It’s come to this: Polanski’s suffered enough, says … feminist leader; Update: Polanski memoir recounts more underaged girls
posted at 4:17 pm on October 1, 2009 by Allahpundit
Another gold nugget buried in that LA Times piece that Ed linked earlier, even purer and finer than the quote from Harvey Weinstein trumpeting Hollywood’s famous, er, moral compass.
Honestly, at the rate we’re going, it can’t be long before some celebrity and/or liberal tells us that the kid was asking for it.
Jonathan Kuntz, a visiting professor in UCLA’s Cinema and Media Studies school, said the local reaction may be a version of the “there, but for the grace of God, go I.” “I think that there are a lot of folks in Hollywood in the late ’60s and ’70s who may have done a lot of things they weren’t really proud of, and may have been participating in very similar things,” Kuntz said. “And it touches on a question that’s been around for a long time: whether the celebrity is above the law.”
Some of the industry’s most prominent women said they believe Polanski, who faces a sentence as low as probation and as high as 16 months in prison for pleading guilty to having sex with a minor, should be freed. “My personal thoughts are let the guy go,” said Peg Yorkin, founder of the Feminist Majority Foundation. “It’s bad a person was raped. But that was so many years ago. The guy has been through so much in his life. It’s crazy to arrest him now. Let it go. The government could spend its money on other things.”
In fairness to the sisterhood, this sort of cretinism appears to be an outlier. NOW dropped the hammer on Polanski apologists last night and Katha Pollitt took off the gloves early this morning. Quote: “That some of his defenders are women is particularly disappointing. Don’t they see how they are signing on to arguments that blame the victim, minimize rape, and bend over backwards to exonerate the perpetrator? Error of youth, might have mistaken her age, teen slut, stage mother–is that what we want people to think when middle-aged men prey on ninth-graders?” Click through and read down to the end for the final, devastating line, which captures just how much of a bipartisan PR catastrophe this is turning into for Hollywood. I’m skeptical that there’ll be financial consequences, but Weinstein, at least, sounds vain and stupid enough to pursue his defense of a child-rapist to the very end. The longer this drags on, the bigger and more bitter the backlash gets. Frankly, I hope they go all-in; I’m more curious than ever to see where else that famous “moral compass” points.
I’ve been pushing this piece by a child-rape survivor on Twitter and in Headlines but let me take the opportunity to push it again here. It starts brutal and gets more brutal as it goes along. Don’t miss it. Exit question: Has anyone read the source material for the detail on Wikipedia that Polanski started, ahem, “dating” Nastassja Kinski when she was 15? The footnotes link to a book that’s not online and a movie I haven’t seen. Anyone out there able to confirm/deny that this has been reported somewhere besides Wikipedia?
Update: Exit question answered by Reason’s Matt Welch, who flags this passage from Polanski’s memoir involving Kinski a.k.a. “Nasty.”
One day a German gossip columnist invited me out on a double date with two girls he wante me to meet. Both were young and, in different ways, strikingly beautiful. One of them was rather dowdily dressed. I asked her name. “My friends call me Nasty,” she said. [...] Very late that night, after a long round of discos, the four of us ended up in my suite. Leaving Nasty with the journalist, I took the other girl, a stunning blonde, to bed. By the time I surfaced the journalist had gone. Nasty was half-asleep in an armchair in the sitting room. Taking her by the hand, I led her back into the bedroom.
We never repeated this threesome, though I saw a lot of both girls thereafter. I dated the blonde for several weeks, but it was Nasty who grew on me more and more. [...]
Nastassia introdued me to her mother, who discussed her career with me [...]. That was when I first learned Nastassia’s age. She was only fifteen.
We made love more than once during my three months in Munich. [...] On the night we met I’d thought her a couple of years older than her friend, who was, in fact, seventeen.
Exit question: How many more teenyboppers has he, ahem, “made love” to?










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I mean
if you leave a piece of meat out in front of a dog
how long before he bites for it?
/monica belluci
blatantblue on October 1, 2009 at 4:18 PM
Feminist leaders have jumped the shark.
HornetSting on October 1, 2009 at 4:18 PM
Um, no.
mankai on October 1, 2009 at 4:21 PM
Feminist Leaders jumped the shark during the ’08 election. What comes after jumping the shark?
portlandon on October 1, 2009 at 4:21 PM
When do the other children raped by Polanski start coming forth?
d1carter on October 1, 2009 at 4:21 PM
Any compassion for guys doing hard time for rape rape, like 10-20?
I thought not.
BobMbx on October 1, 2009 at 4:22 PM
Ace had that yesterday. Someone said he was dating Kinski even before he raped the 13 year old. 15 must’ve been too old.
lorien1973 on October 1, 2009 at 4:22 PM
If you hate Mark Foley, but excuse Polanski; you have real problems.
lorien1973 on October 1, 2009 at 4:23 PM
OK, so what’s the standard here? If someone was born into a world of hardship and poverty then he should be excused if he violently attacks someone 30 years later? The logical conclusion is that anyone who doesn’t want to be attacked should shun people with such upbringing, keep them far away from you and never hire them or let them live near you, unless you want to suffer attack for which there will be no punishment or recourse.
Isn’t being a sensitive, caring liberal fun?
Socratease on October 1, 2009 at 4:23 PM
Haha – telling. The government doesn’t have any money, they are spending my money, my kids money, your money, but I digress… Perhaps they can save some money by shutting off the NEA? I mean, come on, there are hundreds of millionaires in ‘the arts’ who can fund their own, right?
Funny stuff. People still don’t realize their words will come back to bite them in the keyster, I guess.
Ah well, back to my dvd burner, anyone need some free movies?
reaganaut on October 1, 2009 at 4:23 PM
I question Jonathan Kuntz’s credentials as a “feminist leader.”
She invokes a misogyny of the “Great Unwashed”
J_Crater on October 1, 2009 at 4:24 PM
This would be a fun game.
It’s bad that Manson killed a bunch of people, but that was so long ago.
lorien1973 on October 1, 2009 at 4:24 PM
Any statement from Schwarzeneggar? Isn’t he the man with the choice now.
redshirt on October 1, 2009 at 4:25 PM
I’m sure there are plenty, but the scumbag and his scumbag friends probably drugged them all up so much, they don’t remember. Which is good in the long run, I suppose.
reaganaut on October 1, 2009 at 4:25 PM
Hmmm. You become Dan Rather?
HornetSting on October 1, 2009 at 4:25 PM
This guy is a pedophile and needs to be casterated. Plain and simple.
BTW: Dan Rather is on Foxnews with Neil crying about CBS. Talk about desperate.
milwife88 on October 1, 2009 at 4:25 PM
Feminists jumped the shark during the Clinton administration when they supported the accused rapist, philanderer and serial harasser.
He’s their dream date.
dogsoldier on October 1, 2009 at 4:25 PM
Hey, man. Some dude here all but said that I am asking for it when I dance. So I wouldn’t be surprised if some Mensa candidate from Hollywood says it soon.
Maybe they could make it into a d-bag PSA like they did for health reform.
mjk on October 1, 2009 at 4:25 PM
Funny, I don’t remember people chanting this meme during the Priest Abuse Catholic church disgrace.
If I remember correctly, it was the libs who were saying “Aha!!!! Child Rapists!!!!” But than again Priests don’t direct such wonder movies. Right?
portlandon on October 1, 2009 at 4:26 PM
It’s bad that McCarthy put the question to so many people, but that was so long ago.
redshirt on October 1, 2009 at 4:27 PM
Remember feminists saying “no means no”?
It’s one thing they were right about, but now this.
forest on October 1, 2009 at 4:27 PM
I admit that having to spend 30 years in France is not something I would look forward to.
MarkTheGreat on October 1, 2009 at 4:27 PM
Full circle stupidity.
the_nile on October 1, 2009 at 4:27 PM
If I didn’t know better I’d swear that the innocent victim is a pro-lifer or something the way the perp is being lionized!
Branch Rickey on October 1, 2009 at 4:27 PM
Thacker has. I guess he’s not enough of a celebrity, at least outside of HA.
MarkTheGreat on October 1, 2009 at 4:27 PM
I remember hearing rumors to this effect around the time “Tess” came out. So yes, it’s at least been alleged somewhere besides Wikipedia (as Wikipedia–and the internet–didn’t even exist at the time). But I’m afraid I couldn’t tell you where.
Blacklake on October 1, 2009 at 4:28 PM
Jumping the shark-shark?
the_nile on October 1, 2009 at 4:28 PM
Allah:
Polanski, A Biography: The Filmmaker and Voyeur
Not sure but I have a feelingyou could find it in one of those little used books stores around your area.
upinak on October 1, 2009 at 4:29 PM
[Head thunks against keyboard.]
They just don’t have a clue how stupid they sound.
MamaAJ on October 1, 2009 at 4:29 PM
Feminist leaders did not “just” jump the shark or in 2008 either. They completely excused Bubba where if he had headed AT&T or Merrill Lynch he would have been crucified.
Marcus on October 1, 2009 at 4:29 PM
Let’s say this was the nephew of the son of the sister of the wife of a GOP politician’s gardener. Would they still want to let it go?
ronsfi on October 1, 2009 at 4:29 PM
These Hollywood Klan members sure stick together. Hollywood uber alles.
MB4 on October 1, 2009 at 4:30 PM
I think you give NOW and company too much credit, Allah. Just like with the Playboy “10 conservative women I’d like to hate f***” list and Letterman’s “joke” about A Rod knocking up Sarah Palin’s underage daughter, The Sisterhood once again had to be dragged kicking and screaming into issuing a half-hearted condemnation only after their fellow leftists kept stepping on their cranks with their lame defenses of the indefensible, thus making the story something they could no longer ignore.
Gator Country on October 1, 2009 at 4:30 PM
According to other celebrities, and those who spend their lives worshiping celebrities, yes.
MarkTheGreat on October 1, 2009 at 4:30 PM
Already been done.
Liam on October 1, 2009 at 4:30 PM
I’m not sure he has suffered at all.
Liberalism is all about avoiding the consequences for bad behavior.
Get pregnant, get an abortion.
Get an STD, get treated and your parents never need to know.
Don’t study in school and Obama will redistribute income.
And the beat goes on…
The Rock on October 1, 2009 at 4:30 PM
Riding it bare back?
MarkTheGreat on October 1, 2009 at 4:30 PM
and I have the falsified documents to prove it. =)
portlandon on October 1, 2009 at 4:31 PM
The Feminist Majority Foundation does not represent me.
myrenovations on October 1, 2009 at 4:31 PM
The N.O.W. gang. A day late and a dollar short. Nobody at now owns a computer? Nobody owns a TV. Days go by before they respond? Just like their timid response to Clinton mess that they were, way late in the game, forced to respond to.
Jeff from WI on October 1, 2009 at 4:31 PM
Feminist “leaders” jumped the shark during the 1996 election, when they supported Clinton for re-election after credible evidence emerged that he was a serial molester of employees and young women. They stayed on the shark when credible evidence emerged that he was a rapist.
Jaibones on October 1, 2009 at 4:31 PM
Um, no.
[mankai on October 1, 2009 at 4:21 PM]
Certainly not in theory. But in practice? It definitely is and it has been for decades.
Dusty on October 1, 2009 at 4:31 PM
Have these people not seen France…? And, with money?
Diane on October 1, 2009 at 4:32 PM
Well then, can we direct the shark to EAT the feminists?
HornetSting on October 1, 2009 at 4:32 PM
These people can go to hell . . . this pig can never be punished too much.
rplat on October 1, 2009 at 4:33 PM
Feminists jumped the shark in 1996.
Vashta.Nerada on October 1, 2009 at 4:33 PM
If this waste of skin is ‘set free’, I fear for all underage girls, and boys, for that matter. It is Hollyweird.
HornetSting on October 1, 2009 at 4:34 PM
Apparently Nicole Brown Simpson was unavailable to comment on this story…
Branch Rickey on October 1, 2009 at 4:34 PM
LOL. I like where you are going with this….
Feminists today, Shark Chum tomorrow?
portlandon on October 1, 2009 at 4:34 PM
We’ve asked the shark to eat the feminists.
HornetSting on October 1, 2009 at 4:34 PM
i was going to take a weekend trip to paris this fall
now im not so sure.
blatantblue on October 1, 2009 at 4:34 PM
They did with Clinton.
They did with Palin.
Now they’re doing it again.
John the Libertarian on October 1, 2009 at 4:34 PM
Or the nephew of a famous MA senator?
MarkTheGreat on October 1, 2009 at 4:35 PM
I think Arnold’s Drive-In burns down.
Scott P on October 1, 2009 at 4:36 PM
professional courtesy
MarkTheGreat on October 1, 2009 at 4:37 PM
Wonder how many of our current visitors of this nations many fine penal institutions tried the “hard knocks” defense but still didn’t get to go live in France and bum around the rest of Europe?
TQM38a on October 1, 2009 at 4:37 PM
I see no cause for complaint on our side over this. Many Leftists defend Polanski, but others among their ilk who wanted to remain ‘above the fray’ are now forced to enter in. They now have no choice but to skewer their fellow travelers who think otherwise, now matter how gently.
This is a golden opportunity, to unite Left and Right a little. The Left has marginal and changeable values, while more on the Right have concrete reasons for our beliefs. The Left is fracturing a bit over this. I say we use it! Not to hammer, but to maybe unite a little, even if in one matter.
Liam on October 1, 2009 at 4:38 PM
AllahP, The Daily Mirror says:
It doesn’t say where it was reported, it may have been the book, I don’t know.
John_R on October 1, 2009 at 4:38 PM
Dr. Charles G. Waugh on October 1, 2009 at 4:40 PM
I wonder if there were other girls we never heard about. This kind of behavior is usually not a one time thing.
Terrye on October 1, 2009 at 4:40 PM
Try as I might, I just can’t recall how my “youthful errors” ever involved slipping pills and booze to an under aged girl and then sodomizing her on a friend’s sofa.
Maybe I grew up in Mayberry RFD or something.
Gator Country on October 1, 2009 at 4:41 PM
Well, give him a break. He only… well… he did that, too… uh.. he didn’t violate her nose, did he?
Daggett on October 1, 2009 at 4:41 PM
Would even members of the KK Klan defend a fellow member who drugged and raped a 13 year old girl? I doubt it. The Hollywood Klan is like a Super Klan. Do they take a secret oath to defend fellow members of their Klan? Do they get jobs in Hollywood for defending a fellow Klan member? Are they less likely to get jobs if they don’t defend a fellow Klan member?
MB4 on October 1, 2009 at 4:41 PM
It’s interested to compare and contrast the left’s feelings towards ACORN and Polanski compared to that of the Catholic Church during the Child Sex Scandal.
Nethicus on October 1, 2009 at 4:42 PM
I have it on good authority that it wasn’t “rape-rape.”
TheUnrepentantGeek on October 1, 2009 at 4:42 PM
The only real quote from Nastassja Kinski herself that I read was this “Roman is a lot better director then lover”, and that was when she was just “18″, actually 16 by her statement. She says she was born 2 years later then what is being reported.
I am glad this came up Peg Yorkin (and thanks for your $110,750 to dems last year) has proved that women bodies are just a playground for grown men…and that if you don’t get caught, and enough time passes, raping a women is just fine.
I don’t see how he suffered, since the judge went berserk when pictures of him partying right after his plea was shown to him…and Roman has lived a life of luxury, dating young girls for these past 30 years. I would never think of raping a young girl, but I would love to have lived his life of “misery” these past 30 years.
Got her millions the hard way…divorced her husband Bud Yorkin and got 50 million in the settlement…the perfect feminist.
right2bright on October 1, 2009 at 4:42 PM
Yeah, being exiled to France and most of the rest of the world is horrible, why even Dear Liar’s wife had to make a sacrifice in going to Copenhagen.
rbj on October 1, 2009 at 4:43 PM
yeah it was knife-knife. What is the difference? Raped or Knifed.. those people take your soul.
upinak on October 1, 2009 at 4:44 PM
I’m on your side. Like you, I imagine, I committed my ‘youthful errors’ at age 16 or so, not at age 44.
Their argument of ‘youthful errors’ falls flat unless everyone on the planet lives to be 800
Liam on October 1, 2009 at 4:44 PM
You know, I think it’s a great idea to just let Roman Polanski get on with his life.
After all, it wasn’t rape-rape.
And, it was so long ago.
While we’re at it, Roman, how about we let Charles Manson go?
After all, he didn’t stab-stab your wife and unborn child to death.
He didn’t even stab them at all.
He wasn’t even there.
I think Roman Polanski and Hollywood should start a movement to free Charles Manson.
Justice is blind, after all, right?
SouperConservative on October 1, 2009 at 4:45 PM
Follow the natural progression of the “I’m OK, You’re OK” generation into mature perversion.
Rapists and friendly enablers of rape see themselves as OK.
maverick muse on October 1, 2009 at 4:45 PM
As we all know, feminism has nothing to do with feminism. It’s all about the agenda.
darwin on October 1, 2009 at 4:45 PM
Your post raises the interesting dilemma…those lynchings, they happened decades ago, isn’t it about time we forgive and forget about slavery?
Anything (since rape of a child is about as bad as it gets) is forgiven after 30 years…
right2bright on October 1, 2009 at 4:46 PM
Just give me exclusive access to and use of Polanski’s homes, cars and bank accounts, I’ll go to Europe and continue his suffering there, in the name of Art (or even Gabe, I don’t care), while he does his time here.
Arbalest on October 1, 2009 at 4:46 PM
Our cultural elites are neither.
They are not cultured and they are not elites.
The “experts” who are media go-tos on issues such as this are morally and intellectually bankrupt jackasses.
We have a Congress that’s full of corrupt incompetents and a White House full of juvenile delinquents.
We need to stop listening to what passes for “leadership” in this country and take seriously who we look to for guidance next time.
NoDonkey on October 1, 2009 at 4:47 PM
Where is our resident pervert defender…ThackerAgency?
right2bright on October 1, 2009 at 4:47 PM
Has she asked the victim how much she has had to go through in her life because she was raped?
Beaglemom on October 1, 2009 at 4:47 PM
That sounds like a challenge.
IF he is released, maybe it could be in my neighborhood. Can you say Castle Doctrine?
I’m just sayin’
Blacksmith8 on October 1, 2009 at 4:47 PM
apparently, champagne, quaaludes, and lots of anal sex.
GoodSamaritan on October 1, 2009 at 4:50 PM
Feminist Majority Foundation Contact them. Is Peg Yorkin speaking for them? If not they need to disavow her.
batterup on October 1, 2009 at 4:50 PM
Will somebody kick that damn shark awake and tell him he has a job to do……
HornetSting on October 1, 2009 at 4:51 PM
What does Wendy Murphy say about this? She’s the loon that says consensual sex is rape. Although, to be fair to Wendy, Polanski didn’t have consensual sex so it’s probably okay to her.
SouthernGent on October 1, 2009 at 4:52 PM
So what she’s saying is … if someone rapes a young girl, then leaves the country for an extended period then it’s cool to come back? All will be forgiven?
darwin on October 1, 2009 at 4:52 PM
Justice might slumber, but it does not die. Polanski will pay for his crime.
spmat on October 1, 2009 at 4:52 PM
So, when do Jane Mayer, Jill Abramson and Anita Hill offer an apology to Clarence Thomas for doing, um, nothing?
JammieWearingFool on October 1, 2009 at 4:52 PM
Probably hiding, twitching under a blanket in his mommy’s darkened basement. With Lefties at last coming out against Polanski, his ideology and psyche are damaged. Along with those of us who keep his posts and keep quoting him, to his own detriment.
Liam on October 1, 2009 at 4:53 PM
Underage sex and it’s practice in Hollywood is more common than you think. Even Brooke Shields was posing nude in make-up at the wise old age of 10.
Guardian on October 1, 2009 at 4:53 PM
Do you think there might be other children who have been abused? Like say French children or Swiss children? Could this be why they got him NOW? Pedophiles generally don’t change their ways.
bloggless on October 1, 2009 at 4:55 PM
The hypocrisy is simply unprecedented. Hollywood repeatedly makes films about the poor, weak, and downtrodden getting the shaft from the rich and powerful. But when the time comes to hold one of their own to the same standard, they make excuses and paint the villain as a victim. Sickening.
BTW, I wonder what Jodie Foster and Jonathan Kaplan, the director of The Accused, think about this.
Erich66 on October 1, 2009 at 4:56 PM
Humbly submitted for a FIFY
;D
Branch Rickey on October 1, 2009 at 4:56 PM
THEY HAVE A NEW MOVIE COMING OUT!!! ABOUT A 16 YEAR OLD WHO IS AWAKENED BY HAVING A SEXUAL AFFAIR WITH A MAN TWICE HER AGE!!!!!!! THESE PEOPLE LOVE THIS TRASH!!!!! AN EDUCATION!!!!
bloggless on October 1, 2009 at 4:57 PM
The left has just been so obnoxious lately. Grayson flapping his gums, Whoopi defending child rapists, Carter doing his race baiting shtick..for a bunch of folks who supposedly won the last two elections they sure are pissy.
The DOW took a whipping today. Off Topic, I know, but it seems all sorts of thing are going awry all at once..Maybe all of this is just another distraction.
Terrye on October 1, 2009 at 4:58 PM
AnninCA actually insinuated that this was a defense…that he shouldn’t be tried by today’s standards, but by the standards of the day. I guess she thinks 30 years ago rape was not an offense, and acceptable?
right2bright on October 1, 2009 at 4:58 PM
http://www.films42.com/tribute/polanski.asp
Evidently this is an open secret. How many more underage
womengirls do you think he has dated?MaaddMaaxx on October 1, 2009 at 4:59 PM
When I saw that movie in the theatre, I grabbed my girlfriend’s hand and walked out. Ten year olds should never be seen nude on film. Yet, her mother wasn’t arrested for child abuse. Only in Hollywood.
If anyone wanted to photograph my daughter nude before she was 18, his carcass would have been left for the bears in the PA woods.
Liam on October 1, 2009 at 4:59 PM
And grateful for the improvement in the post…
right2bright on October 1, 2009 at 4:59 PM
Yes, it’s always “bad” when “a person” is raped. When a 13 year-old “person” is drugged, raped and sodomized by a 44 year-old reprobate with a history of unhealthy attraction to underage teens, I think I would go out on a limb and call it “regrettable.”
Cicero43 on October 1, 2009 at 5:00 PM
Seething!
Abby Adams on October 1, 2009 at 5:00 PM
…
exception on October 1, 2009 at 5:00 PM
it just boggles the mind re: their mindset…
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but, I’m sure someone is going to make a movie about this
cmsinaz on October 1, 2009 at 5:02 PM
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