Video: Carville on Beck, Olympics, and, er … hockey courts?
posted at 1:36 pm on October 5, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
This clip contains plenty of material for three blog posts, but I’ll roll it up into one. Pay attention to the entire clip all the way to the end, but be sure to watch for James Carville making a fool of himself by declaring Glen Beck incompetent on sports — while talking about hockey “courts”. Hey, I’m no big fan of hockey, but I can tell a rink from a tennis court:
I think he’s nuts… Just out and out nuts. And I also think that he’s a blatant hypocrite. Here’s somebody that sits on his show and weeping about how much he loves America… and then, he’s absolutely giddy when his country doesn’t get the Olympics.
He wouldn’t know the difference between a football, a bat, and a hockey court.
And that’s Carville at his most coherent in this clip. He descends into incoherence immediately afterwards, earning a puzzled look from his wife. (Update: I got that quote from CNN’s Political Ticker.)
As for cheering the loss of the Olympics, Carville has an implied point about it being bad optics. However, 47% of Chicagoans didn’t want their Olympic bid to succeed, either; does that make them un-American, or just clear-eyed about the costs and risks of hosting the 2016 Games? After all, that would dump billions of development dollars into one of the most chronically corrupt cities in America, much of which would come from federal monies, and all of which would be used to further entrench the power of the Daley machine in Chicago. It’s hard to imagine how we could possibly make it easier for the Daley Machine to extend its patronage efforts and solidify its grip on power than to hand it an Olympiad, which has had its share of corruption problems over the years without the assistance of the Chicago environment.
So yes, it’s possible to think that losing the Olympics is a good thing without hating our country. The argument that equates that with being un-American or unpatriotic is risible, especially when it comes from people who cheered when an Iraqi reporter threw his shoes at an American president, or celebrated casualty counts while opposing the war in Iraq.
Lastly, Graham will take a lot of heat for his remarks about Glen Beck not representing the Republican Party, but Beck himself would probably be the first to agree. It’s the same with Rush Limbaugh, but with different audiences. Limbaugh represents conservatives, while Beck is more of a conservo-populist, and both regularly criticize the GOP for its policy directions. That’s what makes the efforts of the Obama administration to make either or both the face of the Republican Party so laughable; it demonstrates a cluelessness about both talk radio and the Republican Party, and looks like desperation.
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Nope. Carville is the missing link and Beck is a Patriot.
Get back here when You get it figured out Cowboy.
old trooper2 on October 5, 2009 at 2:23 PM
And he said that on the morning of 9/11, just before the first plane hit.
Del Dolemonte on October 5, 2009 at 2:23 PM
Carville = Hockey Puck
Thanks, Don.
Del Dolemonte on October 5, 2009 at 2:24 PM
Carville, you dolt.
Most Americans really do not care whether or not the Olympics are held on our soil. We just don’t care.
But, we do care about the waste of time and money spent by the POTUS and wife to fly to Copenhagen…….while men are DYING in a war zone.
And that is why Glenn Beck is popular. He speaks to us. You, on the other hand, do not.
bridgetown on October 5, 2009 at 2:24 PM
Graham has as much standing in assessing who helps the conservative movement as Jeanne Garafolo. Although I believe even Lindsey is more conservative than Jeanne.
chicken thief on October 5, 2009 at 2:25 PM
Bill “BJ” Clinton’s thug-in-chief still calls most of the shots at the DNC because he’s in lock-step with George Soros & Company and is planning on living out his years in a totally Socialist State. Should he venture a half-step further left, he’d fall right off the edge.
GoldenEagle4444 on October 5, 2009 at 2:26 PM
FIFY
mr.blacksheep on October 5, 2009 at 2:27 PM
Either way, it comes with a large pickle.
Laura in Maryland on October 5, 2009 at 2:28 PM
The problem with the GOP is not that Glenn Beck doesn’t represent it, but that Lindsey Graham does represent it.
molonlabe28 on October 5, 2009 at 2:28 PM
I support
the troopsChicago, not themissionOlympics.SouthernGent on October 5, 2009 at 2:30 PM
Celebrity Death. Oh yes…..
Badger40 on October 5, 2009 at 2:31 PM
Badger40 on October 5, 2009 at 2:31 PM
Mathematicians have yet to find a name for the number of puzzled glances James Carville has received from his wife.
Jim Treacher on October 5, 2009 at 2:32 PM
I heard it was a Gerkin.
HornetSting on October 5, 2009 at 2:32 PM
Great–now I need a barf bucket!!! *Sigh*
lovingmyUSA on October 5, 2009 at 2:33 PM
+1
Laura in Maryland on October 5, 2009 at 2:33 PM
carville is an evil little man but what he said, ed, was that “he wouldn’t know the difference between a football bat and a hockey court.” He was purposely mixing up sports to make a point. I realize that you get your “views” from other sources but cnn isn’t a good source no matter what the topic. Try to stick to conservative sources.
peacenprosperity on October 5, 2009 at 2:34 PM
Well, I do think it would be nice. I’d like to go to one at some point in my life, and that’s obviously easier if they’re held in this country.
Aside from that, no, I really don’t care, especially if it’s more likely to cost money than make money.
Esthier on October 5, 2009 at 2:34 PM
It was fun watching carville keep his mouth shut even though he wanted to interrupt. Mary Matalin is the one person on the planet he is probably afraid of knows not to be rude to. I’ve never understood how she deals ith him but I guess this might be a sign that in private he isn’t allowed to spew his insanity.
peacenprosperity on October 5, 2009 at 2:36 PM
WTF is a 5,000 year leap? Something separating Carville from his brain? What on earth would that have to do with Beck anyway?
This guy is not playing with a full deck. Never thought he was really. I’ve spat at him ever since he wore a blue dress and kneeled in front of Clinton and blamed it on Monica.
Spiritk9 on October 5, 2009 at 2:36 PM
THAT’S what Carville looks like a Jerkin!
lovingmyUSA on October 5, 2009 at 2:36 PM
Because they’re more likely to be generous to Carville?
For the record, the quote doesn’t make sense especially if he’s mixing the words. Of course Beck doesn’t know the difference between the nonexistent football bat and a hockey court.
Esthier on October 5, 2009 at 2:37 PM
As a Canadian, I am insulted that he doesn’t know about our hockey diamonds. I shall beat him to death with a hockey broom asap.
mjk on October 5, 2009 at 2:38 PM
Any other time in history I’d agree, but now, no. We don’t need the olympics here, it’s too easy to use it to stage a terrorist attack. Especially with zero as president. I really don’t believe for a minute he gives a rats ass about the security in this country and an attack would only serve to allow him to further his agenda.
Spiritk9 on October 5, 2009 at 2:39 PM
Sharp as a tack as usual.
peacenprosperity on October 5, 2009 at 2:41 PM
A bald head only works with the right guy. Most can’t pull it off.
Esthier on October 5, 2009 at 2:41 PM
I like Ann a lot but sometimes she cannot complete a single thought without stuttering or flipping her hair. If you want someone to put a putz like Carville in his place put him in the ring with Michelle. That is one smart women that will not back down against anyone.
jistincase on October 5, 2009 at 2:41 PM
Yeah, I know this one guy that REALLY can’t pull it off….
HornetSting on October 5, 2009 at 2:42 PM
I actually doubt that. An attack, especially one after nearly 8 years of him as president, would seem to many to completely contradict his method of handling terrorism. If anything, I think it would create a backlash against him for things like closing Gitmo and treating terrorism like a criminal act rather than war.
My brother would probably agree with you though. He thinks I underestimate Obama.
But I have wondered the same about hosting the UN here, and I am surprised stadiums haven’t been attacked before.
Thought you’d try to explain what I missed. Guess not.
Esthier on October 5, 2009 at 2:48 PM
Carville better be careful. Beck might turn on him and slab the dirt on the chalkboard baby, and then let the tears flow.
Go Glenn.
Sapwolf on October 5, 2009 at 2:49 PM
Ouch! That’s gonna leave a mark.
Blacksmith8 on October 5, 2009 at 2:50 PM
Glenn Beck pointedly states that he’s not a Republican. That’s fine. He’s a self-described conservative, and I suspect more than a little populist. Also fine. There’s nothing wrong with Sen. Graham pointing out that he disagrees with Glenn Beck on assorted issues and doesn’t consider him representative of the GOP. I think that Glenn Beck is entitled to his opinion that it was better for Obama to have beaten McCain, but Sen. Graham (and I) disagree. It may have been better for the GOP overall to have Obama win and then unmask himself as an unprepared rookie with very bad policy ideas, but it sure wasn’t better for the country.
Jill1066 on October 5, 2009 at 2:52 PM
Sapwolf on October 5, 2009 at 2:53 PM
WTF is a “Football bat” or a “Hockey Court?”
I think Carville has exposed himself for what he is, just look at his sports analogy habits…. hes an idiot.
Koa on October 5, 2009 at 2:55 PM
Heh. I don’t know. I hear he gets plenty of “results” with the ladies.
Esthier on October 5, 2009 at 2:55 PM
It’s called nature and let’s leave it at that.
Sapwolf on October 5, 2009 at 2:56 PM
A US president has never involved himself to get an Olympic Games hosted in an American city this way before – never. Now that Super Popular Guy has shown that it ultimately doesn’t matter if even the president begs to the IOC, I guess Obama’s shown that no US president should be as foolish as him ever again.
It’s also highly ironic that Obama first goes abroad and minimizes the importance of American exceptionalism, only to sell Chicago as the best venue for an Olympics evah! We all know why – it’s all about him and his hometown. Narcissism still in full effect.
Seixon on October 5, 2009 at 2:59 PM
I have to step in to back up peacenprosperity on this one. Though Carville is idiotic to cite Glenn Beck’s knowledge of sports as a prerequisite for commenting on the Olympic games, I also heard “football bat” and “hockey court”. There are lots of expressions like this, and I generally find them clever and humorous.
Carville is a whack job, and his point in this piece is, well, not really a point at all, and certainly not one to base his entire argument on, but that remark wasn’t any stupider than the rest of his screed.
ral514 on October 5, 2009 at 3:05 PM
I was confused by the “hockey courts” in the headline. I was afraid that Canada found another venue to persecute Mark Steyn.
SKYFOX on October 5, 2009 at 3:07 PM
Yeah…. this is typical Carville.
Carville goes for the BIG lie to see how much BS he can make stick. That’s his M.O.
But Ed, Carville said Beck doesn’t know the difference between a football bat and a hockey court. Carville is trying to tear Joe Sixpack from listening to Beck with that statement. Again… Carville prepares his statements for short soundbites for biggest effect. He’s a professional propagandist and he’s proud of it.
Danzo on October 5, 2009 at 3:07 PM
Absolute proof Beck is on the right course if not 180 degrees opposite of Carville at least 150.
Speakup on October 5, 2009 at 3:08 PM
Hockey Ball, get it right…
GoodSamaritan on October 5, 2009 at 3:10 PM
I’m beyond sick of being called anti-American because I’m happy that Rio got the games. The location of the games isn’t why we have the Olympic games, it’s because of the athletes of the world. I’ll be cheering for the U.S. athletes in 2016 whether the games were in Rio, Chicago, Madrid, Tokyo, or anywhere else. The selection on Friday wasn’t about whether the games would be held or not, but where… and MO and Obama BLEW IT!
behiker on October 5, 2009 at 3:12 PM
Character assassination is James Carville’s schtick, and it’s as simple as that. He will say whatever he has to say to malign anyone who even remotely threatens Democratic standing in the public’s eye. Not to mention keep himself front and center as a premier choice for a voice for the Democratic Party. It’s all bottom line influence, power and money, to ol’ Jamie.
KendraWilder on October 5, 2009 at 3:13 PM
LOL, they will have to extradite him from New Hampshire now.
Del Dolemonte on October 5, 2009 at 3:14 PM
And you both might be correct. Still, it’s an odd analogy that makes even less sense. I’ve heard “football bat” before but only to call something strange. “As strange as a football bat or a 3 dollar bill.”
Esthier on October 5, 2009 at 3:15 PM
I just realized another reason why Jimmy Carter and Obama are so much alike. Carter wouldn’t let the U.S. athletes go to the Olympics in 1980 and Obama screwed it up so they couldn’t go to Olympics in the U.S. in 2016.
behiker on October 5, 2009 at 3:16 PM
While our Bills might as well use a “football bat” (they’re not playing the same sport as everyone else in the NFL anyway) I assure those in non-Hockey towns that Hockey teams like our Sabres most definitely play on a “hockey rink.”
BlueStateBilly on October 5, 2009 at 3:18 PM
Hey Carville, you bonehead, it’s not rocket surgery.
rjoco1 on October 5, 2009 at 3:19 PM
That was a funny gaffe. Loved Mary’s expression, too.
AnninCA on October 5, 2009 at 3:20 PM
Well, I do think it would be nice. I’d like to go to one at some point in my life, and that’s obviously easier if they’re held in this country.
Esthier on October 5, 2009 at 2:34 PM
I’d like to go to one also, but not Chicago. Why feed corruption? San Fran, Denver, or anywhere else.
chewydog on October 5, 2009 at 3:26 PM
We have a new stadium in Arlington. :)
Esthier on October 5, 2009 at 3:29 PM
Coo coo….Carville is nuts. His fake laughing the other night was downright maniacal…they even made fun of him on SNL!
allstonian on October 5, 2009 at 3:32 PM
Is it me or did Mary look embarrassed to be married to him for just a brief moment?
mizflame98 on October 5, 2009 at 3:35 PM
If Carville was trying to be clever with those expressions, he wasn’t being clear. I’ve only even heard of a rink or arena when talking about hockey. And a football field or stadium. Regardless, the rest of his diatribe was incomprehensible. Yet, incredibly funny.
MrX on October 5, 2009 at 3:35 PM
How many best sellers has Carville published? What are Carville’s ratings on his radio show? His TV show?
Nuff said.
paulsur on October 5, 2009 at 3:40 PM
I think Carville is pretty funny and doesn’t believe much of what he spouts in public. I could be wrong, but I don’t think Mary Matalin would have married him if he was truly like his public persona.
LASue on October 5, 2009 at 3:52 PM
What’s obvious to me about all the “Rush hates Glenn” and vice versa hoopla is that the left is scared to death of any sort of coalescence of the right. There was almost a palpable shift in August/September. Something started to come together–the right appeared to be joining forces. The results were phenomenal and ongoing.
It wouldn’t surprise me a bit to find out that Glenn, Sarah, Rush, Breitbart and maybe a few others were/are quietly collaborating. Even if I’m full of beans, it does give me a glimmer of hope that when the time is right, barrels will be unleased and the right will re-take their party and resurrect the Party of Reagan.
hoosiermama on October 5, 2009 at 3:53 PM
I liked how Carville was trying to rip into Glenn through “The 5,000 Year Leap”. He sounded like a typical review of a book, from a conservative author, on Amazon.com:
“I haven’t read the book, but it stinks, and here’s why…”
Left Coast Right Mind on October 5, 2009 at 3:54 PM
If you , Mcstain or the republicans stood for conservatism you’d have a point, Chump!
TheSitRep on October 5, 2009 at 4:03 PM
With all respect to his wife Mary and two girls.This Bozo is out of his ever loving mind.
thmcbb on October 5, 2009 at 4:09 PM
Let’s see if I have this now…
1. Only liberals can decide when allusions to Nazis are “civil”.
2. Only liberals can decide when claiming an opponent does not care about the death of Americans is “civil”.
3. Only liberals can decide when something is “dissent” and when it’s “hateful”
4. Only liberals can decide if you’re racist.
5. Only liberals can decide if you’re un-American.
Axeman on October 5, 2009 at 4:10 PM
I think Carville must have been bent because Rahm Emanuel and Stephanopoulos were whining and crying in his ear about Obama and the Olympics….
Carville calls White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel.
Emanuel calls ABC News Chief Washington Correspondent George Stephanopoulos.
A bit later, CNN commentator Paul Begala, who is not quite the early bird that his friends are, will complete the circle with a rapid set of calls to all three.
Different versions of this round-robin chatter have been taking place, with few interruptions, every workday for nearly a generation.
“I refer to it as the 17-year-long conference call,” said Emanuel, who starts calling his friends at 6 a.m. “You can tap into it anytime you want.”
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0109/18011.html
lovingmyUSA on October 5, 2009 at 4:12 PM
I would for Carville to suit up and hit the ice. I wouldn’t mind a few rounds with him on the ice. Maybe I’d have him looking like a jack-o-latern before the night’s over.
jbh45 on October 5, 2009 at 4:12 PM
The best thing about Chicago losing the Olympics is that Obama’s buddies can’t profit by selling their slum properties to build facilities for the Olympics.
Jasper61 on October 5, 2009 at 4:15 PM
Outsiders see it for what it is: yet another liberal circle jerk with Rahm as the pivot man.
ya2daup on October 5, 2009 at 4:22 PM
But wouldn’t he look exactly the same as he does now?
ya2daup on October 5, 2009 at 4:24 PM
I was not aware that Mary Matalin was the wife of James Carville; but it explains a lot about why both of them are so abrasive and tightly strung. He probably hates his whole life about now, and she needs a girls night out with some other guy. I can’t imagine having to be either one of them.
MikeA on October 5, 2009 at 4:27 PM
Funny. Carville calling someone else nuts. The left is really upset with Beck, so statements like this are no surprise at all. I’d be surprised if they didn’t try their typical tactics of name calling, dirt digging, allegation throwing…
What really makes them mad is that Beck was able to damage them with the truth. When you believe your ideology is far above the truth and the truth should bend to fit your ideology, it’s a major let down when your ideological symbol (BO) is tarnished by mere facts. Truth is a very scary thing for those who’ve spent their whole life avoiding it.
Here’s a bit of truth for the lefties to chew on:
-Washington DC is ruled by Democrats and is a rotting, stinking mess of corruption. Is it okay with you to sit idly by and do nothing about it when it’s done in the name of your ideology?
-The government can take over health care, or anything else, but we all know it can’t do it well and usually does it very badly. Is your ideology so important that government healthcare is more important than good healthcare?
-Slavery occurs when someone takes the fruits of you labor to do with as they please. At what tax rate are we all slaves?
-With a Democrat majority, you’re carrying a big stick that’s seems to be getting bigger. What happens when the stick changes hands and you’re on the receiving end?
ClanDerson on October 5, 2009 at 4:33 PM
Clearly I’m not the first to notice, but I think we should note that Ed might have misunderstood Carville’s particular brand of stupidity. I don’t think too highly of Carville at all, but his remark was intentional. He tried to use the remark to illustrate illustrate how misinformed he thinks Beck is. He did not say, “a football, a bat or hockey court, as Ed suggests.” He said, “football bat or hockey court.”
He was deliberately misusing the terms to suggest Beck is the stupid one of the two.
Carville is a fool, but this is not a good example of his foolishness.
Help.
I can’t turn off the italics.
Send food.
Tom_OC on October 5, 2009 at 4:41 PM
I wonder how long Mary will stay married to James. The way she rollers her eyes and shakes her head. As soon as he opened his mouth she knew what was coming out, She just knew that James is the nutty one.
I know they have a no politics talk at home but in the political environment that has to be a very hard job. James thinks any one with a R or C behind their name is dumb but his wife has one. How long can one last with divided loyalties. One to the Conservative ideology and one to their partner.
tjexcite on October 5, 2009 at 4:51 PM
Ah yes…James at his best…always entertaining…
Mary, you can still break free…run …
jerrytbg on October 5, 2009 at 5:12 PM
Careful here! I don’t think the dominant conservative reaction to this news was to cheer America’s failure to get the Olympics. That’s Democrat spin and don’t you buy it for a minute!
The argument I’ve heard is that it was an act of great arrogance for Obama to show up at the IOC meeting, put on a “song and dance” routine with no substance, and expect that your mere presence would seal the deal. In addition, there was all the nonsense surrounding Michele Obama and Oprah going as well. So yes, conservatives have reacted by mocking Obama’s INABILITY to get the Olympics–but that’s a far cry from cheering the fact we didn’t get the Olympics.
Outlander on October 5, 2009 at 6:07 PM
O’reilly pretends to be a “conservo-populist” (when in reality he believes in his own wisdom not the peoples), Beck is a conservative libertarian, has said so often, and makes no bones about it.
LifeTrek on October 5, 2009 at 6:14 PM
They’re married. They’re con artists. They go home and have a good laugh about how they conned America. No point in even listening to their schtick.
Jeff from WI on October 5, 2009 at 6:23 PM
Great news! The world loves the USA again!
Thanks to the ONE.
Sorry I forgot the sarc tag again.
maynila on October 5, 2009 at 6:23 PM
HEY YA CAJUN POODLE, GLUE YOUR TOOF BACK IN. YOU MAKE ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE. BEEN LICKING THEM PHYSCODELIC FROGS AGAIN?
As Red Eye viewers would explain: Everone knows it is a hockey theater so the ponies can run around hitting the golf ball into the basket….Idiot.
Carville makes a strong case for deevolution though.
Are we not men?
dthorny on October 5, 2009 at 6:25 PM
Was this an Acorn poll?
Not doubt this poll was sent out by Rahm or Axelrod right after the Chicago 2016 Olympic victory by the Obama’s and the BIG Orca Winfrey..Any propaganda is good propaganda.
What? they didn’t get them in Chicago? RACISTS!!!
dthorny on October 5, 2009 at 6:30 PM
Shows that drinking Koolaid is an international thing–not just restricted to our borders!
If I cared about the world’s opinion, I would care abot this poll, but I don’t.
(See, I’ve gotten over the shock of you showing me this earlier today–whiskey helped! :p )
lovingmyUSA on October 5, 2009 at 7:01 PM
What I see in Carville is the true hate and rage the illiberals are perpetually accusing conservatives of. It is there clearly expressed in his face. Now THERE is a guy Beck does not want to meet in a dark alley (or bowling range). Now, true conservatives are angry and rightly so at the Obama pseudo-administration. Obama is injuring America and putting Americans at risk economically and quite literally physically. It IS black and white. No gray. Clear as day. Illiberals are angry at everything that strikes their whim without reason, while Patriots to this great country have a very rational anger toward illiberals. The line has been drawn in the sand. I would hope 2010 will deal Obama a mighty hammer blow, but what will happen in the interim? Or with Obama still at the helm after 2010? Nightmare on 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. And this ain`t no movie.
Sherman1864 on October 5, 2009 at 7:05 PM
No. As the link to cnn proves, ed recycles others views, this time he got caught. He has been caught before but enough people didn’t notice. He threw Michelle Bachmann under the bus when she got mugged by mathews on hardball, in the exact same manner that Michelle Malkin got mugged by mathews. In the Bachmann case, ed read all the squishy columns on it, accepted them and then threw our most aggressive and outspoken Rep under the liberal bus.
peacenprosperity on October 5, 2009 at 7:10 PM
The one thing carville isn’t is stupid. I think matalin makes leave his work at the office. I wouldn’t be surprised if people find out one day that it was all a ruse to make money and he doesn’t really believe all the insanity he spews. I heard they recently moved from virginia to Louisiana. Might be they are trying to keep their kids away from the dc disgust.
peacenprosperity on October 5, 2009 at 7:13 PM
Do you want Italian?
Seriously, though, I am equally certain that “football bat” was intentionally said by Carville. It was an old Army term, used to describe a completely strange or screwed up person or situation. “FUBAR” can be close, but it is not exactly the same.
According to the Urban Dictionary (content), it also frequently carries a sexual connotation, as in the age-old insult, “He’s as queer as a three dollar bill” or, in this case, “a football bat.”
I think Carville used “hockey court” in the same sense — an absurd connection. Hockey and tennis are polar opposites in terms of tolerated behavior by the participants. Urban Dictionary does not define “hockey court,” but it is pretty obviously a weird connection, having an almost oxymoronic quality to it.
I think Carville wanted viewers and listeners to believe that Beck is so screwed up and stupid that he wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between two things, neither of which even exist!
It was a throw-away line.
And in my book, Mary’s reaction with the upturned hands and the furrowed brow, was all just a part of their shtick — the squabbling married political pundits. They never, ever really get upset, and it has served them both very, very well over the years!
Trochilus on October 5, 2009 at 7:17 PM
Doesn’t Carville look just like the Crypt Keeper from Tales from the Dark Side? Does ANYONE really care what this Cryptkeeper thinks?
nelsonknows on October 5, 2009 at 7:24 PM
I celebrate ANYTIME that Obama is handed the shaft. I would REALLY be celebrating if Obama was removed from office for violating the Constitution, hell I’d actually dance, and I don’t dance.
nelsonknows on October 5, 2009 at 7:27 PM
James Carville: looniest of the loony left.
ExpressoBold on October 5, 2009 at 10:41 PM
James Carville is Skelitor .
huckelberry on October 6, 2009 at 12:31 AM
The Monster on October 6, 2009 at 12:51 AM
Five years ago today at the House Subcommittee on Government-Sponsored Enterprises …
J_Crater on October 6, 2009 at 8:42 AM
How long has Carville been dead? Maybe he’s already dressed for Halloween.
Wills on October 6, 2009 at 8:43 AM
More than Carville’s political views and other opinions, I have yet to figure out he is worthy to have married the logical and forward thinking Mary Matalin.
Also, I am curious about their children. What kind of opinions/beliefs do they have, or are they totally confused.
MSGTAS on October 6, 2009 at 10:35 AM
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