Did the Olympics Committee force Obama to go to Copenhagen?
posted at 4:15 pm on September 28, 2009 by Allahpundit
Geraghty’s spot on. There’s no way The One would risk his political capital on a personal appeal in Denmark unless he’d been assured that Chicago will get the games if he makes a cameo. It’s a done deal; the only question is who approached whom. I think the IOC probably forced his hand: Given the terrible optics of the trip plus the fact that, as Geraghty reminds us, Obama said as recently as two weeks ago that he wouldn’t go himself, he had every incentive to avoid this — unless the IOC sweetened the pot by promising him the games if he showed up. Once they did that, he had no choice. Imagine the public’s reaction if he stayed home and the games were awarded to another country, and then someone at the IOC leaked the fact that he’d been told that Chicago would have been the pick if he’d taken a day out of his schedule for a little gladhanding in Denmark. Everyone who’s dumping on him right now for going would be dumping on him then for not going, and he surely knows it. I can just picture the angry blog posts estimating the number of jobs and total revenue lost to Chicago because its favorite son wouldn’t get on a plane. The IOC made him an offer he couldn’t refuse. Well played, chumps!
Via Breitbart, here’s Gibbs doing his best to explain the reason for the trip without explaining the real reason for the trip. Smart exit question from smart lefty Michael Roston: Given the metaphysical certainty that there’ll be massive corruption involved in Chicago’s handling of the games and the equal certainty that righty blogs like this one will rub The One’s face in it, how bright was it of him to get involved in this in the first place?
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How did we end up in this position of never being told the truth? Every Government press conference or release. Every speech. All are bald face lies. We know it and they know we know it. It’s some sick kabuki.
ronsfi on September 28, 2009 at 4:41 PM
Maybe it is part of his coronation which we will all call the Celebration of Celebrations to end all Celebrations. Think of it, fake Greek columns and children singing (wait, this sounds familiar). The 7 rings in the Olympic would just have another added to commemorate his 8th year in office. Maybe he’ll win the gold in Golf and Date-Nighting. Remember, all must sing this as he leaves Chi-town (the center of the known universe).
Jed_Eckert on September 28, 2009 at 4:41 PM
So, if he wins this, will he call it a victory?
Maquis on September 28, 2009 at 4:41 PM
I don’t think the average American gives a rat’s ass.
Terrye on September 28, 2009 at 4:42 PM
Wait until Allah blames Glenn Beck for this one.
mobydutch on September 28, 2009 at 4:42 PM
In Munch 12 Jews were killed, which for Obama is a big plus.
angryed on September 28, 2009 at 4:42 PM
Even more reason to wish I didn’t live in Illinois.
Griz on September 28, 2009 at 4:43 PM
Mascot for the Chicago Olympics?
How about a fat, bloated, oinking pig, crapping all over the American flag.
We can name him “Barry”.
NoDonkey on September 28, 2009 at 4:43 PM
Yes … your logic is compelling. The guy who beat the Clinton machine, who rose from Illinois state senate backbencher to the presidency in five years, has no sense of political calculation whatsoever.
Must be nice to live in a world where your opponents are never, ever right.
Allahpundit on September 28, 2009 at 4:43 PM
I wonder how many tourists will get murdered in the Windy City during the Olympics. I can not imagine Chicago pulling this off without a huge disaster or a lot of federal money.
Terrye on September 28, 2009 at 4:44 PM
Hmmm:
Kowtow today,
Some extra foreign good will down the toilet tomorrow,
Corruption scandals outed by citizen-journalist for the next six years.
What’s not to like?
Dusty on September 28, 2009 at 4:44 PM
I wonder if others share my feelings. I genuinely don’t want the games in the US again so soon. It kills the magic. The Atlanta games were completely forgettable. The only thing I remember were the pipe-bombs. And it’s going to be only eight years after Beijing. There’s no way we can top the Chinese since, for us, the games will be a commercial enterprise and not a national-pride-restoration-orgasmofest. Let Brazil have it. The whole point of the Olympics that it is an occasion for humanity to safely indulge in jingoism. The games are just not quite right without the nationalism-driven grandiose.
Geraghty’s analysis is probably correct. On the other hand, I still remember the moment when they pulled the card out of the envelope and it reads Pologne/Ukraine.
year_of_the_dingo on September 28, 2009 at 4:44 PM
Well, the old saying “follow the money” and the Olympics is big, big, money. They literally take in billions every two years, and between have the qualifying events that you have to participate in.
Their is hardly a bigger, more influential, arrogant group then the IOC.
right2bright on September 28, 2009 at 4:45 PM
Two questions: How much tax money will be spent on the games if we get them? And, why do we want them again?
BKeyser on September 28, 2009 at 4:45 PM
International Sports Carnival: Imperative to human existence. Let’s fly over be hands on.
Afghanistan War: We need a time out.
ObamaCare: We need a time out.
Cap & Trade: We need a time out.
Iranian Missile tests: We need a time out.
Zeyala: We need a time out.
portlandon on September 28, 2009 at 4:45 PM
I don’t think Obama is without guile. I would not call him stupid, but I think this may have more to do with political payback for certain highly placed Illinois Democrats, than it has to do with public opinion.
I just don’t think most Americans really care all that much who gets the Olympics.
Terrye on September 28, 2009 at 4:46 PM
This is not a done deal. The only reason B.O. would have gone was if his One True Master, namely Mayor Richard “Shortshanks” Daley of Chicago, ordered him there.
Being the good little Chicago Democrat Machine Politician that he is, B.O. would be a fool not to listen to what Daley says, since it is Daley who controls the Machine.
pilamaye on September 28, 2009 at 4:47 PM
I wonder if he’ll have to do more than gladhand. I think he’ll strike a deal where he’ll donate his Greek columns to get the Olympics for Chicago.
InCali on September 28, 2009 at 4:47 PM
Running Mozilla here – not a pretty picture folks!
This puppy stutters and stalls more often than Barry in a media scrum.
Ogabe on September 28, 2009 at 4:48 PM
Obama still takes orders from Richard M. Daley. All Illinois politicians do.
Mr. D on September 28, 2009 at 4:48 PM
Haven’t you heard, he isn’t interested in victory.
thomasaur on September 28, 2009 at 4:49 PM
I love the Olympics, I went to the Olympics in China, I went to the ones in Los Angeles, and I say the Los Angeles was the best, the greatest, and the most profitable.
Chicago will be a disaster, but I am going if we win it.
Until you are at an Olympic event, you don’t understand…
right2bright on September 28, 2009 at 4:49 PM
My goodness, how far and how fast our country has fallen.
Now-a-days, the president has to go beg the Olympic Committee for the right to spend billions on a corruption boondoggle.
MTF on September 28, 2009 at 4:49 PM
Phone it in, president ‘present’.
HornetSting on September 28, 2009 at 4:49 PM
Can we settle for wrong but really really smart?
Cindy Munford on September 28, 2009 at 4:49 PM
Maybe he does, but it never benefits anyone other than himself and party insiders.
He’s accomplished nothing of value for the American people and this is just the same sort of window dressing, dog and pony show he excels at, but it will do nothing to alleviate the problems he’s already saddled this country with.
NoDonkey on September 28, 2009 at 4:49 PM
1) What’s left of the Clinton machine, never had it’s heart in Hillary. It is and always was, Bill’s machine.
It was also Bill’s political instincts that made the machine run. As Hillary has shown time and again, she has very little in the way of political instincts.
2) Barry won, primarily because many people wanted to vote for the first black president. As such they were willing to overlook the evidence against him. Not that the media bent over backwards to make such evidence known.
3) If Barry is such a political genius, why has everything that he has touched since winning office turned to cr@p?
MarkTheGreat on September 28, 2009 at 4:50 PM
Don’t forget the Climate Conference set for Copenhagen in December. Maybe he’s going there to hand them a platter of our tax payer dollars by passing crap-n-tax without the votes of Congress… LOL.
Key West Reader on September 28, 2009 at 4:50 PM
Ugh…I can’t handle how insufferable the media will be following the announcement. You know what’ll happen…it’ll be touted as a surprise, it’ll be said that this is a response to the “new” American attitude under Obama, etc.
I hope Rio gets it.
changer1701 on September 28, 2009 at 4:51 PM
Call me a kook, but I’m not convinced he will bring the deal in. I still think that the Euros like to mess with us and Brack will take the hit.
JAW on September 28, 2009 at 4:51 PM
right2bright on September 28, 2009 at 4:49 PM
Probably not, but then I would rather be at a College Football game on a fall Saturday than any Olympics event anywhere in the world.
Nothing like college football.
NoDonkey on September 28, 2009 at 4:51 PM
RIO 2016
Monica on September 28, 2009 at 4:51 PM
You know the stimulus money will go towards the preparations for the Olympics. Another shovel-ready job.
mizflame98 on September 28, 2009 at 4:53 PM
Er … Shrillary beat herself. When she opened her mouth about supporting Spitzer’s licenses for illegals, that was it. But you are correct, the Chicago thug knew how to win caucuses. He never figured out how to win a primary election, though. But … yeah, that primary was proof of The Precedent’s great intellect. I remember that it impressed you.
Yep. That was odd, wasn’t it? And you think it was because of his massive intellect, huh? All planned out. Having the media supress every bit of bad news. Yep. Brilliant guy. We should have seen such a towering mind coming.
He made more mistakes in that campaign than you can count. They were papered over by the media and the final nail was the credit crises and McCain’s efforts to assure everyone that the marxist wasn’t a socialist. It was all because of the idiot messiah’s planning. Yep. And we could see how brilliant he was by his string of brilliant, mistake-free actions since he took office.
Take a look at his idiocy with Honduras and then ask yourself why he is getting away with it. Is it because he’s a smart political machine, or because of something else. Maybe you’ll start to realize the truth of the situation. Maybe.
Who? The Precedent or you? You’re correct sometimes, but The Precedent has not done a single thing correct, that I can recall. He came close with the pirate situation, but we all know that he flubbed that for a couple of days, which is why the captain wasn’t rescued when he first went overboard.
Maybe you can enlighten me on The Precedent’s greatest hits – actions, thoughts, or policies he’s championed since coming into office that are correct. I can’t think of a one.
progressoverpeace on September 28, 2009 at 4:53 PM
OlympicsGate? Bring it.
petefrt on September 28, 2009 at 4:53 PM
Lots of foreign chicks to nail?
lorien1973 on September 28, 2009 at 4:53 PM
Obama needs a ‘win’ right now to shore up his flagging popular appeal.
What better way than to ‘win’ the Olympic bid and bring a sure fire bribery and contract rigging scheme that’s sure to end up costing the state billions, to Chi-town?
DrW on September 28, 2009 at 4:54 PM
The press would act as if a tournament called the Olympics never existed.
mizflame98 on September 28, 2009 at 4:55 PM
This whole push to have the Olympics in Chi-Town in 2016 is all so Dear Leader can watch his goose stepping civilian national defense force march around the new Daley-Jarrett Olympic Stadium as he accepts the donk party’s nomination for a third term.
You laugh all you want…….You know good and well they’ve got this play in their playbook.
TheAdmiral on September 28, 2009 at 4:56 PM
Good point. I can see federal dollars being sucked into Chicago by the tens of billions.
Screw the Olympics. The only winners will be the unions who get the construction contracts and NBC (do they have a lifetime contract, heh)
Nice to see that the leader of the US is flying on our dime to stand before the IOC clowns, hat in hand. Pathetic.
I have an image of Don Corleone in my head right now, “You can act like a man!”
Obama is a national disgrace.
reaganaut on September 28, 2009 at 4:56 PM
Uggh. This is the last thing I want in my city.
HadithHarry on September 28, 2009 at 4:57 PM
You sounded like a PBS Ken Burns American Experience piece there for a minute Allah, complete with violin music, and maybe a voice over of MLK’s I have a dream quote. I liked it. Maybe narrated by Morgan Freeman?
portlandon on September 28, 2009 at 4:57 PM
You should understand…..you’re always on the wrong side of an argument, AP.
HornetSting on September 28, 2009 at 4:57 PM
I think it’s great that leaders of the world will have to bend their knee at the altar of the olympics to get one in their country in the future.
It’s great. Just great.
lorien1973 on September 28, 2009 at 4:58 PM
Will Obama, by regulation, forbid US Gold medals?
Will Obama require, by regulation, US team members to be selected according to their empathy?
Will we have an Olympic Czar?
GaltBlvnAtty on September 28, 2009 at 4:59 PM
More important to me, right now we’ve got Marines and soldiers in Afghanistan wondering what the hell is going on over here.
Their commanding general has been given but one audience with their CINC in 70 days. Not weekly, not daily, just one lousy meet.
They’ve got a CINC who would like to vote “present” on their mission when they don’t have that luxury.
In the meantime, they see their CINC at the UN doing the unspeakable, they see him on date nights in New York but not at the 9/11 service, they see their country being destroyed.
And him on a plane to Denmark to talk about games.
TXUS on September 28, 2009 at 4:59 PM
Great. We have a president who can be made to bend to the will of the IOC. I’ll sleep so much better tonight.
NoLeftTurn on September 28, 2009 at 4:59 PM
So, what kind of performance are they going to have for the opening ceremonies? A reenactment of the St. Valentines Day Massacre?
mizflame98 on September 28, 2009 at 4:59 PM
if the Olympics go to Chicago & Chi-town gets all those new “venues” (and don’t we have to pay for all that?), will Da Bears be forced to play in a new stadium?
well, yuk on the whole thing.
kelley in virginia on September 28, 2009 at 4:59 PM
As I recall the Salt Lake Olympics were in deep doo-doo until Romney took the reins.
Del Dolemonte on September 28, 2009 at 4:59 PM
Imagine what would have happened had George Bush got the Olympics for Dallas or Houston.
Every minute detail would have been pounced on by the “media”.
If Obama gets Chicago the Olympics, no matter how much corrupt featherbedding occurs, no matter how many overruns go on, no matter how many taxpayer dollars are wasted, there won’t be a peep uttered about it.
NoDonkey on September 28, 2009 at 5:00 PM
I’m sure being in Chicago, it’ll be the most transparent and fiscally responsible Olympics evah!
CP on September 28, 2009 at 5:01 PM
The Olympics should be held in Athens every frickin year. Have the world community pitch in to build the most awesomely awesome stadium ever. Why do we have to go through this sham voting process every four years?
Or, how about if we do this …..
Put the U.N. building up for sale. Use the money to build an Olympic complex in Greece. Throw all of the bums out who have been gathering dust at the U.N. for the past sixty years.
fogw on September 28, 2009 at 5:01 PM
He turned it around, but if memory serves, over the long term the Olympics are always losers. Once the games are gone, you still have facilities that need to be maintained. Aren’t olympics actually a negative economic impact?
lorien1973 on September 28, 2009 at 5:01 PM
and back to the issue in Afghanistan, the longer bambi waits to decide, the bigger the clusterfark our American soldiers have there because of the coming winter.
but the Olympics are so very impt.
kelley in virginia on September 28, 2009 at 5:01 PM
Chicago Mascot Chalkie 2016
aquaviva on September 28, 2009 at 5:01 PM
Obama is just delusional enough to believe that a last-minute grand gesture by him will do the trick. And he needs a win, any win, very badly. If he wasn’t a Donk, he would be branded in the MSM as a total loser already.
I hope the IOC tells him to go pound sand. We don’t need this kind of unserious behavior reinforced. I have heard that Presidents often grow into the job, but this dude is showing no signs of maturation whatsoever.
drunyan8315 on September 28, 2009 at 5:02 PM
Showcase? Has this guy been to Chicago lately?
Chicago is an embarrassment to America in every way imaginable.. We should be using every resource we have to keep this town away from the scrutiny of the rest of the world…
PaulMorphy on September 28, 2009 at 5:02 PM
Obama couldn’t resist the opportunity to jet off to Europe in an attempt to recreate his “Sally Field moment.”
hillbillyjim on September 28, 2009 at 5:03 PM
i agree with the post though. he wouldnt’ have gone over there unless he knew it were a done deal.
kelley in virginia on September 28, 2009 at 5:04 PM
I’m sure that, in part, you’re right.
On the other hand, there are those of us that don’t like the fact that a silly sports committee just demanded that the leader of our country show up and kowtow to them in order to win their votes.
I cannot say with 100% certainty what I would have done had he said no instead, but, I can’t imagine myself being upset at all if his reaction had been to get on T.V. and make the following statement, “I received a phone call from the IOC informing me that Chicago would not receive the Olympics unless I made appeared in Copenhagen to do a grip and grin with the various members of the IOC. As much as I would love to have seen the Olympics in my hometown of Chicago in 2016, I am not in the habit of submitting the office of the Presidency to extortion. We hope that future IOC decisions will be made based upon which host city is best suited for that particular Olympics instead of based upon which leaders can be extorted. For now, we look forward to competing for gold in the beautiful city of Rio.”
JadeNYU on September 28, 2009 at 5:04 PM
hey, i just went to Chicago last year. the Michigan Ave area is very nice.
opening ceremonies in Oprah’s studio…..
kelley in virginia on September 28, 2009 at 5:05 PM
oh JadeNYU, you dreamer, you.
kelley in virginia on September 28, 2009 at 5:06 PM
Speak for yourself, dude. You’re rather quick to take offense when anyone challenges your opinion.
Forgotten your history? If you want the olympic games, you have to bribe the IOC? Don’t you remember?
So the real question is; how much did Obama pay to get the games in Chicago?
Skandia Recluse on September 28, 2009 at 5:06 PM
Now we know where the rest of the porkulus money is headed. To shovel ready projects in Chicago.
booter on September 28, 2009 at 5:07 PM
OT: If you missed Beck’s Friday show because of TOTUS, it’s being re-run now.
petefrt on September 28, 2009 at 5:07 PM
I betcha Barry & Michelle use this visit as an excuse to highlight its distinction as “the most environmentally friendly city in the world” where climate change policies are de rigeur, where 1/3 of the population ride bicycles to work, where its Middelgrunden wind farm produces a whopping 3% of Copenhagen’s power, and so forth.
The fact that it’s one of the most expensive cities in the world will not be mentioned.
Buy Danish on September 28, 2009 at 5:08 PM
I really hope this is all wrong.
I really do hope the games are NOT awarded to Chicago.
HOPE is what Obama has given me. A big ol’ boatload of HOPE.
bridgetown on September 28, 2009 at 5:08 PM
This makes sense, therefore, fuggedaboudit.
There’s absolutely zero chance of the thieves at the IOC killing their golden goose, or at the UN either, for that matter.
hillbillyjim on September 28, 2009 at 5:09 PM
Which will be higher at the end of the Olympics: Total number of gold medals awarded to the underage, hermaphrodite, Chinese athletes OR the total number of homicides within the city limits?
Bishop on September 28, 2009 at 5:10 PM
Okay guys, I was wrong, Gov. Romney came in a rescued the Salt Lake City Olympics from diaster but it was Peter Ueberroth who chaired the first privately funded Olympics (L.A. 1984) and they made money.
Cindy Munford on September 28, 2009 at 5:11 PM
I don’t care about the olympics being here. It’s going to COST us more in enhanced security than it’s worth, and it could very well be that Chicago ends up getting hit anyway.
I don’t have a good feeling about this at all.
So, when Chicago is hit with an attack during the olympics, not only will zero not get the blame, he likely won’t do a damn thing about it.
THANKS AGAIN LIBS!
Spiritk9 on September 28, 2009 at 5:11 PM
So the real question is; how much did Obama pay to get the games in Chicago?
Skandia Recluse on September 28, 2009 at 5:06 PM
I’m sure it only cost a missle shield or two,
DrAllecon on September 28, 2009 at 5:11 PM
I’ve always appreciated the Olympics and hosting is a real priveledge if you can afford it. For some reason, I can almost understand the first lady being involved in this type of thing. Having Oprah as an official delegate gives me the shakes and Obama going is just piling on. The decision should be based on a variety of tangible factors and not a popularity contest or whatever. I can only imagine how steamed and anti-Obama Rio will be if they lose to Chicago. DISCLAIMER: that last sentence was not meant to be racist or offensive to anyone.
mike_NC9 on September 28, 2009 at 5:11 PM
For you to nail they would have to be very “foreign”…
right2bright on September 28, 2009 at 5:11 PM
I looked that up too. Not coincidentally, 1984 olympics is the only one to not have had a negative economic impact on the host city.
lorien1973 on September 28, 2009 at 5:12 PM
I think it depends on whether the facilities they put in have long term usefullness. I can’t say since Virginia Beach or North Florida are due to get their chance until 2050.
Cindy Munford on September 28, 2009 at 5:14 PM
I’m with allah on this. Obama is one thing, and that’s conceited and calculating. He’s certainly not dumb. I just don’t think he is the one holding the calculator.
ted c on September 28, 2009 at 5:14 PM
Actually during the LA Olympics crime dropped significantly…I figure with about 10-15 murders a week in Chicago, anything less then 50 deaths during the Olympics is a great deal.
right2bright on September 28, 2009 at 5:14 PM
It made over 200 million, and it was boycotted by the soviet states…if they had shown up, probably another 50 -75 million.
It can be done, but Peter U. was a genius…actually Romney did well bailing out a 400 million mess and bad publicity. His corporate cronies came in handy…the same ones that he “consulted” with for the next couple of decades, and some were even “lucky” enough to participate and make a few million on the big dig, well, maybe more then a few million.
right2bright on September 28, 2009 at 5:18 PM
Allah, that’s irrelevant. The Olympics aren’t until 2016. By the time the corruption rears its ugly head, Obama will either have won reelection in 2012 in which case he’s a lame duck and can’t be hurt politically by the inevitable scandals, or he will have lost in 2012 and be a private citizen unfazed by the scandals.
radjah shelduck on September 28, 2009 at 5:19 PM
Why are you all acting like we don’t want the Olympics in the US?
If our president was pushed around and forced to grovel, yeah… that’s embarrassing. But it’s arguably more embarrassing to hear people on the right actually making convoluted arguments that the US shouldn’t have the games here. WTF, people?
DaveS on September 28, 2009 at 5:19 PM
If he had taken the day and the cost of flying two 747s and several other jets across the Atlantic.
Dang those Danes. He was probably planning to study up on world problems that day. Now, if he fails to stop a nuclear war in a week or two, we can thank the IOC.
applebutter on September 28, 2009 at 5:20 PM
Or where they’re always just “crazy” and “nutty” and “apocalyptic”. Makes it easy.
I_C on September 28, 2009 at 5:21 PM
Take the most awesome college game…Oklahoma/Texas, or USC/Notre Dame, etc. and multiply it by 10, and you get just an inkling of what an Olympic event is like.
Even a badminton game is more intense…their is nothing comparable…however, I have never been to a World Soccer Cup, that I hear is off the charts.
right2bright on September 28, 2009 at 5:21 PM
Priorities
RightWinged on September 28, 2009 at 5:23 PM
ugh, the imagry of Chi-Town scenery as opposed to Copa’s Beach girlies.
Alden Pyle on September 28, 2009 at 5:23 PM
At the end of day
It’s about the Benjamins.
Money in the Bank.
A successful bid
Means Millions in Graft and Bribes.
‘Bam will get his share.
‘Bam took a pay cut
Walking away from Wall Street.
He’ll make it back now…
Haiku Guy on September 28, 2009 at 5:24 PM
I am not saying they should not be here, I am just saying most Americans do not give a damn. They have other concerns and whether or not Chicago gets the Olympics is just not real high on most people’s list of things to care about.
Terrye on September 28, 2009 at 5:28 PM
http://www.chicagoansforrio.com/
unclesmrgol on September 28, 2009 at 5:29 PM
Too busy with Afganistan to bother to follow the APORN story, too busy with the Olympics to follow up on Afganistan.
mmm mmm mmm
Barking Insane Obama!
starboardhelm on September 28, 2009 at 5:30 PM
And… this is Chicago we are talking about. There were about 500 murders there last year. The security and the traffic will be a nightmare.
Terrye on September 28, 2009 at 5:30 PM
Its a bit surreal isn’t it? One of the most corrupt Presidents in US history getting involved on behalf of one of the most corrupt cites and states in the United States, in an effort to corrupt the outcome of the selection processes of the host city of one international sports most notoriously corrupt events being made by one of the most corrupt international body’s around. I mean Obama’s trip to Copenhagen should be billed as the World Cup of Political Corruption.
Hellrider on September 28, 2009 at 5:30 PM
So it’s a good idea to have leaders of free world go begging to the IOC to get the games hosted in their country?
lorien1973 on September 28, 2009 at 5:31 PM
They’re adding a special event if Chicago gets the Olympics: The Avoid a Mugging Obstacle Course.
kingsjester on September 28, 2009 at 5:32 PM
So he has time to fly over there to ensure Chicago gets to revel in more government dollars and commit fraud on a massive scale with the Olympics, yet he doesn’t have time to review Gen McChrystal’s request for more troops so that we can win a war… Priorities.
Kevin71 on September 28, 2009 at 5:32 PM
FIFY
UNREPENTANT CONSERVATIVE CAPITOLIST on September 28, 2009 at 5:33 PM
Why is Barry going to Copenhagen? One word…..Drudge!
Firmworm on September 28, 2009 at 5:33 PM
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