Aw: Ahmadinejad doesn’t have Jewish roots after all

posted at 4:58 pm on October 5, 2009 by Allahpundit

Too bad; I saw “A Serious Man” on Saturday and just knew in my heart that he would have loved it. On the one hand, this counter-scoop from the Guardian would answer my question about why, if his original surname’s been widely known for years, no one accused him of having Jewish roots until just recently. Answer: Because it’s not really a Jewish name, silly.

On the other hand, that’s what Mossad would want us to believe, isn’t it?

Professor David Yeroshalmi, author of The Jews of Iran in the 19th century and an expert on Iranian Jewish communities, disputes the validity of this argument. “There is no such meaning for the word ‘sabour’ in any of the Persian Jewish dialects, nor does it mean Jewish prayer shawl in Persian. Also, the name Sabourjian is not a well-known Jewish name,” he stated in a recent interview. In fact, Iranian Jews use the Hebrew word “tzitzit” to describe the Jewish prayer shawl. Yeroshalmi, a scholar at Tel Aviv University’s Center for Iranian Studies, also went on to dispute the article’s findings that the “-jian” ending to the name specifically showed the family had been practising Jews. “This ending is in no way sufficient to judge whether someone has a Jewish background. Many Muslim surnames have the same ending,” he stated…

According to both Naji and Tait, Ahmadinejad’s father Ahmad was in fact a religious Shia, who taught the Quran before and after Ahmadinejad’s birth and their move to Tehran. So religious was Ahmad Sabourjian that he bought a house near a Hosseinieh, a religious club that he frequented during the holy month of Moharram to mourn the martyrdom of Imam Hossein.

Moreover, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s mother is a Seyyede. This is a title given to women whose family are believed to be direct bloodline descendants of Prophet Muhammad…

The reason that Ahmadinejad’s father changed his surname has more to do with the class struggle in Iran. When it became mandatory to adopt surnames, many people from rural areas chose names that represented their professions or that of their ancestors. This made them easily identifiable as townfolk. In many cases they changed their surnames upon moving to Tehran, in order to avoid snobbery and discrimination from residents of the capital.

Er, okay, but then (a) why, per the Telegraph’s story over the weekend, is “Sabourjian” supposedly on the list of surnames reserved in Iran for Jews, and (b) what’s up with the two Iranian experts, one of whom is named, in the Telegraph piece asserting that there’s a Jewish connection here? The answers don’t matter for geopolitical purposes, but the blogosphere relies on the Telegraph regularly for info and if they’re feeding people crap in an attempt to discredit Ahmadinejad internally, it’d be good to know that. Any Iran experts willing and able to shed light on the contradictions here?

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See?! SEE?!? You should listen to LGF!!!

Skywise on October 5, 2009 at 4:59 PM

COME ON!

He and Geraldo could be BROTHERS!!!!!!!

seejanemom on October 5, 2009 at 5:01 PM

Of course he and Zira could have been seperated at birth as well….

seejanemom on October 5, 2009 at 5:01 PM

Bummer was the first word that popped into my head, too.

BadgerHawk on October 5, 2009 at 5:03 PM

Ah, no biggie. After all, there’s a little Jew inside all of us really.

Mine’s name is Herschel. XD

Orange Doorhinge on October 5, 2009 at 5:04 PM

I demand to see his original birth certificate. Not some Live birth form from Hawaii either.

portlandon on October 5, 2009 at 5:04 PM

Whatever, he is still a DICK.

cat-scratch on October 5, 2009 at 5:05 PM

I’m not an Iran Expert, per say. But, I do use the Internet, so I’ll go ahead and chime in anyway. In my professional opinion: Iran is gay.

thedudesblog on October 5, 2009 at 5:06 PM

Wish I could change my last name just because I want to. At this point it would be Funemployedican.

txag92 on October 5, 2009 at 5:06 PM

many people from rural areas chose names that represented their professions or that of their ancestors

Barrack Hussein Perpetual-Campaigner

WashJeff on October 5, 2009 at 5:07 PM

Barack Hussein Communityorganizer-jian? Wait. He’s not Jewish. …Or IS he???

thedudesblog on October 5, 2009 at 5:11 PM

Whatever, he is still a DICK.

cat-scratch on October 5, 2009 at 5:05 PM

***and a tiny one at that***

seejanemom on October 5, 2009 at 5:12 PM

Even if he had Jewish roots they were all cleansed when ever the first Dinnerjacket jumped the Jew ship and joined the magnificent Muslim supremacists. Muslims would scratch their bags in wonder at what the najis kaffir are on about with the roots thing.

BL@KBIRD on October 5, 2009 at 5:14 PM

Oy.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on October 5, 2009 at 5:16 PM

the blogosphere relies on the Telegraph regularly for info

and why not? they’re willing to publish anything!

and since when do righty bloggers care about inconvenient details, anyway?

sesquipedalian on October 5, 2009 at 5:18 PM

Oy ve!

Khun Joe on October 5, 2009 at 5:19 PM

Maybe Oliver Stone can get to the bottom of this…

Seven Percent Solution on October 5, 2009 at 5:22 PM

And we all know there’s a wealth of honesty out there in the world right now.

capejasmine on October 5, 2009 at 5:23 PM

and since when do righty bloggers care about inconvenient details, anyway?
sesquipedalian on October 5, 2009 at 5:18 PM

You mean inconvenient details like school transcripts, an illegal alien aunt, a brother living in a hut, and a piece of paper that may or may not be locked in a vault in Hawaii?

kingsjester on October 5, 2009 at 5:25 PM

No matter Ahmadin’s heritage, he still has a friend in the White House.

Bishop on October 5, 2009 at 5:26 PM

Oy gevalt! The Iminadinnerstein family of Miami is greatly relieved not to have to claim that shmegege.

Laura in Maryland on October 5, 2009 at 5:27 PM

He has roots in Satanism, not Judaism.

bridgetown on October 5, 2009 at 5:27 PM

Crap. I guess I shouldn’t have sent a mezuzah and a tallit to welcome him to the tribe.
Oh, well, live and learn.

mjk on October 5, 2009 at 5:30 PM

This was always a stupid story to begin with. Muslims are ANTI-NATIONALISTIC and ANTI-RACIAL.

Only an idiot in the west could have ever thought that tainting DinnerJacket with Jewish roots would have been a bad thing.

Muslims think like this …

Your race doesn’t matter. What you were before doesn’t matter. What matters is that you embrace Allah now. If Netanyahu were to convincingly convert to Shia Islam – he’d be welcomed with open arms in Tehran if he wanted to move there. Soooo … DinnerJacket’s potential Jewish roots were always a non-starter.

When you think of radical Islam – think of the Necromongers from the movie “The Chronicles of Riddick”. All who are conquered and submit to conversion are then accepted into service of the cause with equal status. Those that don’t are killed.

DO NOT think of Hitler – where conquered peoples were classified on a racial scale and could never climb higher on it.

The one thing this whole story illustrated – is just how dangerously stupid some “enlightened” western reporters really are.

HondaV65 on October 5, 2009 at 5:35 PM

You mean inconvenient details like school transcripts, an illegal alien aunt, a brother living in a hut, and a piece of paper that may or may not be locked in a vault in Hawaii?

kingsjester on October 5, 2009 at 5:25 PM

you’re right: these topics have been widely ignored in the nutosphere. perhaps we need a fairness doctrine to make sure that the birther viewpoint is duly represented in our political discourse. you on board?

sesquipedalian on October 5, 2009 at 5:37 PM

you’re right: these topics have been widely ignored in the nutosphere. perhaps we need a fairness doctrine to make sure that the birther viewpoint is duly represented in our political discourse. you on board?

Ummm, what does this have to do with Ahmadinejad not being a Jew? Oh, that’s right, nothing.

mjk on October 5, 2009 at 5:39 PM

Dude, we seriously do.not.want.him.

Attila (Pillage Idiot) on October 5, 2009 at 5:46 PM

sesquipedalian on October 5, 2009 at 5:37 PM

Listen, horse lover. I said may or may not. If you can’t read, stay away. The illegal aunt and brother in the hut are facts that Mr. President chooses to ignore.

kingsjester on October 5, 2009 at 5:47 PM

Funny, I heard A-Jad’s last name was Taint, from the village of Funk.
I still want to throw pig blood on him, Carrie style.

HornetSting on October 5, 2009 at 5:55 PM

The illegal aunt and brother in the hut are facts that Mr. President chooses to ignore.

kingsjester on October 5, 2009 at 5:47 PM

so should you. after all it’s not his fault that daddy couldn’t get all of them into yale.

sesquipedalian on October 5, 2009 at 5:59 PM

and since when do righty bloggers care about inconvenient details, anyway?

sesquipedalian on October 5, 2009 at 5:18 PM

Pot, this kettle. Come in, Pot.

BadgerHawk on October 5, 2009 at 6:03 PM

A crazy Jew with a nuke. A crazy gentile with a nuke.

They both have nukes. They’re both crazy. End result is the same.

spmat on October 5, 2009 at 6:22 PM

Whatever, he is still a DICK.

cat-scratch on October 5, 2009 at 5:05 PM

That.

Spiritk9 on October 5, 2009 at 6:28 PM

No matter Ahmadin’s heritage, he still has a friend in the White House.

Bishop on October 5, 2009 at 5:26 PM

+1

Laura in Maryland on October 5, 2009 at 6:30 PM

Semi-OT Red Headline on Drudge:
ARAB STATES LAUNCH SECRET MOVES WITH CHINA, RUSSIA, FRANCE TO STOP USING DOLLAR FOR OIL TRADING… DEVELOPING…

Harpazo on October 5, 2009 at 6:32 PM

Too bad for him. He could have used some good old Jewish roots and integrity.

I’m not Jewish but I have solid roots and integrity through the study of the Jewish texts and the New Testament.

Key West Reader on October 5, 2009 at 6:36 PM

Who else does Mahmoud hate? Homosexuals!

Mahmoud has a wide stance. His father had a wide stance. He comes from a long line of wide stances.

tuffy on October 5, 2009 at 6:40 PM

Mahmoud has a wide stance. His father had a wide stance. He comes from a long line of wide stances.

tuffy on October 5, 2009 at 6:40 PM

Ahmadi-ne-jihad: Wide Stance. Zo Zeggzy.

Key West Reader on October 5, 2009 at 6:48 PM

….or does he?

Hening on October 5, 2009 at 6:53 PM

Isn’t it just like a Jew to deny it!

Lonetown on October 5, 2009 at 6:57 PM

It’s just the same everywhere. Negative PR/smear jobs regarding one’s past or roots.

It’s interesting how we have that in common with Iran. Hey, we have deep splits among people, too.

Shoot, we should sit down and have a cuppa Joe, with all this common experiences.

AnninCA on October 5, 2009 at 7:15 PM

I don’t know if he’s Jewish or not but he did announce his upcoming marriage today. It is rumored that the happy couple will appear on an upcoming episode of Dancing With The Stars.

Oldnuke on October 5, 2009 at 7:37 PM

Mahmoud Sonderkommando Ahmadinejad?

Whatever his ancestry, he certainly now needs a good Freudian Psychiatrist.

profitsbeard on October 5, 2009 at 8:18 PM

Sounds like some politically motivated mud slinging.
Oh, well. It was amusing, but otherwise unimportant.

Count to 10 on October 5, 2009 at 9:37 PM

Jewish ancestry, no jewish ancestry. It doesn’t diminish the fact that he’s a lunatic in dire need of a couple of hits of Thorazine and a well-tailored straight jacket.

Driefromseattle on October 5, 2009 at 11:24 PM

***and a tiny one at that***
seejanemom

ouch :-)

jimver on October 6, 2009 at 12:31 AM

Where in the hell is michael Morron.?

where in the hell is the aclu (they have to be able to sue)
for something ..

Where are all of the so caled reporters/
Oh yea there too busy investigating american citizens
who are against obama

veteranoutrage on October 6, 2009 at 11:17 AM