Video: Tracy Walsh’s story and ObamaCare
posted at 4:47 pm on October 3, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Tracy Walsh spoke at the general session at the Defending the American Dream Summit today, and sat down with me for an interview this afternoon. Tracy is a stay-at-home mom who got a devastating diagnosis that led her to choose a double mastectomy. She talks about how her situation would have changed in a government-run system with a comparative effectiveness panel narrowing or eliminating her choices. She also talks about her lack of political activism prior to ObamaCare.
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Sometimes, it ain’t just politics: It’s Life or Death that’s at stake
If he’s allowed to succeed, Obama will shorten many people’s lives
Janos Hunyadi on October 3, 2009 at 4:52 PM
Shorter lives for average Americans, the more resources for the illegals and others that the filthy liar wants to cover.
highhopes on October 3, 2009 at 4:58 PM
Democrats like to scream and yell about 47K ‘dying without insurance’. Will they also scream and yell about the numbers that WILL DIE while AWAITING help under ObamaCare?
GarandFan on October 3, 2009 at 5:07 PM
No, they won’t scream and yell about the thousands that will die. They will pretend it isn’t happening. Just like they do when 1,000,000+ people show up to a tea party in Washington.
Puddleglum on October 3, 2009 at 5:10 PM
They’ll be as concerned about them as they are about the current Iraq/Afghanistan military dead. IOW, you won’t be hearing anything about them, as they won’t be politically useful anymore.
AZCoyote on October 3, 2009 at 5:14 PM
I’m waiting for Dave Rywall’s amusing response to this person’s attack on the Canadian healthcare system.
Her story: seven months from diagnosis to cure. Private health insurance. Canadian uncle denied treatment, whith other Canadian relatives put on long wait lists.
unclesmrgol on October 3, 2009 at 5:18 PM
Probably one of the most compelling interviews I have seen this year. Thanks for posting this, Ed.
God bless you and your family, Tracy.
itzWicks on October 3, 2009 at 5:21 PM
Like she knew what was best for her when the elites are so much better informed.[/s]
jukin on October 3, 2009 at 5:31 PM
Maybe Tracy Walsh can tell us what would happen to her if her husband loses his job and she eventually wants to find insurance on her own. Will this be a pre-existing condition preventing her from getting health insurance?
mycowardice on October 3, 2009 at 5:39 PM
In listening to Tracy Walsh’s story I found myself wondering what the choice Obamacare would have made for her. Keep in mind, she opted for a more radical treatment. She made the decision based on her desire to be there for her five children.
I don’t know which is scarier about Obamacare 1) some bureaucrat mandating bilateral mastectomies for all instances of breast cancer since it is a more certain way of becoming cancer-free or 2) mandating women undergo the less radical treatment option even though there are potentially more downsides and a far more lengthy and painful.
highhopes on October 3, 2009 at 5:40 PM
Wow. Just wow. All you got out of this clip is hatred of Tracy Walsh? What kind of monsters support Obamacare and the filthy lying coward who is pushing this legislation?
highhopes on October 3, 2009 at 5:42 PM
Those, in Obama terms, are patriots who understand that their well-being isn’t as important as furthering the life of that illegal alien who comes up with a higher score on the quality of life scale.
highhopes on October 3, 2009 at 5:44 PM
Hatred of Tracy Walsh? Simply because I am trying to expand on her point? What kind of intellectual honesty is it to tell me I show hatred for Tracy Walsh.
Maybe it’s more you hating Stacie Ritter, “whose twin daughters are being denied coverage by CIGNA for the followup care they need from the side-effects of cancer treatment” (http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/cigna-still-their-old-tricks-theyre-d)
mycowardice on October 3, 2009 at 5:45 PM
That is why it is important for individuals to make that choice!
PrincipledPilgrim on October 3, 2009 at 5:50 PM
There are already provisions in place to take care of that eventuality.
Oldnuke on October 3, 2009 at 5:50 PM
This is something that does need to be reformed. I haven’t heard anyone say the current system is perfect. However, there are many solutions to that problem. It isn’t the govt option or nothing.
PrincipledPilgrim on October 3, 2009 at 5:52 PM
You can’t ignore what might be behind all of this…
If Obama and his ‘shadow government’ gets it’s way, they will be the ones deciding who gets care and who does not, and politics will have everything to do with it…
Seven Percent Solution on October 3, 2009 at 5:53 PM
You were downright angry that Tracy Walsh had a successful outcome under the current system. Her point was that she had choices. You wanted to see her insurance policy so you could critique it with your own bias. Don’t you dare talk about intellectual honesty when you are nothing but a troll.
As to Stacy Ritter. What I hate about monsters like you is that you always use anecdotes when it comes to issues like this. You extrapolate the worse instances of a system and proclaim it as a universal truth. I refuse to stoop to your propaganda. Let Stacy Ritter’s story stand or fall on its own merits.
highhopes on October 3, 2009 at 5:54 PM
Tracy has an interesting story that reinforces my views that Obaama/Pelosi/Reid Care is just a sham and yet another power grab by the Democrats.
I’m well aware of the Canadian health care system, as I have worked in Montreal and experienced first hand how it works. A friend of mine there is a radiotherapist and knows first hand how bad it can be. Cancer patients can have delays of up to 18 months to 2 years to get treatment, AFTER they get diagnosed; and that can take weeks or months. The decision on the treatment available is not made by a doctor, but by a faceless bureaucrat. The health care system in Quebec is so broke, that a few of the hospitals in Montreal have closed down radiology and radiotherapy.
If the travesty known as ObamaCare gets passed, there could very well be a massive revolt at the polls in 2010, and hopefully get this horrible grab at 15% of the economy killed.
Ed, thanks for posting that interview. When are you going to post your speech?
simkeith on October 3, 2009 at 5:55 PM
“The blood of the martyrs is the seed of the Church.” –Tertullian
PrincipledPilgrim on October 3, 2009 at 5:59 PM
Any option reforming this would attack the sacrosanct view that it should be the free market deciding what health insurance looks like and not the government. If you really believe in the free market, you should also believe in companies picking their own customers.
I am not angry at Tracy or anyone that has good success with the system. The issue that needs reform are the cases where there is no success, either due to a lack of coverage, under coverage or selective coverage (for example when issurance companies pick what treatment they will cover, even if your doctor disagrees).
As for Stacy Ritter, I was trying to see if it’s not you hating Stacy, and I guess you’ve shown that you don’t care much for her or her story.
mycowardice on October 3, 2009 at 6:02 PM
Leave it alone. You can’t reason with negative people who enjoy their own misery and contrariness.
Angry men stir up strife. Don’t cast pearls before swine.
PrincipledPilgrim on October 3, 2009 at 6:03 PM
this is the answer to David Brooks’ wondering if political conservatism is a “religion” because of our unamerican refusal to compromise.
One party is building a nation of clients instead of citizens. They don’t give a damn about consequences. They will revive the old fascisti motto: “Nothing without the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state.” All must buy in. All who fail to prove their compliance will be punished. All must obey while they write for administrative review. It is not for the client to say the system works or not. We will be informed and directed.
There is no civil answer to robbery, no compromise. Either you submit, or you call it robbery and fight it.
Chris_Balsz on October 3, 2009 at 6:09 PM
I was at my Mom’s this morning and she had on msnbc or cnn, one of those, and there was a liberal woman on there laughing it up about a lady at one of the town halls who, in this libtard’s words, “waited in line for hours to get into a town hall to protest maybe having to stand in line for health care. It doesn’t make sense.”
They. Just. Don’t. Get. It.
mrt721 on October 3, 2009 at 6:11 PM
I do.
People should not be able to go purchase auto insurance after they’ve totaled their cars. It is a natural consequence to the choice they made to not having insurance beforehand. And if they have a history of speeding tickets and wrecking cars, they should expect higher rates.
Likewise, no one should expect to be able to secure health insurance at the same rate as a young healthy person first buying into insurance. If insurers were forced into doing so, it would not encourage honest behavior. Who would bother purchasing health insurance until they got really sick?
However, there are so many things that could be changed about health insurance to make it more inexpensive and competitive. HSAs, cross-state competition, tort reform to name a few. Also the rules could be changed such that if one already has insurance, they can’t be canceled due to an illness. And the COBRA rules could be changed as well to not make it outrageously expensive.
I believe in tackling specific problems that allow the most freedom for the individual. I know that free market solutions always bear more personal risk for individuals but I love freedom more than security.
It sounds like your philosophy is to love security more than freedom which means we will never agree on the approach. But at least one needs to keep their thinking consistent with one’s philosophy.
PrincipledPilgrim on October 3, 2009 at 6:15 PM
Oops. Should read “no one w/ preexisting conditions should expect…”
PrincipledPilgrim on October 3, 2009 at 6:16 PM
God Bless you and your family, Tracy.
d1carter on October 3, 2009 at 6:38 PM
Tracy makes a lot of assumptions, such as not being able to get the type of insurance she has, etc.
The problem is, that the other side of the story has actual stories. There’s no assumptions. People ARE being purged off of insurance in the middle of life-threatening treatment over terribly bogus reasons. They ARE unable to find insurance due to preexisting conditions.
Luckily, even most of the GOP I hear discussing these tragedies agree that reform is needed in this area.
AnninCA on October 3, 2009 at 6:41 PM
Sitting here once again on the back porch at the ranch.
Got a big birthday party going on at the pool for one of my hands. He just turned 23, and he’s got all his buds here and a bevy of hot young women who love to par-tay.
They’re all dancing and laughing and jumping in the pool, and just being forever young. The music’s loud, the way I like it, and it’s mostly country and Tex-Mex, with a little rock thrown in. But no rap… not allowed here.
But I’m far more drawn to Tracy’s story right now. There’s no question that ObamaCare would’ve left her to die.
It’s because this is not about healthcare. It’s about control, and the way to do that is to impose a system where the government, in the so-called interest of saving costs so that more can supposedly be covered, can call all life and death shots.
It’s the ultimate power grab, far more dark than taking over banks and car companies. And, Tracy, God bless her, knows this better than you and I.
How fitting. They just put on Bon Jovi’s “Livin’ on a Prayer”.
Aren’t we all?
TXUS on October 3, 2009 at 7:01 PM
I think someone else mentioned this, but Cobra takes care of this situation.
LASue on October 3, 2009 at 7:08 PM
Alan Grayson (D – FL) says that Republicans want people to die soon. However, this is a specific example of how ObamaCare will probably lead to quicker deaths. The “death squads” that Palin alluded to would indeed take place.
mydh12 on October 3, 2009 at 7:20 PM
You mean like the guy the filthy lying coward kept bringing up who was excluded from coverage and died because of a pre-existing conditions he didn’t even know about? The reality in that case was the guy didn’t miss a single treatement and died three years after his supposed demise with having been treated the whole time.
Sorry, you shameless troll, put up or shut up. Give us concrete examples of these legions of individuals being dumped for being sick or STFU (which is what you should have done long ago).
highhopes on October 3, 2009 at 7:22 PM
This is very rare. A lot more rare than rationing that occurs (and is in fact built in) in state-run healthcare systems. It should tell you something that the examples that Obama cherry picked for his speach before Congress were either outright misrepresentations or simply dishonest in their narrative. Conservatives do, as you say, want reform in healthcare. However, we start from the standpoint that we already have the best system and this is important because it removes the ‘crisis’ from the situation and makes us consider the actual consequences of any solutions. We get nervous when liberals look to using a crisis in order to get control of 1/6th the economy using bills they haven’t even really read.
gwelf on October 3, 2009 at 7:26 PM
My mother died of complications of breast cancer. Hardly anyone actually dies of the cancer itself. We don’t need a cure for cancer; we need a cure for fracking complications! She admitted to having some idea something was wrong but waited too late to get it checked. (Ladies, don’t make the mistake my mother made. Do monthly self-exams, and regular screenings by the medical types.)
My little sister caught hers in time and had double mastectomy. I have daughters and granddaughters who I’d like to get the same chance my sister got, if it comes to that. From what I’ve heard about the countries where health care is a “right”, I don’t believe they will have that chance if we follow them.
They say the personal is the political. As Sarah Palin says…
“You betcha!”
The Monster on October 3, 2009 at 7:27 PM
Your comments about that birthday party put me in mind of the Saturday night I spent in Ardmore, OK. I was passing through on my way to a job in California but most of the motel was taken up with cowboy-type individuals in from the hinterlands for the night. It gave me glimpse into a completely different part of the US than I had ever known before.
I disagree with you that Obamacare would have left Tracy Walsh to die. Obamacare would have dictated down to the pill what kind of treatment she would receive. She wouldn’t have had any choice in the matter. She opted for a more radical option than many would have chosen but it was her choice based on the fact that she wanted to be there for her five young children.
highhopes on October 3, 2009 at 7:34 PM
I’m utterly against Obamacare but can’t endorse COBRA as a good solution either. It’s an extremely expensive stop-gap program because, like Obamacare, it takes everybody without question.
If the government is going to mandate that insurance companies can’t disqualify based on pre-existing conditions, they must also support the individual mandate whereby people are forced to purchase insurance. Otherwise those most likely to buck demographic trends will only buy insurance when they get sick.
highhopes on October 3, 2009 at 7:42 PM
Cobra is a temporary solution that, besides being temporary, not every laid off worker can afford. And the problem is that once you go without coverage for some period of time, trying to get back in with a pre-existing condition can be disastrous.
mycowardice on October 3, 2009 at 8:22 PM
COBRA is designed to bridge the time between loss of health insurance due to leaving one employer and finding a new one. It does that, I know because I’ve used it. As far a extremely expensive, that’s a relative term. It costs the individual more but that’s because you are now paying what the employer used to pay in addition to your normal premium for the same insurance. It is usually less expensive than buying your own private policy. In case of a more prolonged loss it can usually be converted to a private policy after some time period.
Oldnuke on October 3, 2009 at 8:27 PM
She had options. Under Obamacare the public “option” would become the public NO-options anymore after a few short years.
Mojave Mark on October 3, 2009 at 8:28 PM
Seven (7) WEEKS from her diagnosis to cure, not months!!! And that’s American weeks, not Canadian weeks.
And she had the choices that Obamacare only talks about.
fred5678 on October 3, 2009 at 9:26 PM
It’s particularly expensive because to use Cobra, by design, you have to have lost your job, which means that financially paying over a thousand dollar per month for coverage might not be obvious to do. Anyways, if you are using Cobra to avoid the problem of preexisting condition, it’s not very logical. It’s like buying chocolate chip ice cream to get chocolate chips. Yes, Cobra serves a purpose, but only because the individual market is so poorly regulated (as opposed to the employer based market) that people rather pay Cobra premiums to avoid the pre-existing condition problem.
mycowardice on October 3, 2009 at 9:44 PM
No need to lecture me, after all I said I’d actually used it. I know how much it costs and how it works. I also had enough foresight to plan for emergencies and enough responsibility to make the necessary sacrifices to take care of my family. Don’t bother to hand me that sad old song that not every can be that fortunate, cause that’s just horse crap. The number of people who fall into the ‘bad luck’ category is very small and there are things in place to take care of thme. You seem to be under the delusion that everything can be made perfect by some government mandate. Got news for you ain’t gonna happen. All men may be created equal but nothing mandates that they stay that way. If you want regulation and someone to take care of your useless butt from birth to grave move to Cuba.
Oldnuke on October 3, 2009 at 10:16 PM
No just like they didn’t give a crap about the 2million South Vietnamese that were butchered because of THEIR abandonment. They really are racist.
david kumbera on October 3, 2009 at 11:05 PM
By you, I meant “someone”. (i.e. if someone is using COBRA, etc.)
Instead of having to move to Cuba, another solution would be to fix the failures in the system.
The funny thing is that you had the foresight, therefore what? People that don’t have the foresight are SOL? How badly should we punish people without your foresight? File for bankruptcy? Go without care?
It’s one thing to punish people that commit crimes by sending them to jail. It’s another to “punish” people because they don’t have the foresight to have a huge savings account at their disposal ready to start paying for COBRA premiums.
mycowardice on October 3, 2009 at 11:36 PM
My husband took his COBRA policy with him when he left his last job. That was 17 yrs ago. He has been self-employed since then. We still have the same policy. After some time, they converted the policy to an individual policy, which is what most companies will do. It is expensive. However, it covers everything. Isnt your health your #1 priority? It is ours.
Nice interview, Ed.
di butler on October 4, 2009 at 12:18 AM
You are punishing people with foresight to help people without foresight. You are advocating rewarding bad behavior. If everyone knows that THEY are responsible for their own health care there would be less purchases of HD TVs and more purchases of health care policies.
Health care comes from people. People who deserve to be paid for their time and expertise. To give care to someone, the gov’t (with your encouragement) is taking away from someone else. If I decide to help someone in need that is one thing. To have money taken from me to help someone in need is something else again. It is thievery pure and simple.
onthego on October 4, 2009 at 12:37 AM
It’s isn’t funny that I had foresight it’s called responsibility. How much should I be punished for those who don’t have the foresight to take care of themselves. The only people who can be blamed for punishing those unfortunates is themselves. Hey you want fair lets do this. You probably live in a space which is really way too large for your needs. Lets let some poor unfortunates who haven’t had the foresight to put themselves in a position to be as well off as you come live with you. We’ll just have them move in and you support them. It’s only fair. Of course you get no input into who you will support. We’ll set up a committee to decide. In addition you pay for all their health care. If they can’t get coverage you just take out a loan to pay for it. How about you put your money up or shut up. I’m sick of idiots like you clamoring on about re assigning the fruits of MY labor to those who didn’t have the same foresight that I had. I’d like to make the decisions about where my money gets spent and take it out of the hands of government. This country is an amazing place. The only limit on achievement is whatever we limit ourselves to. We are a truly exceptional people. Whiners like you who go on and on about justice and making things fair for everybody do nothing except take up space and breathe air. Let me clue you in life ain’t fair and you can’t make it that way by giving up your freedom to some government agency. Get a clue. I repeat if you or anybody else wants to be taken care of cradle to grave then just pack up and move someplace where they do that instead of trying to destroy the one truly exceptional bright spot in the world.
Oldnuke on October 4, 2009 at 12:45 AM
He could always get another job, or she could get one herself. And contrary to popular belief, there are insurance companies out there that cover folks with pre-existing conditions.
COBRA isn’t an insurance policy, it’s legislation that allows you to keep getting the policy you had as an employee. You’re getting the same policy, from the same insurer that you had as an employee, only your ex-employer is no longer paying for any of it. It’s not more expensive…it costs what it always cost….you just have to pay for the whole thing under COBRA.
The only way to make it not be so expensive to the end user is to insist someone else pay part of the cost instead. Not sure why it’s anyone’s responsibility to pay part of another person’s insurance premium simply because that person thinks it’s outrageously expensive.
If you want the same high dollar plan you had as an employee, you should have to pay for it. Your ex-employer shouldn’t have to, and your neighbor shouldn’t have to either. And if it’s too expensive, there are plenty of options available for less than the typical employer-offered plan. Not everyone has a pre-existing condition holding them back.
xblade on October 4, 2009 at 1:20 AM
Like I said earlier, COBRA is not available to all and really serves to patch the fundamental problem that health insurance is tied to your employment. COBRA is as good as the backup tire you have in the trunk if you drive on a road full of broken glass. The real goal should be to clean up the road and not make COBRA necessary.
As for the many arguments of rewarding bad behavior, using that logic, should the police department also check who is making the 911 call to see if we are not going to reward bad behavior? Should the fire department check as well?
In reality, you only want to live in a country where you have yourself, and at best others like you. To hell with the irresponsible ones. To hell with the risktakers or the ones that make great work that is not rewarded financially. When you look at a painting made by a dead artist that never had financial success during his or her lifetime, do you think that it’s too bad for them and they should have done something else? When a battered spouse calls the police, do you think she should have had the foresight to pick their spouse better?
This “don’t steel the fruits of my work” is a great talking point, but it’s not based on any moral reality.
mycowardice on October 4, 2009 at 8:44 AM
You got that right!
Stupid analogy, typical of you and your ilk. Make a false 911 call or a false fire alarm and see what your reward is.
If you come to my home and steal from me expect to get shot. How’s that for moral reality?
Oldnuke on October 4, 2009 at 8:56 AM
As a friend used to say:
- Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.
- Never wrestle with a pig. You get muddy and the pig enjoys it.
Mangy Scot on October 4, 2009 at 9:48 AM
If you want ham for Christmas then somebody’s got to get into the pen with the pig :-)
Oldnuke on October 4, 2009 at 9:57 AM
If a woman knows her husband is physically violent, has called the police twice on him, but still remains with him, should the police show up on the third call, or tell her “Sorry lady, but you are being irresponsible by staying with him, so we are not coming — we don’t want to reward your bad behavior”?
It’s a great description of your attitude that all robbers are the same and all deserve to get shot by you.
mycowardice on October 4, 2009 at 10:25 AM
Well maybe she could run for congress since those dirtbags will not be under the system they are foisting on us but rather on a taxpayer funder gold plated sytems.
bullseye on October 4, 2009 at 10:37 AM
What you fail to understand, and what oldnuke does understand , is that someone coming onto my property illegaly, uninvited and committing a crime is a threat to me and my family. If a criminals wants a combo of buckshot, hollowpoints and rifled slugs in their chest, all they need to do is threaten my family.
bullseye on October 4, 2009 at 10:41 AM
If you are saying what I think you are saying then I think I have seen the masterpeice of ignorance.
One of the main failures in our system is the failure to undertake true tort reform. Morons like John “Silk Pony” Edwards are making millions with frivilous lawsuits and stunts like ‘channelling dead babies for fun and profit”
It’ no surprising that the dems and ozero won’t touch tort reform. After all, Ozero and Chewie are both lawyers.. Oh wait, both of them had their illinois licences to practice revoked…hmmmmnn
So tell me you fountain of unfathomable wisdom… How will a health plan by ozero be better for us considering
1. Ozero’s brother lives in a mud hut on 12 whole bucks a year. Ozero did NOTHING to help HIS OWN FREAKING BROTHER
2. Odumbo argued to allow newborn babies to be thrown into hospital storerooms to die of dehyrdation, exposure and starvation. Yep, I want a person like that in control of healthcare for me and my family.
3. The olympic wonderkid put a guy in as safe schools czar who encouraged a pedophilial statutary rape relationship. Yep, with judgement like that our quality of life is sure to go up.
I am going to do something that is very unchristian and pray that you live long enough to see a couple of your family members die long agonizng deaths under rationed obamacare if this goes through.
bullseye on October 4, 2009 at 10:51 AM
mycowardice on October 3, 2009 at 5:39 PM
All she would have to do is enter her State’s high risk pool. Might want to do your homework.
SteppedInWhat on October 4, 2009 at 11:39 AM
Nope not my attitude at all. All robbers are not the same. A real actual thief takes a risk. Progressives on the other hand hide behind the skirts of the nanny state to take what’s not theirs. I have more respect for real thieves than I do for those who exhibit such cowardice. As far as all of them being shot by me wrong again. I’ll only shoot the ones robbing me. You can take responsibility for yourself and handle whoever robs you in whatever way you please.
Oldnuke on October 4, 2009 at 12:17 PM
That’s the best answer ever. The solution to a failing private insurance scenario is a public one?
mycowardice on October 4, 2009 at 4:20 PM
Under the HIPPAA laws, no.
NEXT!!
Mommynator on October 4, 2009 at 7:10 PM
LAPD is doing just that with burglar alarms. To fairly distribute resources. Surely you care enough to agree.
Pretty much, because fiscal responsibility isn’t a class issue. It’s a moral issue. Any thinking person can come around. And economically speaking, if the system were not built on 3rd parties paying from piles of unused premiums or the bottomless well of government programs, prices would have to fluctuate–instead of permanently increasing.
Yes.
Depends. Does she want the necessary support network to enable her to continue living with a wifebeater, without having too long a wait for rescue? I’m certainly against supporting perpetual failure.
It’s based on the moral reality that you have NOTHING to distribute fairly, until somebody ELSE produces it for you.
Chris_Balsz on October 4, 2009 at 8:00 PM
Really? If she stops carrying insurance for a while, then wants to sign up again, she won’t have to worry about pre-existing conditions?
That’s a bit different. Unless you say an alarm system falsely detecting an alarm is “bad behavior”, I am not sure it counts. But indeed, there is a finite amount of resources to go around, but I think the priority should be based on a life threatening scale.
mycowardice on October 4, 2009 at 8:44 PM
That part of your ‘thinking’ is the very problem with obamacare.
1. Obama’s administration is full of people who espouse eugenics in one form or another.
2. Rham Deadfish’s brother, an advisor, argues for an ‘importance to society’ test for distributing rationed care
3. Obama voted to throw newborn babies into hospital storerooms to die of dehydration, exposure and starvation and we are supposed to believe he really cares about us?? Perhaps you agree with his stance on infanticide
4. Government is notoriously inefficient in distributing resources. What will happen in ozerocare is that some bloated appartchik will be deciding who gets care. You know, people with great characters like
Rod “what’s in it fo me” blagovich,
Elliott “5 grand a night” spitzer,
cold cash jefferson,
“marines are murders’ murtha,
bawney ‘i didn’t know a hohouse was being run out of my basement’ fwank,
Rham “dead dead dead” emanuell,
Charlie “Taxes, I don’t have to pay no steenking taxes” rangell,
Nancy “Lemme give my husband a hundred grand” Pelosi
“I’m a commie” Van Jones
Safe school czar Kevin “WOW it’s cool your are 15 and getting rammed by an old guy” Jennings
Etc etc etc.
Yep, health care will be like other government wonders such as the post office, medicare, medicaid, the VA ‘hospitals’, Cash for clunkers. Wow, I’m gonna give up my regular job and study undertaking. It’s going to be a booming business under odumbocare
Oh, yeah, the guy who makes a personal plea to get the olympics in chicago and ends up in LAST PLACE is going to be able to re-design and run our health care.
Gee, and I used to try to believe there were no truly stupid people.
bullseye on October 4, 2009 at 9:08 PM
I used to believe there were only polite and civilized people.
mycowardice on October 4, 2009 at 10:42 PM
Your preference is different indeed. First you want to make sure the people that have money have access to health care. Because that’s the way the system currently works. The test today is “Can you afford care”.
And next, you go for the “Don’t get sick” plan. Because you could obviously be poor and healthy and hence make it through life without coverage.
As for the rest, it’s the “out of luck” plan.
mycowardice on October 4, 2009 at 10:44 PM
Well, your hero, ozero kind of set the stage with his mocking of McCain’s War injuries, “Lipstick on a pig” and giving the finger to hillary and McCain.. Oh, and grabbing his little package during the national anthem.
Go ahead and complain about civil discourse. You have not answered one question about obama. Real simple questions here.
1. Obama voted to throw newborn babies, survivors of botched abortions, into hospital storerooms to die of dehydration, exposure and starvation. Do you or do you not agree with him on this. YES OR NO.. C’mon, that can’t be too difficult of a question.
2. Given (1) above, do you,or do you not, think that position held by obama, will in any way affect the tone of the health care plan he is foisting on us.. YED OR NO.. another easy one for you.
Obama is not ‘for the people’. Obama is for Obama, pure and simple. Oh, and for an essay question, tell us how you feel about State Senator Obama trading control of a hospital board to tony rezko in exchange for a sweetheart deal on a mansion. Obama should be in jail on felony corruption charges not sitting as Potus.
If Obamacare becomes a reality I will literally laugh in the faces of those who supported it and find their loved ones dying because of the inevitable rationed ‘care’. “so, how is that ‘public option’ working out pal?? Too bad your wife didn’t get the chemo she needed. Guess old obama needed money for another mansion”. Does that sound nasty???
Well if it is too freaking bad. You and the other followers of the chicago fraud are doing your best to wreck the best healthcare system in the world.
You can’t put the toothpaste back into the tube. When your loved ones get the “Sorry, we declined your request. We will however provide adequate morphine until they have the courtesy to die” you will hear the voices of those who warned you. We will be in the recesses of your brain mocking you. Then you will know you followed a false messiah but it will be far too late.
Sweet dreams.
bullseye on October 4, 2009 at 11:53 PM
They don’t say anything about the million babies killed in the womb each year–the equivalent of a 9/11 tragedy EVERY DAY. Those babies don’t just lose five or ten years of elderly life, but their entire lifetimes, over somebody else’s “right to choose”.
Steve Z on October 5, 2009 at 9:29 AM
Tracy Walsh’s story epitomizes the results of government programs established by politicians to satisfy the politicians ego. Fortunately, Ms. Walsh made her own decision in the end, and became active in caring for others.
MSGTAS on October 5, 2009 at 10:04 AM