanistan this week and the other is somewhere over there in the desert. Now the 3rd is back here in Tulsa after being blown up in Iraq… I’m sure not telling him.

brianpierre on October 8, 2009 at 5:20 PM

Salute those young men for me. And tell them thank you.

jimmy2shoes on October 8, 2009 at 5:27 PM

He pulls out, the Taliban will take over Afghanistan, then overthrow the government in Pakistan, take the nukes and then buh-bye New York.

Skywise on October 8, 2009 at 5:19 PM

The argument could be made that this could be a net positive.

BobMbx on October 8, 2009 at 5:27 PM

Wasn’t their whole argument against Iraq and the Bush Doctrine that we were forcing erstwhile moderates into the arms of radicals and making friends of former enemies? Now proven allies such as AQ and the Taliban are magically separate entities?

Any port in a perfect storm of indecision, I guess.

spmat on October 8, 2009 at 5:27 PM

I’m a Vietnam vet and I remember my second tour in 69-70. That tour was different because the president had said that we were pulling out and turning the war over to the Vietnamese.

From that point on, most felt that they didn’t want to be the last American to die in Vietnam. This is deja vu all over again.

If we’re not going to fight, bring our troops home immediately.

Special Forces Grunt on October 8, 2009 at 5:28 PM

I’m fuming. I can’t believe this White House would capitulate to those who have killed American G.I.’s. This is a disgraceful move.

Matticus Finch on October 8, 2009 at 5:28 PM

“Hey, hey, BHO, how much freedom did you kill so fo?”

amerpundit on October 8, 2009 at 5:28 PM

Remember when “Taliban” was the Left’s all-purpose epithet and they had an overwhelming concern about the fate of Afghani women?

Yeah, that was pre-Bush.

obladioblada on October 8, 2009 at 5:29 PM

Wow and what are the Human Rights and Women’s groups going to say if we cede control back to the Taliban? The Taliban, the most backward, misogynist, torturers in all of the world right now, w/the exception of AQ, w/whom there is not a distinction whatsoever. Go get ‘em Human Rights Watch and NOW! That libtard president of yours is “not for torture”, remember?

JAM on October 8, 2009 at 5:29 PM

Turd-in-Chief, welcoming another attack.

Vashta.Nerada on October 8, 2009 at 5:29 PM

Would someone please explain to me how this is different than if the enemy were making the decisions in the White House?
My head is spinning.
turfmann on October 8, 2009 at 5:26 PM

The SCM wouldn’t be working overtime to defend him. /sarc

Juno77 on October 8, 2009 at 5:30 PM

Barack Surrender Obama

Mmm mmm mmm

Now, back to taking over the economy…

petefrt on October 8, 2009 at 5:30 PM

brianpierre on October 8, 2009 at 5:20 PM

I feel physically ill right now hearing that. God help us all.

spmat on October 8, 2009 at 5:30 PM

brianpierre on October 8, 2009 at 5:20 PM

May God Bless you and your family for their service. I wish they had a CIC they could legitimately respect. Instead, we are stuck with this girly man who kissed the ring of the Saudi Prince and his band of incompetant Bureaucrats.

kingsjester on October 8, 2009 at 5:30 PM

I just don’t know what else to say anymore and I’m afraid I won’t have a country to come home to after my vacation.

Knucklehead on October 8, 2009 at 5:30 PM

All of those campaign speeches by Obama about “changing the battlefield from Iraq to Afghanistan”, all of those promises about destroying the terrorists, all of those hardline denunciations of the Taliban and AQ.

Poof. Gone.

AP really nailed it about a year ago: The left’s support for the war in Afghanistan was a complete ruse. They never meant it.

No. They. Didn’t.

SteveMG on October 8, 2009 at 5:30 PM

And allah, it’s Tah-lee-bahn. You should pronounce the names of friends of The Precedent correctly. And bow to them when they’re in town.

progressoverpeace on October 8, 2009 at 5:23 PM

Yeah, like how you can say Barack HUSSEIN(sp)Obama since all the little brown shirts SANG it—so its mmmm…mmm…mmm…TOHtally good.

seejanemom on October 8, 2009 at 5:31 PM

I have the solution !!!! Fire up Air Force One and Obama you go over there and walk up to the enemy and talk it over. Leave the Secret Service men on the plane. You can handle this. Come on, Barack, you can do it….. Problem solved. Our problem.

suzyk on October 8, 2009 at 5:31 PM

and from giving renewed sanctuary in Afghanistan to al-Qaida, the official said…

It might even mean ceding some regions of the country to the Taliban…

I must be missing the obvious rational thought to this strategy. Oh, wait. This is liberal logic at its finest.

ICBM on October 8, 2009 at 5:31 PM

I can’t gird any more. I look like a sumo wrestler as it is now.

BobMbx on October 8, 2009 at 5:32 PM

mm mm mm
Barack Insane Obama
He said we must be nice today
Ignore what generals have to say
We’ll never send another man
We’ll make friends with the Taliban
mm mm mm

Daggett on October 8, 2009 at 5:32 PM

At this rate, it won’t be long until J Crew will start selling children’s burkas.

Beaglemom on October 8, 2009 at 5:25 PM

And won’t the little WHite House tricycle motors look so FETCHING in them?

seejanemom on October 8, 2009 at 5:33 PM

Acknowledging the Taliban’s deeply entrenched status in Afghanistan’s politics and culture is acknowledging reality. Whether we like it or not, they are very much going to have a role in Afghanistan’s future. This is a prudent distinction to make between the Taliban and Al-Qaeda.

mr_B on October 8, 2009 at 5:33 PM

Just come out and say we have to surrender parts of Afghanistan to the Taliban. That we don’t have the resources – or more accurately, aren’t willing to expend the resources – to root them out.

But this baloney is just too much.

SteveMG on October 8, 2009 at 5:33 PM

I can’t gird any more. I look like a sumo wrestler as it is now.

BobMbx on October 8, 2009 at 5:32 PM

***wetting my bloomers***

seejanemom on October 8, 2009 at 5:34 PM

At this rate, it won’t be long until J Crew will start selling children’s burkas.

Beaglemom on October 8, 2009 at 5:25 PM

LOL!!

And the next country star will be a woman in a burqa — Sharia Twain.

Daggett on October 8, 2009 at 5:34 PM

Our adversary is here among us, His Name is Barack Hussein Obama. This is a gross dereliction of his oath of office, He needs to be gone.

Viper1 on October 8, 2009 at 5:34 PM

Soon the Taliban and other terrorists in Afghanistan will hear about this and attack even more ferociously, hoping to tip Ogabe past the point of no return. They know now that he is counting corpses and making a political decision based on a number.

Thank you very much, moronic 52%, quite the Hope and Change you’ve inflicted upon this nation.

Bishop on October 8, 2009 at 5:34 PM

It’ll take a decade or more of war and privation to clean up the mess Obama will leave the world in after he’s gone. And, yes, he’s blowing it in Afghanistan…as I thought he would.

AUINSC on October 8, 2009 at 5:35 PM

Got elected by the media. Absolute treasonous behavior by both.

marklmail on October 8, 2009 at 5:35 PM

Hey obama: if you can’t handle the job, just resign. We’ll find a man to take your place.

Hiya Ciska on October 8, 2009 at 5:36 PM

Acknowledging the Taliban’s deeply entrenched status in Afghanistan’s politics and culture is acknowledging reality. Whether we like it or not, they are very much going to have a role in Afghanistan’s future. This is a prudent distinction to make between the Taliban and Al-Qaeda.

mr_B

Did you read Roggio? There is NO distinction. Idiot.

JAM on October 8, 2009 at 5:36 PM

absolutely appalling, this is the ‘realism’ in foreign affairs they claim, abandoning the local populace to death, dismemberment and rape

ginaswo on October 8, 2009 at 5:36 PM

Oh…and don’t be surprised if we see a ‘reset’ button presented to the Taliban as well…mis-spelled again of course…these guys never learn from mistakes.

AUINSC on October 8, 2009 at 5:36 PM

I would think Karzai may have something to say about this.Probably why the UN has demanded recount after recount. They must have wanted the other guy.

sandee on October 8, 2009 at 5:36 PM

Hey obama: if you can’t handle the job, just resign. We’ll find a man to take your place.

Hiya Ciska on October 8, 2009 at 5:36 PM

A man? I can think of three women with more balls than Obama — Sarah Palin, Liz Cheney and Michele Bachmann.

Daggett on October 8, 2009 at 5:36 PM

At this rate, it won’t be long until J Crew will start selling children’s burkas.

Beaglemom on October 8, 2009 at 5:25 PM

Michelle’s not going to like her arms being covered. Neither is the media, for that matter.

amerpundit on October 8, 2009 at 5:37 PM

Nazi’s not really an enemy, part of Germany’s future.

or something like that.

nolapol on October 8, 2009 at 5:37 PM

Come on guys, get it right! It’s mmm mmm mm

Only two m’s in the last part! Because you want to end it on a high note, a note of triumphal conformity:

mmm mmm mm!

pseudonominus on October 8, 2009 at 5:37 PM

Hey obama: if you can’t handle the job, just resign. We’ll find a man to take your place.

Hiya Ciska on October 8, 2009 at 5:36 PM

Or a woman. Palin 2012.

jimmy2shoes on October 8, 2009 at 5:37 PM

If the people we’ve been fighting for eight years aren’t the enemy, then the country no longer needs to be secured from them, does it?

7-Oct YahooNews— The Taliban had beheaded one of the tanker drivers. Beheadings and killings of NATO supply drivers are a common occurrence, Taliban spokesman Qari Yusef Ahmadi tells TIME in a telephone interview,We don’t deal with the infidel; we want to destroy them.”

Is Michelle planting special shrooms in her garden at the WH?

canditaylor68 on October 8, 2009 at 5:37 PM

A man? I can think of three women with more balls than Obama — Sarah Palin, Liz Cheney and Michele Bachmann.

Daggett on October 8, 2009 at 5:36 PM

We’d be better off with Hillary Clinton at this point than the dolt we have in office. At least Hillary seems to oppose his surrender strategy and moves with the polls on domestic issues.

amerpundit on October 8, 2009 at 5:37 PM

Acknowledging the Taliban’s deeply entrenched status in Afghanistan’s politics and culture is acknowledging reality. Whether we like it or not, they are very much going to have a role in Afghanistan’s future. This is a prudent distinction to make between the Taliban and Al-Qaeda.

mr_B on October 8, 2009 at 5:33 PM

If they are all dead, including their children, they won’t have any role.

Hiya Ciska on October 8, 2009 at 5:38 PM

What a sniveling little bunch of eunuchs we have in this Administration.

kingsjester on October 8, 2009 at 5:38 PM

When does McChrystal resign?

Knucklehead on October 8, 2009 at 5:39 PM

Obama kept returning to one question for his advisers: Who is our adversary, the official said.

Teh Won’s enemies list is apparently not entirely consistent with America’s enemies list.

rasta16ry on October 8, 2009 at 5:39 PM

if Hillary stays through this policy and allows the women fo arghanistan to be brutalized and suppressed when TOTUS waffles I never want to hear another word again from her on womens rights. or any of them, ever.

The Taliban made a big statement when they tore down the giant buddha statue on of the oldest in the world, its existence offended them, they destroy what they cannot subgagate (sp no idea)

we promised the people of Afghanistan our protection. even the whacadoodles in Code Pink relaize we shouldnt just leave

code pink has more cojones than Barry

ginaswo on October 8, 2009 at 5:40 PM

Obama kept returning to one question for his advisers: Who is our adversary, the official said.

One wonders how many of those “advisors” were in the military, and how many were political advisors.

Wethal on October 8, 2009 at 5:40 PM

JAM on October 8, 2009 at 5:36 PM

The Weekly Standard is pure propaganda. No credibility whatsoever.

mr_B on October 8, 2009 at 5:40 PM

Acknowledging the Taliban’s deeply entrenched status in Afghanistan’s politics and culture is acknowledging reality. Whether we like it or not, they are very much going to have a role in Afghanistan’s future. This is a prudent distinction to make between the Taliban and Al-Qaeda.

mr_B on October 8, 2009 at 5:33 PM

“The Nazis have a deeply entrenched status in Germany’s politics and culture. We’re simply acknowledging reality.”

“The British Crown has a deeply entrenched status in the 13 Colonies’ politics and culture. We’re simply acknowledging reality.”

“The French royalty has a deeply entrenched status in France’s politics and culture. We’re simply acknowledging reality.”

Thank God history wasn’t riddled with Surrendercrats in power.

amerpundit on October 8, 2009 at 5:41 PM

I saw a news article today that said the birth rate among Muslims is staggering. One in four people are identified as Muslim. It was on Lucianne.com. I have nothing against Muslims and am not racist. I have friends from Iran. That being said it is a scary thought the magnitude of their numbers.

sandee on October 8, 2009 at 5:41 PM

And 9/11 isn’t about an attack on the US that originated in Afghanistan. It’s about a “community service day.”

Wethal on October 8, 2009 at 5:42 PM

Morale is low for only one reason–the troops know that Obama does not believe in the mission. They have known since last year it was all campaign bullshit. No one wants to die/get wounded for Obama. It’s that simple.

patrick neid on October 8, 2009 at 5:42 PM

Is this guy (O) Serious? I mean really, is he serious? Has he really no clue? Can he really be that stupid? IF he is concerned about HealthCare defining his presidency – just wait until this blows up in his face.

EliTheBean on October 8, 2009 at 5:42 PM

Obama kept returning to one question for his advisers: Who is our adversary, the official said.

We do not have a Commander-in-Chief, we have a Chump-in-Chief, at best.

ICBM on October 8, 2009 at 5:43 PM

I can think of three women with more balls than Obama — Sarah Palin, Liz Cheney and Michele Bachmann.

Daggett on October 8, 2009 at 5:36 PM

It’s funny how many women are more of a man than Barry.

Vashta.Nerada on October 8, 2009 at 5:43 PM

All those Afghani’s who sided with us, they’re dead, and there goes any trust in the U.S. to stick by people whom we’ve promised to ally with.

Bishop on October 8, 2009 at 5:43 PM

The Weekly Standard is pure propaganda. No credibility whatsoever.

mr_B on October 8, 2009 at 5:40 PM

No, of course not. Let me guess: You consider the New York Times with its renowned reporters like Jayson Blair reliable. Or CBS with its notoriously-accurate Dan Rather. Or CNN with Mr. Credibility Rick Sanchez. Or MSNBC with Encyclopedia Olbermann. Or maybe Reuters with its reincarnations of Norman Rockwell.

amerpundit on October 8, 2009 at 5:43 PM

John Ringo’s book, ‘The Last Centurion’, is presentiment to what is happening. Good book, worth a read.

http://www.thelastcenturion.com/index.htm

bcre8v on October 8, 2009 at 5:44 PM

Another expiration date.

jukin on October 8, 2009 at 5:44 PM

Morale is low for only one reason–the troops know that Obama does not believe in the mission. They have known since last year it was all campaign bullshit. No one wants to die/get wounded for Obama. It’s that simple.

I wasn’t aware that anybody wanted to die or get wounded for anybody else either.

mr_B on October 8, 2009 at 5:44 PM

All those Afghani’s who sided with us, they’re dead, and there goes any trust in the U.S. to stick by people whom we’ve promised to ally with.

Bishop on October 8, 2009 at 5:43 PM

Bingo. Even if watered down, this has already damaged the relationship – permanently.

Vashta.Nerada on October 8, 2009 at 5:44 PM

Oh my… what will the “go after the people who attacked us” leftists say about this? Probably nothing, because The One can do no wrong.

RightWinged on October 8, 2009 at 5:45 PM

Elections have consequences.

Obama won and this is what we get.

If you would like to sponsor a soldier go to the site below. They need us more than ever. I have been doing it for 3 years. I send a card a week and a carepackage a month.
http://www.soldiersangels.org

Gob on October 8, 2009 at 5:45 PM

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