Homeland Security decertifies Arizona sheriff for immigration enforcement
posted at 1:36 pm on October 7, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Say, isn’t the primary mission of the Department of Homeland Security to, er, secure the homeland? Someone needs to remind Janet Napolitano of that mission, which includes enforcing immigration laws, after her agency decertified Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio and his deputies for acting as ICE agents in that specific mission. Arpaio’s sin? He apparently had too much enthusiasm for the job (via USA Today blog On Deadline):
The U.S. Department of Homeland Security has stripped Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio of his authority to arrest suspected illegal immigrants based solely on their immigration status.
But Arpaio said Tuesday he plans to continue his controversial “crime suppression operations,” despite DHS’s decision to not renew an agreement that would allow the sheriff to continue immigration enforcement on the streets. …
Arpaio said he believes DHS made the changes to stop his “crime suppression operations,” which are saturation patrols in designated areas where deputies would find illegal immigrants by stopping them for traffic infractions and minor violations.
The Department of Justice and other federal agencies are investigating the sheriff’s office on accusations of racial profiling during the crime suppression operations.
In a Pulitzer Prize-winning series published in July 2008, the Tribune found the sheriff’s office’s illegal-immigration sweeps violated federal regulations intended to prevent racial profiling. The five-part series also found that the sweeps diverted resources from core law-enforcement functions, which in some cases caused response times to increase.
The Tribune’s point about resource allocation within the sheriff’s department is well taken — and completely irrelevant. The DHS does not have the authority to dictate resource allocation of county sheriffs anywhere. The people of Maricopa County make the determination of whether their sheriff has allocated resources to their liking, not the federal government. Arpaio stands for election every four years, and so far no challenger has come within 10 points of Arpaio. If Maricopa County residents are unhappy with Arpaio’s management of resources, they’re not demonstrating it.
If the Maricopa County Sheriff Department violated civil-rights rules, then the Department of Justice has the duty to investigate and to take corrective action. So far, though, no one has proven anything of the sort — and that still wouldn’t be the jurisdiction of DHS. Instead of working with Arpaio, whose publicity-seeking manner admittedly makes cooperation somewhat more unlikely on the issue of methods, the DHS instead cut off Maricopa County from assisting DHS from enforcing immigration law, which tends to give an indication of the priority of such enforcement in this administration.
Update: I got an e-mail questioning whether the front-page pic was Arpaio. Just in case, I’ve substituted another.
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Tough on crime, indeed.
http://www.goldwaterinstitute.org/Common/Img/Mission%20Unaccomplished.pdf
AJB on October 7, 2009 at 3:13 PM
Racist!
Mangy Scot on October 7, 2009 at 3:14 PM
I have a question for people who know the law better than I do: If a local cop is ‘decertified’ by Washington, and fails to uphold Federal laws, can he be charged with aiding and abetting a criminal?
Liam on October 7, 2009 at 3:27 PM
Well, don’t we all just love statistics?
So, what happened in Maricopa County? Did homicides increase by 166% or did reporting of homicides increase by 166% and what was the raw data? For example, an increase from 2 to 3.32 is 166% as well. But, then, so is an increase from 2,000 to 3,320. In one case, you’ve got 1.32 more homicide victims over 3 years. In the other, 1,320. But, statistics don’t lie, right?
Quoting the stats w/o any explanation, examination or backup is supposed to suggest, I’m assuming, that the Sheriff had all the cops out harassing brown people while murderers were rampaging across the county on a 3-year killing spree, totally unimpeded by distracted law enforcement.
It would seem that the point of the post would still be valid. It would seem to be a safe bet that the voters of Maricopa County would frown on a murderous rampage and replace the Sheriff. He’s an elected official. That’s the way you replace elected officials under our system of government, vote them out of office.
IndieDogg on October 7, 2009 at 3:28 PM
time to declare teh border a ‘free fire zone’…
phreshone on October 7, 2009 at 3:37 PM
Liam on October 7, 2009 at 3:27 PM
Good question. If somebody is appointed Homeland Security Director and refuses to enforce the law are the guilty of aiding and abetting criminals?
Law enforcement in this nation is a sad, sad joke.
justincase on October 7, 2009 at 3:40 PM
Thanks.
Alana on October 7, 2009 at 3:40 PM
This surprises anyone? The White House has made it CLEAR, they DO NOT want U.S. Code Section 8, Article 1325 enforced. Uh, but here’s the problem for the DOJ, Maricopa County does NOT need the DOJ or the White House’s approval to enforce Federal Law and Arpaio can enforce this law anyway, I hope he does.
nelsonknows on October 7, 2009 at 3:41 PM
I know. It seems a rigged game to me. If Federal law trumps local law, then any local officer is required to enforce Federal statutes first. That means, to me, that so-called ‘open cities’ are prohibited from being open because of INS regulations as enacted by Congress.
Liam on October 7, 2009 at 3:43 PM
DHS has NO authority to prevent Maricopa County from enforcing U.S. Code. This is a joke folks.
nelsonknows on October 7, 2009 at 3:44 PM
All this does is increase Sheriff Joe’s public profile, and now he gets to go on TV and accuse the Obama administration of turning its back on border security at a time when Obama is hemorraging public goodwill on a dozen other issues.
Go Joe go! He should keep doing what he’s doing and dare Janet Napoleon and Eric Holder to arrest him.
Bonus nugget: Lefties appearing opposite Arpaio on TV will say that the 85% or so of Americans who support strong border security are all raaaaaaaaaaaaacists!
Mike D. on October 7, 2009 at 3:50 PM
We would have this problem if they had listened to me and put land mines along both borders.
Jeff from WI on October 7, 2009 at 3:51 PM
wouldn’t I meant…LOL
Jeff from WI on October 7, 2009 at 3:51 PM
The UN has declared mines ‘bad’ (except when the Soviets mined toys in Afghanistan).
Go report yourself to Obama.
Liam on October 7, 2009 at 3:54 PM
Arpaio is full of sh*t. He talks a tough game, but in reality he’s just a politician. A friend of mine who works in law enforcement in Arizona has told me how effed up he’s making things for cops, especially those who work in the prison system. Don’t believe the hype.
NorthernCross on October 7, 2009 at 3:57 PM
Jeff from WI on October 7, 2009 at 3:51 PM
I used to advocate putting paint mines out in droves, with paint that was UV-sensitive. Shine a blacklight on someone and “if they glow, back they go”.
But that was back in my earlier years when I thought there was enough will in law enforcement to actually detect and deport the hordes of illiterate 3rd-word disease vectors tiptoeing across the border.
Dark-Star on October 7, 2009 at 3:57 PM
My husband’s aunt lives in Phoenix and was visiting here last year when Sheriff Joe’s name came up in conversation. I commented that I thought he was great in the way he handles his citizens who must serve a little time in his jurisdiction. (He makes them sleep in tents and actually work for their room and board).
Our aunt said she thought Sheriff Joe was really cruel to people and she did not like him at all, (she is obviously a lib, most of the people love him). She said had a male friend who had gotten a DWI and was sentenced to 3 months in jail, weekends only. He had complained that they were forced to sleep outside in tents and that it was “so mean, because it was cold out there”. Okay guys, we are talking Phoenix here, and their average low temperature in January is in the forties, so it’s not that cold!
If our military can sleep outside in extreme temperatures, law breakers in Phoenix should be able to handle it on weekends. Libs are such wimps and Joe Arpaio is great!
Susanboo on October 7, 2009 at 4:04 PM
This is primarily a political move.
I assume the laws are similar everywhere. Here in MA, for example, a state trooper can’t arrest someone just for being here illegally. He can pull over the unregistered, uninsured car (hopefully before some illegal jackass hurts someone or damages property – because they are driving drunk), but he can’t haul them off to jail just for being an illegal POS. There has to be some other crime involved.
So, the DHS grants junior G-man badges to some local law enforcement to make it look like they are doing something to combat the influx of worthless, disease carrying unskilled turds who come here to leech off the system.
The sherrif wasn’t actually supposed to do anything, that’s not how the government (outside the military) operates.
reaganaut on October 7, 2009 at 4:05 PM
Good point!
BTW, it’s not “enforcing fed policy” It’s enforcing fed LAW.
Specifically Federal crimes. More Specifically Title 18 of the United States Code
Aside from immigration, Title 18 also covers kidnapping, Bank robbery, drug-related federal offenses, the list is huge.
Chapter 2: Aircraft and Motor Vehicles
Chapter 3: Animals, Birds, Fish, and Plants
Chapter 5: Arson
Chapter 7: Assault
Thru
·
· Chapter 102: Riots
· Chapter 103: Robbery and Burglary
· Chapter 105: Sabotage
·
· Chapter 109: Searches and Seizures
· Chapter 109a: Sexual Abuse
· Chapter 110: Sexual Exploitation and Other Abuse of Children
· Chapter 110a: Domestic Violence and Stalking
·
· Chapter 113: Stolen Property
· Chapter 113a: Telemarketing Fraud
· Chapter 113b: Terrorism
· Chapter 113c: Torture
· Chapter 114: Trafficking in Contraband Cigarettes
· Chapter 115: Treason, Sedition, and Subversive Activities
· Chapter 117: Transportation for Illegal Sexual Activity and Related Crimes
·
· Chapter 119: Wire and Electronic Communications Interception and Interception of Oral Communications
Chapter 123: Prohibition on Release and Use of Certain Personal Information from State Motor Vehicle Records
Lets ensure PD’s and Sheriff department are not burdened by enforcing all these fed LAWS!
Good idea eh!
DSchoen on October 7, 2009 at 4:06 PM
The result of a cushy life, really. I find it impossible to take seriously the complaints of college kids whose dads are paying for their school. (note I refuse to use the term ‘education’)
Liam on October 7, 2009 at 4:08 PM
Back in my youth, I remember being cornered in the lunchroom of the factory.
The message? You’re working too hard. It makes the rest of us look bad. Slow down or else.
Sounds like it’s still happening.
platypus on October 7, 2009 at 4:09 PM
That’s insane! An illegal is violating Federal law!
I must be really behind the times, for I don’t get this.
Liam on October 7, 2009 at 4:12 PM
Union shop, right? I’ve been through the same thing though far more gently.
Liam on October 7, 2009 at 4:13 PM
Sheriff Arpaio gets re-elected because he gets results. Our conservative relatives in Phoenix love him. It’s just the lefties that scream and whine about his methods.
The crime problems in Phoenix are due to Mexico and the drug lords that come across the border, that our federal law enforcement are not allowed to stop. If the Feds would enforce the laws, it would solve the problem. Joe is trying to enforce them, but Janet and the Feds won’t let him.
Susanboo on October 7, 2009 at 4:14 PM
Heh – that happened to me when I was 18 and working as a spare for a Union trucking company.
One of those “teachable moments” I have always carried with me.
That company went out of business not long after, I wonder why.
reaganaut on October 7, 2009 at 4:14 PM
This is personal. The former AZ governor in charge of Homeland Security now was feuding with Apraio back when she was governor.
This petty politics that really endangers national security enfuriates me. This obama administration needs to be neutered as soon as possible and a new Congress needs to withhold funds from every government entity that is an illegal alien “sanctuary”.
karenhasfreedom on October 7, 2009 at 4:20 PM
Yep. Well they could for a while (about a month)
Romney fought to get them the right to arrest illegals, and it finally passed, but Free ‘em all Deval rescinded it when he took office.
reaganaut on October 7, 2009 at 4:21 PM
Unions seem to have become obsolete, I think. They formed in the 30s and got everything they wanted. Yet they still exist though long ago they became an anachronism.
Liam on October 7, 2009 at 4:22 PM
Yep, union shop. Right about that ‘teachable’ moment.
That’s what’s wrong with Duh Won – he has never had any teachable moments which is why he says and does such stupid crap. He doesn’t know.
I wouldn’t go bar hopping with him – he’d run off at the mouth even though he couldn’t read the room. A bunch of guys would kick my a$$ for being dumb enough to hang with such a dim bulb.
platypus on October 7, 2009 at 4:23 PM
Mmm, Mmm, Mmm,
Barack Hussein Obama,
Illegal votes he tries to buy-o,
By smacking down Joe Arpaio.
BirdEye on October 7, 2009 at 4:23 PM
If you’re doing too good of a job, especially interior enforcement, DHS will shut you down.
HornetSting on October 7, 2009 at 4:24 PM
Secession is seeming the best way to go, since Washington is no longer doing its job. DC is an interference more and more.
I tell you, the instant AZ or TX secede, I’m getting a passport and moving.
Liam on October 7, 2009 at 4:25 PM
Ya, I think Unions are the ultimate ‘slippery slope’ argument.
reaganaut on October 7, 2009 at 4:26 PM
Don’t let Texas Governor Rick Perry fool you……Austin, capital city of Texas and home of the Governor’s house, is a sanctuary city…so is Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Corpus Christi, and most of the Rio Grande Valley.
HornetSting on October 7, 2009 at 4:27 PM
So, the rights and safety of American citizens is not as important as protecting the nonexistant rights of illegal aliens acting illegally.
kingsjester on October 7, 2009 at 4:27 PM
Then AZ, where I want to move anyway.
Liam on October 7, 2009 at 4:30 PM
Exactly; you got it!
No need for re-education camp for you!
Now, send a check for 75% of your income (after duly-paid taxes of course), and you’re in.
Liam on October 7, 2009 at 4:33 PM
Hey there fellow Mike! Ya know, it might be really interesting to see if some federal agent were to attempt to enforce any sort of restrictions on an elected county Sheriff. In actuallity, the Sheriff and local authorities would most likely be able to convene a Grand Jury on the spot, and arrest the federal agent for interfering with a police officer, and then issue arrest warrants for anyone who had sent the agent there for that purpose. Granted, convictions might later be overturned on appeal to outside courts, but that could take years, and then only after some major embarrasment for the feds, and more than a few meals of cheap bologna in the local jail.
MikeA on October 7, 2009 at 4:33 PM
You knew this was coming. But no less sickening because of it. Each day brings a fresh new hell from these Obama goblins. Where is Michael Steele?
rrpjr on October 7, 2009 at 4:34 PM
Maybe soon to be found shot dead along a NJ highway?
Liam on October 7, 2009 at 4:36 PM
Civil rights! It’s the fixation with race and color that drives it.
I could provide a lot of anecdotes, but most recently I know a Polish immigrant (who worked 2 jobs, owned a home, paid taxes, insurance, etc…) who was deported because his Mom made some mistake with the paperwork to extend his visa (that she didn’t quite understand). I’m sure the taxpayers fund hundreds of Spanish translators, but the Polish translator was probably on vacation that week.
So, now a roofing company is out a skilled and trained worker, and he has to spend a couple years swimming in red tape. Meanwhile, I can drive around town and point out multi-family homes filled with illegal Mexican immigrants (filled beyond fire-codes and straining the sewer system), but hey, this is MA.
reaganaut on October 7, 2009 at 4:37 PM
There must be a cocktail party somewhere in DC.
platypus on October 7, 2009 at 4:38 PM
I bet they found almost 100% of those arrested are non-Caucasian – he must be a racist!
In a related note, I think it is high time to investigate the Salt Lake City PD for anti-Mormon profiling – they make up a tiny fraction of the country’s population and almost all of SLCPD’s arrests. The horror!
18-1 on October 7, 2009 at 4:41 PM
That’s the problem…you have Joe, who is trying to do his job and keep his people safe, then you have the mayor of Phoenix trying to stop him.
Same problem with Texas…you have many citizens of Texas wanting their localities to rid the state of illegals, but, for example, Bexar County, San Antonio, they are not allowed to arrest illegals…my parents have called every day, with the loud music, 2 am, the big trucks with basing music, driving around at all hours of night…..and NOTHING gets done.
It’s going to have to be a grassroots movement.
Our elected officials are too scared to do anything about the problem.
Texas is heaven…but we need to take out the trash.
HornetSting on October 7, 2009 at 4:43 PM
FWIW, where I work in local law enforcement, we deal with illegals everyday but do nothing about their immigration status.
Why it is, I dunno but I do know that just the way it is. :(
RedNewEnglander on October 7, 2009 at 4:45 PM
What, you think we are a country of laws or something? Race, class, and the ever popular “don’t you know who I f***ing am?” are the new benchmarks for deciding what rules apply.
18-1 on October 7, 2009 at 4:45 PM
Mmm, Mmm, Mmm,
Barack Hussein Obama,
He coaxes them over to illegally cross,
While law enforcement is at a loss.
BirdEye on October 7, 2009 at 4:54 PM
Decertified by Feds (Napolitano) for enforcing federal law? This is as insane as it is absurd. Oh wait, in Obamaland, enforcement means negligence.
BottomLine5 on October 7, 2009 at 4:56 PM
The Feds get who they want to get. The libs in power–all white, all limousine liberals–are unashamedly using minorities to win and sustain their own power.
All the libs who claim to hate wealth are wealthy themselves. Can you imagine a Kennedy giving up all the family’s money to feed the poor?
Can you imagine Barbie Streisand opening her multi-million dollar island to house the homeless if even for a night?
Can you picture Michael Moore giving away all he has to feed the hungry, let alone get a new baseball cap?
Martin Sheen, I think it was, once slept on a subway grate to show his ‘solidarity’ with the homeless. How many of those people did he feed from his own pocket?
Will Obama give up his annual half-million dollar salary as POTUS to feed the hungry and clothe the naked?
Will The Clintons do the same, and NOT claim their ‘charity’ as tax deductions?
Will Robert Byrd EVER apologize to black Americans for being a KKK recruiter? Nine of my ancestors died at Andersonville so I, too, demand apology from Byrd for his racist pro-slavery idiocy that cost nine of my family’s lives.
Will John Kerry ever apologize to his fellow sailors for his action in Nam that put their lives at risk?
Will Dan Rather shut down his appeals for the truth even he knows about those fake documents he tried pushing on an American too savvy at the time to miss his lies?
I can go on and on. Note, you libs, all the abusers of power are WHITE. How do you live with yourselves in the face of all that? The very thing you claim to hate is hardest done by the same kind of people you claim to hate.
Liam on October 7, 2009 at 4:58 PM
Mmm, Mmm, Mmm,
Barack Hussein Obama,
Right is wrong and wrong is right,
Obama relishes in America’s plight.
BirdEye on October 7, 2009 at 4:59 PM
I love TX! Was stationed there years ago, outside San Antonio.
You’re Texan. You’ll fix it.
Liam on October 7, 2009 at 5:02 PM
We just have to change the playing field. I think it’s a lie that ‘progressives’ are the top for society and humanity.
They can be defeated.
Liam on October 7, 2009 at 5:04 PM
I’m transplanted to NM….but, yes, I think the people are going to get angry and light some fires….
HornetSting on October 7, 2009 at 5:06 PM
It’s people like Arpaio that open conservatives up to charges of racism. His “enthusiasm” to protect the border could easily be interpreted as animus toward Mexicans.
Best way to deal with illegal immigration – make it easy for low skill workers to come here legally. The reason Mexicans don’t immigrate legally is because it takes years and they don’t have the resources. As long as it’s easier to come here illegally, that’s what people will do.
Enrique on October 7, 2009 at 5:08 PM
I live in Maricopa County and I can tell you Sheriff Joe is a real piece of work. He will stop short of nothing for his next photo op. He abuses and misuses the power of his office and costs taxpayers millions of dollars every year in lawsuits through mistreatment of prisoners, poor jail conditions and jail deaths. When he does his illegal alien sweeps he arrests people first, checks their ID last. Some arrested are American born citizens who just happen to have a certain color of skin. During one raid, Sheriff Joe used an enormous amount of resources – over 100 deputies, swat team, helicopter and tank – to stake out and arrest ONE illegal alien employed by a cleaning service cleaning Mesa City hall. Joe knew before hand there were no others on the work crew but proceeded with his extremely expensive sweep anyway. When Mesa PD asked Joe what he was doing in a Mesa city park prior to the raid, why he had all the personnel assembled there, Joe lied and said it was “practice”. Sheriff Joe didn’t like the story the New Times newspaper ran about him a few years back and tried to force them to release the name and IP of everyone that was registered on their website. He wanted to know what website they visited before the New Times and where they went when they existed. The New Times refused, citing privacy laws. To wield his power and show he meant business he had the editors arrested in the early morning hours. Charges later were dropped. This past Sunday the Arizona Republic reported that Sheriff Joe is spending over half of his $1.1 million budget of RICO funds to lease vehicles for some of his employees to drive to and from work, a controversial and perhaps illegal use of funds. Meanwhile, he’s forcing over 1000 employees to take a 7 day furlough because of budget shortfalls. And when the Maricopa County Supervisors told him last year they were cutting his budget, he threated to have them investigated. He recently re-arrested a man on trumped up charges when the case was dismissed for lack of evidence. Now he can’t find a prosecutor anywhere in AZ to take his the case. In the beginning he was wildly popular and his efforts to cut prison costs were welcome. But he’s costing taxpayers so much that we can’t afford any more of his shenanagins.
GrannySunni on October 7, 2009 at 5:10 PM
You don’t reward lawlessness.
This is what you do. You jail employers of illegal aliens. You stop paying benefits to illegal aliens.
No money. No illegals. They go home.
Then, they can stand in line like everyone else and wait their turn.
Proximity to the US border should not give rewards to law breakers.
HornetSting on October 7, 2009 at 5:22 PM
You can interpret that as you wish, which is racist aganst Anglos.
NO ONE has right to illegally enter a country, no matter the reason or sentiment.
If those here illegally can save the high cost of coming here illegally, they can also save to do it properly and by law.
It’s NOT somehow racist to require people to come here by our laws. I don’t give a crap from where people come. My maternal grandparents came here in 1912 through Ellis Island.
My first girlfriend, from Columbia, came here legally with hr family.
It’s a crock of BS, and racial on YOUR part, to try selling some notion that going through due process is somehow racist.
You want a result. Too bad–process is what counts. I’ll respect, and want here, a Latino who got here with a legal visa over someone who hid in a truck going across the border.
It’s not prejudice against a person’s ethnicity among us conservatives. It’s a matter of respect for our laws as a free people.
If you look deeper, getting over your assumed prejudices, you’ll find conservatives are far more accepting of minorities than liberals. We believe immigrants are able to take care of their own.
Liberals think you’re unable to achieve without their ‘help’–the ‘soft’ bigotry of low expectations.
Liam on October 7, 2009 at 5:25 PM
Isn’t affirmative action “racial profiling”? The House “HealthCare” bill uses racial profiling, handing out bennies to nurses based on their race under the guise of being “culturally sensitive”.
Buy Danish on October 7, 2009 at 5:28 PM
This only shows what a complete idiot Napolitano is–she could conceivably use federal authority to prevent a local official from interfering in federal actions, but she and Obaminable haven’t a shred of authority to prevent local law enforcement in a federal vacuum–which is exactly where Arpaio is working. Let’s go Joe! Wish my sheriff had 1/4 your cojones.
As to crime stats, these reports are laughable–anyone who lives in a city and is paying any attention at all knows that city PDs routinely cook their stats by downgrading incidents to non-reportable statuses. An armed robbery becomes an assault and simple theft, a murder becomes an unclassified death. They can’t sweep everything under the rug, but where most crime happens and “no snitchin’” culture rules, they can call it anything they want. Nobody believes them or respects them anyway. Otherwise, almost every city administration and particularly chiefs of police would be gone on an annual, if not more frequent basis.
The greatest shame is that DHS is headed by such an absolute idiot moonbat who couldn’t even competently govern a state that is mostly desert and federal reservations. She, like most of Obaminable’s appointees, should be removed for malfeasance and required to refund the salaries and expense charges wasted on them while in office.
Ay Uaxe on October 7, 2009 at 5:45 PM
We could use a whole lot, just like Joe, up here north of the 49th – please.
Then again, so can you – wtf? I ask. . . .
karra on October 7, 2009 at 5:46 PM
There are lies, damn lies, and statistics.
csdeven on October 7, 2009 at 5:47 PM
Well, almost completely off topic, anyone listening to Jackie Mason on Howie Carr right now?
Funny stuff, I might have to buy a ticket to his show in Boston.
reaganaut on October 7, 2009 at 5:47 PM
Hand out white lab coats to all the illegals and invite them to a photo op in the Rose Garden with O-blah-blah.
Instant doctors. Problem solved!
GrannyDee on October 7, 2009 at 5:48 PM
Mother Teresa, I mean Obama, will absolve all illegal aliens by giving them voting rights in 2012
Cybergeezer on October 7, 2009 at 6:12 PM
Immigration enforcement is a federal matter? Counterfeiting and federal tax evasion are federal responsibilities. Yet local authorities happily arrest counterfeiters and hand them over to the Secret Service. They happily inform the IRS when they bust someone with loads of cash for the type of crime suggesting tax evasion, such as pimps and drug dealers. The feds are happy to get the help.
kd6rxl on October 7, 2009 at 6:15 PM
As goes Sheriff Joe Arpaio, so goes America.
Gob on October 7, 2009 at 6:16 PM
Do you have any links that back up your assertions or are you going to do what all lib trolls do and tell me that you are “just going from memory?” As one libtard troll demanded from another poster this morning, “Do you have creditable links for your assertions?”
No links, no acceptance.
It’s that simple.
ExpressoBold on October 7, 2009 at 6:56 PM
I don’t think this tramp realizes that Joe isn’t a spring chicken, and this isn’t his first picnic. He’s retired from federal law enforcement service. She’d better hope that her sh t is wired tight.
Sam_I_Am on October 7, 2009 at 6:58 PM
Kingsjester – Illegal aliens do not have non-existent rights. Either a right exists or it doesn’t. If it is non-existent, that means it doesn’t exist. Our Constitution was based on rights that were endowed by the creator; they exist, even for illegal aliens. They exist for us, because we will kick the a$$ of anyone who tries to make them non-existent. However, if they are illegal in this country, we may, but are not obligated, to use our resources to enforce those tights for them. That is up to them or the government of the country from whence they came. If you don’t believe that everybody is entitled to the inalienable rights bestowed by the creator, then you don’t believe in the founding principles of Constitution and this country.
Old Country Boy on October 7, 2009 at 7:11 PM
George Orwell was only off by 25 years.
viking01 on October 7, 2009 at 7:22 PM
It is pretty freaking pathetic when the executive branch of the federal government not only won’t carry out, but actively bans, execution of one of its few explicitly stated constitutional duties.
Perhaps a remedial civics course is in order for Madam Secretary and Prez Bambi?
SimplyKimberly on October 7, 2009 at 7:25 PM
Clearly no facts. There were more than 10 arrested, 9 disappeared WORKING IN A GOVERNMENT BUILDING. In addition, Arpaio used about 30 deputies and 30 Posse (which is essentially free labor).
I’ve also been to the tents (not as an inmate), and you do have to be convicted to serve time in the tents. Yes, it hot and can get dusty, but it’s clean, and no one looks like they’re about to die.
JackofNoTrades on October 7, 2009 at 7:39 PM
Bingo! ACORN is kind of busy right now, so the administration has to go with Plan B to round up some more votes for the Democrats.
yoda on October 7, 2009 at 7:49 PM
Illegal immigration is against the law, but so is racial profiling. If the sheriff is engaging in racial profiling then he is breaking the law. Judging from the news story, the patrols are racial profiling and are thus illegal. You can say that you don’t mind racial profiling all you want, lots of liberals like illegal immigration and that doesn’t make it legal.
HeroesforGhosts on October 7, 2009 at 8:12 PM
I’m sure that if Maricopa County all of a sudden had an influx of Swedes that were there illegally, Joe would end up netting them in his satuation ops. Look We all know the score here. If the Sheriff sets up a check point and stops every vehicle, and checks for DUI, Seat Bealts and drivers license, he is going to end up getting more hits of the license issue in that county from illegal aliens. That is not because he stops illegal aliens from having driver’s licenses. It’s because so many of them don’t. The point is that you don’t HAVE to profile to catch them. They profile themselves.
MikeA on October 7, 2009 at 8:23 PM
There is no evidence of racial profiling contrary to all the unsupported statements. All races have been caught up in the sweeps due to broken tail lights, broken windshields, and other infractions. Quite of few of them, legal and illegal, had warrants.
It should be pointed out that illegal Chinese aliens were apprehended a couple of weeks ago.
JackofNoTrades on October 7, 2009 at 8:33 PM
You think he’ll get that far? I doubt if he’ll make it past the nearest concret pour. But that’s just me.
Friendly21 on October 7, 2009 at 8:38 PM
So, Jack of No Trades and ExpressoBold, you can state your own comments without providing links or facts, but dismiss my post without them? Fair is fair. Where are your links? If you took the time to ask, I would tell you I have voted for Sheriff Joe many many times. But no more. He needs to go!
Here are a few links for your reading enjoyment. I especially recommend the last one. Sorry that I don’t know yet how to make paragraphs. I joined recently when they finally opened registration but I have been reading here faithfully for a long while.
Sheriff cars paid with crime fundshttp://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/2009/10/04/20091004rico1004.html
Raid at Mesa City Hall and Libraryhttp://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/128229
ACLU Sues Sheriff Joe Arpaio for Arrest and Detention of U.S. Citizen
http://washingtonindependent.com/55686/aclu-sues-sheriff-joe-arpaio-for-arrest-and-detention-of-u-s-citizen
New Times Owners/Editors Arrested by Deputieshttp://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/99912
Breathtaking Abuse of the Constitutionhttp://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2007-10-18/news/breathtaking-abuse-of-the-constitution/
>>>This is hardly the first time — even if the scope here is breathtaking — that law enforcement attempted to use a grand jury to get at the confidential records of reporters or editors. But the contemptuousness of this troika of ambitious politicos is reflected in their attempt to target the readers of New Times.
In a grandiose insult to the Constitution, Arpaio, Thomas, and Wilenchik used the grand jury to subpoena the online profiles of anyone who viewed four specific articles on the sheriff.
The pertinent section of the secret grand jury subpoena reads, in part: “All internet web site information for the Phoenix New Times internet site related to the web pages . . . [four specific articles on the sheriff]. The information should include, but not be limited to: The Internet Protocol addresses of any and all visitors to each page of . . . [four specific articles on the sheriff]. . .”
Energized, perhaps, by this mugging of Constitutional safeguards, Arpaio, Thomas, and Wilenchik then shot the moon. The grand jury subpoena also demands Web site profiles of anyone and everyone who visited New Times online over the past two and a half years, not merely readers who viewed articles on the sheriff.
The subpoena demands: “Any and all documents containing a compilation of aggregate information about the Phoenix New Times Web site created or prepared from January 1, 2004 to the present, including but not limited to :
A) which pages visitors access or visit on the Phoenix New Times website;
B) the total number of visitors to the Phoenix New Times website;
C) information obtained from ‘cookies,’ including, but not limited to, authentication, tracking, and maintaining specific information about users (site preferences, contents of electronic shopping carts, etc.);
D) the Internet Protocol address of anyone that accesses the Phoenix New Times website from January 1, 2004 to the present;
E) the domain name of anyone that has accessed the Phoenix New Times website from January 1, 2004 to the present;
F) the website a user visited prior to coming to the Phoenix New Times website;
G) the date and time of a visit by a user to the Phoenix New Times website;
H) the type of browser used by each visitor (Internet Explorer, Mozilla, Netscape Navigator, Firefox, etc.) to the Phoenix New Times website; and
I) the type of operating system used by each visitor to the Phoenix New Times website.”
Special prosecutor Wilenchik wants this information on each and every New Times reader online since 2004.<<<
GrannySunni on October 7, 2009 at 8:56 PM
I hope Joe shoves Janet’s decertification up her tight a$$.
MsUnderestimated on October 7, 2009 at 9:00 PM
So why does he keep getting re-elected?
Demographics of Maricopa County are higher educated and higher earning than the average Americans.
The people of Maricopa County voted Obama 53% of the popular vote, … Maricopa residents voted 55.5 percent in favor of electing Joe Arpaio to his fifth term!
Sounds like the people believe he’s doing a good job. Oh and 24.9% of the population are Latino.
DSchoen on October 7, 2009 at 9:52 PM
Wow… I feel so helpless.
It seems the only people in the country we have that can do anything about the atrocities the democrats are up to are Hannity and Beck.
Problem is, they have to rile up a sufficient amount of people every time on every stinking issue to get each one stopped. Then 6 months down the road the same issue appears again!
scotash on October 7, 2009 at 9:53 PM
This sheriff is a hero. A true American. He and a lot of other people are fighting the fight that RINO’s and other Pubs won’t.
JellyToast on October 7, 2009 at 9:58 PM
Who in the Bush admin said he did? Name them. If you can’t just admit you’re a parrot.
Well I can give you a thousand quotes from all the dems and repubs 1998 thru 2003 that state as fact he had them.
Obviously you never read the Authorization to use force in Iraq. WMD’s was one of MANY reasons given. It wasn’t the primary reason.
Do you recall the 400 times our aircraft were targeted and/or shot at in the 4 months before we invaded?
1 is a valid reason, 1 is an act of war.
DSchoen on October 7, 2009 at 10:04 PM
Joe the Sheriff for President! We need the common sense he would bring!
chickasaw42 on October 7, 2009 at 10:11 PM
If you can make a herbicide, an insecticide you can make a biocide it’s not that difficult.
You could find all the stuff at you local home depot.
Dumb a$$
DSchoen on October 7, 2009 at 10:17 PM
Sheriff Joe don’t need no stinking certification from no ugly bulldyke airhead like Napolitano.
infidel4life on October 7, 2009 at 10:20 PM
Granny, you know very well, if you have been reading the comments here for the last month or so that I provide links on all quoted articles and contentious issues. I made no assertions in this thread but you did. I expected to see the original comment that you made restated with links.
What you provided were headlines entire articles with no context. Here’s an example of what I hoped you would do:
See? I took your quote from your original comment and linked it to the Arizona Republic hit job on Sheriff Joe Arpaio wherein they state that “The money comes from cash and assets seized primarily during drug investigations. Under the state and federal Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act, or RICO, police agencies and prosecutors can keep confiscated cash and sell assets for money to be used for gang prevention, substance-abuse education and fighting numerous crimes.
Although there are guidelines, law-enforcement agencies have wide discretion in spending the money, and there is little oversight. Many in Arizona use RICO money to enhance investigations, buy equipment or pay for additional officers.”
And if I were going to link an article from the ethically challenged Phoenix New Times which launched itself “in 1970 in reaction to the war in Vietnam.” to provide support for an assertion against Sheriff Arpaio, I would be darn sure there were no hidden bombs in the reference. Look at the following. Calling into question everyone’s ethics except their own, Lacey and Larkin declared the lawful actions of the sheriff and prosecutors unconstitutional while excusing a “seemingly picayune matter of Sheriff Arpaio’s home address getting printed at the bottom of an opinion column on our Internet site.”
Let me repeat that for you: the newspaper editors printed the sheriff’s HOME ADDRESS on their internet site, available for any whacked out drug-cartel or human trafficking hit squad to see and use for any number of nefarious purposes.
Why didn’t you mention that little item in your list of complaints or your original comment?
This link stuff is pretty good, huh?
ExpressoBold on October 7, 2009 at 10:51 PM
Does it appear that this administration is making it easier for all of America’s enemies to overrun her? It looks that way to me.
baldilocks on October 7, 2009 at 10:51 PM
Just how much crap are the DC politicians going to dump on us before we rise up with torches and pitchforks?
They don’t enforce any laws that they don’t like, spending and debt going through the roof, losing wars that we should win, forcing health care on us, amnesty, cap and tax, no energy independence, etc.
We are either going to just cave in to this stuff and become slaves to a dictator or there will be a real uprising coming.
cjs1943 on October 7, 2009 at 10:55 PM
The voice I want to hear? Sarah Palin. She’s steered clear of this issue far too long. DD
Darvin Dowdy on October 7, 2009 at 10:57 PM
Its a true joy to read the quality of commenting on this site, Im pretty sure some here could go toe to toe with any of the dolts from DC. Keep on hammering away!
TheVer on October 7, 2009 at 10:57 PM
Thanks for the links, Granny, although I expected you to lnk them to your original comment. No matter, though, because you forgot to mention that the ethically challenged Lacey & Larkin printed Sheriff Joe’s HOME ADRESS for public consumption. See this quote from this duo of libduds
The seemingly picayune matter of Sheriff Arpaio’s home address getting printed at the bottom of an opinion column on our Internet site —…
Let me repeat: Lacey and Larkin of the Phoenix news printed Sheriff Joe’s HOME ADDRESS so that it was available for use by narco-gang and human trafficking hit-squads.
This linking references stuff is pretty good, huh, Granny?
ExpressoBold on October 7, 2009 at 11:05 PM
btw, Granny, you wouldn’t want to print your IP address would you? Seems if Sheriff Joe has his home address printed, maybe your IP address could back up your assertion you live there.
(Watch her go out and find a class C assigned to that area.)
itsspideyman on October 7, 2009 at 11:56 PM
Not only what ExpressoBold said at 11:05 PM, but
1. What part of I went to tent city and the jails don’t you understand?
2. Illegal Chinese migrants arrested by the Sheriff
3. Mesa City Hall raid. There were more than 1 illegal arrested and the arrested the contracting company and illegal aliens that worked at City Hall. Of course the mayor and Gascon (the worst Chief of Police, he had to leave LA because the rank and file hated him) were pissed, Arpaio upstaged them.
4. Contrary to your article on the vehicles purchased with RICO funds, it was legal and the vehicles are needed. He cannot use the money to fund payroll.
5. As to the Mora lawsuit, Joe hasn’t said anything about it yet, just that the detentions were necessary. I can think of a lot of reasons they were detained, but I will not comment on the reasons.
6. The New Times staff are exactly what the accuse Arpaio of. Not only did they publish Arpaio’s address, but they decided to attacke the Posse, for no reason other than the some of the Posses assist the Department with sweeps.
JackofNoTrades on October 8, 2009 at 12:11 AM
A+
Johan Klaus on October 8, 2009 at 1:23 AM
Homeland Security decertifies Arizona sheriff for securing homeland. Nice.
jgapinoy on October 8, 2009 at 1:23 AM
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