Hollywood’s statute of limitations
posted at 2:56 pm on September 30, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
In order to completely understand the perverse nature of Hollywood’s almost-total support for director Roman Polanski in his effort to fight extradition and avoid the consequences of his conviction for statutory rape 32 years ago, recall their attitude towards another seminal director ten years ago. When the Academy of Motion Pictures Arts and Sciences (AMPAS) announced that they would give a lifetime achievement Oscar to Elia Kazan, many in Hollywood erupted in anger and protest. After all, Kazan had committed the unpardonable sin of naming names of Communists in Hollywood to the House Un-American Activities Committee.
The Los Angeles Times reported at the time from the awards ceremony about the protests:
Hollywood still isn’t sure whether it’s ready to forgive Elia Kazan. In an appearance that was considerably less dramatic than the controversy leading up to Sunday’s Academy Awards, the 89-year film titan received a mixed reaction as he took the stage to receive his honorary Oscar at the 71st annual Academy Awards ceremony.
Demonstrators had noisily protested the acclaimed director’s lifetime achievement award outside the Dorothy Chandler Pavilion earlier in the day, urging Oscar-goers to sit on their hands during Kazan’s appearance. According to eyewitnesses at the ceremony, many in the audience stood and applauded, but an almost equal number stayed seated and did not applaud. …
Television cameras caught Warren Beatty, Helen Hunt and Meryl Streep standing and applauding. Steven Spielberg remained seated, although he applauded; actors Nick Nolte, Ed Harris and Amy Madigan made a point of staying in their seats and not applauding. …
About 500 protesters gathered outside the Dorothy Chandler Pavilion Sunday afternoon, armed with placards adorned with such slogans as “Elia Kazan: Nominated for the Benedict Arnold Award,” “Don’t Whitewash the Blacklist” and “Kazan–the Linda Tripp of the ’50s.”
The clip of the award can be seen here, complete with the notorious glares coming from actors Ed Harris and Amy Madigan, both of whom were toddlers when Kazan testified to HUAC. Forty-seven years after Kazan’s decision, hundreds of his colleagues still shunned him for his actions at HUAC. And for what? Having made an arguably misguided decision* to blow the whistle on Communist activities that Kazan believed to be a threat to the adopted nation that he loved.
I have no idea on whether Harris or Madigan have specifically expressed support or criticism for Polanski, but their colleagues have almost in unison erupted in demands for forgiveness for the fugitive, arguing that 32 years is too long to hold a grudge and that an old man should be allowed to live his remaining years in peace, honored as an artist. And what are we to forgive? The rape and sodomy of a 13-year-old girl, whom Polanski drugged first.
Acting to protect the country from a perceived threat: lifetime shunning.
Drugging, raping, and sodomizing a 13-year-old girl: Forgiveness and hero worship.
That’s one seriously perverted sense of values.
Addendum: I know that some will object to “arguably misguided” from both directions, but I think Kazan chose poorly and that the HUAC effort was a Constitutional affront. The First Amendment guarantees the right of political speech and thought, and membership in the Communist Party then and now should not have been an issue on which anyone needed to testify under oath to Congress. I understand that the Cold War was in its most fraught stage and that times were different, but the Constitution applies at all times, or it doesn’t apply at all.
I’d also like to point out that most of the Left and Right agree on Polanski, which I find very encouraging. You won’t find too many issues on which Kathy Kattenburg, my friend Michael Stickings, and me see eye to eye. With the exception of the celebrity wing at the HuffPo, we have a broad consensus that Polanski needs to face justice.
Update: The Village Voice has a satire that is not to be missed:
Use your sense memory, people. It was a different time — the heady days of 1970s Hollywood — and, as the great Stanislavski said in his seminal work, “Building a Character,” there is truth-truth and then there is artistic-truth. Rape is life!
Maybe you don’t know that Roman Polanski is a Holocaust survivor. And that his wife, Sharon Tate, was murdered by the Manson family. If you knew that, you would probably feel bad for him, and forgive him for raping a child. Why DO bad things happen to good people? It’s weird.
Maybe you don’t know that Roman Polanski is not just a filmmaker, but a really really good filmmaker. And certainly you don’t know that he was on his way to a film festival when apprehended. And you must not know that film festivals are historically sacred ground, havens of pure cinema where people buy and sell everything but their souls remain intact.
Maybe you aren’t aware — and really, thanks to author Robert Harris for pointing this out in today’s New York Times –that “Mr. Polanski’s own young children, to whom he is a doting father, want him home. ” If you had known that, surely you would have forgiven him by now. If he’s not around to raise his kids, who would prevent them from getting raped by good people?
Ouch. What would Anne Applebaum think? (h/t HA reader Tommy)










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Yes, yes you are.
HornetSting on September 30, 2009 at 3:41 PM
Hollywood types have a template, and what doesn’t fit is to be shunned, mocked, or destroyed. Common sense need not be involved as part of the template.
Polanski fits in it, though Kazan has far more professional credits and for longer than Polanski.
Kazan took a bold step testifying, but I don’t believe it’s the business of Congress who belongs to which political party.The Constitution doesn’t allow for the outlawing of any political party unless that party advocates the violent overthrow of the US government (treason) or it’s members commit such acts that will result in direct harm to the government and/or people (again, treason like the Rosenbergs committed and properly paid for under the law).
Hollywood is selective, of course, because of its template of always-changeable values. Kazan is the better professional over Polanski, so Kazan should be ‘respected’ like Hollywood demands be granted to Polanski.
Of course, reality and solid values get in Hollywood’s way so I know what the future holds there regarding Kazan’s good name.
Liam on September 30, 2009 at 3:42 PM
Hey Annin? Spacing out your sentences doesn’t make the meaning any more profound, OK? They are just as dopey apart as they are together.
CarolynM on September 30, 2009 at 3:42 PM
Roman Polanski raped and sodomized a thirteen year-old girl.
Please feel free to edit this, substituting any words you think make it more clear.
massrighty on September 30, 2009 at 3:43 PM
PS; about that bus Reagan mentioned; Peter schweizer in ‘Reagan’s War’:
So you see Rosa Parks was not the only one who rode a bus for freedom. And that’s why Kazan testified.
Noel on September 30, 2009 at 3:43 PM
I value your opinion. :)
ladyingray on September 30, 2009 at 3:43 PM
While I do not like what HUAC did — there shouldn’t be a government imposed penalty for political views (and there was political pressure on Hollywood to blacklist these people) I also have no sympathy for subversive communists. Ones who are upfront about their views, we can debate in a healthy, democratic way, but those who hide are committing treason against what the United States of America stands for.
rbj on September 30, 2009 at 3:44 PM
You are the most stupid person with whom I have ever interacted.
ladyingray on September 30, 2009 at 3:44 PM
Let’s see how Hollywood takes care of it’s Children:
Brittany Spears
Judy Garland
Tatum O’neil
Mackenzie Phillips
River Phoenix
bloggless on September 30, 2009 at 3:44 PM
WTF?
lovingmyUSA on September 30, 2009 at 3:44 PM
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Get out of CA then, because the Feds are gonna force us to release 40,000 inmates. THAT is gonna be chaotic.
I wouldnt mind an end to plea bargains, and most parole. I also wouldn’t mind Arpaio-style tent camps in the desert instead of prisons. And I think that will seem more reasonable once Los Angeles burns down AGAIN.
Chris_Balsz on September 30, 2009 at 3:45 PM
I have been about done with giving Hollywood any more of my money for a while now. Movies cost too much and I wouldn’t want to contribute to this “capitalism” thing that some of these schmucks find so evil. Book club and tequila party at my house everyone! ;)
BakerAllie on September 30, 2009 at 3:45 PM
Off the top of my head, this story (or at least the Dr. Parnassus character) is rather old, no? I’m thinking Debussy and The Children’s Corner. Someone help me.
[BigD on September 30, 2009 at 3:40 PM]
The links are the synopsiseseses of the flicks. Yes, he is old, then he makes a pack with the Devil to become young to as to court and marry a younger woman. Then he doesn’t want to die or something so he makes another pack giving the devil his first born when he/she is 16yo. It’s a she and when she get’s close to 16 he changes his mind and becomes the valiant father, yada, yada, yada.
Youth in Revolt is about 14yo’s and losing their virginity. Trailer park parents of the boy make a cameo.
Dusty on September 30, 2009 at 3:46 PM
I see no contradiction between the Constitution and congressional testimony about whether someone was a Communist. Or a Nazi.
No contradiction at all.
tsj017 on September 30, 2009 at 3:46 PM
Proof positive that California has lead contamination in their pot growing farms.
Fletch54 on September 30, 2009 at 3:47 PM
Hollywood is completely out of touch with mainstreet America people should start if they haven’t already boycotting their movies.
That said Sarah Palin’s book is already #2 on Amazon and it hasn’t been released yet she knocked Glenn Beck’s new book Arguing with Idiots back to #3
http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/books/ref=sv_b_3
Explain to me why Socialism is allowed in this country? When Nazism was outlawed in Germany, and we outlawed Batthist in Iraq- Iraq’s socialist party. Why does America have to suffer Socialist? That has never made sense to me.
Dr Evil on September 30, 2009 at 3:47 PM
Don’t forget:
Drew Barrymore
Lindsey Lohan
ladyingray on September 30, 2009 at 3:47 PM
Well, then, many of you leave the moderates again, talking to one another.
You think torture is fine. It’s all about morality to some of you.
No, it’s all about actions to many of us. Polanski’s behavior isn’t one whit better than torture.
That’s how many of us in the ‘middle’ see it.
They are ALL creeps, thugs, and I want nothing to do with any of them.
But….but…we are barbaric by nature. The law is the only barrier.
It should be respected.
AnninCA on September 30, 2009 at 3:48 PM
The only thing that was decided was that you are a idiot.
pseudonominus on September 30, 2009 at 3:48 PM
Off the top of my head, this story (or at least the Dr.
Dusty — I meant that the whole Dr. Parnassus story is old, whatever the originall story is, which I am not sure off the top of my head. Debussy composed some piano pieces in which Dr. Parnassus featured. Blah, blah, blah — I need to go look it up.
BigD on September 30, 2009 at 3:49 PM
Scorcese presented Kazan his award.
And he signed the Free Child Rapists petition.
(Maybe he’s just very forgiving)
Abby Adams on September 30, 2009 at 3:49 PM
Polanski needs to do the time for his crime. Period. That is respecting the law.
ladyingray on September 30, 2009 at 3:50 PM
Drew Barrymore
Lindsey Lohan
Brittany Spears
Judy Garland
Tatum O’neil
Mackenzie Phillips
River Phoenix
PLEASE COPY AND PASTE AS YOU ADD TO THE LIST.
bloggless on September 30, 2009 at 3:50 PM
Where is the Duke University Gang of 88 (professors and similar reptilian types)?
They felt very strongly (and even marched and took out newspaper advertisements) about a rape which didn’t occur, but they are strangely silent about one which did, in fact, occur and was perpetrated on a 13 year old child.
Where are these morally obtuse intellectual yahoos now?
molonlabe28 on September 30, 2009 at 3:50 PM
Suddenly I find it hard to see the keys on my keyboard, must have gotten something in my eye. Think it may have been the reflection of my flag outside my window–when I looked up from reading your words…Thank you for that moving passage.
lovingmyUSA on September 30, 2009 at 3:50 PM
It matters little what reasoned arguments are presented to AnninCA. She will not deviate from the idea that the rape of a child and authorizing the use of water boarding on suspected terrorists are somehow morally or legally equivalent. She can’t grasp how different those two constructs actually are.
She also can’t seem to comprehend that the Judge in Polanski’s case had every right to set aside the plea deal, and that Polanski’s punishment and sentence were not yet imposed before he fled.
She also fails to appreciate the double standard in our culture wherein crimes committed by liberals are negligible, but virtually any act of patriotism committed by a conservative is akin to murder.
anXdem on September 30, 2009 at 3:50 PM
Ed Harris and Amy Madigan? Perennial supporting players… nothing more; and idiots to boot.
And Ed, what’s with the HUAC was an affront bit? This was not a situation of communists simply wanting to organize and speak out under the protection of the First Amendment; this was a situation occurring in a climate when communists had infiltrated our government and industry and were facilitating the communication of classified information to our enemy.
I swear, every so often you appear to leave your testicles in a jar somewhere.
D2Boston on September 30, 2009 at 3:51 PM
SNAP!!
ladyingray on September 30, 2009 at 3:51 PM
The only “leverage” I need with a criminal might be a TRIPOD for my PERSUADER.
You are a D1CKLESS IDIOT.
seejanemom on September 30, 2009 at 3:51 PM
HornetSting on September 30, 2009 at 3:52 PM
I’m sorry, but the waterboarding of an adult who is suspected of planning a terrorist attack to kill thousands is not the same thing as the drugging and raping of a child. That moral equivalency does not fly.
BakerAllie on September 30, 2009 at 3:53 PM
I wonder if the ones that stood to applaud Kazan were doing so because he had directed Lolita
Dudley Smith on September 30, 2009 at 3:55 PM
Waterboarding a terrorist to get needed intel = IMMORAL
Drugging and raping a child = MORAL
Aborting that child before it can get raped = PRICELESS
ladyingray on September 30, 2009 at 3:56 PM
You are a moron.
Prosecute Cheney for torture????
Show me where waterboarding is ‘torture’ to be prosecuted.
Here’s federal law: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/
Here’s the military law: http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/ucmj.htm
Have fun!
battleoflepanto1571 on September 30, 2009 at 3:56 PM
So if the victim drops the charges, does that matter to anyone here wanting a pound of flesh?
Again, our justice system is designed to keep us safe from predators. This man hasn’t been in the US for 32 years. I don’t give a crap who he is or what he has done. I’m not even a fan of movies. They are crap and boring and unoriginal.
But to say that justice has not been served misunderstands ‘justice’.
I support torture to keep us safe. I don’t mind that this man who was convicted paid a fine and lived in exile for 32 years. He didn’t harm any more American kids. I don’t like what he did, but the people on here saying that he should be killed are ridiculous. They should have their heads examined.
I repeat. . . people on here saying that this person should be killed for ‘justice’ are what makes the people on the right seem kooky and vindictive.
ThackerAgency on September 30, 2009 at 3:57 PM
Addendum, for AnninCA:
WATERBOARDING IS NOT TORTURE. YOU ARE A LIAR. YOU MIGHT AS WELL PROSECUTE CHENEY FOR EATING DAFFODILS ON THE PLANET GINGLAR. EITHER WAY THE “CRIME” DOESNT EXIST
battleoflepanto1571 on September 30, 2009 at 3:57 PM
Seriously, all you people going out on a limb here saying that rape of a minor should have a punishment, what punishment do you want to give him?
Basically I’m asking. . . what will make you feel better? Because nothing that happens will make a whit of difference in any of your lives.
ThackerAgency on September 30, 2009 at 3:58 PM
You mean like Nicole Brown Simpson did?
Dr Evil on September 30, 2009 at 3:58 PM
Including the only actual statute contained in the US Constitution: treason. Forgetting that we have actual enemies and giving support to those enemies is a crime — again, the only crime specified in the USC — could well be our last nail. The limit to the freedom of anything goes exactly to the point someone tries to eliminate the document which enshrines those freedoms. It’s very similar to the “right to swing your fist until it hits my nose” analysis.
I can’t be the only person who actually shuddered when Obama said he would “fundamentally transform the United States”. It’s funny that it’s always the people who defend the original constitutional republic are accused of using “code words.” Projection much?
Mind your grundnorm or become just another second-rate banana ‘republic’.
Beagle on September 30, 2009 at 3:59 PM
I don’t want him killed. I want him thrown in prison with his new best friend, Bubba. Bubba is from the Ozarks.
ladyingray on September 30, 2009 at 3:59 PM
Mmmmm Mmmmm Mmm
Must Derail All Threads
Mmmmm Mmmmm Mmm
Christien on September 30, 2009 at 3:59 PM
Long ago, before I knew her for what she is, I spent an hour teaching Ann how to use the quote button. At the time I didn’t tell her what I was thinking the whole time.
Now I will: Ann you’re an idiot!
DarkCurrent on September 30, 2009 at 3:59 PM
It shouldn’t surprise anybody these elite idiots believe they are above the law. We should just let him off he hook because he was a great filmmaker? If thats the case lets let everyone off the hook who’s good at something(Doctors, Teachers, etc….)
jaboba on September 30, 2009 at 3:59 PM
Depends on your definition of torture. My definition is making people decide between burning up, when a plane hit their office building, or free-falling out of the broken windows 90 stories above the pavement. Torture is watching the buildings collapse with their loved ones inside, not even having a wedding ring left. Torture is listening to your husband say “Let’s roll” on the phone, knowing he has decided his fate…
lovingmyUSA on September 30, 2009 at 4:00 PM
When I was looking things up, I looked for movies coming out soon. I checked BoxOfficeMojo to confirm that they were not out yet. This one is supposed to be released here in the US on Dec 25, 2009.
Dusty on September 30, 2009 at 4:00 PM
yeah, because the victim here is dead now too. I don’t even want to go over why that analogy is ridiculous. It is wrong in so many ways. OJ was acquitted. Polanski at least was convicted.
ThackerAgency on September 30, 2009 at 4:01 PM
For the record, I agree with whomever it was who posted that AnninCA had jumped the shark.
myrenovations on September 30, 2009 at 4:01 PM
Besides, commies areatheists.
Chris_Balsz on September 30, 2009 at 4:02 PM
how is being exiled and fined ‘above the law’?
I suppose Napoleon was ‘above the law’ because he was just exiled for his actions.
ThackerAgency on September 30, 2009 at 4:02 PM
Here is a more current case of a young woman being abused and what significance her not wanting to press charges resulted in…also happened in California.
http://www.redroom.com/blog/ellen-r-sheeley/chris-brown-and-rihanna-oj-and-nicole-brown-simpson-redux
Dr Evil on September 30, 2009 at 4:02 PM
You post. Some here respond, with a question intended to get you to see another perspective. You ignore the question.
No; we don’t think the former VP sanctioned torture. We’re thankful the prior administration used forceful methods to keep us safe.
Yes, because we have morals.
Lacking a moral test to pass them through, how do you evaluate actions?
Agreed. Rape is bad. Torture is bad. Conflating strong defense with torture is also bad.
Only because you don’t use reason and logic.
Whenever you fall into aranting about “they” and “them,” your arguments falter.
Perhaps. But, I’ve never raped anyone, or fled incarceration. I control my “natural barbarism.”
Nope. Morality works, too.
Yes, that’s why Polanski should return, serve his sentence, and use the appeals process. That would be ‘respecting the law.’
massrighty on September 30, 2009 at 4:02 PM
I think the Venona papers pretty much exhonerated Kazan.
Has anyone yet seen a single MSM mention of the fact that this victim wasn’t Pervertski’s only victim?
Pssst…corrupt MSM, google the name Nastassja Kinski. Or do you need Hannah and James to make you a video?
BlueStateBilly on September 30, 2009 at 4:03 PM
:)
How’ve you been, DC?
ladyingray on September 30, 2009 at 4:03 PM
I no longer (not that I ever had) feel guilty about pirating movies and other Hollywood junk.
I’ll be on the street hawking them for $5 a piece with $0 going to Hollywood.
uknowmorethanme on September 30, 2009 at 4:03 PM
Our justice system doesn’t allow improv by convicts as to their punishment.
Chris_Balsz on September 30, 2009 at 4:04 PM
There were reports of OJ abusing her when they were still married the police were called to their home.
Yes it is the same, you stated if the woman didn’t want to press charges does it change anything. NO not in California not according to their laws.
Dr Evil on September 30, 2009 at 4:04 PM
Sentenced. Fled to escape incarceration. Caught.
Now, he should serve his sentence, and appeal within the law.
This is actually easy.
massrighty on September 30, 2009 at 4:04 PM
What law spelled that out as a punishment?
Chris_Balsz on September 30, 2009 at 4:05 PM
Napoleon’s punishment was exile.
Polanski’s was supposed to be prison.
There is a difference. Learn it.
ladyingray on September 30, 2009 at 4:05 PM
Ann suffers from cranium rectal inversion. There is no amount of lube that can “rectify” this situation.
milwife88 on September 30, 2009 at 4:05 PM
I think Stanley Kubrick directed Lolita.
Mr. D on September 30, 2009 at 4:06 PM
She was worse yesterday, she thought no sentence for Polanski, and if he did go to jail, the judicial system would be set back 50 years, or something like that.
A little wacko…but entertaining as she shifts her position.
right2bright on September 30, 2009 at 4:06 PM
Why are you defending the actions of a child rapist?
Dr Evil on September 30, 2009 at 4:06 PM
If free speech is the answer, then why is hiding your communist party affiliation the goal?
FeFe on September 30, 2009 at 4:06 PM
Polanski doesn’t.
I believe the plea arrangement didn’t make it to the judge’s bench yet (I could be wrong; and frankly, that is extremely low on the priority list of the particulars in this case). If not, there is no such bargain. If so, then appeal on that circumstance for reduction of sentence.
Do we have that luxury when a felon flees to avoid justice for over 30 years?
The one true breach in this whole thing was committed by the felon. The above argument/concern is null and void because of this point. It’s not even of ‘afterthought’ category. No resolution of case.
Even if one misguidedly believes waterboarding should become legally classified as torture, you (we) will have a large problem with ex post facto law. Strictly and explicitly forbidden by the US Constitution.
anuts on September 30, 2009 at 4:06 PM
Dr Evil on September 30, 2009 at 4:04 PM
OK, I’ll just make the most obvious flaw in your argument since you are nipping at the edges. Simpson is dead. The victim in this case is not.
You are suggesting that exiling the criminal will result in the victim here being killed by the criminal. I’m not very bright, but I doubt a similar fate will become her.
ThackerAgency on September 30, 2009 at 4:07 PM
You need to read The Committee and its Critics by WFB.
corona on September 30, 2009 at 4:07 PM
Noel, thanks for posting the strike story.
Western_Civ on September 30, 2009 at 4:07 PM
This is what it comes down to. I’m not defending anyone. I just think his exile and fine is a punishment. You think that means I’m ‘defending what he did’. F You.
ThackerAgency on September 30, 2009 at 4:08 PM
“Exiled”?
No… he fled jail. Living life on the lam isn’t the same thing as being “exiled”.
Also:
Abby Adams on September 30, 2009 at 4:08 PM
You mean the agreement that no decision as to his sentence had been made and would not be made until the court read the diagnostic hearing and probation reports and probation recommendations and that Polanski stated in open court and on the record that he understood?
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0928091polanskiplea8.html
Blake on September 30, 2009 at 4:09 PM
Wow.
Do you look at all criminal behavior this way? Is it true you lust after minor girls in your heart? I think you said something like that the other day.
AsianGirlInTights on September 30, 2009 at 4:09 PM
As Sidney Hook pointed out at that time, it is one thing to hold communist views but quite another to be an active member of the Communist Party since the party was utterly devoted to the cause of the Soviet Union and Josef Stalin.
Those who were former communists or who joined the party in their youths were terribly mistreated.
Those who were active communists working for the Party got want they deserved.
SteveMG on September 30, 2009 at 4:10 PM
liberal – noun. 1) Soulless
kirkill on September 30, 2009 at 4:10 PM
Hey, cupcake…this is how the court system has worked for decades….you crack me up, we can all better understand how CA is so messed up with people like you voting there….a women who thinks that raping a 13 year old girl, drugging her and repeatedly raping then sodomizing her, deserves no jail time….un-F’in-believable…makes one wonder if there is not something else going on in your life, something you are afraid to confront.
right2bright on September 30, 2009 at 4:11 PM
ANNINCA… IM WAITING…
Ever since I asked you to show me where “waterboarding” is “torture” and a “criminal act” (i even gave you links to the US federal code & uniform military code), you haven’t posted once….
Show us your answers!!! Where’s the ‘torture’???
battleoflepanto1571 on September 30, 2009 at 4:11 PM
By your logic, I assume you’re not so sure we should arrest the shooter of the Tiller abortion doctor, or the shooter of the pro-lifer in Michigan; because realisitcally, the two men are already dead, and they were specific targets, so what good would come from locking them up… right?
Right?
battleoflepanto1571 on September 30, 2009 at 4:13 PM
Thacker — you are busted on this one and you should have just stayed away.
BigD on September 30, 2009 at 4:13 PM
Life imprisonment seems about fair to me.
You’re wrong. My life will benefit knowing that something as heinous as what Polanski did will not go unpunished. I will be releived to know that state sponsored encouragement to flee justice (as long as it’s approximately 30 years or so) does not become precedent. My life will be affected by seeing just how deep and vast our country plans on respecting rule of law.
anuts on September 30, 2009 at 4:14 PM
Are you as dumb as Ann? He wasn’t ‘exiled’, he became a fugitive by choice.
AsianGirlInTights on September 30, 2009 at 4:15 PM
Oh my gosh! Those are on the endangered species list, right alongside the Kerry spotted slug. (Yes, there really is such an appropriately named creature).
Shy Guy on September 30, 2009 at 4:16 PM
Big ups to French director Luc Besson (The Transporter, Taken) for refusing to sign.
MechEng5by5 on September 30, 2009 at 4:17 PM
This is what it comes down to. I’m not defending anyone. I just think his exile and fine is a punishment. You think that means I’m ‘defending what he did’. F You.
I’m glad that you are in favor of criminals determining their own sentence. He was not exiled, he is a fugitive from justice. What “fine” did he pay?
uknowmorethanme on September 30, 2009 at 4:17 PM
I have already addressed you, you need some serious counseling…for two day you have been petitioning for Polanski to get off (no pun intended) without punishment…I will repeat what I stated to Annin: un-F’in-believable…makes one wonder if there is not something else going on in your life, something you are afraid to confront.
Thacker, after two days of this, you must begin to realize you need professional help, I am sincere. Go back and read some of your excuses…”she was sexy”, espressions like you can’t expect a man to control his urges, a 13 year old is old enough to make these decisions, then you base it on what? The way she shops….bizarre, you equate a girls asking to be raped because of the way she shops…you need help my friend.
If you like I can send you a link to some good professionals in the Raleigh area.
right2bright on September 30, 2009 at 4:17 PM
The Polanski case provides a good lesson on the moral perspective from which the Hollywood elite speaks. The next time we hear them opinie on anything…Gay marriage, Global warming, health care…speed limits for all I care…everyone should just remember that the thought process is one that is out of step with that of normal people and is, in some cases, perverse. It is judgement that has no credibility and ought not to be respected.
Blaise on September 30, 2009 at 4:18 PM
Basically I’m asking. . . what will make you feel better? Because nothing that happens will make a whit of difference in any of your lives.
And I’m glad you have no morals whatsoever. It’s the principle douchebag. I can’t stand people who support CHILD RAPISTS!!! Because that is what you are doing whether you like it or not. The guy has NEVER served any punishment for RAPING a 13 year old girl. How you can rationalize him having no accountability is beyond comprehension.
uknowmorethanme on September 30, 2009 at 4:19 PM
You really don’t mess around do you? Remind me to never disagree with you. Noel’s reflection of Reagan was a heart warmer, but you just go right for the tear ducts.
btw: I agree with you whole heartedly.
Blacksmith8 on September 30, 2009 at 4:19 PM
To those on the Left, “the law” should only be “respected” when it is politically advantagoeus to them.
“The law”, in this case UN sanctions against Iraq, were ignored by the Left for over a decade.
Democrats were silent when “the law”, in the form of Bill Clinton’s Justice Dept., successfully prosecuted a female Federal employee for lying about sex under oath. But when the head “law enforcement official” in the country got caught doing the same thing, he was held by these same people to be above “the law”.
I could give you plenty of additional examples, but I know you have to get back to your classes at Moe Howard University School of Law.
Del Dolemonte on September 30, 2009 at 4:21 PM
As I remembered it, he didn’t get a collective standing ovation… turns out I have amnesia.
Here is Polanski wining the Oscar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccQaW99vOkI
Michelle Dubois on September 30, 2009 at 4:21 PM
Aaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnn!
Aaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnn?
Cmon, where ARRRRREEEEE you?
Show me where waterboarding is ‘torture’ to be prosecuted.
Here’s federal law: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/
Here’s the military law: http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/ucmj.htm
battleoflepanto1571 on September 30, 2009 at 4:22 PM
It will become a dark day when the criminal justice code factors in forgiveness by victims beyond what may be considered sentencing by specific cases. Bring him back. Have it considered during his sentencing phase…if jury and judge, prosecution and defense deem it necessary.
anuts on September 30, 2009 at 4:23 PM
I’m a big Hollywood Golden Age fan. I’m no longer interested. I think it’s because the films are all so one sided now. In the old days you could have Titans like Kirk Douglas and John Wayne (literally lol) fighting it out from opposite sides of the political spectrum. Now they are just one sided anti Republican pamphlets.
I watched Clooney’s film on McCarthyism. It’s a waste of space. There’s no discussion of what he was doing, or why, or of his point of view; he’s just a nasty cartoon character.
And French cinema is worse. And most of it is done with public money. I’m considering retaining some income tax, because I don’t see why my tax euros should subsidise child rapist apologists.
Hope on September 30, 2009 at 4:23 PM
So if i can drug an actors underage child throw them in a hot tub and have my way with them, thats OK. Good to know.
Greed on September 30, 2009 at 4:23 PM
Moe Howard thought more clearly, wrote more lucidly, and had more moral integrity than those who would try to find any justification for this.
They’re not even good enough to be stooges!
massrighty on September 30, 2009 at 4:23 PM
Pedophilia is not a liberal or conservative problem…maybe supporting this “star” is a liberal cause.
But we have supposed “conservatives” on this site supporting his release.
You are in deep trouble if you think part of a profile of a child molester is having a political bent. Defending, I this is probably what you meant, leans more towards being liberal…but the act is not political, it is a mental illness that effects primarily men, and NAMBLA is proof of that. And organization that would defend his actions.
right2bright on September 30, 2009 at 4:23 PM
Aaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnn!
Aaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnn?
Cmon, where ARRRRREEEEE you?
Show me where waterboarding is ‘torture’ to be prosecuted.
Here’s federal law: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/
Here’s the military law: http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/ucmj.htm
battleoflepanto1571 on September 30, 2009 at 4:22 PM
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The UN said waterboarding is torture. That is the “law” that these people are citing. Cheney can’t be tried by the US, maybe the Hague, but definately not by domestic law.
uknowmorethanme on September 30, 2009 at 4:24 PM
LOL, he wasn’t sent to Elba like Napoleon, kid, he fled the country to avoid a jail sentence.
Wow, the squirrels are out today, I see.
Del Dolemonte on September 30, 2009 at 4:24 PM
Yep, the Hollywood chumps were getting their orders from soviet agents – the soviet union who wanted to overthrow our form of government. I have no sympathy for these people. It’s funny that some tool from Moscow was telling them what to write and to think. Hollywood reds didn’t believe in free political thought and speech because they were told what to think and to say by their ruskie handlers and they attacked anyone who did not toe the party line.
Blake on September 30, 2009 at 4:25 PM
The award for best use of the ’343′ designation goes to…
Del Delmonte!
massrighty on September 30, 2009 at 4:26 PM
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