Let’s have Feinstine go to middle east and ask or show us how American prisoners are treated. Are they given the same civil rights of the country that captured them? No. they are considered expendable and after any information is gathered they are executed because it costs to keep a prisoner alive.

Focus. The U.S. is the only country in the world that fights by a set of rules called the Geneva Convention. Our enemies do not even know, signed, or give a rip of the contents of the Geneva Convention. War is ugly but simple. Beat the enemy into submission.

Put them up in the State Assembly building in Sacramento, they can’t do any worse.

Or….build a metal building next to Barbara Streisands’ Malibu oasis.

Or….near Feinsteins’ house.

Heck…..Put them in the Governors Mansion, or in Gavin Newsoms’ campaign headquarters.

Does Charley Rangel have a house in the Caribbean he could rent to the U.S. govt?

I mean….you could go on and on with this one.
DNC headquarters? RNC headquarters? Ron Pauls’ district?

Wouldn’t that be Cruel and Unusual Punishment? (wink)

Isn’t THAT the real issue?

AnninCA on September 28, 2009 at 3:59 PM

It is the only issue. The map looks thus:

Once they arrive on US soil, they are automatically given rights. One of those is a right to a speedy trial. they can sue to be tried immediately or released. If the Justice system takes them to trial, the US Attorneys will have to decide what to charge them with. That will require evidence. Will they be charged with killing someone (no federal murder statute)? Crimes against humanity?

What sort of evidence is available? “We captured him on the battlefield. He was carrying a gun”. Uh, so was everyon else in Iraq and Afghanistan. Was that a crime?

More importantly, who has jurisdiction to actually charge them with a crime? If it’s for killing people in a war zone, wouldn’t they be charged with committing a crime against the people of Iraq/Afghanistan? Certainly not the US.

If it’s crimes against humanity, they should be tried in those countries where those crimes occurred, or in the Hague. Certainly not in Federal Court in California.

Since there is no crime under US law they can be charged with, they will either be released, or if any country wants to try them for crimes committed there, extradition will have to occur.

Isn’t THAT the real issue?

AnninCA on September 28, 2009 at 3:59 PM

As I see it, all points are “the” issue. You may call it fear mongering, but I call it Prior Planning Prevents Poor Performance… you have to take a look at all the possibilities. Retaining Military Jurisdiction is important, but looking at the risk those prisoners might impose on the communities those Federal Facilities are located in or near is just as important. Senator Feinstein seems to only look at the now……… Look what was just uncovered recently in New York. And as someone previously stated, it’s much easier to target “main-land” facilities than Gitmo….

Pelican Bay is the worst. The Feds have been threatening to take it over. The gang violence is absolutely the worst there.

But the issue about GITMO, from my reading, isn’t the housing. It’s how to treat them. Once they are within the Federal system, aren’t they out of the military jurisdiction?

Isn’t THAT the real issue?

Some of the most violent members of the Aryan Brotherhood are housed at the USMCFP in Springfield, MO. I’d love to see the Gitmo gang sent there. Google the name Clayton Fountain and you’ll see what I mean.

Firmworm on September 28, 2009 at 3:31 PM

Yeah, they’d have to be separate from the general population. Otherwise, they wouldn’t survive.

I thought that was truly the big deal. The rest is just fear-mongering nonsense.

Oh, I know. We should be compassionate because every one of these detainees just LOVES America SO much. Well, that’s why I offer these two detention spots rather than simply chopping off their heads with a machete and burning their corpses. Compassion. The same compassion they show everyone over in sand land.

Betty Crocker on Crack, or Betty Cracker.

I’m sure it would be considered a win-win as Berkeley welcomes them.

Amazing. She is so clueless she hasn’t even a clue her own state is broke and the prison system is bloated.

OMG!

FireBlogger on September 28, 2009 at 2:52 PM

This is a billback to the Feds.