Swiss to extradite Polanski?

posted at 10:07 am on September 27, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

More than 30 years after his arrest and trial for statutory rape and sodomy of a 13-year-old girl, director Roman Polanski may have to face the music for his crime and his flight.  Switzerland arrested Polanski on his way to receive an award from the Zurich Film Festival, surprising him and his French collaborators, who have kept Polanski from getting extradited to the US for decades.  They plan to send Polanski back to Los Angeles as soon as the US completes its extradition request (via HA commenter Mr. Joe):

Director Roman Polanski was arrested by Swiss police for possible extradition to the United States for having sex in 1977 with a 13-year-old girl, authorities said Sunday.

Polanski was flying in to receive an honorary award at the Zurich Film Festival when he was apprehended Saturday at the airport, the Swiss Justice Ministry said in a statement. It said U.S. authorities have sought the arrest of the 76-year-old around the world since 2005.

“There was a valid arrest request and we knew when he was coming,” ministry spokesman Guido Balmer told The Associated Press. “That’s why he was taken into custody.” …

The Swiss statement said Polanski was officially in “provisional detention for extradition,” but added that he would not be transferred to U.S. authorities until all proceedings are completed. Polanski can contest his detention and any extradition decision in the Swiss courts, it said.

It’s not clear from the AP report whether the Swiss acted on an old outstanding arrest warrant, or whether the US had renewed efforts to arrest Polanski.  If it’s the former, then Barack Obama has a dilemma on his hands.  He gets a lot of support from the Hollywood community, who regularly lionize Polanski as a misunderstood genius.  They have long demanded that the US drop its charges against Polanski and allow him to return freely into the bosom of Hollywood.  Will he demand extradition or have to publicly admit he’s not interested in pursuing Polanski?

If the US renewed the warrant, it seems that Obama has already made the decision — and it would be the right decision, regardless of what the American film industry says.  As Bill Wyman wrote last February in Salon,  Hollywood has tried to sell the statutory rape as some sort of misunderstood love story.  They tried again last year in the documentary Roman Polanski: Wanted and Desired. The reality is that Polanski drugged, raped, and sodomized a 13-year-old girl:

Bad art is supposed to be harmless, but the 2008 film “Roman Polanski: Wanted and Desired,” about the notorious child-sex case against the fugitive director, has become an absolute menace. For months, lawyers for the filmmaker have been maneuvering to get the Los Angeles courts to dismiss Polanski’s 1978 conviction, based on supposed judicial misconduct uncovered in the documentary. On Tuesday, Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Peter Espinoza ruled that if Polanski, who fled on the eve of his sentencing, in March 1978, wanted to challenge his conviction, he could — by coming back and turning himself in. …

Polanski deserves to have any potential legal folderol investigated, of course. But the fact that Espinoza had to state the obvious is testimony to the ways in which the documentary, and much of the media coverage the director has received in recent months, are bizarrely skewed. The film, which has inexplicably gotten all sorts of praise, whitewashes what Polanski did in blatant and subtle fashion — and recent coverage of the case, in the Los Angeles Times, the New York Times and elsewhere, has in turn accepted the film’s contentions at face value.

For now, the Los Angeles judge has injected a dose of reality into the debate. But “Wanted and Desired” seems to have inserted into the public consciousness the idea that Polanski, an irrepressible European, had been naughty during a colorful time, and that he has been toyed with by a monstrous legal system. Creepy and disturbing, the film does show us a few of the director’s moral warts. But it leaves the strong impression that Polanski was a wronged man, jerked around by a cartoony, publicity-hungry judge to the point where fleeing was his only viable option. …

Now, that’s one way to portray those two men — and one that Polanski’s current lawyers would prefer. But there’s another way, too: You could show one as a child-sex predator who drugged a 13-year-old girl with quaaludes and champagne; lured her to pose for naked photographs; ignoring her protests, had sex with her; and then anally raped her. …

It’s a drag to include a scene of anal rape of a 13-year-old in your moody documentary about such a Byronic figure, but it’s also fairly relevant.

The victim would now prefer to see the charges dropped, but that doesn’t account for 32 years of fleeing justice.  Polanski still needs to be held accountable for his crimes, at the very least by getting hauled back to an American court to face the process of justice.  He’s no hero; he’s a rapist, and it’s about time that someone make it clear that being a fabulous Hollywood director does not give one a license to commit violent crimes.


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” In 2001, …Crimen Sollicitationis was enforced for 20 years by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger before he became the Pope.”

Come back when you learn to count. Also when you learn the difference in authority between a Vatican bureaucrat and a diocesan bishop. And between a papal edict of 1962 dealing with priests bartering absolution for sex, and a 2001 recommendation.

Re Polanski
California refused parole to a one-legged woman dying of brain cancer because she stabbed a pregnant woman for refusing to stop begging for her life. We would have executed Manson but the Supreme Court told us in 1976 the method of punishment used on murders since Europeans came here in 1603 was banned in 1787…when they woke up somehow Manson could not be put back on Death Row. We’ve done our best to punish everybody involved in Tate’s murder, I don’t see how that gives Polanski freedom to screw other people’s little girls.

Chris_Balsz on September 27, 2009 at 9:59 PM

Davey why can you not make it without government?

Pssst that is not a yes no question(Fu+cking laughable you are) Must be that great Canadian education.

CWforFreedom on September 27, 2009 at 9:56 PM
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Sorry, but your rambling whining about my opinions regarding how much government is required for a well functioning and just society is a tangent. I’m afraid I cannot comment any further: you’ve posted half a dozen posts that are entirely irrelevant to the current topic of a child rapist’s extradition, so I would encourage you to get on topic or go get a blog or something.

Dave Rywall on September 27, 2009 at 10:00 PM

Dave Rywall on September 27, 2009 at 10:00 PM

You are an expert at avoidance. Why so angry? Too friggin funny loser.

CWforFreedom on September 27, 2009 at 10:02 PM

Dave Rywall on September 27, 2009 at 10:00 PM

Keep your ridiculous ad-hominem assertions straight, there, boyo.

I’m accused of whining.
CW is supposed to be crying.

massrighty on September 27, 2009 at 10:02 PM

Davey I was asking about you little man. Not society. Nice spin though. You are an expert. There is no way you are married that is quite evident. Such a sad little boy/man whatever you are.

CWforFreedom on September 27, 2009 at 10:04 PM

Hey DAVE,
Make no mistake…You’re not half the man you think you are or could hold your own against the men you defile…
at best…to save what little you have left…
you should just walk away.

jerrytbg on September 27, 2009 at 10:06 PM

Yes there are too many scummy priests. There are too many scummy people in many occupations. – CWforFreedom

I think there’s an element that you’re not factoring in, CWforFreedom. Other occupations do not demand ignoring and repressing the normal sexual drive, romantic love and the natural need for human companionship. “It is not good for the man to be alone”, as someone once wrote. That’s not meant at all as a slam on Catholic priests, I’m just citing an apple vs. oranges point that’s missing in your equation.

whatcat on September 27, 2009 at 10:08 PM

whatcat

so why are such relationships very common among school teachers? they are not restricted from marrying.

I think you are missing the real point of what has happened. Gay men gravitated to the priesthood and the Church failed children and their parishioners in how they handled the scumbags who did the crimes.

CWforFreedom on September 27, 2009 at 10:13 PM

More on the Polanski court case.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/polanskicover1.html

Prepare to be sickened

CWforFreedom on September 27, 2009 at 10:14 PM

Hey, I doubt I agree with Rywall on many topics that come on Hot Air, but nowhere did he defend Polanski. He has been pretty damn straightforward about being anti-rape. There’s not exactly a shortage of things to go after him about. Why make any up? Especially that vile.

If it helps, I’ll Godwin it: Even Hitler jailed rapists.

exception on September 27, 2009 at 10:22 PM

exception on September 27, 2009 at 10:22 PM

We were going after him on his lack of proofs for some blatantly incorrect statements.

He went ad-hominem, and accused us of ‘whining’ and ‘crying,’ rather than answer.

massrighty on September 27, 2009 at 10:24 PM

massrighty on September 27, 2009 at 10:24 PM

I know. Some earlier were saying other things.

exception on September 27, 2009 at 10:30 PM

exception on September 27, 2009 at 10:30 PM

Sorry – I’m still in ‘full joust’ mode – I wrote w/o thinking.

massrighty on September 27, 2009 at 10:31 PM

massrighty on September 27, 2009 at 10:31 PM

No worries.

exception on September 27, 2009 at 10:38 PM

exception on September 27, 2009 at 10:30 PM
Sorry – I’m still in ‘full joust’ mode – I wrote w/o thinking.

massrighty on September 27, 2009 at 10:31 PM

Not by my count…you were right there.

jerrytbg on September 27, 2009 at 10:38 PM

jerrytbg on September 27, 2009 at 10:38 PM

Thanks for the kind words.

massrighty on September 27, 2009 at 10:40 PM

exception on September 27, 2009 at 10:30 Pm
massrighty on September 27, 2009 at 10:31 PM

DAVE deserved everything he got and more…

jerrytbg on September 27, 2009 at 10:41 PM

kudos…

jerrytbg on September 27, 2009 at 10:42 PM

jerrytbg on September 27, 2009 at 10:41 PM

On that, all rational posters can agree!

**raises glass**

massrighty on September 27, 2009 at 10:43 PM

here here…

jerrytbg on September 27, 2009 at 10:47 PM

1 Are there or are there not convictions of Roman Catholic priests for sexual assault.[?]

2 Have there or have there not been massive settlements of lawsuits against the church filed by victims of sexual assault at the hands of priests.[?] If these accusations are unfounded, then why pay up and financially cripple a parish.[?]

Dave Rywall on September 27, 2009 at 9:43 PM

Indeed on all 3 and may the guilty all rot in hell, along with Polanski, as you rightly have stated (in jail for him, first). There is plenty of evidence, aside from the BBC. Facts often get in the way of all sides of the political spectrum.

While we disagree politically/phylosophically, entirely, you are right on this topic, even though it is a sidekick to the thread, and, yes, you didn’t start it.

However, you can disarm your opponents so much more elegantly if you don’t call them “idiots”, and if you stay on topic, without berating them.

Schadenfreude on September 27, 2009 at 10:55 PM

Poland is asking for clemency.

Yet Poland just passed this law on friday.

disillusioned on September 27, 2009 at 10:56 PM

Schadenfreude on September 27, 2009 at 10:55 PM

He must be very young.

Johan Klaus on September 27, 2009 at 10:58 PM

whatcat

so why are such relationships very common among school teachers? they are not restricted from marrying.

You mean teachers who become sexually involved with students, I take it? It happens, but I’m not aware of any study or statistics which show that’s “very common”.

I think you are missing the real point of what has happened. Gay men gravitated to the priesthood and the Church failed children and their parishioners in how they handled the scumbags who did the crimes. – CWforFreedom

Well, I’d see it differently, CW, so we’ll probably have to go with the “agree to disagree” thing on this.

I think it’s fair to say that some homosexual men did indeed get into the priesthood, but I wouldn’t lay the problems soley on their doorstep.

In my view telling any normal, heterosexual man not to think about sex is a riskier proposition than telling someone not to think about green elephants. It’s unnatural for humans – male and female – not to think about sex, love and companionship. Compound that with making it all “forbidden fruit” in a life of required repression and it’s an unreasonable expectation, to my thinking, at least.

Think of the men who end up in prison who were repulsed by homosexuality on the outside but who eventually becomed engaged in same sex activities on the inside. The natural, normal urge for sex obviously cannot be fulfilled but the need for an outlet still exists.

We are all prone to the same natural, human needs and those needs do not disappear when one dons clerical garb.

whatcat on September 27, 2009 at 11:00 PM

Schadenfreude on September 27, 2009 at 10:55 PM

And that would promote a reasoned and measured discussion…agreed….

jerrytbg on September 27, 2009 at 11:03 PM

If it helps, I’ll Godwin it: Even Hitler jailed rapists.

exception on September 27, 2009 at 10:22 PM

But then he let them out: Oskar Dirlewanger

Luckily, he was one of the few war criminals who really received the justice he deserved, i.e., he was beaten and tortured to death.

Blake on September 27, 2009 at 11:15 PM

The reality is that Polanski drugged, raped, and sodomized a 13-year-old girl:

Ship him off to Gitmo.
Maybe the Jihadis will have
some use for him and his parts?

“Let’s Roll”

On Watch on September 27, 2009 at 11:17 PM

Yet Poland just passed this law on friday.

disillusioned on September 27, 2009 at 10:56 PM

It’s chemical castration. We use it here but it is not mandatory. It does increase the likelihood of parole. How effective it is, I don’t know because they can always stop taking it and reoffend.

Blake on September 27, 2009 at 11:20 PM

I previously only knew of the case, not any of the details and after reading part of the transcripts,I have to wonder why on earth would someone allow their 13 year child to go off with a grown man alone? Not that it’s any excuse at all for Polanski’s actions, I just can’t imagine it myself, I don’t care if they knew him, or he’s famous, I would not allow a child to go have their pictures taken by some grown man, alone. There’s another part in the transcript that stuck me as well, when she mentioned he had a pill broken into 3 parts, she said that he asked her “is this a Quaalude?” and she replied “yes”. Reading all of that really leaves me wondering about her parent(s) also.

ohellno on September 27, 2009 at 11:42 PM

ACORN obviously has no problem with what he did based on the business advice they dispense. Heck they could have gotten him to write off the cost of the qualudes as a business expense!

Wine_N_Dine on September 27, 2009 at 11:54 PM

Re Polanski
California refused parole to a one-legged woman dying of brain cancer because she stabbed a pregnant woman for refusing to stop begging for her life. We would have executed Manson but the Supreme Court told us in 1976 the method of punishment used on murders since Europeans came here in 1603 was banned in 1787…when they woke up somehow Manson could not be put back on Death Row. We’ve done our best to punish everybody involved in Tate’s murder, I don’t see how that gives Polanski freedom to screw other people’s any little girls.

Chris_Balsz on September 27, 2009 at 9:59 PM

It needed corrected.

Slowburn on September 28, 2009 at 12:48 AM

Polanski-Letterman-Acorn.

the_nile on September 28, 2009 at 3:22 AM

The reality is that Polanski drugged, raped, and sodomized a 13-year-old girl:

Ship him off to Gitmo.
Maybe the Jihadis will have
some use for him and his parts?

“Let’s Roll”

On Watch on September 27, 2009 at 11:17 PM

yup…that will do well

Jeff from WI on September 28, 2009 at 5:40 AM

The Hollywood left would defend such deeds of course, they are the same Democrats that think killing babies is OK, and support an agency that helps child prostitution rings.

Jeff from WI on September 28, 2009 at 6:17 AM

whatcat on September 27, 2009 at 11:00 PM

you still did not explain why there are so many problems with teachers having relationships with students. there is nothing holding them back from having relationships with adults.

another thing these problems are known to exist with other denominations. do not be naive.

I wonder too …are UN Peace Keeping forces priests? Just wondering

CWforFreedom on September 28, 2009 at 7:14 AM

Polanski-Letterman-Acorn.

the_nile on September 28, 2009 at 3:22 AM
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What an entirely irrelevant grouping of unrelated words.

the nile-dumba$$

Now, those two go together.

Dave Rywall on September 28, 2009 at 7:19 AM

The Hollywood left would defend such deeds of course, they are the same Democrats that think killing babies is OK, and support an agency that helps child prostitution rings.

Jeff from WI on September 28, 2009 at 6:17 AM
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Giant brush, tiny brain.

Dave Rywall on September 28, 2009 at 7:20 AM

Giant brush, tiny brain.

Dave Rywall on September 28, 2009 at 7:20 AM

OH?…but it’s ok for you to use a spray can…please…

jerrytbg on September 28, 2009 at 7:25 AM

Giant brush, tiny brain.

Dave Rywall on September 28, 2009 at 7:20 AM

Excuse me, I forgot there’s at least 16 pro-life Democrats that hate ACORN.

Jeff from WI on September 28, 2009 at 7:45 AM

I think it’s awesome they’re doing this, I hope they go through with the trial and give him some time. It would show at the very least a good example to the rest of the pedophiles out there.

4shoes on September 28, 2009 at 7:56 AM

The left in the entertainment industry love their pedophiles. Look at their love of Jackson.

Jeff from WI on September 28, 2009 at 7:59 AM

Hell, why do we have to extradite? We can’t just hang him where he’s at?

Lincoln Cadillac on September 28, 2009 at 8:15 AM

Oh, make no mistake, he’s a Hollywood, lefty, democrat and therefore is above the laws that you and I must live by. Already the forces of the liberals are marshaling in defense of this pedophile rapist.

Bill Clinton is almost certainly a serial rapist, Teddy Kennedy a murderer, and Michale Jackson a child molester yet in the eye of Hollywood and the democrats they are heroes and they name buildings after them. How sick is that?

Vote Republican.

Bert Convy on September 28, 2009 at 8:21 AM

Anyone want to bet a beer the Obama administration didn’t know about this in advance and will block it?

JeffinSac on September 28, 2009 at 8:23 AM

Ha Ha. 1/3 of the nutroots is mad about this and the other 2/3 is calling them pedophile lovers.

Speedwagon82 on September 28, 2009 at 8:26 AM

Giant brush, tiny brain.

Dave Rywall on September 28, 2009 at 7:20 AM

Excuse me, I forgot there’s at least 16 pro-life Democrats that hate ACORN.

Jeff from WI on September 28, 2009 at 7:45 AM
—–
Topic: Polanski arrest

You: talk about abortion

You’re a moron.

Dave Rywall on September 28, 2009 at 8:28 AM

Oh, make no mistake, he’s a Hollywood, lefty, democrat and therefore is above the laws that you and I must live by. Already the forces of the liberals are marshaling in defense of this pedophile rapist.

Bill Clinton is almost certainly a serial rapist, Teddy Kennedy a murderer, and Michale Jackson a child molester yet in the eye of Hollywood and the democrats they are heroes and they name buildings after them. How sick is that?

Vote Republican.

Bert Convy on September 28, 2009 at 8:21 AM
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Topic: Polanski arrest

You: talk about Clinton cheating on his wife (entirely irrelevant), Ted Kennedy (entirely irrelevant)

You: “Already the forces of the liberals are marshaling in defense of this pedophile rapist.” Giant brush, tiny brain. Not sure who has the tiniest brain – you or Jeff from WI.

Dave Rywall on September 28, 2009 at 8:32 AM

I hear that Michael Jackson’s former lawyer team is looking for clients.

.

locomotivebreath1901 on September 28, 2009 at 8:34 AM

Topic: Polanski arrest

You: talk about abortion

You’re a moron.

Dave Rywall on September 28, 2009 at 8:28 AM

Considering the many things you’ve said over the last few months here, I see you’re looking for company.
No thankis.

Jeff from WI on September 28, 2009 at 8:35 AM

I saw a funny post that Polanski would spend more time in the Lincoln bedroom than a jail cell now that Eric Holder is on the case.

You know, even the Obama’s I think would have a problem having this guy down the hall from their two lovely daughters overnight.

barnone on September 28, 2009 at 8:56 AM

Well, well… Obama “School Safety Czar” admits in his book he not only didn’t report a statutory rape case, that as a teacher, by law he MUST report, between a man and a 15 year old boy, but he brags about how he counseled the boy to continue the relationship. Dear Leader, of course, puts him in charge of school safety. Who says the Democrats don’t support statutory rape of all kinds.

Jeff from WI on September 28, 2009 at 8:59 AM

He gets a lot of support from the Hollywood community, who regularly lionize Polanski as a misunderstood genius child rapist.

Fixed.

Physics Geek on September 28, 2009 at 9:03 AM

Dave Rywall on September 28, 2009 at 8:32 AM

You finally made it clear…you cannot take two thoughts, and meld them
The poster was talking about how the liberal political elite (which Hollywood it part of) protect their own, and hold them in high esteem, and connecting it to Polanski is is held in high esteem by the political elite of Hollywood…I now understand how those two thoughts would confuse you, seeing as the thread that ties the two together is “liberal”.
It must be hard to stomach when you begin to realize who your liberal heroes idolize…child rapists, murderers, womanizers, abortionists, Marxists, murdering dictators, pedophiles, I can see where the word “liberal” ties these together would make you upset.
The conservatives have our share…the difference is we purge them, you honor yours.

right2bright on September 28, 2009 at 9:09 AM

It must be hard to stomach when you begin to realize who your liberal heroes idolize…child rapists, murderers, womanizers, abortionists, Marxists, murdering dictators, pedophiles, I can see where the word “liberal” ties these together would make you upset.
right2bright on September 28, 2009 at 9:09 AM
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Giant brush, tiny mind.

Dave Rywall on September 28, 2009 at 9:17 AM

If you don’t go off-topic when Dave Rywall wants you to, you’re a racist.

Chris_Balsz on September 28, 2009 at 9:23 AM

“He’s no hero; he’s a rapist, and it’s about time that someone make it clear that being a fabulous Hollywood director does not give one a license to commit violent crimes.”

For the left, being “fabulous” excuses everything. Just ask Ted Kennedy (killer) and Billy Jeff (rapist and serial abuser of women). Of course, I’m not forgetting Obama (lying, appeasing, fascist, scum-sucking turd).

SKYFOX on September 28, 2009 at 9:24 AM

Hollyweird is part of the media that got us into the mess we are in right now — on the brink of socialism. Must be in the water, like in DC — live there and lose your senses.
Here’s another cute fact:
Hollyweird types are drumming up financial aid for Harry Reid for keeping his Senate seat. Max amounts from Paramount Pictures CEO, Dreamworks Animation CEO, Saban Entertainment Chairman, Cablevision CEO, Hollywood Media President, Steven Speielberg, Kate Capshaw, Steven Bing – producer, Mike Stolier – songwriter, Jerry Yang – Yahoo CEO, Don King – Promoter, Charles Lomax – Don King’s attorney, Lisa Kraus – writer. Many more such folks have sent lesser amounts from Hollywood to Nevada for Reid’s campaign. I’m not implying there’s anything wrong with this, but suggest if we want to get rid of Reid, we might investigate the Nevada campaign and send money to his most likely opponent. Got the info from Sharron Angle, a Republican in the Nevada legislature, but she’s is hardly mentioned in articles on the Repub primary. But I say we should counter the Hollywood elites with finances to get Harry Reid out of office!

Christian Conservative on September 28, 2009 at 9:36 AM

The French Culture Minister, Mitterand said that they should not have arrested a man of his standing, in Europe we have a dual track legal system, if your one of the elite you get away with everything, if your not you are taken to the cleaners. Take Baroness Scotland and her illegal cleaner, breaking a law she drafted, gets half the fine of a non-elite and keeps her job, even though they now find out that she lied. Yet the badly worded law which has no mechanism to check whether people are legal or not has resultin normal people being fined much more than her and losing everything.

TrueBrit on September 28, 2009 at 10:09 AM

Well, well… Obama “School Safety Czar” admits in his book he not only didn’t report a statutory rape case, that as a teacher, by law he MUST report, between a man and a 15 year old boy, but he brags about how he counseled the boy to continue the relationship. Dear Leader, of course, puts him in charge of school safety. Who says the Democrats don’t support statutory rape of all kinds.

Jeff from WI on September 28, 2009 at 8:59 AM
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Wait, so there actually are laws that say you have to report sexual assaults perpetrated by adults on minors? Does this only apply to teachers? Or other large, organized groups where adults are frequently in positions of authority over children?

Dave Rywall on September 28, 2009 at 10:20 AM

Well, well… Obama “School Safety Czar” admits in his book he not only didn’t report a statutory rape case, that as a teacher, by law he MUST report, between a man and a 15 year old boy, but he brags about how he counseled the boy to continue the relationship. Dear Leader, of course, puts him in charge of school safety. Who says the Democrats don’t support statutory rape of all kinds.

Jeff from WI on September 28, 2009 at 8:59 AM
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Wait, so there actually are laws that say you have to report sexual assaults perpetrated by adults on minors? Does this only apply to teachers? Or other large, organized groups where adults are frequently in positions of authority over children?

Dave Rywall on September 28, 2009 at 10:20 AM

I’ll type S L O W L Y so your brain can catch up. The POINT being, teachers, IN PARTICULAR, are addressed due to their interaction with children. This man, WHILE A TEACHER, not only didn’t report a case of statutory rape, but advised the boy, it was a gay relationship), to continue the relationship with the older man. This “teacher”, had bragged about this in a book he wrote, and while giving speeches to a gay group. The POINT is, Dear Leader makes this person, his School Safety Czar. The further point being, the left in Hollywood, just like the left in office, just like the left in ACORN, don’t seem to have a problem with statutory rape.

Jeff from WI on September 28, 2009 at 10:34 AM

Good on the Swiss, too bad for the Obama administration, his support comes from folks – trial lawyers, who defend child rapist like Polanski.

Dr Evil on September 28, 2009 at 10:38 AM

He’s going to fight extradition, no surprise there. However, he’d demanding bail which would be ridiculous. The fwench allowed Ira Eichorn out on bail while he fought extradition for years. Sure hope the Swiss don’t let him out because he’ll hightail it to France or Poland.

Blake on September 28, 2009 at 10:47 AM

I’ll type S L O W L Y so your brain can catch up. The POINT being, teachers, IN PARTICULAR, are addressed due to their interaction with children. This man, WHILE A TEACHER, not only didn’t report a case of statutory rape, but advised the boy, it was a gay relationship), to continue the relationship with the older man. This “teacher”, had bragged about this in a book he wrote, and while giving speeches to a gay group. The POINT is, Dear Leader makes this person, his School Safety Czar. The further point being, the left in Hollywood, just like the left in office, just like the left in ACORN, don’t seem to have a problem with statutory rape.

Jeff from WI on September 28, 2009 at 10:34 AM
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I don’t paint all Republicans with the same brush because a surprising number are involved in various sex scandals. I say hey look at these specific idiots, and I say we should take them to task for their actions, not the whole rightie political movement. Because that would be ridiculous.

You? You condemn the entire other side of the aisle. And you do this because you’re incredibly stupid.

Dave Rywall on September 28, 2009 at 10:50 AM

This will be Obama’s first pardon.. . .

After much thoughtful consideration, of course.

vinman on September 28, 2009 at 10:56 AM

Dave Rywall on September 28, 2009 at 9:17 AM

Small sentence. See, a point can be made without resorting to name calling.

Johan Klaus on September 28, 2009 at 10:57 AM

You? You condemn the entire other side of the aisle. And you do this because you’re incredibly stupid.

Dave Rywall on September 28, 2009 at 10:50 AM

Are not those that support the murder of million not worthy of condemnation?

Kjeil on September 28, 2009 at 10:57 AM

You? You condemn the entire other side of the aisle. And you do this because you’re incredibly stupid.

Dave Rywall on September 28, 2009 at 10:50 AM

Are not those that support the murder of million not worthy of condemnation?

Kjeil on September 28, 2009 at 10:57 AM
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Topic: condemnation of Polanski

You: condemnation of pro-choicers

Dave Rywall on September 28, 2009 at 11:13 AM

Dave Rywall on September 28, 2009 at 9:17 AM

Small sentence. See, a point can be made without resorting to name calling.

Johan Klaus on September 28, 2009 at 10:57 AM
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Well, it was still name calling.

Dave Rywall on September 28, 2009 at 11:13 AM

Giant brush, tiny mind.

Dave Rywall on September 28, 2009 at 9:17 AM

In other words, you don’t have an argument…it would be easier if you just responded honestly to my post and stated:
“Yes, you are right”.

right2bright on September 28, 2009 at 11:41 AM

Giant brush, tiny mind.

Dave Rywall on September 28, 2009 at 9:17 AM

In other words, you don’t have an argument…it would be easier if you just responded honestly to my post and stated:
“Yes, you are right”.

right2bright on September 28, 2009 at 11:41 AM
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See 10:50 re: your brush.

Dave Rywall on September 28, 2009 at 11:42 AM

Polanski was already convicted and is 76 years old. He will likely die before his ambulance chasers can appeal his conviction. He should have stayed in France. I think the right hand of Lucifer Obama may pardon him.

Jerricho68 on September 28, 2009 at 11:43 AM

I don’t paint all Republicans with the same brush because a surprising number are involved in various sex scandals.
Dave Rywall on September 28, 2009 at 10:50 AM

The difference is, liberals hold their sex offenders (and other offenders) in high esteem and fight to keep them legitimate. Like was so perfectly pointed out to you, but you ignored, like Kennedy, Clinton.
The conservatives purge their problems, liberals promote their “problems”.
Want a few names, along with Kennedy and Clinton? Polanski, Chaves, Che Guevara, Murtha, Geitner, Sharpton, Jackson, Jefferson…need more, we have dozens of your liberals who have been ignored, how about running a male prostitution ring, or heading up the KKK, yeah, we have more then a few names of liberals who have been promoted.

right2bright on September 28, 2009 at 11:46 AM

Small sentence. See, a point can be made without resorting to name calling.

Johan Klaus on September 28, 2009 at 10:57 AM

Then he wouldn’t have a point…that is his only argument.

right2bright on September 28, 2009 at 11:48 AM

I get it now. If a famous guy uses a 13 yr old for sex, it’s newsworthy. If unknown people solicit help from a corrupt organization connected to the president in order to import 13 yr olds from El Salvador for sex, it’s not worth covering.

Daggett on September 28, 2009 at 12:02 PM

Almost 500+ for Polanski? Its news and whatever, but we have bigger stories, such as the release of the OKC bombing where they were edited. Holder’s got baggage from the Trentadue murder from his time with Clinton. This could be a big story in the end but nobody seems to want to discuss it anywhere. Pitiful.

LevStrauss on September 28, 2009 at 12:07 PM

The difference is, liberals hold their sex offenders (and other offenders) in high esteem and fight to keep them legitimate. Like was so perfectly pointed out to you, but you ignored, like Kennedy, Clinton.
The conservatives purge their problems, liberals promote their “problems”.
Want a few names, along with Kennedy and Clinton? Polanski, Chaves, Che Guevara, Murtha, Geitner, Sharpton, Jackson, Jefferson…need more, we have dozens of your liberals who have been ignored, how about running a male prostitution ring, or heading up the KKK, yeah, we have more then a few names of liberals who have been promoted.

right2bright on September 28, 2009 at 11:46 AM
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1 I’ve made it abundantly clear that Ted Kennedy deserved to die in jail.

2 Both parties purge some problems and keep others. You need to pay more attention.

Dave Rywall on September 28, 2009 at 12:08 PM

Fellow director Woodie Allen, with a similar eye for spotting young talent, is “shocked, shocked at this blatantly obvious miscarriage of justice.”

He and his stepdaughter lovely young bride will be holding a candlelight vigil to protest this vile act by this “out of control justice system” to hold Mr Polanski accountable for his actions.

Call your nearest ACORN office for details.

Sweet_Thang on September 28, 2009 at 12:18 PM

2 Both parties purge some problems and keep others. You need to pay more attention.

Dave Rywall on September 28, 2009 at 12:08 PM

I gave you a list…where is yours?
Find me the congress person, the Republican congress person that is still in office, that has run a gay prostitution ring or it’s equivalency.
Or the tax cheater, or the tax evader (you have several liberals), or the “Reverend” who is the bigot/womanizer, the congress person who falsely accused our military men of murder, how about the Republican who was found with money in the freezer, but allowed to keep his job for over one year.
Show me what you have…I gave you a list. Do you see conservatives honoring Chavez, or Che?
Those are your people, not leftists loons, but people who ran Obama campaigns. These are mainstream dems.
How about the mayor who was caught smoking crack with a whore, and still re-elected, show me a conservative like that which was re-elected. How about head of the KKK?
In other words, show me the conservatives, who had done “wrong” but was still honored.
Show me where the dems “purge”…other wise, sit down and be quite, you are just making noise.

right2bright on September 28, 2009 at 12:20 PM

I don’t paint all Republicans with the same brush because a surprising number are involved in various sex scandals. I say hey look at these specific idiots, and I say we should take them to task for their actions, not the whole rightie political movement. Because that would be ridiculous.

You? You condemn the entire other side of the aisle. And you do this because you’re incredibly stupid.

Dave Rywall on September 28, 2009 at 10:50 AM

If you’re a Democrat, you’ve aligned yourself with a party whose platform is the destruction of children, in effect, infanticide. Trying to pick out the very few Democrats that are pro-life or and deviant acts is as effective as calling someone a “good Nazi”.

Jeff from WI on September 28, 2009 at 12:23 PM

and against deviant acts

Jeff from WI on September 28, 2009 at 12:23 PM

CWforFreedom -
you still did not explain why there are so many problems with teachers having relationships with students.

The problem is you have no facts or figures to work with, CWforFreedom. As I said before, you offered no stats or studies. Your first claim was that it was “very common”, now it’s “so many problems”. (I expect it’ll be downgraded next to what? – “the odd occurrence”?) At any rate, it’s like the left saying “Why is racism ‘very common’ among conservatives?” – it’s meaningless.

On the other hand, there are ample statistics, studies and other specific info regarding the scandals involving priests. You find a lot of specific source material-referencing in the Wikipedia entry alone, for example;
Catholic sex abuse cases.

another thing these problems are known to exist with other denominations.

Indeed. You can also check out this at wiki:
Jehovah’s Witnesses and child sex abuse

Although I’m not sure there’s much solace to be found in “well, they do it too”. That’s somewhat like a pimp who got arrested for setting up a ho-house stating “ACORN had the same problem” in his defense.

Actually, my guess is that there is probably less of this happening today than, say, in the 1950s (and the many centuries before). It used to be a great shame to be a victim of abuse, it was something that people just didn’t talk about and the abused kept it to themselves. And there were no victims advocacy groups to help the abused in earlier times.

So the good news is that victims are not as stigmatized as they used to be and organizations that became involved in such scandals have been – and are being – held to accountability & scrutiny.

whatcat on September 28, 2009 at 12:36 PM

This is so wrong. A rich, acclaimed adn well-connected member of the Hollywood set can never get a fair trial in Los Angeles!

Kasper Hauser on September 28, 2009 at 12:58 PM

right2bright on September 28, 2009 at 12:20 PM

Hoping to have a nice quiet afternoon, I see.

**tumbleweeds**

As Ann Coulter pointed out… the President gets caught having sex with an intern in the Oval Office… the result?… two REPUBLICANS resign.

It’s called accountability. Only scum would care about a scum like Polanski.

mankai on September 28, 2009 at 1:08 PM

How dare they. Don’t they know that hollywood elite types are supposed to get away with child rape, income tax evasion and most any other type of law breaking that you and I would go straight to jail for. The nerve of those bastards.

TrickyDick on September 28, 2009 at 1:42 PM

Only scum would care about a scum like Polanski.
mankai on September 28, 2009 at 1:08 PM

That says it all. Well put.

elderberry on September 28, 2009 at 2:14 PM

Arnold will pardon Polanski and then Bambi will make him the Culture Czar.

Thank heaven for little girls.

Percy_Peabody on September 28, 2009 at 2:23 PM

There is one thing to keep in mind here and that Polanski himself may have been complicit in his own “capture”.
His recent appeal with the film, etc. has been flatly rejected by a California judge unless he returns but the judge was sympathetic to his case. At worse he gets bail but can’t leave the country. When he gets back it’s highly likely that he will be allowed to vacate his plea due to judicial misconduct. At which point I think it probable that the State of California simply drops the case. The only evidence not dependent on victim testimony is the DNA evidence and that gets you statutory rape at best. I doubt the victim will testify and the defense can get her original statement thrown out since they are not being offered they chance to face the accuser. Polanski may even still cop a plea in return for a 6 month sentence in club fed.

Rocks on September 28, 2009 at 2:36 PM

2 Both parties purge some problems and keep others. You need to pay more attention.

Dave Rywall on September 28, 2009 at 12:08 PM

Show me where the dems “purge”…other wise, sit down and be quite, you are just making noise.

right2bright on September 28, 2009 at 12:20 PM

I see you couldn’t answer the challenge…I think your silence is the only thing, besides and honest answer, you could do.
So in typical liberal fashion, you go into hiding…

right2bright on September 28, 2009 at 2:56 PM

At worse he gets bail but can’t leave the country.

The Swiss can be dumb, but man, that would be DUMB.

When he gets back it’s highly likely that he will be allowed to vacate his plea due to judicial misconduct.

That would not be bright. There’s a new DA in Los Angeles who is quick to point out that the 1978 deal would be impossible today. He also talked about operating “within the framework of the plea arrangement”. If Mr. Polanski wants to start over, he’d kill a deal to turn 6 felony counts into a misdeameanor for time served, in exchange for an open trial with flight counting as evidence of guilt and a clear absence of remorse.

At which point I think it probable that the State of California simply drops the case.

Dan Cooley, DA, is not talking that way. They acted this month to let teh Swiss know where to pick him up.

The only evidence not dependent on victim testimony is the DNA evidence and that gets you statutory rape at best.

In California a jury can infer mental states and intent from circumstantial evidence.

I doubt the victim will testify and the defense can get her original statement thrown out since they are not being offered they chance to face the accuser.

It’s a narrow point but if she won’t testify when summoned, doesn’t mean he could not confront his accuser. Her contempt of the court, if she takes it that far, may be enough to meet that test.

Polanski may even still cop a plea in return for a 6 month sentence in club fed.

I think he’s certain to cop some sort of plea. But he’d serve in county jail if not state prison.

Chris_Balsz on September 28, 2009 at 3:39 PM

I thought the judge reneging on the plea bargain after the fact doesn’t exactly add up. There are questions, definitely.

He got a slap on the wrist, probably because of the sympathy over his wife’s murder, and this is a case where it was located in time and place.

I’m opposed the DOJ going back and prosecuting over GITMO stuff for the same principle. We can’t go backwards, except when it’s absolutely cut and dried.

DNA found years later which convicts someone of murder? We have long-standing laws on no statutory restraints on charging murder?

Go for it.

This situation is “eely.” He IS a fugitive. No question about that one.

At his age, given the story, I’d probably fight extradition, too.

AnninCA on September 28, 2009 at 3:47 PM

I do think he should just face the music. The woman who was in the radical group and became a fugitive and went onto become a soccer mom?

She faced it. So can he.

AnninCA on September 28, 2009 at 4:02 PM

Don’t have the time to read through 500 posts, but…

A perv, is a perv, is a perv. And I have a very dark place in my heart for them.

Just hope he gets what he deserves. A REALLY friendly cellmate with a wanker like the business end of a Louisville Slugger.

paragon27x on September 28, 2009 at 4:22 PM

I hope he gets what he deserves. But, unfortunately his punishment can’t take away the terrible acts he committed to a 13 year old girl. Hollywood is shameless to defend a creature like this.

balkanmom2 on September 28, 2009 at 4:42 PM

I could see why the victim would not want the case dredged up since she now has to listen to “enlightened” Euro-twits talk about how she asked for it etc. However, I bet a lot of Hollywood types get away with this kind of thing because they think girls won’t talk in return for a shot at stardom. All of those pervs should be put on notice that they can’t just pull strings and walk.

Reading the transcript of the grand jury at The Smoking Gun removed any chance I’d have sympathy for that old slimeball.

evergreen on September 28, 2009 at 4:56 PM

That Polanski doco was a disgrace! At the end of it I still thought he was a bad guy and did a bad thing (and I have enjoyed some of his movies).

He has to pay for his crime, talented director or not. What he did was WRONG!

Gob on September 28, 2009 at 5:15 PM

He doesn’t have to be re-tried, he was tried, and he pled guilty, he just left before the sentence.
Have him come back, give him 50 years, but take off 30 years for good behavior and let him in prison for only 20 years, because we are good people. He can get out when he is 96, but he has to wear an ankle bracelet on his wheel chair….

right2bright on September 28, 2009 at 5:29 PM

The “cast the first stone” conservatives want to push the case even though the victim wants it dropped. Let’s give this investigation priority so a prosecutor can get a high profile scalp. Other cases involving local criminals can wait. God knows our streets will be so much safer without Roman Polanski on them. My guess is that extradition to the US will be contested for years, in the meantime, France will indict Polanski for unpaid parking tickets and will successfully extradite him back to France to face justice in traffic court.

Mark30339 on September 28, 2009 at 6:10 PM

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