HCAN: Insurance offices now “crime scenes”
posted at 2:20 pm on October 7, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
If anyone doubted that the pressure to pass ObamaCare comes from people openly hostile to insurers and who want to use a public option to put them out of business, look no further than the activists at Health Care for America Now (HCAN). The lobbyist-funded Astroturfers took their protests to the headquarters of health insurers Monday, including UnitedHealth Group of Minnetonka, MN, where they declared insurance offices to be “crime scenes” and blocked the doors. The numbers may be small, but the insurers are backpedaling nonetheless:
The six people in Monday’s protest were blocking the doors to the Minnetonka headquarters of insurer UnitedHealth Group.
On Tuesday, thousands rallied in California in front of Anthem Blue Cross offices in cities from San Francisco down the coast to San Diego.
The Health Care for America Now group is organizing similar protests in front of offices of major private health insurance companies to officially declare them a crime scene.
Health Care for America Now is making a strong push for federal healthcare reform legislation to include the so-called public option, which would add government-supported medical insurance into the mix available for the currently uninsured.
Six people? That would be six whole people, right? Actually, those were just the demonstrators who got arrested, but it still only drew 110 people:
About 110 protesters sang and spoke about the need to change the way health care is organized and financed in the United States, and said that insurers such as UnitedHealth are making people sicker because the system doesn’t offer proper coverage for many patients.
They cited what they said is UnitedHealth’s practice of “denying care and claims in order to generate record profits.”
The demonstration was organized by a group called Health Care for America Now in Minnesota, a coalition of labor unions, faith groups and activist organizations, including Education Minnesota, the AFL-CIO and Isaiah, a social justice group that includes more than 60 congregations.
Actually, HCAN is a well-funded Astroturf group that gets $40 million from lobbyists. Even with that kind of funding and “more than 60 congregations,” they could only turn out less than two people from each of those churches. That’s terribly unimpressive, especially in a populist region like the Upper Midwest, and a liberal metropolis like the Twin Cities.
This gives insurers an opportunity to point out the fringe nature of these policies. According to an internal e-mail provided to Hot Air, however, it appears that six people are all it takes to put UnitedHealth on the defensive:
UnitedHealth Group strongly supports health care reform and making coverage available to all Americans. As our nation continues to debate how to best modernize our health care system, we must be respectful of individuals’ varying perspectives on this important issue.
On Thursday, Oct. 8 at 4:30 p.m., we are expecting a group to assemble outside our office to voice their views about the health insurance industry. While there may be rhetoric that attacks our industry and mischaracterizes our contribution to the health care system, we recognize that everyone has a right to express their opinion as long as it’s done respectfully.
We would like to provide a few general reminders:
- Employees are asked to use their ID and access badge to enter the building on Thursday;
- Please do not allow anyone to “piggyback” into the building behind you, and do not admit individuals without an employee ID;
- Be thoughtful about who you talk to; idle comments and speculation can be misrepresented by the media, demonstrators and others;
- Do not make any statements to the media or other individuals who approach you for comment — all media inquiries can be directed to Daryl Richard at ext. 2-5795;
- Be alert and report any suspicious activity to our on-site security staff at ext. 2-8000.
We are not letting these types of activities divert us from our mission of helping people live healthier lives, or from our constructive role in tackling the complex task of achieving sustainable changes in our health care system and giving more people the access to the care they need and deserve. The passion you bring to your job everyday continues to make a difference in the lives of the millions of Americans we serve, and we thank you for that hard work.
That’s pretty much SOP for both security and PR, and at least the former is quite understandable. Instead of asking employees to remain passive and silent in the face of these slanders and absurdities, however, UnitedHealth should be creating opportunities for its employees to answer back with facts. UnitedHealth should part with its bunker mentality, which cedes the media ground to the nutcases, and start fighting for its life in the court of public opinion. Because if they continue to avoid the public debate, they won’t remain in business for very much longer.









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Branch Rickey on October 7, 2009 at 2:23 PM
The insurance companies are not our friends… the drug companies are not our friends… just look at what they’re doing in the face of pressure from Obama… why do we continue to defend them?
ninjapirate on October 7, 2009 at 2:23 PM
Obama and the Dems do realize that average everyday Americans are employed by these evil insurance and pharmaceutical companies, right? If they go under, that’s a lot of jobs that will be lost.
Doughboy on October 7, 2009 at 2:25 PM
That might get a finger bitten off, which would just add to health care costs.
BadgerHawk on October 7, 2009 at 2:25 PM
Government? Government is your friend. You big, warm, cuddly snuggle buddy.
Rocks on October 7, 2009 at 2:26 PM
I didn’t realize there were this many rocks, for these lunatics to crawl out from under. Anyone up for skipping some stones? Muwhahahahaha
capejasmine on October 7, 2009 at 2:28 PM
But look at all of the unionized government jobs that will take their place. /sarc
farright on October 7, 2009 at 2:28 PM
Here’s what I don’t get—How the frickedy frackedy froop is it supposed to be better for a government bureaucrat to determine health coverage than a bureaucrat who works for a private insurer? We are still talking bureaucrats? Why does the nature of who signs their paycheck make a whit of difference?
Sekhmet on October 7, 2009 at 2:28 PM
Oh, I get it. They can actually COUNT small numbers of protesters. It’s the big rallies that give them fits.
UnderstandingisPower on October 7, 2009 at 2:28 PM
Which gives new meaning to the phrase….with friends like these, who needs enemies?
capejasmine on October 7, 2009 at 2:29 PM
Because the private insurer can go out of business if they do a lousy job. Or they can be sued. With the government, you get what you get, and if you want to complain, well…
UnderstandingisPower on October 7, 2009 at 2:30 PM
I am not snuggling with ninja. You want too?
upinak on October 7, 2009 at 2:30 PM
Off topic, but………
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/07/house-considers-resolution-oust-rangel-ways-means-committee-chair/
capejasmine on October 7, 2009 at 2:31 PM
as much as I would love that.. it probably won’t happen.
upinak on October 7, 2009 at 2:32 PM
Um, time for some counter-protests against these tools?
spmat on October 7, 2009 at 2:33 PM
First they came for the insurance companies….
Mr. D on October 7, 2009 at 2:34 PM
I think they are just trying to make sure none of them slip into the building and create a hostage situation. It may be the type of publicity you would want, Ed, but they do have a duty to keep their employees safe. Frankly, I expect the leftys will start blowing up insurance companies in the near future.
Blake on October 7, 2009 at 2:35 PM
I will paraphrase Churchill on democracy. Private health insurance is the worst system possible–except for all the others.
PattyJ on October 7, 2009 at 2:39 PM
Aren’t the people organizing these “protests” guilty of conspiracy to commit the crime of trespassing? Heck, isn’t blocking the movement of someone — particularly when they’re authorized by the property owner to be there and you’re not — a more serious crime?
I’m sick of lefties committing crimes under the cover of “protest”. I wish they would either suffer the consequences of their acts or get a taste of their own medicine.
Crawford on October 7, 2009 at 2:42 PM
Is HCAN connected to CCI, ACORN, SEIU, whatever? That’s a serious question.
Daggett on October 7, 2009 at 2:43 PM
Fun fact: Medicare refuse almost double the claims that the next highest private insurers do.
Fun fact: Private insurance companies pay our 102 dollars for every 100 dollars in premiums.
Fun fact: If government runs health care there is no one to appeal their decisions.
jukin on October 7, 2009 at 2:44 PM
Because Obama is not our friend. In fact, he is a worse enemy than the insurance or drug companies ever thought of being. And..given that most people already dislike insurance and drug companies, on a scale of one to ten, that pretty much puts Obama deeply into the minus column.
jeanie on October 7, 2009 at 2:44 PM
Because the alternative is to just let govt take over health care completely.
MarkTheGreat on October 7, 2009 at 2:45 PM
Because they’re potentially part of a free market. The reason they often act as “not our friends” is because of corruption (what they’re able to get out of government through lobbying and donations) and because of government over-regulation (what they have to do to deal with govt interference).
Notice a pattern there? Government is not the solution, it is the problem.
Daggett on October 7, 2009 at 2:45 PM
It sounds like there need to be more tea parties. We don’t want to be forgotten or for D.C. to believe that there is no longer any opposition to government interference into healthcare.
Cindy Munford on October 7, 2009 at 2:46 PM
Why is it I’m never lucky enough to be needing to enter a building blocked by people like this, or stuck in traffic because a group of dolts decided to lay in the street to protest something.
Bishop on October 7, 2009 at 2:46 PM
You joke, but that’s not farfetched. I think these idiots really believe you can keep replacing private sector jobs with government or union gigs and somehow that won’t have an adverse effect on the economy.
Doughboy on October 7, 2009 at 2:47 PM
Name a single company that is your “friend”. Is food free at the local grocery store? What about gasoline? Books, booze, clothing?
Look at all those companies producing stuff and charging for it, what bastardos.
If someone enters my shop and demands a new transmission for free, they are leaving the building by means other than their own two feet.
Bishop on October 7, 2009 at 2:49 PM
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nolapol on October 7, 2009 at 2:51 PM
Does a bear…? You know the rest.
I firmly believe HCAN is solidly in bed with — and controlled by — the same people who pull Osama Obama’s strings.
Things are getting ugly on all fronts, and will continue to get worse until we we get to the root of 99% of our problems, and that means getting the Chicago Jesus and all his mangy flock of America-hating thugs out of power.
MrScribbler on October 7, 2009 at 2:52 PM
HCAN….a sister outfit of ACORN?
I don’t doubt it.
bridgetown on October 7, 2009 at 2:54 PM
Hey, I’m looking for a six speed sequential shifter for my 993,
/s for free of coarse, my friend. /s
nolapol on October 7, 2009 at 2:54 PM
Good point.
Mr. D on October 7, 2009 at 2:55 PM
Obama ain’t yo friend neither. Remember those words, sonnyjim.
Key West Reader on October 7, 2009 at 3:01 PM
Because they came for the Jews and people said nothing.
I for one won’t stand by idly while socialists and communists attempt to destroy the system because once they do they will eventually come for me. I won’t let the innocent fall like the indifferent men of the past.
theguardianii on October 7, 2009 at 3:02 PM
Yeah, here’s the answer to my question. HCAN is part of a coalition including this short partial list of other members (the full list is actually 11 pages long, probably comprised mostly of the 300+ ACORN/CCI orgs):
# AFL-CIO
# American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME)
# American Federation of Teachers (AFT)
# Americans United for Change
# Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN)
# Campaign for America’s Future
# Communications Workers of America (CWA)
# Center for American Progress Action Fund
# Campaign for Community Change (CCC)
# International Union, United Automobile, Aerospace & Agricultural Implement Workers of America (UAW)
# MoveOn.org
# NAACP
# National Council of La Raza
# National Education Association (NEA)
# National Women’s Law Center
# Service Employees International Union (SEIU)
# United Food and Commercial Workers (UFCW)
# USAction
# Working America
Daggett on October 7, 2009 at 3:05 PM
When all of this “Organizing” pushes the public to lash out at the “Organizers” will that be reported as a crime?
When people have had it with being “Organized” and a few of the “Organizer’s” institutions are razed, how will it be reported?
rabidamerican on October 7, 2009 at 3:05 PM
The insurance companies are not our friends… the drug companies are not our friends… just look at what they’re doing in the face of pressure from Obama… why do we continue to defend them?
ninjapirate on October 7, 2009 at 2:23 PM
Dark-Star on October 7, 2009 at 3:08 PM
Even taking this at face value, how will public insurance improve on this? Public plans will have to deny claims, especially if we take Obama at his word that public plans won’t add to the deficit.
Bill Ramey on October 7, 2009 at 3:17 PM
To give you an idea of the number of people that could find themselves in the unemployment line should private insurance go away here are some numbers from the largest health insurance companies. Bear in mind these health care plans being batted around won’t take effect until after the 2012 election.
United Healthcare – 75,000
Wellpoint – 43,000
AETNA – 35,200
Humana – 25,000
CIGNA – 27,150
A total of 205,350 and that is just the 5 major insurance companies. There are hundreds of smaller ones and then of course figure in all the outside agencies that also rely on the insurance companies for some or all of their business like medical billing agencies, etc.
The attacks on the insurance companies also hide a bigger agenda by SEIU since most of the major insurance companies refuse to join the union. United Healthcare has been their favorite target but others have also had to fend off legal challenges and protests from the SEIU thugs and it has nothing to do with healthcare, but rather the power of the union.
Just A Grunt on October 7, 2009 at 3:18 PM
The “Fistgate” incident: What homosexual activists in schools do with children
Students as young as 12 given graphic instruction in bizarre homosexual sex acts by state employees
[...]
GLSEN (and Kevin Jennings) did not dispute that the recordings were genuine or that the events did not take place as we described them. Instead, they tried to get a court to ban the tape and sue us. In fact, Jennings defended the event.
But the Massachusetts Legislature wasn’t fazed. They caved in to the powerful homosexual movement. They have continued to fund GLSEN with taxpayer money. And in 2006 the Legislature wrote GLSEN into the general laws as a mandated member of the tax-supported Massachusetts Commission for GLBT Youth. This is the low opinion that our legislators have of your children
Jennings was the Executive Director of GLSEN at the time of this conference and defended it.
Conference – PART I AUDIO:
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/issues/fistgate/tape01.html
Conference – PART II AUDIO:
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/issues/fistgate/tape02.html
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/issues/fistgate/index.html
LITTLE BLACK BOOK AND MORE:
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/issues/black_book/black_book_inside.htmlhttp://
KEVIN JENNINGS BRAGGING HOW USING TRICKERY WAS EFFECTIVE IN GETTING THEIR AGENDA INTO THE SCHOOLS:
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/issues/gay_strategies/framing_the_issue.html
TOTALLY DISGUSTING!!!!!!!
Annie on October 7, 2009 at 3:23 PM
I’d like to see these people protest at a real crime scene–like where an old woman in a poor black neighborhood was murdered by the burglars who invaded her home.
How about in a white suburban neighborhood, where some drunk guy has been beating his wife and kids for years while everyone thinks he’s ‘a nice guy’ until he kills his family.
And, how about NOT protesting when such scum are about to be executed for their crimes?
Liam on October 7, 2009 at 3:39 PM
VIDEO AND DOWNLOAD:
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/gen/08b/glsen_conf_0329/index.html
Parents will be shocked at being given permission by the MA School Dept to have such a gross conference.
Annie on October 7, 2009 at 3:41 PM
Insurers are criminal, they make people sicker, they want you to die quicker to make them money.
We should drive them all out of business, or just tar & feather them before stringing them up and taking everything they own.
…
Oh, and if you want to keep your current health care, that will be available under the new plan. Nobody will force you to change. The President promised… no really.
I dunno, I’m see some confusion in the message. Its a bit worrisome.
gekkobear on October 7, 2009 at 3:41 PM
A ludicrous statement, whoever made it. If that’s sarcasm, I get the point and love it!
The longer someone lives and is paying premiums, the more money the insurer makes. It’s anti-capitalism to want people to die. The dead may well invariably vote Democrat, but they don’t pay premiums to keep ‘evil’ insurance companies alive.
Liam on October 7, 2009 at 3:48 PM
BTW the insurance plan with highest rate of denied or rejected claims is….. wait for it.
The government one – Medicare which rejects about 7% of all claims compared to about 4% for it’s next closet rival. I will try to find the link or you can just search for it.
Just A Grunt on October 7, 2009 at 3:53 PM
Have they no police dogs and fire hoses turned on to sweep this vermin from the door ways?
Jeff from WI on October 7, 2009 at 3:54 PM
Warning from RedState: Senate GOP may be caving on health care and some may even go for public option.
Wethal on October 7, 2009 at 4:04 PM
Linky for the rejection rate of medical claims. Oh and AETNA is second and has a 6.8% rate and then it drops to 4% for the others.
Just A Grunt on October 7, 2009 at 4:06 PM
Needs more
CowbellTasers!!!Throw in some rubber bullets while yer at it.
BigWyo on October 7, 2009 at 4:33 PM
Amspecblog.
Of course, some of the taxes are highly controversial. Unions oppose the taxes on gold-plated health plans.
Wethal on October 7, 2009 at 4:47 PM
It goes much beyond ‘them’ that which is worthy of defending. It’s the principle under attack and it is the principle we should defend. The free market system has been on the erosion side of the trend and this represents yet another assault on that front.
Besides, I’m not looking for a friend in any kind of business transaction. I have enough of those. What I want is an industry with companies free to pursue their own self interests. It is that environment only which maximizes competition. A healthy competetive market is the only place which allows for one’s own self interests to be met as the consumer.
anuts on October 7, 2009 at 5:51 PM
6 people…almost as impressive as the 75,000 that went to the D.C. Tea Party (I’m still so pissed at O’Reilly for that BS).
Dr. ZhivBlago on October 7, 2009 at 8:38 PM
United Healthcare is salivating at the prospect of 47 million (or is 30?) new “customers”. Of course they support “reform”, even if they have to endure some short term abuse to get there.
exdeadhead on October 7, 2009 at 10:41 PM
exdeadhead-do you prefer the cherry or punch flavored kool-aid?
Amendment X on October 8, 2009 at 1:51 PM