Global warming alert!

posted at 6:10 pm on October 6, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Over the last two weeks, the weather has turned rapidly in Minnesota from one of the mildest summers on recent record to a cold and blustery fall.  We’ve been griping about it, but maybe we should have counted our blessings.  I just took a look at the five-day forecast for the Twin Cities and found this:

Snow on October 9th?  That’s less than three weeks into autumn.  Last year, we didn’t get snow until the weekend before Halloween.  Looks like a long winter of global warming coming our way this year….


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Oh man Ed, I miss snow shoeing at lake elmo! I can’t do that here in Cali, unless I drive to Big Bear….

jbh45 on October 6, 2009 at 7:24 PM

no that’s a hurricane.

harry on October 6, 2009 at 7:22 PM

Tell it to Al Gore. He’s the one who put a hurricane coming out of a factory on the cover of his DVD.

Ronnie on October 6, 2009 at 7:24 PM

Global warming, smarming!

MCGIRV on October 6, 2009 at 6:59 PM

I think you’re onto something there.

I’ve been noticing a lot more smarminess coming out of the Whitehouse in the last nine months or so.

VelvetElvis on October 6, 2009 at 7:25 PM

They better get that cap and tax POS passed quick.

jukin on October 6, 2009 at 7:25 PM

Actually, I think I’ll have a zombie instead of a hurricane this round.

Doorgunner on October 6, 2009 at 7:26 PM

And yet I heard a report today from some gubbmint agency that predicted that people heating with natural gas would be putting out about $150 less this winter in heating bills due to the predicted mild winter in store for us. They neglected to say who made that prediction though. Just a simple oversight I’m sure.

Oldnuke on October 6, 2009 at 6:46 PM

Tell ‘em to smoke this:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=amm7GJfWypJE

Sept. 28 (Bloomberg) — The U.S. Northeast may have the coldest winter in a decade because of a weak El Nino, a warming current in the Pacific Ocean, according to Matt Rogers, a forecaster at Commodity Weather Group

RightWinged on October 6, 2009 at 7:27 PM

Oh yeah, BTW, the current sun spot count:

ZERO

And no, nobody has a fixed point for the Solar Cycle 23 minimum.

The official graph is still being ‘revised’.

CPT. Charles on October 6, 2009 at 7:28 PM

’ve been noticing a lot more smarminess coming out of the Whitehouse in the last nine months or so.

VelvetElvis on October 6, 2009 at 7:25 PM

Combined with the conjoined ‘smug’ systems passing over Southpark, CO…

…this could be… well, I think we’ve all learned something.

Doorgunner on October 6, 2009 at 7:28 PM

This is a el nino year: colder and wetter.

jbh45 on October 6, 2009 at 7:30 PM

no that’s a hurricane.

harry on October 6, 2009 at 7:22 PM
Tell it to Al Gore. He’s the one who put a hurricane coming out of a factory on the cover of his DVD.

Ronnie on October 6, 2009 at 7:24 PM

I didn’t bring up Al Gore. I merely pointed out that the weather in your back yard is not indicative of climate. To look out your window and declare all is well Worldwide based on your limited perspective is kinda stupid.

harry on October 6, 2009 at 7:32 PM

Better get AlGore recalibrated–he’s going to be three hours away in Madistan on the 9th.

Radish on October 6, 2009 at 7:35 PM

Milankovitch Cycles! If you could ride them some blogger might understand the main driver of cyclical climate change over tens and hundreds of thousands of years. And the climate does change, a lot. But warm isn’t the thing to worry about, or just the sun. CO2 is one tiny factor, and only the third most important greenhouse gas, just a trace gas compared to water vapor and methane. Sunspots appear to be very important in looking at climate change over decades and centuries. The sun is continuing to show no sunspots.

To allege the unbelievably complex science of climate is “settled” is like saying “we’ve got that whole universe thing figured out” because we’ve measured cosmic background radiation. Nice, but not a time to stop and pat ourselves on the back.

Serious global warming will happen when — over billions of years — our sun begins to lose Helium.

The future looks bright—maybe too bright. The sun is slowly expanding and brightening, and over the next few billion years it will eventually desiccate Earth, leaving it hot, brown and uninhabitable. About 7.6 billion years from now, the sun will reach its maximum size as a red giant: its surface will extend beyond Earth’s orbit today by 20 percent and will shine 3,000 times brighter. In its final stage, the sun will collapse into a white dwarf.

So fire up that charcoal grill and take your Hummer for a little off-road excursion. Mother Gaia and Father Sun could not care less.

Beagle on October 6, 2009 at 7:36 PM

Oldnuke on October 6, 2009 at 7:14 PM

Nah. Woolly Mammoth and Giant Bison farts.

CPT. Charles on October 6, 2009 at 7:36 PM

Snow in the Colorado Moutains this Thursday… may even get snow in Denver….

Romeo13 on October 6, 2009 at 7:43 PM

harry on October 6, 2009 at 7:32 PM

I know you didn’t bring up Al Gore. That’s why I brought up Al Gore. He’s one of the biggest offenders when it comes to looking out his window and giving us his limited perspective on the climate. If you see Ed’s post as anything but a mockery of that, then you’re probably missing the point.

Ronnie on October 6, 2009 at 7:44 PM

The rest of you can deny it all you want, but I have seen the proof of the rising sea level. In fact, just last week I took the family to the beach and in the space of three hours, the water rose over two feet.

brotherjohn on October 6, 2009 at 7:46 PM

in the space of three hours, the water rose over two feet.

brotherjohn on October 6, 2009 at 7:46 PM

I had a similar experience in a bathroom at Taco Bell.

Ronnie on October 6, 2009 at 7:48 PM

in the space of three hours, the water rose over two feet.

brotherjohn on October 6, 2009 at 7:46 PM

Ah, but I have proof that the Sea Level is DECREASING… it went down a couple of feet in a few hours… worldwide Water shortage coming as the Seas Shrink…. musta happened right after you left…

Romeo13 on October 6, 2009 at 7:50 PM

To look out your window and declare all is well Worldwide based on your limited perspective is kinda stupid.

harry on October 6, 2009 at 7:32 PM

However, if you look out your window for a couple of years, and then compare it to what people around planet have noticed outside of those windows… well, you might figure out you’re being lied to by a lot of the folks who are paid by your tax dollars to really pay attention to such things.

It’s sort of like Barney Frank saying CRA didn’t lead to Fannie buying bad paper that led to complex instruments later referred to as “toxic assets”, that led to a banking collapse, that led to an economic recession. Nooo, it’s really because, after thousands of years of banking practice a sudden upturn in greed during the eight years of a ‘Rethuglican’ administration caused bankers to forget how to make a viable mortgage loan.

Who you gonna believe, the Barneys, or your own lyin’ eyes?

Doorgunner on October 6, 2009 at 7:53 PM

To look out your window and declare all is well Worldwide based on your limited perspective is kinda stupid.

harry on October 6, 2009 at 7:32 PM
However, if you look out your window for a couple of years, and then compare it to what people around planet have noticed outside of those windows… well, you might figure out you’re being lied to by a lot of the folks who are paid by your tax dollars to really pay attention to such things.

It’s sort of like Barney Frank saying CRA didn’t lead to Fannie buying bad paper that led to complex instruments later referred to as “toxic assets”, that led to a banking collapse, that led to an economic recession. Nooo, it’s really because, after thousands of years of banking practice a sudden upturn in greed during the eight years of a ‘Rethuglican’ administration caused bankers to forget how to make a viable mortgage loan.

Who you gonna believe, the Barneys, or your own lyin’ eyes?

Doorgunner on October 6, 2009 at 7:53 PM

I must have missed that study, do you have a link?

harry on October 6, 2009 at 7:54 PM

Nah. Woolly Mammoth and Giant Bison farts.

CPT. Charles on October 6, 2009 at 7:36 PM

Then we should immediately tax Woolly Mammoths and Giant Bison. Oh wait, that’s probably what happened..they got taxed into extinction. Oh well maybe we can get them some free health insurance, retroactive of course.

Oldnuke on October 6, 2009 at 7:55 PM

Cracking me up Ed… :)

The snow you’re getting right now came through here yesterday and dropped (3) inches on us down here at the river level; (14) inches in the mountains surrounding us. We have another storm approaching which will bring more snow and unusual cold temps for this early in the fall. We’re expecting lows around 13 degrees Thurs, Friday, and Saturday. I would expect this wave to hit your area by Friday.

Damn Global Warming!

Keemo on October 6, 2009 at 7:56 PM

harry on October 6, 2009 at 7:54 PM

http://www.flightstats.com/go/Home/home.do

http://www.univ-wea.com/tripsupport/planning_weather_services.html

Do your own study, pal. There are several flight services that provide weather, mostly membership based. But know that the info is politically unbiased. It kind of astounds me that no one double checks trends independently of the folks who have a vested interest in “climate change”; the info is always readily available.

Doorgunner on October 6, 2009 at 8:07 PM

Just ordered a new 1 1/4″ ripsaw track for my sled./Snowmachine.

heshtesh on October 6, 2009 at 8:10 PM

Try the link below, unless you have already made up your mind or are convinced that scientists are out to deceive you in order to promote some secret agenda of theirs.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/?report=global&year=2009&month=8

oakland on October 6, 2009 at 8:17 PM

About to order 3 cords of wood–at least. Last winter here in Seattle area we had snow storm after snow storm until sometime in April/May. Very unusual weather for here. We usually get one or two snows per winter. Yeah…global warming. I’m feeling the heat–from my fireplace.

Driefromseattle on October 6, 2009 at 8:20 PM

Ed, you still got it relatively cosy. The forecast for Montana is for single digits later this week. Of course that may hed your way.

docdave on October 6, 2009 at 8:26 PM

I’m in St. Paul in two weeks for a short business trip. Do I need to pack snowshoes?

I was once there when it was 4 below zero. A few days before I planned to set off for St. Paul, I asked a local woman who worked for the place I was visiting whether things would be canceled if it snowed. She said, “Oh, no! The airport never closes.”

Attila (Pillage Idiot) on October 6, 2009 at 8:33 PM

Have you checked to see if Al Gore will be visiting Minnesota?

hadsil on October 6, 2009 at 8:49 PM

The weather in your back yard is not indicative of climate.

harry on October 6, 2009 at 7:04 PM

My weather rock is more accurate than your GCM.

Fighton03 on October 6, 2009 at 8:50 PM

harry on October 6, 2009 at 7:54 PM
http://www.flightstats.com/go/Home/home.do

http://www.univ-wea.com/tripsupport/planning_weather_services.html

Do your own study, pal. There are several flight services that provide weather, mostly membership based. But know that the info is politically unbiased. It kind of astounds me that no one double checks trends independently of the folks who have a vested interest in “climate change”; the info is always readily available.

Doorgunner on October 6, 2009 at 8:07 PM

Are you serious? Do you understand the idea that weather does not equal climate?

Climate The accumulation of daily and seasonal weather events over a long period of time. A description of aggregate weather conditions; the sum of all statistical weather information that helps describe a place or region.

Weather The state of the atmosphere in terms of such variables as temperature, cloudiness, precipitation, and radiation

One of these things is not like the other.

Try to keep up.

harry on October 6, 2009 at 9:12 PM

I’ve gotta get a bigger snowplow. We just cut another 2 cord and even at that we’re not sure it’s going to be enough. We’ve been burning for a week now. The chippers and squirrels have been working overtime, and the bears have started moving uphill. We’re in for a bad winter, folks.

Kissmygrits on October 6, 2009 at 9:12 PM

Y’all need to read the John Ringo novel “The Last Centurion”. I swear this guy has a crystal ball or something. This is about serious global cooling AND a global flu pandemic happening with a serious leftist in the WH.

One of my favorite novels.

mad scientist on October 6, 2009 at 9:13 PM

Hey, just read in the forecast discussion from the Tucson NWS office. Could see a dusting of snow above 8,000 on Mt. Lemmon, home of the nations farthest south ski area, and less than an hour drive from downtown Tucson.

I’m lovin’ me some global climate change.

Ordinary1 on October 6, 2009 at 9:19 PM

I’m less interested in the global warming mythology than to make the comment that I think it’s cute that you live in Minn. and still are taking pictures of the snow! :-0

highhopes on October 6, 2009 at 9:20 PM

Unfortunately, people know just enough about science to know that nature can be unpredictable and fickle, and that there are short term fluctuations in climate.

Those who prefer to believe in global warming will view it as a long-term inevitability and aren’t going to back down from it anytime soon.

Dr. ZhivBlago on October 6, 2009 at 9:20 PM

Snow in the Colorado Moutains this Thursday… may even get snow in Denver….

Romeo13 on October 6, 2009 at 7:43 PM

There was snow in the in the mts and Denver over two weeks ago. I watched plenty of the white stuff come down last week. In conjunction with the peak aspen color, and the ‘American Alps’ in the San Jauns, it was awesome!

bikermailman on October 6, 2009 at 9:22 PM

A friend of mine on Facebook who lives in Colorado says, “Loveland opens Wednesday, A-Basin on Friday. They are now blowing snow at Vail too!!!” He went on to explain that it’s the earliest opening day in Loveland’s 40 year history by 7 days.

Stock up on Snuggies.

Ordinary1 on October 6, 2009 at 9:29 PM

I’m from Minnesota, so the concept of global warming is a bit silly to me. This story inspires me to send a little postcard to Mr. Gore with something like fishhouse on White Bear Lake or the eelpout festival in Brainerd.

pjean on October 6, 2009 at 9:39 PM

*Yawn*

Gee, all this talk about Al Bore is making me feel drowsy. I’d better go to bed. G’night all!

cableguy615 on October 6, 2009 at 9:51 PM

I guess it’s not too cold to play baseball. Congrats on an awesome Twins win!

Buy Danish on October 6, 2009 at 9:52 PM

I guess it’s not too cold to play baseball. Congrats on an awesome Twins win!

Buy Danish on October 6, 2009 at 9:52 PM

I second that. What a fantastic game, by both teams! Since the Astros didn’t come within two time zones of making the playoffs, I think I’ll be cheering on the Twins.

SailorDave on October 6, 2009 at 9:56 PM

Three inches up here in South Lake Tahoe on October 4th. Snow dancing continues…

keebs on October 6, 2009 at 9:57 PM

MT got dumped on yesterday.

Billings Gazette

Russ86 on October 6, 2009 at 10:08 PM

And the ice at both poles melted less this year than they had recently. The global warming enthusiasts are calling it a pause in the melting.

HotWeaver on October 6, 2009 at 10:09 PM

Stay warm, Ed!

Dave R. on October 6, 2009 at 10:32 PM

OMG!

A twenty degree drop within a single day! Al Gore would point out that if this trend keeps up, for say just a single month, the temperature by November will drop below absolute zero, which means you shouldn’t venture outdoors without a good pair of warm mittens.

Danzo on October 6, 2009 at 10:32 PM

A hot and steamy 82 degrees here in Austin…I miss the cold :(

Fortunata on October 6, 2009 at 10:33 PM

Oldnuke on October 6, 2009 at 7:14 PM

I just sort of ask myself “What was it that ended the Ice Age, and did we have anything to do with it?

Unfortunately, today’s super-strain of liberals are highly resistant to logic.

It reminds me of when the wife and I went to Galveston and visited a place called Moody Gardens. Basically a park with theaters and attractions that glorifies nature.

We were checking out the 3D IMAX movies there, and they were mostly global warming propaganda. One film whined about the dwindling water in the southwest states and blamed it on man, of course. Immediately afterward was a film about some species of prehistoric fish that swam all over America because it was entirely submerged in water. As I said, highly resistant to logic.

Ironically, one of the more preachy films featured music by the Dave Matthews Band. You know, the same clowns who dumped raw sewage from their tour bus into the Chicago River (and unto the people riding in a boat beneath the bridge).

ynot4tony2 on October 6, 2009 at 10:53 PM

Oh yeah, BTW, the current sun spot count:

ZERO

And no, nobody has a fixed point for the Solar Cycle 23 minimum.

The official graph is still being ‘revised’.

CPT. Charles on October 6, 2009 at 7:28 PM

Man made sun spots. That is the culprit.

Johan Klaus on October 6, 2009 at 11:04 PM

Fortunata on October 6, 2009 at 10:33 PM

I love Texas. I can ride my motorcycle all year long.

Johan Klaus on October 6, 2009 at 11:08 PM

We’re truck drivers, drove through snow and ice in Idaho and Wyoming September 30. Live in Nebraska, we never hit 100 this summer and only had one week of high 90′s, unheard of.

Cornhusker on October 6, 2009 at 11:11 PM

When the big flaming ball in the sky goes down, it gets cold. Happens every night. I think there’s a relation. Google it.

theCork on October 7, 2009 at 1:06 AM

GLOBAL WARMING? The Weather Channel can’t get a 3 day forecast right! Who owns the Weather Channel? G.E.! Oh yeah, there’s a LOT of legitimacy there now! Let’s start the day off with MSNBC leftist propaganda, followed by the GLOBAL WARMING FANTASY FORECAST.

nelsonknows on October 7, 2009 at 1:08 AM

its still pretty hot here in Cairo but i guess thats from all the CO2 getting pumped around from these old cars everywhere

saL on October 7, 2009 at 2:41 AM

Some guy on the Weather Channel was saying this was the 5th hottest summer on record..I didn’t stick around to hear the stats because the zombies on that channel never present other stats that show the cooling information and they tend to twist things around to their view point. It was cool here in the Mid-Atlantic over the summer.

deedledee on October 7, 2009 at 6:59 AM

Global Warming: It’s the Sun, Stupid

Hmmmm, and the Sun is unusually quiet. Lack of sunspots over a longer than normal time. Hmmmmmmmmm

I just finished reading “Unstoppable Global Warming – Every 1,500 Years”. It uses data from tree rings, ice cores, ocean and lake floor cores, stalagmites, Chinese records going way back, etc and determined that there is a climate cycle that lasts roughly 1,500 years. We’re evidently in an unexpected cooling cycle right now.

Too bad Uhhhhbama and Congress are hell bent on going along with the man made global warming tripe.

darwin-t on October 7, 2009 at 7:00 AM

Global warming is so old school. The correct term is climate change. That way the lefties can throw new rules and taxes on if the temperature goes up or down.

Mangy Scot on October 7, 2009 at 9:27 AM

Enjoy your cold. Where I live, between the temperature and humidity, the heat index will be in excess of 100F.

I R A Darth Aggie on October 7, 2009 at 10:41 AM

brotherjohn on October 6, 2009 at 7:46 PM

You owe me a new monitor….that was hilarious!

rukiddingme on October 7, 2009 at 11:46 AM

We had snow in the Denver Metro area weeks ago, and it’s not all that unusual. The mountains have gotten blasted a couple of times now.

What was unusual was the cool summer, we only had a couple of weekends in the 90s and no week of 100+ like we usually get. And lots more rain than usual.

Common Sense on October 7, 2009 at 5:17 PM

When one of Gores climatologists told him that the whole global warming thing just wasn’t happenin’, Gore told him to shut up that, We’re not going to let science interfere with a matter of Public Policy.
yeah…particularly when yer gonna make millions off of that “Public Policy”.

This is not about Global Warming or C02, it’ about power and the money that flows from it.

Army Brat on October 7, 2009 at 5:39 PM

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