It’s come to this: Polanski’s suffered enough, says … feminist leader; Update: Polanski memoir recounts more underaged girls
posted at 4:17 pm on October 1, 2009 by Allahpundit
Another gold nugget buried in that LA Times piece that Ed linked earlier, even purer and finer than the quote from Harvey Weinstein trumpeting Hollywood’s famous, er, moral compass.
Honestly, at the rate we’re going, it can’t be long before some celebrity and/or liberal tells us that the kid was asking for it.
Jonathan Kuntz, a visiting professor in UCLA’s Cinema and Media Studies school, said the local reaction may be a version of the “there, but for the grace of God, go I.” “I think that there are a lot of folks in Hollywood in the late ’60s and ’70s who may have done a lot of things they weren’t really proud of, and may have been participating in very similar things,” Kuntz said. “And it touches on a question that’s been around for a long time: whether the celebrity is above the law.”
Some of the industry’s most prominent women said they believe Polanski, who faces a sentence as low as probation and as high as 16 months in prison for pleading guilty to having sex with a minor, should be freed. “My personal thoughts are let the guy go,” said Peg Yorkin, founder of the Feminist Majority Foundation. “It’s bad a person was raped. But that was so many years ago. The guy has been through so much in his life. It’s crazy to arrest him now. Let it go. The government could spend its money on other things.”
In fairness to the sisterhood, this sort of cretinism appears to be an outlier. NOW dropped the hammer on Polanski apologists last night and Katha Pollitt took off the gloves early this morning. Quote: “That some of his defenders are women is particularly disappointing. Don’t they see how they are signing on to arguments that blame the victim, minimize rape, and bend over backwards to exonerate the perpetrator? Error of youth, might have mistaken her age, teen slut, stage mother–is that what we want people to think when middle-aged men prey on ninth-graders?” Click through and read down to the end for the final, devastating line, which captures just how much of a bipartisan PR catastrophe this is turning into for Hollywood. I’m skeptical that there’ll be financial consequences, but Weinstein, at least, sounds vain and stupid enough to pursue his defense of a child-rapist to the very end. The longer this drags on, the bigger and more bitter the backlash gets. Frankly, I hope they go all-in; I’m more curious than ever to see where else that famous “moral compass” points.
I’ve been pushing this piece by a child-rape survivor on Twitter and in Headlines but let me take the opportunity to push it again here. It starts brutal and gets more brutal as it goes along. Don’t miss it. Exit question: Has anyone read the source material for the detail on Wikipedia that Polanski started, ahem, “dating” Nastassja Kinski when she was 15? The footnotes link to a book that’s not online and a movie I haven’t seen. Anyone out there able to confirm/deny that this has been reported somewhere besides Wikipedia?
Update: Exit question answered by Reason’s Matt Welch, who flags this passage from Polanski’s memoir involving Kinski a.k.a. “Nasty.”
One day a German gossip columnist invited me out on a double date with two girls he wante me to meet. Both were young and, in different ways, strikingly beautiful. One of them was rather dowdily dressed. I asked her name. “My friends call me Nasty,” she said. [...] Very late that night, after a long round of discos, the four of us ended up in my suite. Leaving Nasty with the journalist, I took the other girl, a stunning blonde, to bed. By the time I surfaced the journalist had gone. Nasty was half-asleep in an armchair in the sitting room. Taking her by the hand, I led her back into the bedroom.
We never repeated this threesome, though I saw a lot of both girls thereafter. I dated the blonde for several weeks, but it was Nasty who grew on me more and more. [...]
Nastassia introdued me to her mother, who discussed her career with me [...]. That was when I first learned Nastassia’s age. She was only fifteen.
We made love more than once during my three months in Munich. [...] On the night we met I’d thought her a couple of years older than her friend, who was, in fact, seventeen.
Exit question: How many more teenyboppers has he, ahem, “made love” to?










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“It’s bad a person was raped. But that was so many years ago. The guy has been through so much in his life. It’s crazy to arrest him now. Let it go.”
Wow, where was this stellar free-thinking chick during the priest scandal? There were
marybel on October 1, 2009 at 6:20 PM
Although this is not political, it’s an excellent example of how mentally unhinged progressives really are. No one would associate these liberal morons with conservatism.
The good news for Polanski…had he done that to my daughter, he wouldn’t be facing extradition…he’d be dead a long time ago.
orlandocajun on October 1, 2009 at 6:25 PM
You fail in both reading comprehension and empathy. Go “share” with someone else.
Blake on October 1, 2009 at 6:28 PM
These people are freaking me out. He’s an artist, he’s suffered enough, fuggetaboutit. It’s too much. The man is a sexual deviant. People are hunting child molesters down in America, finding where they live and saying “not in my neighborhood.” Yet this guy gets a pass? I just don’t get it.
scalleywag on October 1, 2009 at 6:33 PM
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The Left has not only shown its nature in this but also rent itself in schism. I’m enjoying it; nothing is better than having an opponent shoot himself in the face, ass, and foot all at once.
Nothing wrong there with any facet being about you; we all have a personal stake here. I used to be a liberal. My former wife was abused, and I recall his ‘justification’ when he was sort-of confronted.
I understand betrayal. When people we look up to though we shouldn’t–like Hollywood–and they shaft us, then those people deserve the fullest of just wrath. It’s only human, after all.
You’ll do fine in the end; your heart seems in the right place. I confess I have yet to grasp the kind of heart that would let a child rapist go. I never suffered that kind of thing, but what I know of women who have makes me want to see Polanski pay in full for his crimes.
I seek no revenge, but rather want fair play. In the case Roman, it’s about fairness.
For you–you’ll heal in your time. Take the time to grieve, then forgive. Forgiveness is never about the attacker. It’s about the victim at last finding some sense of quiet, to heal the soul.
Liam on October 1, 2009 at 6:33 PM
Serial pedophiles should be serially punished. Or is that seriously.
At any rate none of this concurrent crap.
Blacksmith8 on October 1, 2009 at 6:38 PM
I believe in the death penalty, but it should be applied within strict limits.
Violent and premeditated sexual assault of a child, a la Polanski, warrants the death penalty. Nor that he’s going to get that, of course.
Liam on October 1, 2009 at 6:43 PM
I knew it, I KNEW IT! I’ve been barking at my husband ever since I read the gritty details of Polanski’s crime that it seemed too slick, too rehearsed. I would bet every cent my husband will ever earn that the poor 13 yo is only the tip of the iceberg. I sincerely hope there is some intrepid reporter out there going through Polanski’s whole life with a fine tooth comb. And someone might want to talk to his daughters…
winewife on October 1, 2009 at 6:45 PM
Did Polanski have any connection to the movie ‘Lolita’?
That would have been unbearably sweet-sweet shadenfreude!
Ogabe on October 1, 2009 at 6:46 PM
Liam, thanks for your kind thoughts. Two points need to be reinforced, though.
First is that it’s not only women who have been abused, as the linked article from the Daily Beast (and my own experience) makes clear. Second is that, as the article also makes clear, nobody ever “gets over” child abuse. It’s a gift that keeps on giving, as I’m sure you learned from your ex-wife.
I’m 64, and still growing. It’s been a trip, and you’re right about forgiveness and its healing properties. I knew a long time ago that all I could change was me, and I’ve had a lot of experience at letting go. Abused kids realize too early that there is no one to depend on; the good part is that their eyes are wide open, and not too many mistakes get made more than once.
Because I’m an artist, I’ve lived among liberals my whole life. Because my awareness is not to be denied, I’ve learned that conservatives (or as I call them, “normal people,) are the only ones that can be trusted – even if I don’t give that trust easily.
Good for us. Good guys last longer, and every day is new.
warbaby on October 1, 2009 at 6:49 PM
Natasha Kinski, as age 15, is allegedly Polanski’s former ‘girlfriend’.
Pedophiles, like serial killers can be stopped only one way: execution.
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bannedbyhuffpo on October 1, 2009 at 6:55 PM
You are SO right on that, and you just exploded the notion of Polanski’s defenders that Samantha’s forgiveness of Polanski somehow annuls his actions. Not to try putting you on a poster, but you remind of a powerful point about people who have never been victims deny as if they know better.
I live among liberals, too, in the artsy-craftsy part of Buffalo. My son once quipped the most conservative man he knows chooses to live in the most liberal part of town.
For what it’s worth, you’re doing okay. You seem not only a survivor but more a winner.
Hollywood will be what it is; those people tend to sit around ‘yessing’ themselves to death and feel all warm and squishy for it. Would only those elites dare come down to be average people like you, me, and the others who post here.
Regards,
Liam
Liam on October 1, 2009 at 7:05 PM
Living a half-block away from a junior high, every day for nine months of the year I see the kids walk past my house on their way to school and back home. Most are my neighbors’ kids, whom I’ve watched grow up since they were toddlers.
The girl Polanski RAPED was A THIRTEEN YEAR OLD JUNIOR HIGH EIGHTH GRADER for Chrissake!!
After he fled the U.S. justice system in 1979, he hid in France and immediately began RAPING a FIFTEEN YEAR OLD Nastassja Kinski.
Castrate this sick degenerate slime pig, lock him up, and throw away the key.
Sorry you brilliant Hollywood “progressives” … Polanski deserves no special consideration for being an “artist”!
He’s a filthy, perverted, dirty old man lecher. And needs to be dealth with as such by civilized society.
bannedbyhuffpo on October 1, 2009 at 7:17 PM
FIFY.
newton on October 1, 2009 at 7:24 PM
“Polanski…more underage girls…”
I knew it. People who behave as cravenly as Polanski did with the 13-year old victim (about whom he’s been charged and found guilty) RARELY ever limit this offense to “just” one victim. Likely as not, Polanski’s been doing this to many, many victims for a long time.
Ugly does not even come close to calling him what he is. Detestable fails, too.
Lourdes on October 1, 2009 at 7:26 PM
Liberals have come up with a new crime category: perpetratorless crime!
Holger on October 1, 2009 at 7:31 PM
Put ‘em all in general population. Tattoo ‘Short Eyes’ on his forehead.
TinMan13 on October 1, 2009 at 7:35 PM
Aaarrrrrghhhhhhh!
All I want to do is take my 10 year old to see an animated movie this weekend as the rain pours down and now I’m looking at an hour or two of research to find out how many of these depraved, godless kooks were involved and whether I can spend the $20 or not? Our world really sucks.
gopmom on October 1, 2009 at 8:00 PM
But be Clarence Thomas with the allegation of a comment hanging over your head involving pubic hair and a can of coke……well if the left haid their way, he’d be ready for parole in about a year if they had their way.
R Square on October 1, 2009 at 8:24 PM
He did make Chinatown, which is about a dirty old man who rapes a girl, raises their daughter to adolescence, and tries to rape her, and in the end walks off with the girl…
Chris_Balsz on October 1, 2009 at 8:41 PM
Is Mr. Polanski a frequent visitor to Thailand…we know he has been as recently as 2005.
R Square on October 1, 2009 at 8:50 PM
I look forward to hearing about his new autobiographical screen play re: the psychological terror of a convicted child molester living in an American federal prison.
R Square on October 1, 2009 at 8:52 PM
I know. =/ My daughter really wants to see The Fantastic Mr Fox. Stupid Wes Anderson.
herrevery on October 1, 2009 at 9:00 PM
Well, perhaps this will reinstate what once was the standard defense for a rape charge, “Hey, the little slut was just beggin’ for it. It wasn’t MY fault.” Now we can just refer to it as “The Polanski Defense”.
As an after thought, if this imbecile from the Feminist Majority ever ends up as the “involuntary recipient of a male reproductive assembly”, do you think she’ll be so blase?
oldleprechaun on October 1, 2009 at 9:29 PM
Polanksi is a hedonist, and possibly suffers from some kind of bi polar disorder. He seems to have a weird libido, he can only be aroused by really young girls? Does it have anything to do with his height? Young girls would be theoretically shorter than him and less threatening than an adult woman. This may come down to mechanics, and a man who lives his life at a very base level. He doesn’t know the difference between having sex with someone, and a closer emotional bond people can “love” one another, and never be physical…well theoretically.
Dr Evil on October 1, 2009 at 9:33 PM
Sharon Tate was taller than Roman Polanksi
Dr Evil on October 1, 2009 at 9:38 PM
Well they are saying Polanski is 5’4″ tops more likely 5’3″ it would be difficult for a short man to compete with taller muscular men for women of fertile age? This may all go back to anthropology:)
Natasha Kinsky is stated to be 5’6″ I only see photos of the two of them together where she is in a chair and he is sitting above her on the arm of the chair?
It doesn’t matter but I can see why he would turn to drugging. It is really yucky – the Hollywood crowd is nursing a kind of freak to their bosom. Who do they think he is Toulouse Lautrec?
Dr Evil on October 1, 2009 at 9:49 PM
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005544/
Weinstein’s fingers are all over the place.
No Fraggle Rock movie for my kids.
herrevery on October 1, 2009 at 10:06 PM
Where’s that troll who shares Polanski’s pedophilic views on little girls, ThackerAgency?
Compare and contrast:
and
I can’t tell any substantive differences, can you?
Religious_Zealot on October 1, 2009 at 10:17 PM
With any luck, it will soon be a guy named Bubba.
MarkTheGreat on October 2, 2009 at 8:28 AM
How can we forgiver Kevin Jennings for his conduct years ago and not forgive Roman Polanski too?
FeFe on October 2, 2009 at 11:49 AM
The goverment’s money, eh?
So the Left’s standard of justice is now “How much will it cost?”
Spitfire9 on October 2, 2009 at 2:05 PM
The San Quentin Film Club needs a new President.
What a wonderful opportunity.
If he lives that long on the inside.
No matter what the Hollywood ME Worshipers think, or the jury that never heard this case might have thought, there is one jury that thinks very little of f****** little girls (as Polanski chortled in his ’79 interview), that’s the jury of his peers, inside a California State Correctional Institution.
I can predict their verdict. And predict, as well, that it will be swift and painful.
IndieDogg on October 2, 2009 at 9:07 PM
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