Census Bureau sending violent felons to our doors?

posted at 10:12 am on October 8, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Why does this sound so familiar?

A Senate Subcommittee hearing today revealed that nearly 36,000 Census Bureau employees were hired despite the fact that the fingerprint component of their criminal record checks was botched. Despite additional name checks recommended by the FBI, the GAO said that it was possible that more than 200 employees hired by the Census Bureau had criminal records, and were in contact with the public while canvassing for the ongoing 2010 census.

Robert Goldenkoff, the Government Accountability Office’s Director for Strategic Issues, said that the criminal record checks were bungled because of poor staff training. Bureau staff with less than 2 hours of training in fingerprinting ruined about a fifth of the 162,000 necessary criminal record checks.

If the properly processed criminal record checks are any indication, the Bureau may have let a large number of violent criminals slip through the cracks. Of the prints that were properly checked, about one percent, or 1,800 workers, had criminal records that name checks failed to identify.

Of these 1,800 workers with criminal records, about 750 had their employment terminated or further reviewed due to criminal records that included crimes like rape, manslaughter and child abuse. Projecting these numbers to the employees with spoilt prints, the GAO came up with the figure of 200 census workers that may have had serious criminal records.

This should ring a bell for readers of Captain’s Quarters.  In  2004, Democrats used Americans Coming Together to conduct door-to-door voter registration drives, and ACT hired felons to knock on doors to persuade voters into becoming Democrats.  Eventually the John Kerry campaign and the Democrats ended their association with ACT out of embarrassment.

Now, however, it looks like they’ve turned the Census Bureau into ACT all over again.  Unfortunately, we don’t have the luxury of turning Census Bureau workers away from our doors as we do with partisan community organizers.  In their rush to hire, probably brought on in an attempt to alleviate the unemployment numbers (the money this year came from the stimulus package), the Census Bureau botched a process that private-sector employers routinely employ, and hired hundreds of felons to demand our personal information on our doorsteps.

Imagine how the Obama administration will handle hiring in the public-option health-insurance agencies …

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“Mind if I come in to take your information, and are you alone at home today?”

Bishop on October 8, 2009 at 11:15 AM

It is sort of funny in a terrible way that rapists applied for the jobs. (That’s just so…..chutzpha!)

AnninCA on October 8, 2009 at 10:24 AM

Twisted sense of humor you got there. Are you a Kennedy? He liked to joke about the death of Mary Jo.
Sick.

bridgetown on October 8, 2009 at 11:17 AM

Last weekend I was at an Oktoberfest in Germantown, MD. Among the many stands was one for the U.S. Census, with a woman behind the table spouting nonsense like, “If you’ve got two feet on the ground, and you’re in the United States, you should fill this out. It’s in the Constitution!”

Lockstein13 on October 8, 2009 at 11:08 AM

I thought the census was next year- 2010. What are they having you fill out now? There is a process to this stuff. First you give the illegals immediate no-strings attached citizenship. Then you conduct the census. Finally you apportion to include these “new Americans” as well as all the homeless that are estimated to be living under the local bridge.

highhopes on October 8, 2009 at 11:21 AM

“Mind if I come in to take your information, and are you alone at home today?”

Bishop on October 8, 2009 at 11:15 AM

You sure got purty lips….

right2bright on October 8, 2009 at 11:23 AM

When the census guy visits my house, I plan on appearing at the door wearing a blood-stained leather apron with a goofy smile on my face.

“Come on in” I’ll say in my best jovial voice, “Let’s go down to the cellar and talk.”

Bishop on October 8, 2009 at 11:23 AM

“Nice home you have here…

… it be a shame if anything happened to it. Now, about this Census thingy….”

Seven Percent Solution on October 8, 2009 at 11:24 AM

I don’t think it’s incompetence. I think there is a laissez faire attitude towards felons in this administration since it would be ”discrimination” if they are not hired for employment.

Regardless, now I have another thing to worry about.
Carter, despite being an epic failure, never made me worry about felons knocking on my door for census information.

nyx on October 8, 2009 at 11:26 AM

Gee, I jst have this little thingy about giving all my information to a convicted felon. Would you like me to invite them for tea?

katy the mean old lady on October 8, 2009 at 11:10 AM

Would it be a faux pas to ask the census worker what he/she was convicted for and how much time they did behind bars before they started working for Rahm Emanuel on the modern day Domesday book so that the filthy lying despot knows where all the wealth is located- the better to seize it for his loyalists.

highhopes on October 8, 2009 at 11:26 AM

It is sort of funny in a terrible way that rapists applied for the jobs. (That’s just so…..chutzpha!)

AnninCA on October 8, 2009 at 10:24 AM

Twisted sense of humor you got there. Are you a Kennedy? He liked to joke about the death of Mary Jo.
Sick.

bridgetown on October 8, 2009 at 11:17 AM

And in another bizarre twisted bit of government thinking-those very same rapists aka government census employees are gathering information that may contribute to determining how STD/HIV/HCG testing kits are to be taxed. The tests usually needed after being raped.

canditaylor68 on October 8, 2009 at 11:29 AM

How can this administration act so innocent about these hired felons when Dear Leader himself hired the chief Organization of Felons aka ACORN to register voters?

nyx on October 8, 2009 at 11:29 AM

AnninCA on October 8, 2009 at 10:54 AM

That doesn’t begin to mitigate your stupid, insensitive, horrible attempt at “humor”…assuming it isn’t one of your made up posts. Go away. I don’t understand why the billy goats gruff haven’t banned your keister from this site. You add nothing but annoyance. Shoo!

Laura in Maryland on October 8, 2009 at 11:29 AM

Does the Census Bureau have enough Kevlar Vests to hand out?

PappaMac on October 8, 2009 at 11:29 AM

We could always play into the stereo-types that they put on us.

Census Worker: How many people live in your house?

Me: I don’t know, I can’t count.

Census Worker: Okay… when do you leave for work?

Me: Oh I don’t, I stay here all day and night reading my Bible and when I’m not reading my Bible I’m cleaning my hundreds of guns and talking to my wife about how much I hate people that don’t look like me or believe what I believe.

MobileVideoEngineer on October 8, 2009 at 11:30 AM

I don’t think it’s incompetence. I think there is a laissez faire attitude towards felons in this administration since it would be ”discrimination” if they are not hired for employment.

nyx on October 8, 2009 at 11:26 AM

Not laissez faire, if challenged you would undoubtedly get the “they’ve paid their debt to society and should be allowed around your children” speech.

What I want to know is who got fired. They said that rapists are coming to your door because of bad staff training, was the Executive at the Census Bureau in charge of training fired? What about field level trainers? Who lost their jobs over this? My guess is nobody and that all involved actually got bonuses this year.

highhopes on October 8, 2009 at 11:31 AM

Does anyone know a website that lists what questions we are obligated to answer for the census and what questions can be refused?

lanesmerge on October 8, 2009 at 11:31 AM

Sounds like Acorn?

That makes all of us racist.

Hening on October 8, 2009 at 11:32 AM

The Clinton administration hired hippies.

The Obama administration has hired dummies, the offspring of the Clinton Administration hippies.

fogw on October 8, 2009 at 10:37 AM

Clinton administration: hippies
Obama administration: dummies
Obama’s second administration: dhimmis

KyMouse on October 8, 2009 at 11:33 AM

how much I hate people that don’t look like me or believe what I believe

My brother used to get out of jury duty every time with that little nugget.

Haunches on October 8, 2009 at 11:33 AM

lanesmerge on October 8, 2009 at 11:31 AM

I was in between jobs during the last Census and I did some field work.

YOU DON’T HAVE TO ANSWER A DAMN THING!!

PappaMac on October 8, 2009 at 11:33 AM

Will the 2010 Census have a check box for Right Wing Extremists?

WashJeff on October 8, 2009 at 10:32 AM

Yeah right next to the “are you a communist” check box if that makes you feel any better

grapeknutz on October 8, 2009 at 11:34 AM

It is sort of funny in a terrible way that rapists applied for the jobs. (That’s just so…..chutzpha!)

AnninCA on October 8, 2009 at 10:24 AM

Twisted sense of humor you got there. Are you a Kennedy? He liked to joke about the death of Mary Jo.
Sick.

bridgetown on October 8, 2009 at 11:17 AM

Careful there, AnninCA; I told a Doctor/Lawyer/Priest joke here 2 wks. ago and was excoriated with flaming indignation.

On a related note-

“Knock, knock”
“Who’s there?”
“Census”
“Census who?”
“Census you was alone, I thought I’d take advantage of the situation.”
“Oh, okay, Sparkman the second. I was just polishing my hollow-points… come on in.”

Doorgunner on October 8, 2009 at 11:36 AM

I won’t even answer the survey sent home by the catholic schools which is demanded by the city for me to tell them how many children I have and where they would go to school if they didn’t go to catholic school.

Haunches on October 8, 2009 at 11:37 AM

This post needs to be updated with the Christopher Walken video from SNL when he talks to the census worker. Greatest census responses ever.

txlitigator on October 8, 2009 at 11:00 AM

Here you go.

Rebar on October 8, 2009 at 11:38 AM

AnninCA on October 8, 2009 at 10:54 AM

Where did you go. Did Soros let you go potty. How nice of him. Maybe you can pinch off some better material for the next thread.

Laura in Maryland on October 8, 2009 at 11:40 AM

Don’t let them in, and tell them only the number of people that live there. Period.

infidel4life on October 8, 2009 at 11:44 AM

what is the penalty for not responding to the Census?

cpr on October 8, 2009 at 11:45 AM

As a past victim of rape and spousal abuse, trust is not in my make up. I live in a gated, armed community, so good luck getting in there. Also, I havent answered a door in 8 yrs. No way I am telling people I dont want at my doorstep personal info about myself.

di butler on October 8, 2009 at 11:47 AM

Where did you go. Did Soros let you go potty. How nice of him. Maybe you can pinch off some better material for the next thread.

Laura in Maryland on October 8, 2009 at 11:40 AM

Is that why Ann comes here? It makes sense I guess, since no one here likes her or her twisted sense of ‘humor’.

AsianGirlInTights on October 8, 2009 at 11:47 AM

“Representation and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers … . The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct.”
– Article I, Section 2 of the Constitution of the United States

Note the above. Nothing that makes participation mandatory. Nothing that insists the filthy liar in the White House and his corrupt party need to know how many televisions you own.

You are not obligated to provide any information you choose not to disclose. You should probably answer how many people reside at your address for the simple fact that this is how apportionment of Congressional seats occurs but- as to all the other stuff. It’s none of Obama’s business.

highhopes on October 8, 2009 at 11:49 AM

It is sort of funny in a terrible way that rapists applied for the jobs. (That’s just so…..chutzpha!)

AnninCA on October 8, 2009 at 10:24 AM

I love it when you show your stupidity. It saves me work.

ladyingray on October 8, 2009 at 11:55 AM

Simple solution – don’t answer your door bell or knock if you don’t know the person knocking. That’s what the peep hole is for.

docdave on October 8, 2009 at 11:56 AM

what is the penalty for not responding to the Census?

cpr on October 8, 2009 at 11:45 AM

My understanding is you can be fined up to $100 for not answering, and up to $500 for lying, on the census form. So you’re better off tossing the thing in the trash, rather than sending in silly answers. What the penalty is for running the thing through the shredder and sending the confetti back, I don’t know.

Rebar on October 8, 2009 at 11:58 AM

What do you suppose the government would do if we ALL slammed our doors in their face. Better yet, open the door packing heat. It’s not like this fiasco is straight up anymore. It’s become a tool for the Dems.

hopefloats on October 8, 2009 at 11:00 AM
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Like I said yesterday,they make their jails bigger,they have no idea.

ohiobabe on October 8, 2009 at 11:59 AM

That should be they BETTER make their jails bigger,people are waking up to this corrupt,hypocrisy,DO AS I SAY OR ELSE crap

ohiobabe on October 8, 2009 at 12:01 PM

“How many kids to you have, what’s their favorite candy and what are they wearing?”

Fletch54 on October 8, 2009 at 12:01 PM

“Nice home you have here…

… it be a shame if anything happened to it. Now, about this Census thingy….”

Seven Percent Solution on October 8, 2009 at 11:24 AM
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Yeah :),nice car you have there,you want to keep it all in one piece dude?GO AHEAD ,MAKE MY FREAKIN’ DAY!!!!!

ohiobabe on October 8, 2009 at 12:04 PM

The projection for Texas is FOUR new seats in the House. You can be sure the count will be completed. The dilemma is where will we find FOUR conservatives that are willing to go to DC.

Blacksmith8 on October 8, 2009 at 12:05 PM

“Nice home you have here…

… it be a shame if anything happened to it. Now, about this Census thingy….”

Seven Percent Solution on October 8, 2009 at 11:24 AM

Two words from Texas: Castle Doctrine
Translation: You’re not from around here are ya?

Blacksmith8 on October 8, 2009 at 12:08 PM

Unfortunately, we don’t have the luxury of turning Census Bureau workers away from our doors as we do with partisan community organizers.

Just watch me.

mizflame98 on October 8, 2009 at 12:08 PM

Mind if I come in while I take your information, and do you
~collect art?
~collect coins?
~collect guns?
~buy gold and store it on the premises?
~keep a safe on the premises?
~have any young daughters?

petefrt on October 8, 2009 at 12:12 PM

What the penalty is for running the thing through the shredder and sending the confetti back, I don’t know.

Rebar on October 8, 2009 at 11:58 AM
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I need a new shredder then:)

ohiobabe on October 8, 2009 at 12:13 PM

That’s what the peep hole is for.

docdave on October 8, 2009 at 11:56 AM
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Or a huge,pit bull/mastiff cross:)

ohiobabe on October 8, 2009 at 12:14 PM

No way I am telling people I dont want at my doorstep personal info about myself.

di butler on October 8, 2009 at 11:47 AM
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mmm,mmm,mmm!

ohiobabe on October 8, 2009 at 12:15 PM

I don’t get it. Why are you guys against the census? It’s the basis for estimating all kinds of things.

What’s the objection?

AnninCA on October 8, 2009 at 10:22 AM

Like how many trucks need to haul away the loot tonight?
How big is the widescreen? What would the jewelry be worth.

seven on October 8, 2009 at 12:20 PM

Two words from Texas: Castle Doctrine
Translation: You’re not from around here are ya?

Blacksmith8 on October 8, 2009 at 12:08 PM

LOL

bridgetown on October 8, 2009 at 12:24 PM

I’m starting to feel like I’m living in Egypt during the plagues. When it all ended Egypt was ruined, yet Pharaoh pressed on and no one was able to stop him, even the wise among his own people.

cjk on October 8, 2009 at 12:28 PM

Here you go.

Rebar on October 8, 2009 at 11:38 AM
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Thanks,I had not seen that:):)

ohiobabe on October 8, 2009 at 12:28 PM

I’m starting to feel like I’m living in Egypt during the plagues. When it all ended Egypt was ruined, yet Pharaoh pressed on and no one was able to stop him, even the wise among his own people.

cjk on October 8, 2009 at 12:28 PM
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He got his just dessert,how’d that water feel buddy as you choke and gasp for air? O will get his it just may take time.

ohiobabe on October 8, 2009 at 12:32 PM

The census law states that it shall be conducted every 10 years, by mail. The only question you have to mark is “how many are in your household?”.

Why is anyone opening the door for these thugs, for anyone in regards to the census?

Schadenfreude on October 8, 2009 at 1:00 PM

I don’t get it. Why are you guys against the census? It’s the basis for estimating all kinds of things.

What’s the objection?

AnninCA on October 8, 2009 at 10:22 AM

Go read my comment of 1:00 PM.

Schadenfreude on October 8, 2009 at 1:02 PM

Don’t let them in, and tell them only the number of people that live there. Period.

infidel4life on October 8, 2009 at 11:44 AM

Precisely – and DO that by mail – it’s the only legal requirement.

Also, be very rude to anyone who calls you on the phone, regarding census or any related questions. It’s all part of the Thug Machine. Fight it!

Schadenfreude on October 8, 2009 at 1:04 PM

It is sort of funny in a terrible way that rapists applied for the jobs. (That’s just so…..chutzpha!)

AnninCA on October 8, 2009 at 10:24 AM

This more than negates all your other ‘civilized’ pretenses.

Also, it’s “funny” so long as you’re not the raped one – just stating the obvious to a dove brain.

Schadenfreude on October 8, 2009 at 1:07 PM

So far I’ve never given more info than how many total live in my house. They’ve sent out other people, but I turned them away. The census, according to the constitution is ONLY for apportionment of representatives.

Jeff from WI on October 8, 2009 at 1:23 PM

I don’t get it. Why are you guys against the census? It’s the basis for estimating all kinds of things.

What’s the objection?

AnninCA on October 8, 2009 at 10:22 AM

Because it’s none of their business.

Jeff from WI on October 8, 2009 at 1:24 PM

I was in between jobs during the last Census and I did some field work.

YOU DON’T HAVE TO ANSWER A DAMN THING!!

PappaMac on October 8, 2009 at 11:33 AM

That’s what I plan on doing,standing mute with a piercing stare and a trembling hand that I have to hold onto.

inevitable on October 8, 2009 at 1:41 PM

If you are in a blue district, allow a person in a red distrcit to report the people in your house. The Adopt-a-RednBlue program.

WashJeff on October 8, 2009 at 2:00 PM

I think I own a school now or at least a wing of the building, after paying taxes for over thirty years. My school tax alone is in excess of $6,000 a year.

fogw on October 8, 2009 at 10:49 AM

I hear you Foggy. I don’t know if I deserve a whole school named afer me, maybe just a library.

And not a whole highway, just an overpass, or a bridge or something.

JusDreamin on October 8, 2009 at 2:07 PM

Some facts to calm a few people down”

If you send in the form by mail, no one contacts you

When the ‘enumerator’ comes to your front door, it will probably be a ‘she’

She or he is trained to NOT come inside your house, but ask you the questions while standing just outside your door.

If you refuse to answer the questions, someone from the Census Bureau will be back WITH A FEDERAL MARSHALL.

guys, just mail in the form…..

Janos Hunyadi on October 8, 2009 at 2:18 PM

The census law states that it shall be conducted every 10 years, by mail. The only question you have to mark is “how many are in your household?”.

Why is anyone opening the door for these thugs, for anyone in regards to the census?

Schadenfreude on October 8, 2009 at 1:00 PM

Exactly. They get nothing from me.

Vashta.Nerada on October 8, 2009 at 2:29 PM

*knock knock* “Census!”

(sound of shotgun slide being worked)

mojo on October 8, 2009 at 2:29 PM

Some facts to calm a few people down”

If you refuse to answer the questions, someone from the Census Bureau will be back WITH A FEDERAL MARSHALL.

Janos Hunyadi on October 8, 2009 at 2:18 PM

Yeah, that helps…actually I understand the census…
How many people, including the head of the household, legally live here?
Answer:
How many are legally qualified to vote in a federal election in the year 2010?
Answer:
End of questions….Thank you.
Census is too determine representation all they need to know is the number of legal residence.

right2bright on October 8, 2009 at 2:36 PM

If you refuse to answer the questions, someone from the Census Bureau will be back WITH A FEDERAL MARSHALL.

Janos Hunyadi on October 8, 2009 at 2:18 PM

And what’s the federal marshall going to do? Arrest me?

bridgetown on October 8, 2009 at 2:41 PM

So basically… the Census Bureau is just directly hiring all the people from ACORN?

malclave on October 8, 2009 at 3:42 PM

If you are in a blue district, allow a person in a red distrcit to report the people in your house. The Adopt-a-RednBlue program.

WashJeff on October 8, 2009 at 2:00 PM

Hey, I like your way of thinking partner.

Blacksmith8 on October 8, 2009 at 4:42 PM

And what’s the federal marshall going to do? Arrest me?

[bridgetown on October 8, 2009 at 2:41 PM]

Who knows, but they better be careful about not arresting you before the law requires you to answer the questions for the 2010 census. The 2010 census taking can’t start before April 1, 2010.

Dusty on October 8, 2009 at 4:48 PM

Can they at least make speaking English a requirement? In 2000 the census worker who came to my door could not speak a word of English.

warden on October 8, 2009 at 4:51 PM

And what’s the federal marshall going to do? Arrest me?

bridgetown on October 8, 2009 at 2:41 PM

Issue you a citation, and a fine…

right2bright on October 8, 2009 at 4:56 PM

Census Bureau sending violent felons to our doors?

So… ACORN will be involved in Census taking?

ronnyraygun on October 8, 2009 at 5:01 PM

Issue you a citation, and a fine…

right2bright on October 8, 2009 at 4:56 PM

Nobody has been cited or fined for at least 30 years.

Vashta.Nerada on October 8, 2009 at 5:02 PM

One thing I used to find heard was particularly effective when dealing with intrusive NRC inspectors. Load up on pickled eggs and cabbage and just before they start quizzing you chew a couple of cloves of garlic. Then during the session you get as close as you can and invade their space. Interviews under these circumstances tend to be short, so I heard. Not a lot that they’re going to say to you….except good-bye.

Oldnuke on October 8, 2009 at 5:08 PM

My neatly printed sign is already up on the door:

BEWARE OF GUN-TOTING RHODESIAN RIDGEBACK WITH CRAVING FOR CLIPBOARDS

seejanemom on October 8, 2009 at 5:18 PM

The 2010 census taking can’t start before April 1, 2010.

Dusty on October 8, 2009 at 4:48 PM

After this date, when you receive the census in the mail, fill out ONLY one item – how many are living in your household. Period. Send it back.

After that NO ONE should show up. If they show up before April 1st, 2010, or after, if you’ve sent in your form, send them to hell, directly, politely. Close door. They have NO business being there. It’s the law.

Schadenfreude on October 8, 2009 at 5:52 PM

For enumeration purposes, the age and number of persons residing in the household on April 1, 2010 is the only requirement called for under the Constitution (and that’s all I’ll be reporting). From 1790 through 1840 this was pretty much all that was asked.

Starting in 1850 and continuing up to the present day, the Census Bureau began seeking much more information. You can view blank forms for each census from 1790 to 1930 here.

OBTW(1): did anyone catch the motto, “Helping you make informed decisions” on the bag’s label in the picture?

OBTW(2): They really ought to resurrect the question from 1850 through 1870 — “Whether deaf and dumb, blind, insane, idiotic, pauper, or convict” — just to have the PC statists’ heads explode!

ya2daup on October 8, 2009 at 6:07 PM

The 2010 census taking can’t start before April 1, 2010.

Dusty on October 8, 2009 at 4:48 PM

WRONG, the census enumeration has been being conducted in parts of California since at least June, if not before.
WHY are census workers entering ACORN offices in California, and have been even AFTER the census officially declared it was cutting ties with ACORN?
WHY did Obama seize the census from the Department of Commerce, thus violating the Constitution?

nelsonknows on October 8, 2009 at 6:10 PM

Nobody has been cited or fined for at least 30 years.

Vashta.Nerada on October 8, 2009 at 5:02 PM

From what I read, closer to 50 years. For whatever reason, two people were fined $100 each back in 1960.

The government isn’t going to enforce this.

highhopes on October 8, 2009 at 6:13 PM

Also, be very rude to anyone who calls you on the phone, regarding census or any related questions. It’s all part of the Thug Machine. Fight it!

Schadenfreude on October 8, 2009 at 1:04 PM

A while ago, I got a series of calls from someone purporting to be census. Told them I didn’t give out info like that over the phone, and if the census wanted info, they would have to mail me the questions on their letterhead. Person on other end started to recite threats, and after reminding them I have no way of verifying their identity, told them to stop calling me and hung up on them.
It seemed to have worked the second time. But oddly enough, I didn’t got any mail from census afterwards. Hmmmm…

petefrt on October 8, 2009 at 6:13 PM

ya2daup on October 8, 2009 at 6:07 PM

I won’t be even participating in that much of the census. We will have NO participation in the census AT ALL until Obama returns the census back to the DIRECT jurisdiction of Congress, who placed it with the Commerce Dept. over 100 years ago. Obama ILLEGALLY and unconstitutionally seized the census, until I can be assured that the White House and ACORN has NO illegal involvement, I’m not playing this game.

nelsonknows on October 8, 2009 at 6:14 PM

WHY did Obama seize the census from the Department of Commerce, thus violating the Constitution?

nelsonknows on October 8, 2009 at 6:10 PM

Commerce is part of the Executive Dept. It may be questionable and a conflict of interest to politicize the census by putting Rahm Emanuel in charge. It may even be illegal but it is not not violating the Constitution. This is all that is said-

The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct.”
– Article I, Section 2 of the Constitution of the United
States

highhopes on October 8, 2009 at 6:16 PM

My neatly printed sign is already up on the door:

BEWARE OF GUN-TOTING RHODESIAN RIDGEBACK WITH CRAVING FOR CLIPBOARDS

seejanemom on October 8, 2009 at 5:18 PM

You might want to put a couple seed clipboards out- ones that look like they’ve been thoroughly gnawed down to the metal clips. :-0

highhopes on October 8, 2009 at 6:19 PM

Load up on pickled eggs and cabbage and just before they start quizzing you chew a couple of cloves of garlic.

Oldnuke on October 8, 2009 at 5:08 PM

I have a smart dog who eats a boiled egg every morning for breakfast and is always loaded for bear. But that’s good advice for those without a trusty pup, in case somehow goons gain entry to your house.

petefrt on October 8, 2009 at 6:22 PM

The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct.”
– Article I, Section 2 of the Constitution of the United States

highhopes on October 8, 2009 at 6:16 PM

Exactly, in a manner that THEY, CONGRESS shall direct, NOT the Executive branch or the president, which is a DIRECT violation of the Constitution as this is a CLEAR violation of the Separation of Powers as Congress is named in Article 1, Section 2, Clause 3 as having the DIRECT jurisdiction to establish law concerning the census.

nelsonknows on October 8, 2009 at 6:34 PM

I read once where some people are so stupid they don’t even suspect anything.

BuckeyeSam on October 8, 2009 at 10:37 AM

Is it just that I’m originally from OH-IO or is this the funniest comment on this thread?

gopmom on October 8, 2009 at 7:24 PM

Where did you go. Did Soros let you go potty. How nice of him. Maybe you can pinch off some better material for the next thread.

Laura in Maryland on October 8, 2009 at 11:40 AM

FINALLY!!!

Another girl in here with some LIP on her….WELCOME, sugar! ;)

seejanemom on October 8, 2009 at 7:30 PM

You might want to put a couple seed clipboards out- ones that look like they’ve been thoroughly gnawed down to the metal clips. :-0

highhopes on October 8, 2009 at 6:19 PM

DONE!

I’ll toss ‘em right out there next to the bloodied purple S.E.I.U t-shirt.

seejanemom on October 8, 2009 at 7:32 PM

Nobody has been cited or fined for at least 30 years.

Vashta.Nerada on October 8, 2009 at 5:02 PM

Okay, and we have never had an administration like this…actually I am not sure anyone has ever been fined.

right2bright on October 8, 2009 at 7:46 PM

Just make sure the target is centered on the forehead; I have a problem not hitting the bullseye!

Cybergeezer on October 8, 2009 at 8:07 PM

Does the Census Bureau have enough Kevlar Vests to hand out?

PappaMac on October 8, 2009 at 11:29 AM

I’d bet a frosty pitcher of your favorite beverage they don’t have enough Kevlar just to complete the census in TEXAS.

Can you say “Castle Doctrine”?

Sure you can………

Katfish on October 8, 2009 at 8:26 PM

WRONG, the census enumeration has been being conducted in parts of California since at least June, if not before.

nelsonknows on October 8, 2009 at 6:10 PM

If this can be proven then the law is being violated. The census enumerates where you were on a particular (future) day, April 1, 2010. Anyone “taking a census” while in the employ of the Census Bureau prior to that date is suborning perjury.

ya2daup on October 8, 2009 at 8:30 PM

how far you drive to work
when you leave for work/get home

Jeesh*….that is giving strangers too much information

AnninCA on October 8, 2009 at 10:55 AM

THAT is just part of the questions asked on the long form. Would you really want to have to provide that to a previously convicted rapist? Instead of giving me a glib reply, take a minute to think about it. Would you want your daughter to have to open the door to that situation?

TugboatPhil on October 8, 2009 at 9:23 PM

Issue you a citation, and a fine…

right2bright on October 8, 2009 at 4:56 PM

Nobody has been cited or fined for at least 30 years.

Vashta.Nerada on October 8, 2009 at 5:02 PM

Any bets as to whether any “refuseniks” had their tax returns pulled for an audit? Wanna bet whether Tax Cheat Timmy wouldn’t do it?

TugboatPhil on October 8, 2009 at 9:26 PM

Allow me to clear up a small percentage of the confusion.

I am one of only 6 semi-permanent employees in my city for the US Census Bureau. That is, when the USCB began their initial hiring process for the 2010 Census in Nov. of 2008, the entire project was broken up into about 12 different phases. (In order to prevent employees from receiving Federal benefits, as well as to inflate the number of jobs provided, no one is receving an employment contract of longer than 60 days.)Only the permanent employees work through the entire project, which is scheduled to end in Dec. 2010 with the possibility of lasting 2 additional years for a select group of employees who may have some massive data cleanup to perform.

The largest group of employees to be hired for the 2010 Census has already come and gone. Between March and early June we mapped every city block, county road and potential dwelling in existence at that time in the entire country. That was a massive undertaking, and your tax dollars were spent quite freely. I hadn’t known that it was paid for with stimulus money.

The second-largest group of employees will be hired as enumerators to perform personal interviews for all addresses that are known to exist but who fail to respond to the mailed survey form.

Many of those addresses who fail to respond will be vacant, but if a neighbor or housing administrator cannot confirm that status the enumerator and his crew chief will be required to make 4 visits to that address before passing the address up the line to the next chain of command.

They tell us the much-hated long form will not be used this year, but the questionnaire still will ask for all persons living in your home, ages, and relationship to the head of the household. I don’t know about requiring names but I wouldn’t be surprised if they do.

Cooperation with the Census is 1) required by law; and 2) only common sense. Do you really want your state/county/city/community to be underrepresented in the future because a whole bunch of us intentionally skewed the results because we didn’t trust 750 out of the 200,000 Census workers who are probably working in crime-ridden neighborhoods anyway? Why don’t you just give the Dems the right to control everything because you refuse to participate? /sarc

Out of my 24 co-workers in the early stages of the 2010 Census, 23 lived in one of the most conservative counties in my state, and I’d bet that 20 of us voted Republican or more conservative in the last election. None of us found out about the job through our local ACORN rep. We all laugh at the notion that the government could improve our health care. Nevertheless, many of our neighbors are fearful to talk to the stranger that appears on the doorstep, and the fact that we took an oath to uphold the Constitution and are actually working for the good of our local communities (cry for me, Mrs. O!) doesn’t, and shouldn’t change that.

My advice: do your civic duty. Fill out the questionnaire. If you want to control the info that gets turned in, you turn it in. Don’t require the enumerator to come looking for you and possibly fill in info based on their perception (that would be strongly against the procedures they swore to perform, but it happens).

The USCB does not have access to information that the rest of the government already has on you. Unless info was given to them in a previous census (including the smaller ones they perform on a constant basis) they cannot just go look you up in some other reference manual. If you are going to be counted in April, you must allow yourself to be counted.

The law very stringently forbids the USCB from sharing the specifics of the collected data with anyone until released to the federal Archives after 72 years. However, I must agree with all of the respondents I have interviewed who said that I couldn’t guarantee that those persons high up in the Executive Branch will actually respect that law after they’ve freely broken so many others.:{

BTW, the questionnaires will go out before April 1. Interviews are scheduled to begin shortly after that date.

Hope some of this helps.

rwenger43 on October 8, 2009 at 11:49 PM

“KNOCK KNOCK”
“Who’s there?”
“Census rapist”.

Better have your Uzi ready.

MaiDee on October 8, 2009 at 11:51 PM

So the people who were suppose to fingerprint these people weren’t trained right, how should we think the census workers will be trained?

I’m guessing we’re gonna have lots of new districts in lots of minority and hippy areas.

Rbastid on October 8, 2009 at 11:55 PM

Mixed feelings here…I don’t really trust 100% of criminal convictions because of the incompetence of judges, the confusion of having to sort through disjointed evidence/testimony as a juror, and the desire on the part of DAs to get convictions no matter what in order to further their careers even to the point of withholding exculpatory evidence.

But, for those with long criminal records…that’s a different matter.

Dr. ZhivBlago on October 9, 2009 at 12:37 AM

If this can be proven then the law is being violated. The census enumerates where you were on a particular (future) day, April 1, 2010. Anyone “taking a census” while in the employ of the Census Bureau prior to that date is suborning perjury.

ya2daup on October 8, 2009 at 8:30 PM

I filled out a long form over two months ago. Got another one with a semi-threatening letter attached, so I went and retrieved the first one and filled it out and sent it in. Nothing on there compromised my security so far as I can tell, but it irks me that they want to know anything beyond the fact that I’m a citizen and I’m entitled to representation. Damned if I filled in the part about race–none of those race hustlers need to use me or my family for anything.

tcn on October 9, 2009 at 12:48 AM

rwenger43 on October 8, 2009 at 11:49
First of all Obama has violated the U.S. Constitution by removing the census from the Department of Commerce where CONGRESS, in it’s constitutional authority had placed the census over 100 years ago. Not only is this unconstitutional, it is ILLEGAL. Participating in the census would then be supporting an unconstitutional and illegal act. When it can be proven that the 2010 census has been RETURNED to the direct jurisdiction of Congress and that ACORN and ALL ACORN employees has been COMPLETELY removed from ANY business concerning the census, then I will be more than happy to “do my civic duty”, and participate in the census. Until that time the Federal Government CANNOT require ANYONE to participate in an illegal census and ANY threat would be COERCION AND WOULD VIOLATE U.S. CODE 42, SS 12203.

nelsonknows on October 9, 2009 at 1:06 AM

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