Hollywood’s statute of limitations
posted at 2:56 pm on September 30, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
In order to completely understand the perverse nature of Hollywood’s almost-total support for director Roman Polanski in his effort to fight extradition and avoid the consequences of his conviction for statutory rape 32 years ago, recall their attitude towards another seminal director ten years ago. When the Academy of Motion Pictures Arts and Sciences (AMPAS) announced that they would give a lifetime achievement Oscar to Elia Kazan, many in Hollywood erupted in anger and protest. After all, Kazan had committed the unpardonable sin of naming names of Communists in Hollywood to the House Un-American Activities Committee.
The Los Angeles Times reported at the time from the awards ceremony about the protests:
Hollywood still isn’t sure whether it’s ready to forgive Elia Kazan. In an appearance that was considerably less dramatic than the controversy leading up to Sunday’s Academy Awards, the 89-year film titan received a mixed reaction as he took the stage to receive his honorary Oscar at the 71st annual Academy Awards ceremony.
Demonstrators had noisily protested the acclaimed director’s lifetime achievement award outside the Dorothy Chandler Pavilion earlier in the day, urging Oscar-goers to sit on their hands during Kazan’s appearance. According to eyewitnesses at the ceremony, many in the audience stood and applauded, but an almost equal number stayed seated and did not applaud. …
Television cameras caught Warren Beatty, Helen Hunt and Meryl Streep standing and applauding. Steven Spielberg remained seated, although he applauded; actors Nick Nolte, Ed Harris and Amy Madigan made a point of staying in their seats and not applauding. …
About 500 protesters gathered outside the Dorothy Chandler Pavilion Sunday afternoon, armed with placards adorned with such slogans as “Elia Kazan: Nominated for the Benedict Arnold Award,” “Don’t Whitewash the Blacklist” and “Kazan–the Linda Tripp of the ’50s.”
The clip of the award can be seen here, complete with the notorious glares coming from actors Ed Harris and Amy Madigan, both of whom were toddlers when Kazan testified to HUAC. Forty-seven years after Kazan’s decision, hundreds of his colleagues still shunned him for his actions at HUAC. And for what? Having made an arguably misguided decision* to blow the whistle on Communist activities that Kazan believed to be a threat to the adopted nation that he loved.
I have no idea on whether Harris or Madigan have specifically expressed support or criticism for Polanski, but their colleagues have almost in unison erupted in demands for forgiveness for the fugitive, arguing that 32 years is too long to hold a grudge and that an old man should be allowed to live his remaining years in peace, honored as an artist. And what are we to forgive? The rape and sodomy of a 13-year-old girl, whom Polanski drugged first.
Acting to protect the country from a perceived threat: lifetime shunning.
Drugging, raping, and sodomizing a 13-year-old girl: Forgiveness and hero worship.
That’s one seriously perverted sense of values.
Addendum: I know that some will object to “arguably misguided” from both directions, but I think Kazan chose poorly and that the HUAC effort was a Constitutional affront. The First Amendment guarantees the right of political speech and thought, and membership in the Communist Party then and now should not have been an issue on which anyone needed to testify under oath to Congress. I understand that the Cold War was in its most fraught stage and that times were different, but the Constitution applies at all times, or it doesn’t apply at all.
I’d also like to point out that most of the Left and Right agree on Polanski, which I find very encouraging. You won’t find too many issues on which Kathy Kattenburg, my friend Michael Stickings, and me see eye to eye. With the exception of the celebrity wing at the HuffPo, we have a broad consensus that Polanski needs to face justice.
Update: The Village Voice has a satire that is not to be missed:
Use your sense memory, people. It was a different time — the heady days of 1970s Hollywood — and, as the great Stanislavski said in his seminal work, “Building a Character,” there is truth-truth and then there is artistic-truth. Rape is life!
Maybe you don’t know that Roman Polanski is a Holocaust survivor. And that his wife, Sharon Tate, was murdered by the Manson family. If you knew that, you would probably feel bad for him, and forgive him for raping a child. Why DO bad things happen to good people? It’s weird.
Maybe you don’t know that Roman Polanski is not just a filmmaker, but a really really good filmmaker. And certainly you don’t know that he was on his way to a film festival when apprehended. And you must not know that film festivals are historically sacred ground, havens of pure cinema where people buy and sell everything but their souls remain intact.
Maybe you aren’t aware — and really, thanks to author Robert Harris for pointing this out in today’s New York Times –that “Mr. Polanski’s own young children, to whom he is a doting father, want him home. ” If you had known that, surely you would have forgiven him by now. If he’s not around to raise his kids, who would prevent them from getting raped by good people?
Ouch. What would Anne Applebaum think? (h/t HA reader Tommy)










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There is no justice for the exiled pervert. There is remorse here that he has sat outside the law for 32 years with collusion from the French. There will be punishment and retribution. That is what society is supposed to do. Some bozo on this thread said that punishing the pervert wouldn’t make any difference in any of our lives. I disagree.
The difference is the exercise of the law of the land. That’s the support of the Constitution. For my part, executing the sick scumbag, in the public square, where I could watch as a witness, would actually make me feel better. But, more importantly, delivering one of the evil into God’s hands makes absolutely sure that ONE PARTICULAR BOTTOM-OF-THE-GENE-POOL MAGGOT WILL NEVER COMMIT THAT CRIME AGAIN!
Blacksmith8 on September 30, 2009 at 4:28 PM
LOL, the UN also ignored their own sanctions against Iraq.
FYI, Bush, Cheney, Rice, and others were in fact formally “charged” with “war crimes” at The Hague in 2004. Ramsey Clark was behing it, if I am not mistaken.
Curiously, one of the other names on his war crimes filings was one Colin Powell. Of course, his name has probably been quietly dropped after his Conversion to the Church of O’bama in 2008.
Del Dolemonte on September 30, 2009 at 4:28 PM
F You – Right back at ya.
You don’t get to decide, he was CONVICTED in the state of California he FLED. I hope they charge him for that too.
Nicole Brown Simpson was abused when she was alive- still married to OJ. Rhianna recently abused by Chris Brown…she didn’t want to press charges. California to Rhianna, it makes no difference whether or not she wanted to press charges. Same thing goes for The now grown woman who Polanksi raped when she was 13 years old. This isn’t brain surgery.
Dr Evil on September 30, 2009 at 4:30 PM
343 relates to Halo, correct?
right2bright on September 30, 2009 at 4:30 PM
+1000
They, and those insufferable posters are defending him because it was rape.
Were it that he beat her, pound her with his bare fists til she was bruised and bleed, smacked her about the head and in doing so caused a minor hemorrhage that on the outside did not show the damage but on the inside caused her a minor developmental delay – oh they would be all over him. Lock him up – he beat a child! But rape – no they don’t care about rape.
Rape at the age of 13 does the same thing, it is a blow, just like you have been beaten with powerful well aimed deadly blows to your psyche at a fragile age. 13, the in between place, when you are establishing your own self-esteem, your identity. You struggle to move beyond the role of a dependent child, but are not ready for the intimacy of young adulthood. And here comes a grown man, one who directs, a powerful man who your mother may have pimped you out to. The adults in your life have now betrayed you, psychologically beat you and then literally sold you out. That wound leaves a deep scar- if it heals.
Here, see how they think… see how she uses the word “behavior” in place of rape. Rape is just a “behavior” it is not really a crime. However she would be all up in arms if Polanski had been hitting (torturing) the girl:
They don’t care because they see rape as sex, and sex as a weapon. It is the hollywood culture.
batterup on September 30, 2009 at 4:33 PM
A couple of famous trolls here had 343 as part of their screen names – it’s become synonymous with ‘bad trolls.’
Not sure who the first one was; might have been ‘nice343.’
Don’t know the halo reference; my gaming began and ended with Leisure Suit Larry.
massrighty on September 30, 2009 at 4:33 PM
Liberal343, one of getalife’s high school chums.
Del Dolemonte on September 30, 2009 at 4:33 PM
He didn’t pay a fine, he was sued, another finding of guilt. A thirteen year old is not capable of consent by law so it’s unlikely that she would be capable of “dropping the charges” besides, he plead guilty. He didn’t live in exile, he lived in the lap of luxury with multiple homes in multiple countries. You defense of this man is sad.
Cindy Munford on September 30, 2009 at 4:33 PM
Yeah I think nice 343 pre-dated Liberal343.
Del Dolemonte on September 30, 2009 at 4:34 PM
Depends. Are you a lefty film producer? If not there might be trouble. If so, Heck, why stop at 13? Go for broke! You might prefer 8 year olds. Or newborns. Have at it. Hollywood will forgive you, and likely honor you to boot.
Abby Adams on September 30, 2009 at 4:34 PM
In a criminal complaint, the state or federal government is the complainant.
The victim being desirous of the charges being dropped doesn’t have any weight.
massrighty on September 30, 2009 at 4:35 PM
He lived in this Home he called it the “milky way” His own galaxy I don’t think he is living in the same universe but apparently he does.
Dr Evil on September 30, 2009 at 4:37 PM
Don’t feed the
trollHOLE.***I know..I know….but it RHYMES***
seejanemom on September 30, 2009 at 4:37 PM
Ed Harris is a moronic ass. Good actor and such, but a moronic ass none-the-less. If he’s for something, chances are good that I’ll be against it and vice versa.
ynot4tony2 on September 30, 2009 at 4:38 PM
Yes Hotair, stop exposing the details of the case so it will be easier to turn Polanski into the victim.
Daemonocracy on September 30, 2009 at 4:38 PM
The two clown sitting there looking like the smelled er..ah..lol..
I haven’t seen either in a movie since the 80s I think.
Do they still get invited to those things?
Jeff from WI on September 30, 2009 at 4:38 PM
Perhaps… Was she willing to drop the charges back when he should have been sentenced?
Scrappy on September 30, 2009 at 4:38 PM
It’s so simple even the lady’s of the view could understand – he broke the law, and the law caught up to him.
Dr Evil on September 30, 2009 at 4:38 PM
Nick Nolte Nuff Said.
Dr Evil on September 30, 2009 at 4:40 PM
Yeah, I don’t game either, but I found this in the urban dictionary, which actually works.
right2bright on September 30, 2009 at 4:45 PM
Like we freaking care what the UN thinks.
lovingmyUSA on September 30, 2009 at 4:46 PM
A little musical explanation, for those who don’t get it.
massrighty on September 30, 2009 at 4:46 PM
I want Polanski returned to a California Prison, where he may experience the Love that dares not be named ;) Maybe he can make it into a movie… Title: How I found Love On The Old Hershey Highway. He loves the back door route so much LOL!
Dr Evil on September 30, 2009 at 4:51 PM
I’m sure there is a Hollyweird director currently planning a Movie about Polanski, the victim fighting for his freedom from the evil justice system who wants to destroy him. He was driven to this act by the Manson Murders, and the 13 year old girl is portrayed as a slutty golddigger.
Cast:
Sean Penn as Roman Polanski
Dakota Fanning as 13 year old Rape Victim
Janeane Garofalo as Girls Mother
Drew Barrymore as Sharon Tate
Russell Crow as Charlie Manson
Director: Martin Scorcese
Awards: Academy Award, Best picture, director, actor,actress,supporting actress, supporting actor.
Some quack is seriously considering this, they must be. It’s Hollywood.
portlandon on September 30, 2009 at 4:55 PM
“A Constitutional affront”?
Ed, are you telling me that you think Congress investigating the activities of a clandestine, possibly foreign-affiliated, organization –the stated purpose of which was the overthrow of the US Government– in perhaps the country’s most influential industry for the mere purposes of simply disclosing this information to the public was an “affront” to the Constitution? Really? An “affront”?
If that’s the case I wonder what you must have thought of Congress holding hearings on steroids in baseball, or Heaven help me, whether horse racing is too rough on the horse (No. Not kidding.)
CreatedOrSaved on September 30, 2009 at 4:56 PM
Well, according to the new posting in Headlines, it looks like Polanski was never offered the “40 day plea bargain”, the plea bargain story came from a documentary.
He fled before he was sentenced or an actual plea bargain was entered.
Looks like the judge was given a picture of Polanski partying it up the weekend before the sentencing, as if nothing was wrong and the judge got pissed off and decided to lay down the law.
right2bright on September 30, 2009 at 4:58 PM
This individual had defined him/herself. I think I’ll add this quote every time I wish to rebut this person’s posts.
Liam on September 30, 2009 at 4:58 PM
I’ve been looking up actors and other Hwd types on twitter. I expect them to speak up. Normally, I prefer they keep their mouths shut. But, since almost all have indicated they are leftards, they have already broken the no politics rule. And kiddie rape should not be about politics even though to a large segment of the left it is.
Blake on September 30, 2009 at 5:00 PM
That’s
one seriously perverted sense ofan example of LIBERAL values.oldleprechaun on September 30, 2009 at 5:01 PM
Ed:
Even you seem to have forgotten that when Kazan went before the committee Joseph Stalin still ruled the USSR. Communists in Hollywood supported a regime that murdered five times as many human beings as the Nazis and arguably without Stalin’s aid and comfort during the period of the Alliance there would have been no Holocaust. Kazan was a hero and I suspect there is a strong correlation between those who shunned Kazan and those who support Polanski.
jerryofva on September 30, 2009 at 5:05 PM
Sounds like you missed out on some genuine fun because you picked the wrong game to start with.
Then again, I started with Space Invaders.
ynot4tony2 on September 30, 2009 at 5:06 PM
I know that some will object to “arguably misguided” from both directions, but I think
Kazanbin Ladin and Zawahiri and large numbers of radical Islamists chose poorly and that theHUAC effortPatriot Act of 2001 was a Constitutional affront. The First Amendment guarantees the right of political speech and thought, and membership in theCommunist PartyMuslim religion then and now should not have been an issue on which anyone needed totestify under oath to Congressbe considered for their terrorist potential prior to boarding a domestic air flight. I understand that theCold WarLong War was in its mostfraughtdangerous times and was under considerable threat of attacks from Weapons of Mass Destruction as at few times before or after on American soil stage and thattimespolitical correctness and integrity were different, but the Constitution applies at all times, or it doesn’t apply at all.Really? And what privileges did those exposed lose by being labeled Communists? What jobs did they lose by being labeled Communists? Which of those stalwart Communist sympathizers went on to recover from these slights, become studio executives, and persecute Republican and conservative actors today by blackballing them from work for the last 15 years?????
Really, Ed. How far are you going to bend over backwards before you fall in the bloody pool with the rest of the Lefty intelligentsia? I admire your evenhandedness even as I marvel at what you ignore as the stealth censoring of conservative thought in Hollywood, and the willful ignorance of the stated aims of the US Communist Party in the 1950s. Gulags and Kulaks were made in such manner.
Subsunk
Subsunk on September 30, 2009 at 5:19 PM
Okay, I’ll admit it – I’m old enough to have played ‘Pong’ on a 14″ TV screen.
And, yes, I did play Nintendo (the old-school kind) with my kids.
massrighty on September 30, 2009 at 5:19 PM
Thank God I had my keyboard covered!!! I just told my grandson yesterday, about how I used to play “Pong”! And I would stay up to play Nintendo after his mother (my daughter) went to bed….
lovingmyUSA on September 30, 2009 at 5:29 PM
When the Kazan thing happened I tought of the Polanski thing. They ignored the murder of Theo Van Gogh too.
RobCon on September 30, 2009 at 6:14 PM
My recommendation to you, Scopper, is that you actually read the victim’s testimony, first here, page by page, and continued here, given at the time, and which testimony was the basis for his plea agreement and conviction.
He admitted to the crime, was willing to agree to a very favorable “deal,” and then fled justice when he realized he was headed for jail.
The victim was indeed only 13 years old at the time.
Polanski did indeed trick her into undressing, and lured her into a bedroom where the rape took place.
He did drug her, and, he gave her champagne in combination with that drug (a quaalude).
And after drugging her, he indeed raped her. She described it in detail.
And, he did indeed sodomize her as well, which she also described in detail.
And following a brief interruption from a woman in the house (who knocked on the door and with whom he had a brief conversation through a crack in the door) Polanski returned to his victim and raped her and sodomized her again.
Now, please explain how those facts should somehow ALL be set aside, for consideration of what YOU say the “important issue being addressed” might be?
Trochilus on September 30, 2009 at 6:15 PM
Hey Roman,
Me and some of my greasy ex-felon degenerate biker buds was wonderin’ if you’d be cool with us “doin’” your daughter Morgane? She’s a little older now, but still looks pretty hot, and like you said “everybody wants to f**k young chicks”. We all agreed we sure wish we could’ve gotten into her pants when she was 13. But hey, we’ll git her up here to Sturgis and git her likkered-up and high on some really good dope so she don’t get too uptight and freak out on us while we pass her around, know what I mean? I’m really glad you and your Hollywood friends are so totally cool with that, so send us her contact info. Maybe some nekkid pics too, OK?
Thanks dude.
bannedbyhuffpo on September 30, 2009 at 6:25 PM
Objectivism Reference Center:
From her ’47 HUAC testimony:
Noel on September 30, 2009 at 6:46 PM
Oh gosh, I guess I’m not either far-left or far-right. I obviously know the act itself was rape. It didn’t matter about her age. He acted against her will. She could have been 50, and it still was rape.
My stance is that he struck a plea deal. It wasn’t honored. That doeesn’t give him any pass about fleeing. It does mean this entire debacle is really over the sentencing, and there a ton of questions about how to go back in time to be fair.
We certainly have no right to retry the case.
He has no right to suggest he be given a pass.
It’s truly a legal question, to me.
AnninCA on September 30, 2009 at 6:47 PM
I can’t wait till Polanski’s cellmate is doing the pokey dance in his no-no hole. That’s love, too, liberals, and he’s just being shy. Maybe he”l go to a nice prison with quaaludes, chilled champagne, smooth jazz and a fruit basket upon arrival.
alliebobbitt on September 30, 2009 at 6:54 PM
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Lucky you because for Rape Victims it’s more than a legal question.
Dr Evil on September 30, 2009 at 6:54 PM
Cite your source and back up this contention. My gut tells me you are regurgitating talking points
CWforFreedom on September 30, 2009 at 7:10 PM
From Ronald Reagan’s 1947 HUAC testimony:
Noel on September 30, 2009 at 7:15 PM
You didn’t create a role for Whoopi “Rape-Rape” Goldberg, ya racist.
RushBaby on September 30, 2009 at 7:19 PM
She will play herself – child rape enabler.
Dr Evil on September 30, 2009 at 7:28 PM
Who are all those French filmmakers? At least, Jacque Cousteau wasn’t on the list. Or is he dead?
Dhuka on September 30, 2009 at 7:31 PM
Does anyone know how The View’s/ABC’s email went today? I am amazed that we aren’t hearing about blow back about the round table of appeasers.
Cindy Munford on September 30, 2009 at 7:32 PM
Oooops wrong thread.
Dhuka on September 30, 2009 at 7:33 PM
And lastly, from Kazan’s ’52 HUAC testimony and FULL PAGE Times ad:
From the ad:
Polanski’s not even in the same league.
Noel on September 30, 2009 at 7:36 PM
Of course the law will have its payment in prison time in this case. But our anger level at this dis-honoring of a 13 year old female by forced sexual intercourse 32 years ago reveals a lot about how harsh we need the punishments to be. Remember that there are no laws against what people don’t want to do anyway, and when we demand harsh punishment for this act to stop the violators, we are also revealing that all men are capable of doing it, just like Polanski said. That IS the reason Hollywood so values his pictures which delve into our subconscious minds to attract customers, and it is also why Polanski is in Major trouble and he knows it. A withdrawn plea and a trial is his only option, but I suspect that he will not ever come back to face that risky a chance.
jimw on September 30, 2009 at 7:36 PM
Check it out plenty of people are not defending Polanski. He isn’t as popular as he thought he was. Kirsti Alley, Rape Rape is Rape.
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/30/the-backlash-begins-french-government-easing-off-defense-of-polanski/
Dr Evil on September 30, 2009 at 7:38 PM
I know she could be an assistant defender or maybe a msm anchor who explains to the jury/audience that it wasn’t
“rape-rape.”
Renae on September 30, 2009 at 7:41 PM
You are so arrogant. You know nothing about my personal experiences.
nothing.
You are one arrogant creep.
I’m so annoyed by your post, that I’m not even going to defend myself
Creep.
AnninCA on September 30, 2009 at 8:06 PM
Here’s the story. It’s not a trial, people. The trial is over.
It’s over sentencing.
Now, either you really accept this or you don’t.
If you don’t, you’re not into following legal protocol.
If you’re not, then don’t complain when the left really wants to re-examine the evidence.
It works both ways, people.
AnninCA on September 30, 2009 at 8:10 PM
This man needs to be put in a hole for a long time.
Here is a video of what Al Pacino thinks should be done to this man.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z48Y0sQzxxs&feature=PlayList&p=C18C882E65742353&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=12
jaboba on September 30, 2009 at 8:10 PM
I see ThackerAgency, who is “on record” as claiming he is not “defending” Polanski…
…has yet again got on ANOTHER Polanski thread and is defending him.
I’d still like to know how one gets from “fleeing the country” to “exile.”
Of course, “fleeing the country” puts the onus of responsibility on the person fleeing.
“Exile”, though, puts the onus of responsibility on the country.
So TA continues to not only DEFEND Polanski, but is trying to REMOVE responsibility from Polanski of his actions.
Religious_Zealot on September 30, 2009 at 8:17 PM
Actually there are two issues going on here.
One is about Polanski himself. And it should be noted that this issue is not only about sentencing, but also about fleeing the country.
The second issue, though, is more interesting to me. And that is the SUPPORT that Polanski is receiving from the Hollywood and media (self-deluded) “elite.”
It really makes a stark contrast between parts of this country. Most of us are simply aghast that there is any conversation AT ALL in regards to the pedophile rapist.
In a civil, moral and just society there IS no discussion other than does he deserve jail time or death.
I believe that this country NEEDS to be reminded every now and then that there is a very vocal contingent of people who consider themselves our “betters” who are lacking in the most basic traits of humanity.
As far as Polanski is concerned, he needs to be dragged back here by his balls then sent to prison to rot there until he dies.
And as far as his supporters and apologists are concerned, we need to name them, shame them and never, ever give them the opportunity to have any input into our nations and our world’s moral and ethical discussions. And none of the Hollywood dirt who support the child rapist should ever make another dime from movies.
Religious_Zealot on September 30, 2009 at 8:25 PM
“Its a Sicilian message. Jacques Cousteau sleeps with the fishes.”
/s/ Tessio
Khun Joe on September 30, 2009 at 8:25 PM
I haven’t really been following your posts, so I’m confused about this because it certainly sounds like a threat.
If the left want to re-examine the evidence then let them.
If they want to re-try him, I say let them.
He was beyond “lucky” to get a plea deal where the most heinous actions were completely dropped.
The man drugged, raped and sodomized a 13 year old girl.
He deserved a very, very, very long jail sentence.
Religious_Zealot on September 30, 2009 at 8:29 PM
AND in addition to THIS story, this PEDOPHILE PIG was 45 YEARS OLD while he was RAPING his FIFTEEN year old “girlfriend” Nastassja Kinski.
What a dispicable sack of excrement.
Put this filthy slimebag behind bars and throw away the key.
bannedbyhuffpo on September 30, 2009 at 8:41 PM
Shhhhhhhhh….
AnninCa is still trying to believe that Polanski stayed away from the little girls after he fled to France.
Religious_Zealot on September 30, 2009 at 8:52 PM
STFU. As usual, you don’t have a clue about you are yapping about. And you are too narcissistic to read what other people post. There never was a trial. Even if his attys successfully argue misconduct, and I don’t think they can, the only remedy would be to allow him to withdraw his plea and GO TO TRIAL ON ALL THE CHARGES OR TRY TO NEGOTIATE A NEW PLEA BARGAIN.
Now why don’t you go do your child raping enabling somewhere else.
Blake on September 30, 2009 at 9:16 PM
Arguably misguided? How daft. Do the commies have to kill another 100 million before it’s not misguided to take this threat seriously?
Basilsbest on September 30, 2009 at 9:18 PM
Who knew that there were so many perverts on HotAir, starting with AnninCA?
Blake on September 30, 2009 at 9:19 PM
Kudos to the Village Voice for not only taking the right side on this issue, but writing such incredible satire!!
4shoes on September 30, 2009 at 9:20 PM
But, this has been answered, with logic.
Convicted. Sentenced. Fled. Caught.
Time to serve his sentence.
massrighty on September 30, 2009 at 9:25 PM
I’ve never created the circumstance where an underage female was naked alone with me. Or plied them with alchohol and drugs. Or raped them.
I’m not ‘capable’ – and most men I know are similarly incapable.
massrighty on September 30, 2009 at 9:30 PM
…oddly, it was Hagan, the Irishman, the consigliere, who answered the question;
“it’s an old sicilian message – Luca Brasi sleeps with the fishes.”
-from the book.
massrighty on September 30, 2009 at 9:33 PM
Wow!
NOW might be silent on this issue, but NAMBLA is out in force!
Religious_Zealot on September 30, 2009 at 9:38 PM
He didn’t stick around long enough to see if it was going to be honored or not…remember? He LEFT THE COUNTRY before his sentencing. And he wasn’t EXILED either. HE. RAN. AWAY. Like a cockroach that slithers back into the darkness when a light shines on them, he ran away. He had his way with that little girl and she pressed charges and he was convicted and then he ran away. No one threw him out of the country. Geez. It’s simple stuff, there’s really nothing so complicated about what he did.
scalleywag on September 30, 2009 at 9:39 PM
If Roman was a Corporate Businessman or a Republican who escaped the US to live off his considerable money and continue to work in his chosen profession in Europe I wonder if any of these empty heads would be speaking out to support him…..
Maura O on September 30, 2009 at 9:46 PM
:06 PM
And you don’t know me but what you do know – I don’t come on a blog and defend child rapist you not so much.
I’m a creep – look in the f’ing mirror.
Dr Evil on September 30, 2009 at 10:07 PM
Since when can’t a guy enjoy a little recreational, pedophiliac sodomy without everybody making such a big deal out of it? Geez, the guy is, um, like, A-list, right? Some folks just have never grasped the whole A-people/B-people thing. Damn fascists!
semperfree on September 30, 2009 at 10:10 PM
Because you can’t – you are full of yourself, what you are doing is called projection.
Dr Evil on September 30, 2009 at 10:12 PM
Hollywood is a sewer, and these supporters of Polanski are the rats.
Herb on September 30, 2009 at 10:35 PM
Well, the way I see it is that a long-overdue enema is in progress. I predict that the 9/12 D.C. pow-wow kicked off a long series of blowback incidents. This is one of them. ACORN is another. The pervert Jennings is next.
Buy popcorn futures.
platypus on September 30, 2009 at 10:45 PM
With all these Hollywood weirdos excusing Polanski’s actions and the recent confession from Mackenzie Phillips I have to wonder what’s been going on behind closed doors in Hollywood. It may explain why so many child celebrities and children of celebrities are complete basket cases when they become adults.
AaronGuzman on September 30, 2009 at 11:03 PM
I want the list of American actors who sign this protest of punishment for Polanski. I’ve already got about 100 now including asshole singers/bands. Jerks like Tim Robbins Susan Sarandon, J Fonda, M Sheen and his half wit son, S Penn, Asshole Baldwin, J Roberts, J Depp, M Damon, J Garofalo, D Glover, W Farrell, C Chase, W Allen, B Springsteen, J Fogarty, D Mathews and his stinking band, Morgan Fox, E Harris, G Paltrow, Dixie Chicks and many more that I can’t remember until I see them on Rotten Tomatoes. Can you help me with this list? I don’t pay to see any of them perform but they have the right to free speech
inspectorudy on October 1, 2009 at 12:35 AM
No, I’m pretty sure it’s statue.
/kosmo
greggriffith on October 1, 2009 at 1:12 AM
Ed,
I’d take issue with your analysis of HUAC. While, the 1st amendment protects free speech, it is against the law to work on behalf of a foreign power without declaring that fact (to this day, lobbyists of foreign governments have to register as such). If communist filmmakers were creating propaganda at the behest of the Comintern in Moscow — which is arguably what was happening — then they would have been acting in violation of the law. If anything, HUAC was a spectacle whereby Congress used their regulatory powers to supplant our justice system with grandstanding and peer pressure… much like the recent MLB/Steroid hearings. (I guess Jose Canseco is the Elia Kazan of our time). Public condemnation aside, there was no penalty for being an avowed communist. At issue was the fact that the communists didn’t want to speak freely — hence their refusal to testify.
Heywood U. Reedmore on October 1, 2009 at 1:14 AM
MOT Mr. Subsunk!
“Let’s Roll”
On Watch on October 1, 2009 at 2:08 AM
ed is such a libertarian stud, he believes it is in the constitution that countries sworn to the defeat of our nation have the right to infiltrate any area of our society that they wish to achieve that goal. He believes he is smarter then nasty “patriotic” Americans who testify to congress honestly. ed believes the Venona intercepts were just a ruse by soviets who really love America trying to make us believe other soviets hate America who really love America. I bet ed has a poster of sean penns father hanging in his gagage.
peacenprosperity on October 1, 2009 at 5:36 AM
Thirty two years is a long time to hold a grudege. How can you prosecute a man for rape when the victim is a full grown woman? Polanski has produced masterpieces of cinema since then.
Oh, by the way, did you know that two years ago, Michael Vick killed dogs? Why is he out of jail already?
Mr. Grump on October 1, 2009 at 8:18 AM
These celebrities supporting this vile man are toxic scum. I’d like for them to get into character for me if they will indulge me: pretend you are the mother, father, daughter, or brother of this 13-year-old girl. Next imagine that girl knocked out on drugs on her belly getting raped anally by a sick groaning nasty old pedophiliac pervert for hours on end. Not moved yet? Then you and your ilk can all go to hell then.
RepubChica on October 1, 2009 at 8:34 AM
Another “seminal” director? Nice tongue-in-cheek! Polanski’s problem is that he couldn’t keep his semen to himself. Now he’s old enough that he may be willing to accept castration–and that would be a fitting end to the saga.
PD Quig on October 1, 2009 at 8:45 AM
it’s not a “grudge” dipstick . . . when an adult male has forced sex with a child he has committed a most vile, disgusting act and must be punished. The passage of time hasn’t effected the character and morals of that dirtbag.
rplat on October 1, 2009 at 9:34 AM
Ed, not to be picky, but 1952 was actually fifty-seven years ago, not forty-seven.
applebutter on October 1, 2009 at 9:51 AM
Remind me not to let you anywhere near my daughter, or my dogs for that matter.
If this was a serious comment, you are in desperate need of help. I seriously hope that you can get it.
Just because a child grows up, a crime committed against that child does not transform into a crime committed against an adult. But even if it did, rape is a vile crime. It’s vile against a child. It’s vile against an adult. And even if that weren’t so vile, he still fled to avoid the consequences of his actions.
So, let me recap. His crime was against a child. That crime was rape. And he is a coward.
applebutter on October 1, 2009 at 10:03 AM
Good old-fashioned sarcasm is wasted on you, stupid.
Mr. Grump on October 1, 2009 at 10:07 AM
- Sounds like what a pedophile might say.
This “ThackerAgency” person seems to believe it is perfectly lawful for adults to rape children.
Unbelievably sick!
Parley on October 1, 2009 at 10:09 AM
Mr. Grump on October 1, 2009 at 10:14 AM
Sometimes sarcasm doesn’t carry in text. You should know this. But since what you wrote so completely resembled what I would expect from a mouth-breather, I believed it. But just in case, I allowed that you might not be serious; see the second sentence.
In answer to your question, yes. I do. I would suggest to you that you read what you write before you press the “Submit Comment” button and ask yourself: “Is it possible that someone might misunderstand what I’m saying?”
Typing slowly only works if you’re able to read what you write.
applebutter on October 1, 2009 at 10:32 AM
Annin – Plea Deals can be made by the prosecution, but the judge is never under an obligation to accept them. He/she usually does, but not always. Polanski would have been told this by the prosecution and/or his defense lawyer. Celebrity entitlement probably played a role if he didn’t take the possibility seriously.
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Thacker – I don’t know you, but I’ve seen your comments on several Polanski threads for several days. I think you really need to take some time to examine why it is you are so fervent in your support of Polanski and trying to see this as a statutory rape case when it was a rape case first and foremost. This is obviously not just about the Polanski case to you.
Simona on October 1, 2009 at 10:33 AM
Fair enough.
Mr. Grump on October 1, 2009 at 10:41 AM
The DVD for Kazan’s brilliant A FACE IN THE CROWD has a documentary with interviews of folks involved. Kazan’s naming names is mentioned, and Budd Schulberg, the movie’s screenwriter, lays out a very personal defense of Kazan I’d never seen mentioned: Schulberg and Kazan went to a big writers’ congress thing for Communists back in the day, and befriended lots of Soviet Communist writers, were inspired by them, got their minds blown exchanging ideas and leftist ideals, heard their rousing speeches –
Then Schulberg and Kazan went home, and over the years pretty much every single one of those writers they’d befriended and admired were murdered or sent to the gulag by the regime in which Kazan and Schulberg had put their faith, and Kazan saw his stateside Communist buddies excuse each murder and incarceration as being necessary and heroic action by the Party.
Well-Armed Lamb on October 1, 2009 at 10:58 AM
Maybe, per Hollywood culture, the Polanski 13 year old rape victim was to have kept quiet and entered show business so the arts community could have collectively supported her with jobs and perks in the tradition of the casting couch? A la Nastassja Kinski, whom Polanski seduced at the age of 15. Did the 13 year old break Hollywood’s (NEA’s) unwritten code of community bailouts for sins by spilling the beans at the time the rape occurred and not in her memoirs decades later, and making Polanski pay personally with a civil suit and thereby thumbing her nose at every producer and director in town? It simply isn’t done.
I’m not sure why, but every time someone supports Polanski or downplays his Champagne and Qualude, rape and sodomy, hot tub afternoon delight, I imagine Sonya M. buried up to her waist being stoned to death.
FeFe on October 1, 2009 at 11:02 AM
AnninCA inherent in any plea deal is the risk the judge will reject the deal.
SarahW on October 1, 2009 at 11:08 AM
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