A Right-Left consensus building on Polanski

posted at 11:36 am on October 1, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Every once in a while, an issue comes along that has such clear-cut implications that it rearranges the usual political alignments — perhaps especially so when the issue has little to do with electoral politics.  Such is the case with Roman Polanski’s arrest in Switzerland on the basis of a 32-year-old arrest warrant for jumping bail and fleeing the US after admitting to statutory rape — and committing rape and sodomy on a 13-year-old girl he’d first drugged.  After an initial blast of outrage from the Hollywood Left, those cultural elites find themselves further and further marginalized as the vast majority of people from across the political spectrum vent their own outrage over the shabby and despicable excuses offered for Polanski’s actions.

First, the Washington Post editors offer their measured offense at Polanski defenders, and calls the fugitive a coward:

Roman Polanski’s apologists — as typified by the comments of Swiss filmmaker Otto Weisser, Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein, film and TV celebrity Whoopi Goldberg — don’t let basic facts, or even simple decency for that matter, get in the way of their defense of this notorious director. Ever since Mr. Polanski’s arrest Saturday in Switzerland on a fugitive warrant in a case involving sex with a 13-year-old girl, a number of Hollywood luminaries — Martin Scorsese, Jonathan Demme, David Lynch, to name but a few — are demanding his release. This follows the equally misguided defense of Mr. Polanski by European political and cultural authorities. Thankfully, a backlash is developing, fueled by the public getting a clear understanding of Mr. Polanski’s sordid crime and his cowardice in evading justice.

What matters is not that Mr. Polanski is 76 or that he has a talent for filmmaking or that his own life has been filled with unspeakable horrors or that the case is decades old. It doesn’t even matter that his underage victim, now grown up, forgives him. What matters is that this man admitted to having sex with a 13-year-old whose undisputed testimony details how he gave her champagne and Quaaludes, got her naked in a hot tub and wouldn’t listen as she — terrified — said no. He was originally charged with sodomy and rape but agreed to plead to a lesser offense. He jumped bail and fled the country out of fear the judge would give him more prison time than the paltry 42 days supposedly promised by prosecutors. He has been living with impunity and in luxury ever since.

One wonders whether these same editors will eventually address columnist Anne Applebaum’s serial misrepresentations of the facts of the case, as well as her conflict of interest in it.  One doesn’t need courage for that task — just simple editorial competence.

Susan Estrich, not exactly a conservative stalwart, blasts Polanski and his defenders at Rasmussen in her column, “Roman the Rapist”:

Roman Polanski was on his way to a film festival in which he was to be honored for his life’s work when he was arrested last weekend. Some 100 European big shots have released a statement in protest: “Filmmakers in France, in Europe, in the United States and around the world are dismayed by this decision. It seems inadmissible to them that an international cultural event, paying homage to one of the greatest contemporary filmmakers, is used by the police to apprehend him.”

I’ve got news for the big shots: International cultural events are not safe havens for criminals, nor is there any reason they should be. A criminal is a criminal, even if he is “one of the greatest contemporary filmmakers.” There’s nothing “inadmissible” about it, guys. …

When reality intervened and it became clear that a judge might well sentence him to time in prison, Polanski did not seek to withdraw his guilty plea and go to trial. He did not await the sentence and then appeal it. Free on bail pending sentencing, he decided to thumb his nose at the American justice system and flee the country. Fleeing from justice violates the “most elementary” principles of our legal system, to quote the misinformed Mr. Temime. It’s every bit as serious as raping a 13-year-old.

For the past 30 years, Roman Polanski has been not just a convicted rapist but a fugitive from justice. … The fact that he got away with it this long is not a reason to declare him innocent. He is a guilty man who fled from justice. It is time, past time, that he was returned.

Estrich makes an important point about the wishes of the victim in this matter.   In two ways, it’s irrelevant.  First, Polanski committed a crime against the judicial system by fleeing, an offense that must be corrected regardless of the underlying case, and for which Polanski must pay some price.  Otherwise, bail means nothing, especially to the rich.

Second, the state assumes the role of complainant in criminal cases at trial for a reason.  As part of the social contract, we agree to forgo personal and/or clan blood atonement for crimes against us in place of a rational adjudication of crimes, which is not the universal condition, as we discovered somewhat belatedly in Iraq and Afghanistan.  If we want to support the rule of law rather than vendettas, then we need to pursue Polanski and everyone else who runs out on sentencing after a conviction.

No major blog has as large a contingent of Hollywood elites as the Huffington Post, but even there, lines have been drawn.  While some of HuffPo’s bloggers have demanded Polanski’s release, the commenters there have mainly savaged Polanski’s supporters.  Nina Burleigh, writing from Italy, wonders why the cultural elite want to champion a sex offender, and draws a comparison to treatment of war criminals in an explicit attempt to goad Polanski apologists (via Howard Kurtz):

To these artists and other supporters of the arrested director, the incarceration of the director is the end of a witch-hunt, the persecution of a genius by low-level, un-imaginative legal drones, who wear un-cool suits and wouldn’t know a semiotic deconstruction if it smacked them in the face. If Polanski did anything wrong, and some, I think, would even say he did not, he should be forgiven for a single folly, committed way back in the ‘lude’ and hot-tub heyday of 1970s Hollywood debauchery. The rape of a 13-year old was hardly the worst offense committed at Jack Nicholson’s pad.

By this way of thinking, to arrest Polanski now is like arresting a woman for riding a bicycle in public because it was illegal in the 19th Century. But, to arrest Polanski now is also like apprehending a war criminal many years after the fact. The war criminal may be living in South America, tending his garden and making sheep’s cheese, and his victims blissfully reaching the age of non compos mentis, but it means something to the world that justice be served.

Comparing a Hollywood child rape to war criminal behavior will inspire outrage, guffaws, ridicule. Bring it on.

Hollywood’s response to all of this?  As Patterico discovered, it’s that their customers should shut up and let them instruct us on morality:

[Movie Mogul Harvey] Weinstein said that people generally misunderstand what happened to Polanski at sentencing. He’s not convinced public opinion is running against the filmmaker and dismisses the categorization of Hollywood as amoral. “Hollywood has the best moral compass, because it has compassion,” Weinstein said.

Hollywood has the “best moral compass”?  Not even its most ardent fans are going to buy that.  And it’s certainly good to have compassion, but apparently that compassion is limited to powerful film directors.  For that matter, it’s even more limited to politically correct film directors.  It’s certainly not given to the children that get victimized by the casting couch, as this incident clearly shows.

The danger for Hollywood in its knee-jerk support for a child rapist is in the divide it shows from its usual allies on the Left.  This, perhaps more than any recent issue or event, shows just how radical and fringe the entertainment industry has become, and how badly it has divorced itself from its consumers.  That lesson will not shock many on the Right, but perhaps it will serve as a Road to Damascus moment for others.

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Hollywood claims it has the “best moral compass.”

Secular Humanism, it is constantly changing and can be whatever the ‘consensus’ decides it is.

Abortion is okay now, Sex outside of marriage(Single parents)….all just a gradual slide as we come away from a Biblical Worldview into a Secular Humanist worldview.

Just a matter of time until Pedophillia is rationalized by a large consensus, Hollywood is just laying the groundwork for it now.

jp on October 1, 2009 at 11:39 AM

[Movie Mogul Harvey] Weinstein said that people generally misunderstand what happened to Polanski at sentencing.

And the best evidence of this is that Weinstein misunderstands what happened with Polanski. He was never sentenced. He fled before sentencing.

Pablo on October 1, 2009 at 11:42 AM

Anyone interested in this case really ought to read the transcript of Polanski’s guilty plea.

Pablo on October 1, 2009 at 11:43 AM

AP’s Twitter on the subject was as concise summation of the hypocrisy as can be found:

Word on the street: Polanski’s next film is so good, Europe’s going to let him bang an eight-year-old. It’s THAT GOOD.

michaelo on October 1, 2009 at 11:44 AM

Hollywood is the new Sodom and Gomorrah. I made the mistake of labeling the entire state of California that way. I realise that not all people from California are that way. However the “Hollywood Elite” mention in this post have no “moral compass”.

milwife88 on October 1, 2009 at 11:44 AM

Roman Polanski was on his way to a film festival in which he was to be honored for his life’s work when he was arrested last weekend.

Sure put a damper on that party, didn’t it. Although, maybe he will get an honorary degree for for his pictures of the girl, in absentia.

CBP on October 1, 2009 at 11:45 AM

Hollywood claims it has the “best moral compass.”

for Sodom and Gomorrah, maybe.

runner on October 1, 2009 at 11:45 AM

It’s nice to see common sense prevailing here. He’s scum and I understand why Susan Estrich is so upset. Just like the victim in the Polanski case, she too was raped many years ago. She talked about it on Fox a few years ago. I hope he does go to jail.

hmfearny on October 1, 2009 at 11:45 AM

20 comments or bust!

WashJeff on October 1, 2009 at 11:45 AM

[Movie Mogul Harvey] Weinstein said that people generally misunderstand what happened to Polanski at sentencing.

Harvey misunderstands what happened before that…he pled guilty! End of discussion.

Patriot Vet on October 1, 2009 at 11:45 AM

Hollywood claims it has the “best moral compass.”

“They Lie!”

elderberry on October 1, 2009 at 11:46 AM

A Right-Left consensus building on Polanski

There’s always been a “right-left” consensus. Everyone from HA to the NYT editorial page has said Pollanski should face the music. No prominent liberal politician or political commentator has said he should go free.

The only morons who think he should go scot-free are his Hollywood buddies, and I don’t see how deeming them “liberal” is relevant to the discussion at all. They’re just looking out for a colleague. Blaming this on the “left” is unbelievably dishonest, but at least it appears you’re going to stop doing it.

crr6 on October 1, 2009 at 11:46 AM

It doesn’t surprise me that Susan Estrich gets this right. She is a rational, coherent Dem. She has a moral compass and she is very strict about the law. She was the first female I believe to edit the Harvard Law Review and she earned it the old-fashioned way by having the highest GPA in the class, unlike another, whom they changed the rules for b/c he was “popular.”

JAM on October 1, 2009 at 11:46 AM

Dennis Miller said on O’Reilly last night that if some of the Hollywood Elite would read the transcript, they would change their opinion and back away. Unfortunately, their egos and lack of “moral compass” will not left them.

kingsjester on October 1, 2009 at 11:46 AM

Hollywood is amoral and soulless. Period.

kirkill on October 1, 2009 at 11:47 AM

Ha!

myrenovations on October 1, 2009 at 11:48 AM

Best policy towards Hollywood?…..I refuse to pay for anything that comes out of that cesspool of degenerates. Have for a long time.

PatriotRider on October 1, 2009 at 11:48 AM

What Hollywood and Liberals call “Compassion”, I call “Acceptance of Sin”.

You CAN Love a person and not accept their actions.

GoodBoy on October 1, 2009 at 11:48 AM

This, perhaps more than any recent issue or event, shows just how radical and fringe the entertainment industry has become, and how badly it has divorced itself from its consumers.

So true. And like the election of Obama, this incident signals the coming fall of liberalism, not its triumph. The filmmakers have gone too far. Obama has gone too far–and shown himself to be every bit as radical as the far right warned.

Liberalism has jumped the shark, crested the wave. A return to first principles is what the country wants.

PattyJ on October 1, 2009 at 11:49 AM

So when is there going to be a movie made on the life of Polanski?

albill on October 1, 2009 at 11:50 AM

Unless and UNTIL Perv Polanski receives the EXACT same punishment that Joe or Jane Q public would – this remains a travesty. The Hollywonks embarrass themselves on a daily basis so that is nothing new.

I only wish this had occurred in Texas – I’m betting we’d all be reading quite different headlines relative to this.

Katfish on October 1, 2009 at 11:50 AM

Looks like we have a fresh new outbreak of smug in Hollyweird. Storm’s gonna be a bad one…

Wanderlust on October 1, 2009 at 11:50 AM

We’ll find out later that these folks who signed the petition, didn’t really know what it said…

BKeyser on October 1, 2009 at 11:50 AM

I’ve always felt that one day should be added to the sentence for everyday that the guilty party is not in jail.
Polanski has been on the lam for 30 years, whatever sentence the judge gives him for the statutory rape conviction, 30 years should be added to it.

Would it be possible to reject the plea bargain, and go after Polanski on the full rape and sodomy charge?

MarkTheGreat on October 1, 2009 at 11:50 AM

Hollywood has the “best moral compass”?

In Hollywood, one’s compass consists primarily of his or her genitalia.

TXUS on October 1, 2009 at 11:50 AM

I haven’t been to the movie theater in months. Might never go again, except for the occasional Right Wing Christian film. Nope, I’ll go bowling or golfing or just running instead.

kirkill on October 1, 2009 at 11:50 AM

milwife88 on October 1, 2009 at 11:44 AM

did not notice your comment there right away, but hey, great mind and all that

runner on October 1, 2009 at 11:51 AM

So true. And like the election of Obama, this incident signals the coming fall of liberalism, not its triumph. The

filmmakers have gone too far. Obama has gone too far–and shown himself to be every bit as radical as the far right warned.

Liberalism has jumped the shark, crested the wave. A return to first principles is what the country wants.
PattyJ on October 1, 2009 at 11:49 AM

From your keyboaed to God’s ears.

VegasRick on October 1, 2009 at 11:51 AM

I’ve always found Susan Estrich to be a resonable spokesperson from the opposition. But only if it was the written word. Her voice is worse that fingernails on a chalkboard to me.

dish on October 1, 2009 at 11:51 AM

Thank you Martin Scorcese, Whoopie, Jonathan Demme etal for giving credibility to every known pedophile and pervert in the world.

You should be proud/

Knucklehead on October 1, 2009 at 11:51 AM

What Harvey MEANT to say:

“Hollywood has the best moral compass, because it has compassion….

….oh but I can’t say anymore because I’m late for my ‘Keep Abortion Legal’ rally at Planned parenthood”

battleoflepanto1571 on October 1, 2009 at 11:52 AM

The only morons who think he should go scot-free are his Hollywood buddies, and I don’t see how deeming them “liberal” is relevant to the discussion at all. They’re just looking out for a colleague. Blaming this on the “left” is unbelievably dishonest, but at least it appears you’re going to stop doing it.

crr6

How is it dishonest? All of those Hollywood buddies are liberal. It is ONLY liberals who are rallying behind him. As Ed points out here, not all of them are, but anyone who defends him happens to be liberal. Gary Sinise, Tom Selleck, Jon Voight and the other handful of conservatives in Hollywood aren’t calling for his realease! Of course being called a Hollyweirdo and liberal is redundant, but that is beside the point.

JAM on October 1, 2009 at 11:54 AM

There’s always been a “right-left” consensus. Everyone from HA to the NYT editorial page has said Pollanski should face the music. No prominent liberal politician or political commentator has said he should go free.

The only morons who think he should go scot-free are his Hollywood buddies, and I don’t see how deeming them “liberal” is relevant to the discussion at all. They’re just looking out for a colleague. Blaming this on the “left” is unbelievably dishonest, but at least it appears you’re going to stop doing it.

crr6 on October 1, 2009 at 11:46 AM

The same cultural elite that sold us Obama are the same cultural elite that are championing Polanski. Deny it all you want, but the fact remains. This is the radical left in all its glory. Drink it up.

Nat Hound on October 1, 2009 at 11:54 AM

Polanski needs a good California Sex Lawyer.

Akzed on October 1, 2009 at 11:54 AM

It’s funny how the rape of a 13 year old brings people together.

I think it’s sad that Polanski could have served his time by now and still had a decent career (if not better). Instead, he flees and makes this into a bigger gong show than it needed to be.

And Hollywood has a moral compass? Yeah, let’s check with those child actors who have all:
1. been to rehab by the time they were 20.
2. robbed a gas station/convenience store/whatever
3. went broke because of amoral agents/parents/etc
4. been placed in psychiatric hospitals due to mental illness
etc. etc, etc.

If Hollywood is the very definition of a moral compass than I’d rather be compared to Nazis, thank you very much.

mjk on October 1, 2009 at 11:55 AM

One of my favorite quotes came from another blog I believe was American Thinker but I am not sure. It asked a rhetorical question, “What if Polanski had sodomized Khalid Sheik Mohamed? Everyone in Hollywood wanted GWB/Cheney’s scalp because this was unacceptable torture and could not be tolerated. Now what would they say?

inspectorudy on October 1, 2009 at 11:55 AM

Computer technology is getting better and cheaper everyday.

I believe that in less than 20 years, it will be possible for computer animation to make characters that are so realistic, that it will be impossible to tell the difference.

When that day arrives, anybody, working in their basement will be able to create movies. While most of them will be dreck, (just like most personally published novels aren’t worth the time to read) many will be better than a lot of the drivel that currently comes out of Hollywood.

Even better, no longer will over indulged actors and directors have the where withal to use their incomes to convince themselves that somehow they are better than the rest of us.

MarkTheGreat on October 1, 2009 at 11:55 AM

“Hollywood has the best moral compass, because it has compassion,” Weinstein said.

That’s like saying the terrorist is compassionate because he sharpens he sword before taking the head off.
I am sure Polanski had “compassion” for his victim, and is sorry he was caught…

right2bright on October 1, 2009 at 11:56 AM

Kirstie Alley (for what it’s worth) is with Susan. She is livid.

SouthernGent on October 1, 2009 at 11:56 AM

I’ve seen ‘Frantic’ and that movie negates any claim of “genius.”

Oh, and he’s a child rapist who has avoided justice for more than 30 years.

See you later Roman: in prison.

Branch Rickey on October 1, 2009 at 11:57 AM

“Hollywood has the best moral compass, because it has compassion,” Weinstein said.

That explains a lot. When you set your own bar it is easy to exceed that standard.

One thing I have learned as a Christian is that the bar is set very high, and I constantly fail to get to it, but I know that the one that set the bar is always there to pick me back up and help me along.

Octavia on October 1, 2009 at 11:58 AM

shoot him in the head.

ThackerAgency on October 1, 2009 at 11:59 AM

The only morons who think he should go scot-free are his Hollywood buddies, and I don’t see how deeming them “liberal” is relevant to the discussion at all.
crr6 on October 1, 2009 at 11:46 AM

1) Those “hollywood buddies” are universally liberal.
2) All of those outside of hollywood who support Polanski are also universally liberal.

The fact that people on both the left and the right feel he should go to jail is negated by the fact that of those who support him, 100% are liberal.

MarkTheGreat on October 1, 2009 at 11:59 AM

One would hope, but I am not holding my breath, that the public at large would come to the realization the Celebrities/Hollywood’s “moral compass” is so broken that they are literally “misguided” in navigating the American policy “map”, from healthcare to missle defense. That the next time one these “lost souls” tries to give diections of any kind, they would “JUST STFU ALREADY!”

Archimedes on October 1, 2009 at 11:59 AM

Susan Estrich, not exactly a conservative stalwart, blasts Polanski

Glad to see Carol Channing’s voice is on the right side of this issue.

YYZ on October 1, 2009 at 12:00 PM

If Hollywood is the very definition of a moral compass than I’d rather be compared to Nazis, thank you very much.

mjk on October 1, 2009 at 11:55 AM

There are more then a couple of posters here who thinks that Polanski should not be convicted….
ThackerAgency, and AnninCA are two that come to mind…they both think it is no big deal. It happened 32 years ago (Annin), and Thacker just thinks it is no big deal to rape a 13 year old because of her shopping habits…and I am not making that up.

right2bright on October 1, 2009 at 12:00 PM

Once again the elite show they are from another planet.

Daddy-O on October 1, 2009 at 12:00 PM

Hollywood has compassion for criminals and it has had that forever.

Jack Henry Abbott comes to mind.

It’d be nice if they’d have some compassion for the victims.

drjohn on October 1, 2009 at 12:00 PM

crr6 on October 1, 2009 at 11:46 AM

You guys are the Kings and Queens of generalizations and guilt by association. I remember when having even mentioned Bob Jones University who be the death sentence to any Conservative political candidate.

Face it, Hollywood and the entertainment industry is almost completely liberally based. They own this. So do liberals.

hawkdriver on October 1, 2009 at 12:00 PM

Hollywood Klan members stick together. I think they take an oath during some kind of secret ceremony to always support fellow Klan members no matter what.

MB4 on October 1, 2009 at 12:01 PM

Michael Moore and Bill maher have both spoken outagainst Polanski – they feel he should serve his time.

AprilOrit on October 1, 2009 at 12:01 PM

This is an interesting phenomenon. I suppose it could be explained by the surrealistic bubble in which these people spend their lives. Their talent has provided them with a life where they rarely hear “no”, they employ servants to attend to the whims, and in which a fawning public regard them as gods made human. Perhaps they interalize this after a time and come to truely believe that fame/talent entitles them to quite another set of laws and taboos.
I’m somewhat heartened, by the way, that so many of our usually misguided liberal brethern have found moral clarity on this one.

mugged on October 1, 2009 at 12:02 PM

How is it dishonest? All of those Hollywood buddies are liberal.

JAM on October 1, 2009 at 11:54 AM

What if they all had mustaches? Should we blame people with mustaches?

Sure alot of them might be liberal, but their political ideology is not related to their support for Polanski. They support him simply because he’s a colleague and they respect his work.

If liberalism were a cause for the support, explain the condemnation from liberals outside Hollywood. Explain the NYT editorial board. Explain me, for gods sake. Polanski is a scumbag supported by his scumbag friends in the movie business. Period.

crr6 on October 1, 2009 at 12:02 PM

We lament the news media’s liberal bent and subsequent indoctrination. Until we share responsibility in perpetuating the liberal entertainment industry’s stranglehold on society, its (often subtle) corrosive effects will continue.

Diane on October 1, 2009 at 12:03 PM

As Hollywood’s moral compass once said:

You can’t do the time, don’t do the crime.

However, they have a new direction finder, and will put it to use with next Season’s debut of~ CSI Polanski!

A team of intrepid globe-hopping prosecutors track cold pedophile cases to the ends of the Earth.

If there’s a buck, Hollywood’s true compass will point to it.

profitsbeard on October 1, 2009 at 12:03 PM

This is the radical left Hollywood morons in all its their glory. Drink it up.

Nat Hound on October 1, 2009 at 11:54 AM

FIFY.

crr6 on October 1, 2009 at 12:03 PM

Hollywood, or the Postmodern(secular Humanistic) worldview, if you follow it logically, that there is absolutely nothing wrong with doing whatever it is you want to do. Pedophillia? Whose to Judge???

What they are saying, should be expected given the Humanistic Worldview these fools have.

They have no fixed, higher authority to appeal to….thus they have to arbitrarily ‘make it up’.

jp on October 1, 2009 at 12:03 PM

Glad to see Carol Channing’s voice is on the right side of this issue.

YYZ on October 1, 2009 at 12:00 PM

Estrich is an avid feminist…this speaks to that, she is very consistent on taking the feminist view….except when it came to Bill Clinton, she allowed the rape of Juanita.

right2bright on October 1, 2009 at 12:04 PM

Blaming this on the “left” is unbelievably dishonest, but at least it appears you’re going to stop doing it.

crr6 on October 1, 2009 at 11:46 AM

Oh, really? Why don’t you ask the handful of conservatives in Hollywood what they think? I bet you’d get a dramatically different answer.

This has everything to do with liberal insanity.

Daggett on October 1, 2009 at 12:04 PM

If anyone has a handy list of supporters (directors and actors) who are lining up to lining up to defend this POS, I wish you’d offer up a link for the good of the order.

I’d really like to begin to know the positions of some of these outspoken a**hats who benefit from our entertainment dollars. Why do we endure them? It’s time to turn the tables on those who think their celebrity infuses them with extraordinary wisdom.

BuckeyeSam on October 1, 2009 at 12:05 PM

Courageously, Susan Estrich has talked about her own rape and what she went through. Didn’t hide or cower.

Whether one agrees with her or not, she’s a brave person.

SteveMG on October 1, 2009 at 12:05 PM

This is the radical left Hollywood morons in all its their glory. Drink it up.

Nat Hound on October 1, 2009 at 11:54 AM
FIFY.

crr6 on October 1, 2009 at 12:03 PM

Oh come on! Embrace it. You libs love it when they’re raising money for your Marxist candidates and savaging Sarah Palin.

hawkdriver on October 1, 2009 at 12:05 PM

Once again the elite show they are from another planet.

Daddy-O on October 1, 2009 at 12:00 PM

And Barney Frank when asking what planet his constituent was on, was himself speaking from Gamma Epsilon 5.

Archimedes on October 1, 2009 at 12:06 PM

About Mr Weinstein:

In April 2008, Weinstein, who supported Hillary Clinton’s campaign for President, allegedly threatened to withhold some of his extensive personal contributions to congressional Democrats unless House Speaker Nancy Pelosi embraced his plan to finance re-votes in Florida and Michigan. Three officials familiar with the conversation say that Weinstein appeared determined to buy Clinton more time in her battle against Senator Barack Obama by pushing for the re-vote. He tried to convince Pelosi to back off her previous comments that superdelegates should support the candidate who’s leading in pledged delegates in early June.

The latest movie financed by Mr Weinstein was Inglorious Basterds (2009), which John Rosenthal disassembled and parsed for your convenience.

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/inglourious-basterds-a-german-fantasy-not-a-jewish-one/

Short version: Harvey Weinstein is not Roman Polanski’s supporter despite his character but because of it.

Niko on October 1, 2009 at 12:06 PM

Michael Moore and Bill maher have both spoken outagainst Polanski – they feel he should serve his time.

AprilOrit on October 1, 2009 at 12:01 PM

And your point is?

Knucklehead on October 1, 2009 at 12:06 PM

you should embed this video, from 1983 from Francis Schaeffer, explaining why it is these things are being rationalized and why someone would say “Hollywood has the correct values”

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7029215583363864686&hl=en#

prophetic

jp on October 1, 2009 at 12:06 PM

Polanski is a scumbag supported by his scumbag friends in the movie business. Period.

crr6 on October 1, 2009 at 12:02 PM

Which are all liberal…priod.

SHARPTOOTH on October 1, 2009 at 12:06 PM

So what if the best movie the sexual deviant ever made was Gigli?

What then?

scalleywag on October 1, 2009 at 12:06 PM

period

SHARPTOOTH on October 1, 2009 at 12:07 PM

Oh, really? Why don’t you ask the handful of conservatives in Hollywood what they think? I bet you’d get a dramatically different answer.

Daggett on October 1, 2009 at 12:04 PM

If you can find one that is an admirer of Polanski’s work, and worked closely with him, sure ask them.

crr6 on October 1, 2009 at 12:08 PM

This “moral compass crowd” is probably going to inspire many Americans to stay home and avoid the drivel coming out of Hollywood. It will be interesting to see how “recession proof” the box office has been 1 year from now.

The video of average Americans mocking “overpaid celebrities” is the first dump of TEA in the sewer-filled harbor of Hollywood. This is not a “left-right” split — this is an “elite – regular man” split. Sensible entertainers who wish to have a career after 2010/2012 should probably shut-up and sing (or act, or whatever).

Mutnodjmet on October 1, 2009 at 12:08 PM

If liberalism were a cause for the support, explain the condemnation from liberals outside Hollywood. Explain the NYT editorial board. Explain me, for gods sake. Polanski is a scumbag supported by his scumbag friends in the movie business. Period.

crr6 on October 1, 2009 at 12:02 PM

It is simple, it just is political suicide to defend him, at least publicaly.
But find me conservatives that match this:
Barney Frank, ran a gay bordello from his apartment, and he is honored.
Bill Clinton raped women and two people resigned from his cabinet, both republicans
Jackson is honored as a “reverend” but fathered childrend outside of his marriage.
Kerry allowed another man to take the fall for his illicit child, yet he is honored
Kennedy abused women, let one die, and he was honored
need I go on…Mayor Barry, hooker and drugs
Bryd, head of the KKK
So now you find me some equivalent conservative so honored.
Craig…ousted, Foley…ousted.
Conservatives purge…liberals promote…

right2bright on October 1, 2009 at 12:09 PM

No prominent liberal politician or political commentator has said he should go free.

crr6 on October 1, 2009 at 11:46 AM

Are you forgetting Applebaum or saying that she isn’t prominent?

Personally, I don’t think she’s prominent, but then again I don’t think I heard of her before she tripled down on dumb on this issue.

Religious_Zealot on October 1, 2009 at 12:09 PM

What if they all had mustaches? Should we blame people with mustaches?

Sure alot of them might be liberal, but their political ideology is not related to their support for Polanski. They support him simply because he’s a colleague and they respect his work.

If liberalism were a cause for the support, explain the condemnation from liberals outside Hollywood. Explain the NYT editorial board. Explain me, for gods sake. Polanski is a scumbag supported by his scumbag friends in the movie business. Period.

crr6 on October 1, 2009 at 12:02 PM

Au contraire. This is just a nasty example of the “rules for thee, but not for me” that corses through liberalism. However, it’s such a particularly abhorrent ocurrence that even the NYT has to stand down.

NYT is being politically correct to protect its already tenuous market share; it is being anything but philosophically consistent.

Nat Hound on October 1, 2009 at 12:09 PM

Sure alot of them might be liberal, but their political ideology is not related to their support for Polanski. They support him simply because he’s a colleague and they respect his work.

If liberalism were a cause for the support, explain the condemnation from liberals outside Hollywood. Explain the NYT editorial board. Explain me, for gods sake. Polanski is a scumbag supported by his scumbag friends in the movie business. Period.

crr6 on October 1, 2009 at 12:02 PM

Wrong. Hollywood is about business, i.e. opportunism over ideology. Romanski makes them money, hence they support him.

The NYT can afford to condemn Polanski because they are not in on the deal.

Niko on October 1, 2009 at 12:10 PM

I don’t go to movies anymore. Seems like I’m not missing anything.

rbj on October 1, 2009 at 12:10 PM

Whether one agrees with her or not, she’s a brave person.

SteveMG on October 1, 2009 at 12:05 PM

Except when confronting Bill Clinton…she gave him a pass on his rape of women.

right2bright on October 1, 2009 at 12:11 PM

If we want to support the rule of law rather than vendettas, then we need to pursue Polanski and everyone else who runs out on sentencing after a conviction.

If not, they should let us know. I will adapt accordingly.

As for Harvey Weinstein’s comment, it explains a lot, well beyond this case.

exception on October 1, 2009 at 12:11 PM

Personally, I don’t think she’s prominent, but then again I don’t think I heard of her before she tripled down on dumb on this issue.

Religious_Zealot on October 1, 2009 at 12:09 PM

Is she the woman Ed posted about? She’s hardly prominent, and Ed himself wrote that she has a conflict of interest because her husband is trying to free Polanski.

It is simple, it just is political suicide to defend him, at least publicaly.

Yeah, that explains why I won’t defend him. It would be political suicide for me as an anonymous blog poster.

Needless to say you could use your same reasoning and apply it to conservatives.

crr6 on October 1, 2009 at 12:11 PM

“Hollywood has the best moral compass, because it has compassion,” Weinstein said.

Funny how that compassion only extends to those who think,talk and act within the accepted “Hollywood norm”

oldernwiser on October 1, 2009 at 12:12 PM

Since liberals make up about a third of the country, it’s good to know that there are some who will not go so far as to support releasing a man who drugged, then had sex with a 13 year old.

Loxodonta on October 1, 2009 at 12:12 PM

Wrong. Hollywood is about business, i.e. opportunism over ideology. Romanski makes them money, hence they support him.

The NYT can afford to condemn Polanski because they are not in on the deal.

Niko on October 1, 2009 at 12:10 PM

Swell. The under your theory it’s about money, and not a liberal ideology. So we’re in a sort of agreement.

crr6 on October 1, 2009 at 12:12 PM

The moral compass of the left is encased in a circular magnet.

Spiritk9 on October 1, 2009 at 12:13 PM

Not all liberals support Polanski, but all Polanski supporters are liberals.

Its like that cactus/succulent thing.

UcantCme on October 1, 2009 at 12:13 PM

Blaming this on the “left” is unbelievably dishonest, but at least it appears you’re going to stop doing it.

crr6 on October 1, 2009 at 11:46 AM

What we are blaming the left for, is the defense of Polanski. Which they are clearly and reprehensively doing.

Damn! Fell for it again, I actually dignified crr6′s comment with a response. I gotta stop taking the bait.

Ed, Allah, spirited intellctual banter and mental fencing is a joy to engage in, there is no joy to be found from crr6′s blatherings. Hint, hint.

Archimedes on October 1, 2009 at 12:13 PM

What if they all had mustaches?

crr6 on October 1, 2009 at 12:02 PM

That would be weird. And there were those without mustaches, but none signed?

exception on October 1, 2009 at 12:14 PM

A regular compass isn’t of much use around an iron deposit, so I doubt that a moral compass is of much use around a perv deposit.

Sasnak on October 1, 2009 at 12:15 PM

Suffice it to note that Holloweird forgives “Rapin’ Roman’ for his , er, sexual pecadilloes, but shuns “Mad Mel” Gibson for his drunken epithets.

max1 on October 1, 2009 at 12:15 PM

Van Jones signed the petition early but is now denying
he knew what the meaning of the petition was.

Dire Straits on October 1, 2009 at 12:15 PM

ThackerAgency on October 1, 2009 at 11:59 AM

Or you could buy him a six pack of Mike’s hard lemonade and a gallon jar of vasoline and leave your teenage daughter with him for the weekend. Get over yourself.

austinnelly on October 1, 2009 at 12:15 PM

crr6 just stop. You’re being a hypocrite. You libs own the liberal media and hollywood. They practically fell all over themselves trying to deify obama and savage Palin. You loved them then, own them now. Hollywood is liberal. They support Polanski. Liberals support child rape for other elitist liberals.

hawkdriver on October 1, 2009 at 12:17 PM

So we’re in a sort of agreement.

crr6 on October 1, 2009 at 12:12 PM

Indeed. We should never attribute to malice that which is simply greed.

Which is kind of ironic because even the Left agrees that for money, many people will do almost anything.

Niko on October 1, 2009 at 12:17 PM

Just one more reason to boycott Hollywood, and all the drivel that comes out of it.

capejasmine on October 1, 2009 at 12:17 PM

My favorite quote of all from Kurtz’ apologia is definitely this specious little nugget”

…The rape of a 13-year old was hardly the worst offense committed at Jack Nicholson’s pad.

Howie, could you flesh out that comment a bit for the benefit of the authorities? “Enquiring” minds would like to know the whole gamut of offenses, particularly since forcible rape and forced anal intercourse with a 13 year old, to you, is no big deal.

Moral compass, my fat patootie.

marybel on October 1, 2009 at 12:17 PM

Thacker just thinks it is no big deal to rape a 13 year old because of her shopping habits…and I am not making that up.

right2bright on October 1, 2009 at 12:00 PM

Thacker has never been big on any rule that gets in the way of him having fun.

MarkTheGreat on October 1, 2009 at 12:19 PM

Hollywood is about business, i.e. opportunism over ideology.

Niko on October 1, 2009 at 12:10 PM

Yes. There have never been and are not now any television shows or movies out of Hollywood that are steeped with left-wing ideology.

It’s all about opportunism. Sort of like the opportunism involved in drugging a 13 year old to have sex with her.

Loxodonta on October 1, 2009 at 12:19 PM

Interesting that T-Mobile hasn’t scrubbed their Homepage celebrity endorsement from Whoopi “Rape-Rape” Goldberg from their website yet.

RushBaby on October 1, 2009 at 12:20 PM

Hollywood says:

WTF, don’t you silly ordinary everyday people KNOW who we are? CLEARLY, we, the vapid, mindless, superficial, narcissistic, surgically altered, drug laden, psychotic, uneducated parasites of the entertainment industry KNOW what is best for the American people.

My collie says:

You lie!

CyberCipher on October 1, 2009 at 12:20 PM

Moral compass, lets take a look at this moral compass.
When actors and actresses act scenes in films they are for the most part “pretending”. But this isn’t in everything they do. When they pretend to eat a sandwich, are they really pretending? No. They actually chew and swallow.

Most rated R films nowadays contains explicit sexual content. Are the actors/actresses really pretending to fondle, caress and kiss? No they actually are doing it. And they know that it actually arouses them or causes them discomfort. That’s because sexual content is meant to be intimate. But these producers, directors, actors and actresses try to fool us and themselves.

They ain’t fooling anybody. Not even themselves.

Yeah, right, moral compass.

shick on October 1, 2009 at 12:20 PM

So, we’re just waiting for the remake of La Femme Nikita, staring Jewel? And Kirstie Alley as the Cleaner.

exception on October 1, 2009 at 12:21 PM

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