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Feinstein: Let’s house Gitmo detainees in California

posted at 12:55 pm on September 28, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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California has already begun working to empty its prisons in response to its massive budget gap, so at least they’ll have some room for a few al-Qaeda terrorists, if Senator Dianne Feinstein gets her way. Not only did Feinstein volunteer California, she also volunteered Missouri as well. Senator Kit Bond (R-MO) was not eager to accept, as he said to Fox News Sunday’s Chris Wallace:

WALLACE: We’ve got about a minute left. Senator Feinstein, I’m going to throw one other thing into the hopper. The White House is now acknowledging they almost certainly are not going to meet their deadline by next January for closing the prison at Guantanamo. And there is a story today that indicates they are close to making a decision to send some of the detainees, the 223 detainees, to locations here in the U.S. Will Congress allow that?

FEINSTEIN: Well, as you know, I’m one that believes very strongly Guantanamo should be closed, and I believe it can be done. I’m also one that’s somewhat familiar with the prison structure in the United States. And I know that there are maximum security prisons from which no one escapes in the United States, which are isolated from neighborhoods. And no one is going to put these people in anyone’s neighborhood, as some have tried to say.

WALLACE: So you’ll be OK with having some of these detainees in California?

FEINSTEIN: Yes. In a maximum security prison, I don’t worry about it, provided the prison is set up to accommodate it, and I believe we have facilities that are.

WALLACE: Senator Bond, you get the last word.

BOND: I — this is one of the areas on which Senator Feinstein and I disagree. I think Guantanamo is the best place to hold these hardened criminals. We don’t want to put them in our general prison population where they have and will radicalize other prisoners. They will draw their friends in Al Qaeda to come into the area from the outside. I wouldn’t mind seeing them at Alcatraz, but my California friends have minimum amount of high enthusiasm for that. But if they’re sick, they’re transferred to the federal Springfield, Missouri medical facility in my state, and my constituents and I think that would be a very bad idea.

Bond points out the logistical problems in housing international terrorists in facilities designed to hold domestic criminals. They can recruit among the prison population, not all of whom would spend the rest of their lives behind bars. When they get sick, the US has to get them to medical facilities within the community, which means increased risk, no matter what Feinstein says.

More problematic, though, is the legal consequences of committing them to domestic facilities. That gives them access to the courts, which they will use and abuse in any attempt to free themselves. They will get funding for unending and ludicrous complaints, which will eat up valuable resources, or worse, succeed in finding a judge with more time than sense.

What Feinstein cannot answer is why Gitmo has to be closed in the first place. It was designed for its purpose, which is military detention in a time of war. If Feinstein doesn’t like the processes and procedures, then fix them — but the detention of unlawful combatants is a military problem, not a civil problem, and should be conducted by the military in a facility expressly designed for that purpose.


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CA prisons are some of the roughest in the nation. We introduced the 3-Strikes law. Actually, it worked. We’e brought down violent crime statistics. the battle over beds is over the druggies, who are often nothing more than theives, etc.

Pelican Bay is the worst. The Feds have been threatening to take it over. The gang violence is absolutely the worst there.

But the issue about GITMO, from my reading, isn’t the housing. It’s how to treat them. Once they are within the Federal system, aren’t they out of the military jurisdiction?

Isn’t THAT the real issue?

AnninCA on September 28, 2009 at 3:59 PM

Isn’t THAT the real issue?

AnninCA on September 28, 2009 at 3:59 PM

As I see it, all points are “the” issue. You may call it fear mongering, but I call it Prior Planning Prevents Poor Performance… you have to take a look at all the possibilities. Retaining Military Jurisdiction is important, but looking at the risk those prisoners might impose on the communities those Federal Facilities are located in or near is just as important. Senator Feinstein seems to only look at the now……… Look what was just uncovered recently in New York. And as someone previously stated, it’s much easier to target “main-land” facilities than Gitmo….

HouseHold6 on September 28, 2009 at 4:23 PM

Isn’t THAT the real issue?

AnninCA on September 28, 2009 at 3:59 PM

It is the only issue. The map looks thus:

Once they arrive on US soil, they are automatically given rights. One of those is a right to a speedy trial. they can sue to be tried immediately or released. If the Justice system takes them to trial, the US Attorneys will have to decide what to charge them with. That will require evidence. Will they be charged with killing someone (no federal murder statute)? Crimes against humanity?

What sort of evidence is available? “We captured him on the battlefield. He was carrying a gun”. Uh, so was everyon else in Iraq and Afghanistan. Was that a crime?

More importantly, who has jurisdiction to actually charge them with a crime? If it’s for killing people in a war zone, wouldn’t they be charged with committing a crime against the people of Iraq/Afghanistan? Certainly not the US.

If it’s crimes against humanity, they should be tried in those countries where those crimes occurred, or in the Hague. Certainly not in Federal Court in California.

Since there is no crime under US law they can be charged with, they will either be released, or if any country wants to try them for crimes committed there, extradition will have to occur.

BobMbx on September 28, 2009 at 4:26 PM

DiFi is on to something
We know what that means
Richard Blum will be profiting

macncheez on September 28, 2009 at 4:31 PM

So California sets prisoners free to continue committing crime then wants to send terrorists there???? Is she going to kick them to the streets also to join the rest they kicked out? Does this creature have a brain at all?

pitter43 on September 28, 2009 at 4:39 PM

Frankenstien is an IDIOT.

BigMike252 on September 28, 2009 at 5:34 PM

“Let’s house Gitmo detainees in California…”

Wouldn’t that be Cruel and Unusual Punishment? (wink)

Irenaeus on September 28, 2009 at 5:53 PM

Feinstein needs to be shark bait.

nelsonknows on September 28, 2009 at 6:09 PM

I have an idea! Bring the Gitmo animals to Commiefornia and turn them over to me, I GUARANTEE you will never hear from them again. We WILL have really fat sharks off the coast of Commiefornia though.

nelsonknows on September 28, 2009 at 6:11 PM

Hey Feinstein, send those animals that we keep at their zoo in Gitmo to the Ozarks, the State of Missouri has an order to shoot all wild hogs on sight and shooting a sandape terrorist will be NO PROBLEM.

nelsonknows on September 28, 2009 at 9:29 PM

I believe that Madame Speaker Pelosi has a nice hotel that we could house these wonderful people in… Either Napa or Sonoma… No worries…

Khun Joe on September 28, 2009 at 10:31 PM

Hells Bells…..

Put them up in the State Assembly building in Sacramento, they can’t do any worse.

Or….build a metal building next to Barbara Streisands’ Malibu oasis.

Or….near Feinsteins’ house.

Heck…..Put them in the Governors Mansion, or in Gavin Newsoms’ campaign headquarters.

Does Charley Rangel have a house in the Caribbean he could rent to the U.S. govt?

I mean….you could go on and on with this one.
DNC headquarters? RNC headquarters? Ron Pauls’ district?

PappyD61 on September 28, 2009 at 11:11 PM

Not to mention that treating these combatants as regular criminals with civil rights is so bass akwards. When does a combatant become entitled to the rights of the country they are trying to destroy.

Let’s have Feinstine go to middle east and ask or show us how American prisoners are treated. Are they given the same civil rights of the country that captured them? No. they are considered expendable and after any information is gathered they are executed because it costs to keep a prisoner alive.

Focus. The U.S. is the only country in the world that fights by a set of rules called the Geneva Convention. Our enemies do not even know, signed, or give a rip of the contents of the Geneva Convention. War is ugly but simple. Beat the enemy into submission.

MSGTAS on September 29, 2009 at 10:42 AM

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