McChrystal report officially backburnered now

posted at 12:37 pm on September 26, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

After everyone else had heard what General Stanley McChrystal needs for his mission to succeed in Afghanistan, the Obama administration took official custody today of the report that requests a significant troop increase for the Af-Pak theater.  However, Barack Obama will not officially get to see it for a while.  The Pentagon says they will hold his request, officially, until Obama officially makes an official decision about the officially official policy he wants to officially pursue in the war:

The commander of U.S. and NATO forces in Afghanistan has submitted a request for more troops, a spokesman said Saturday, but the Pentagon will hold it while President Barack Obama decides what strategy to pursue.

General Stanley McChrystal hand delivered his long-awaited request to U.S. Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Mike Mullen and NATO’s Supreme Allied Commander Europe, Admiral James Stavridis, said spokesman Lieutenant-Colonel Tadd Sholtis.

“At the end of that meeting General McChrystal did provide a copy of the force requirements to Admiral Mullen on the U.S. side and Admiral Stavridis on the NATO side,” Sholtis said after McChrystal returned from the meeting at an air base in Germany. …

The White House says it wants to review the entire strategy for the region before considering McChrystal’s request.

“Right now the focus is on the strategic assessment itself. It (the troop request) will be shelved until such time that the White House is ready,” a defense official said in Washington.

Er … what?  Doesn’t the strategic assessment include required troop strengths?  McChrystal’s report should be a key part of those considerations, since the strategic considerations rely on having the force strength required to support the strategy.

Shelving the request makes it clear that Obama and the White House want to conduct a political review of the mission.  That’s not illegitimate; after all, part of the consideration has to be whether our allies have the political will to support us in the Af-Pak theater, as well as whether Americans have the political will to continue the fight.  If neither exists, then the entire question of strategy is moot, and the focus will shift to retreat from the theater.

The problem with this is that the Obama administration has already had plenty of time for political calculation.  They have been in office since January, and Obama campaigned for two years on the pledge to fight in Afghanistan with more resources and focus than the previous administration.  The politics of the war have not changed much, at least in terms other than polling.

Obama wanted to be Commander in Chief, and he has had that role for eight months.  The question of politics should have already been well settled by this time.  So far he has done a good job of fighting the war in Afghanistan, but this very public vacillation undermines the projection of American strength in the region and encourages a defeatist attitude.  It’s time to fish or cut bait on the politics and start seriously addressing the strategy, if we’re going to fight and win this war.


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Wasn’t the smarterest, most giftedest president and his genius administration supposed to have hit the ground running NINE MONTHS AGO?

America and the free world are going to pay a hell of a price for the temper tantrum we had at the end of 2008.

jukin on September 26, 2009 at 1:34 PM

Obama wanted to be Commander in Chief, and he has had that role for eight months. The question of politics should have already been well settled by this time. So far he has done a good job of fighting the war in Afghanistan

I believe that more American and other NATO troops have been killed in the first 8 months of Obama than were killed during any 12 months of Bush. Any 12 months of Bush! It is not just an accident either. I, for one, do not consider that to be a good job. His hand picked General has been a disaster.

MB4 on September 26, 2009 at 1:34 PM

H. Norman Schwarzkopf.

I’d love to see him walk into the Oval and smack the pantywaist right in the kisser.

Key West Reader on September 26, 2009 at 1:35 PM

Where the hell are the anti-war demonstrators?

anniekc on September 26, 2009 at 1:15 PM
I have a feeling they have been warming up at the G-20 summit. Obama is probably hoping for the same civil unrest we had in the late 60s and early 70s. Our troops should not have to worry about public opinion, their jobs are tough enough as it is.

fourdeucer on September 26, 2009 at 1:38 PM

[Horatius on September 26, 2009 at 1:22 PM]

It’s interesting you mention Mullen and Stavridis, and advice, if only that it piques an offhand question with me.

It is surprising to me what appears to be a a total silence on the subject from retired generals. I seem to remember that their advice was front and center in every news medium and they showed up on tv like a plague of locusts every time Bush had even a minor decision to make.

I wonder why. Is the LSM purposely causing a blackout now in this respect?

Dusty on September 26, 2009 at 1:38 PM

If he doesn’t read it, does it not exist? Shouldn’t it get more attention than a Politics 101 term paper gathering dust on the teacher’s desk?
“Freakin idiot” is right.

SKYFOX on September 26, 2009 at 1:39 PM

So the ‘good war’ ya know the one we were supposed to be fighting to win, it was all a lie to get elected? Oh no, tell me it isn’t so. It was just another Obama shuck and jive act …

tarpon on September 26, 2009 at 1:40 PM

Dusty on September 26, 2009 at 1:38 PM

Are their pensions secure?

OldEnglish on September 26, 2009 at 1:41 PM

Anyone who thinks we need to get out has no idea why we’re there. Fight the damn war! And screw the ROEs.

Connie on September 26, 2009 at 1:42 PM

Are their pensions secure?

[OldEnglish on September 26, 2009 at 1:41 PM]

LOL. Could they be threatened with VA medical treatment?

Dusty on September 26, 2009 at 1:43 PM

Please officially bring my brothers and sisters who still wear the uniform home until we get a CIC who knows what he is doing .

borntoraisehogs on September 26, 2009 at 1:43 PM

So far he has done a good job of fighting the war in Afghanistan

BAM CHANNELS LBJ.

Yesterday (pre March 28, 2009), President Obama presented his “comprehensive new strategy” for Afghanistan and Pakistan. It was neither new, nor a strategy. Behind all the rhetoric, he just said, I’m sending more troops and more money.

Barack Obama? I heard Lyndon Johnson. The only LBJ touch that BHO lacked was the word “escalation.”

The rhetoric was masterly. The content was drivel. He said, “The situation is increasingly perilous.” Which situation? Why? For whom? Certainly, it’s becoming more perilous for our troops as we escalate in support of the wrong policy.

- Ralph Peters (March 28, 2009)

MB4 on September 26, 2009 at 1:44 PM

Obama:

“I vote present…”

Seven Percent Solution on September 26, 2009 at 1:45 PM

The White House says it wants to review the entire strategy for the region before considering McChrystal’s request.

Maybe the President should get the eff off my TV for a while and do some actual work.

CP on September 26, 2009 at 1:45 PM

The Few. The Proud Hijabbed. The Marines.

MB4 on September 26, 2009 at 1:46 PM

I have a bad feeling about all of this.

Terrye on September 26, 2009 at 1:47 PM

muggedbyreality on September 26, 2009 at 12:58 PM

doubtless the plan is also waiting to be officially received by TOTUS

he wont ask for more money for that either until after his Obamacare is done

we cant send in more state official workers without protection

and frankly if he is even CONSIDERING wihtdrawing now that puts the lie to all his big talk of helping their economy and education system etc etc which hillary was working on

women will get acid in their faces for trying to go to school under the Taliban

all the Afghans who helped us will be abandoned to the warlords and Taliban again

I think TOTUS is out of his league and it shows. When Sarkozy is the tough guy in the room we have a problem

ginaswo on September 26, 2009 at 1:47 PM

Why would anyone trust someone who takes the complete wrong side in Honduras to do the right thing in Afghanistan? Damn curious to say the least.

MB4 on September 26, 2009 at 1:49 PM

Key West Reader on September 26, 2009 at 1:12 PM

Thanks — that was wonderful.

LASue on September 26, 2009 at 1:50 PM

Our President looks in the mirror and sees the image of the Peter Principle. mmmm….mmmm….mmmm

yoda on September 26, 2009 at 1:52 PM

Among the lessons of the Vietnam War is this: fight to win, or go home. If fighting to win is unfeasible, even if only for political reasons, we should pull out sooner rather than later (we’ll be pulling out later anyway if the war isn’t resourced adequately). No need to throw good money after bad, or to squander more soldiers’ lives.

hicsuget on September 26, 2009 at 1:58 PM

Present.

a capella on September 26, 2009 at 12:44 PM

Yes. To top it off, he’s already got political cover should he decide to send more troops. He emphasized fighting in Afghanistan over Iraq when he was campaigning. He’s just a gutless wonder who can’t make decisions.

Lightswitch on September 26, 2009 at 1:58 PM

Dereliction of duty.

Impeach the spineless bastard.

hillbillyjim on September 26, 2009 at 1:59 PM

The White House says it wants to review the entire strategy for the region before considering McChrystal’s request

Normally strategies are developed using mission needs as one of the variables.

Normally a mission needs report includes reasons why such items are being requested, and this information goes into the strategy

Even if what Obama calls strategy is analyzing what he should do politically about the war, the needs request would give him information on how to chump the generals, or to bury the bodies, or to manipulate his exit with the least political cost

In other words, Obama is a pathetic ostrich hiding his head in the sand while he tries to guess what will play best with his political pacs, hoping the generals will go away with their hard news while he wishes away the war

We truly do have a fool in the WH. A fool who can dedicate time to a talk for school kids, and appear on every news show and Letterman and Leno too for a blitz for a Health Bill that can wait until our soldiers are secured, yet runs from a crisis where Americans are dying at his whim.

Herr OberGeneral Obama of the war on bad Medical Insurance, and Coward-in-Chief Obama who hides from war reports from the real front lines

entagor on September 26, 2009 at 2:00 PM

I have a bad feeling about all of this.

Terrye on September 26, 2009 at 1:47 PM

That’s called intelligence.

MikeA on September 26, 2009 at 2:00 PM

Obama is not a risk-taker. Committing troops in the face of dissent from his own base is more terrifying to him than any nuclear weapon.

NeighborhoodCatLady on September 26, 2009 at 2:01 PM

We are so screwed…

Buckeye Babe on September 26, 2009 at 2:01 PM

WTF is it with that red light ad for Obamacare that seems to be all over H/A today? I’ know it’s ad money but maybe someone should read the definition of the role Hanna was playing at ACORN?

MikeA on September 26, 2009 at 2:06 PM

We are so screwed
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More importantly,our troops are.

ohiobabe on September 26, 2009 at 2:06 PM

Impeach the spineless bastard
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I can’t believe there would ever be enough in Washington to go against him for him to be impeached.

ohiobabe on September 26, 2009 at 2:08 PM

Vietnam Redux … Fight the war to win or bring home every single troop. There is no acceptable middle ground here.

deepdiver on September 26, 2009 at 2:09 PM

Buckeye babe, ohiobabe, are you two related?

MikeA on September 26, 2009 at 2:13 PM

Appease-y does it for weak Prez on road to a Mideast apocalypse

DID it surprise a single Post reader that Iran’s been hiding a big nuclear weapons development facility? It stunned our president when he learned about it months ago. Then he kept it secret from you.

Obama didn’t want you to know how much progress Iran had made. It’s an embarrassment.

And it raises the pressure on the White House to act — something this president’s squirming to avoid. But the Iranians have now realized we know, so they tipped it themselves.

Obama had no choice but to come clean.

Yesterday, he interrupted the G-20 summit to go public — before Mahmoud Ahmadinejad did. Flanked by French President Nicolas Sarkozy and Britain’s dead man walking, Prime Minister Gordon Brown, our president offered more uselessly vague rhetoric [Kabuki Dance] in response to proof of a major “covert Iranian enrichment facility” and its implications.

Obama’s statement amounted to, Ooooh, I’ll huff, and I’ll puff, and I’ll blow your house down . . . maybe . . . eventually . . . but not really . . . let’s talk

Iran’s faith-crazed president appears before the UN, denying the Holocaust and damning Israel. He has openly and repeatedly professed an apocalyptic religious vision that requires chaos on earth to bring about the return of the “hidden imam,” the Shia version of a messiah. He never misses an opportunity to call for Israel’s total destruction.

And Washington insists he’s joking. (Yeah, they’re belly-laughing in Tel Aviv right now.)

MB4 on September 26, 2009 at 2:17 PM

Buckeye babe, ohiobabe, are you two related?

MikeA on September 26, 2009 at 2:13 PM
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No:)

ohiobabe on September 26, 2009 at 2:18 PM

I saw this movie forty years ago.

Star20 on September 26, 2009 at 2:19 PM

We can have worse. Here’s a update on a post from in July (in a reply to coldwarrior).

My deepest worry is that both the Russian and Pakistan supply lines to Afghanistan will be cut simultaneously. Maybe as part of a new thrust into Georgia by Russia, with a push to Islamabad by the Taliban, or as coordinated by Putin and Obama.
Obama would be rid of a substantial portion of forces that may oppose a radical move in America. And our external enemies would welcome our focus on our troops in a new katabasis.
Can we rescue the entire NATO force? 
How much supplies and equipment could we loose?

This event is unlikely, but I do not have a feeling that this scenario is impossible. As Obama shows his contempt for the military, and his desire for control, this is looking like an achievable worst case.

NaCly dog on September 26, 2009 at 2:19 PM

The Armed Services committees from both houses SHOULD be scheduling a hearing with Secretary Gates and Admiral Mullen immediately. And Gates needs to be asked: do you personally support the assessments of your field commander? If he hems and haws, somebody on that panel needs to ask how many more Americans need to die in Afghanistan before he develops his own opinion on the matter. He (Gates) needs to realize his destiny is already preordained: sacrificial lamb. It’s only a question of how many soldiers and Marines will have their time in harm’s way extended–with even greater complications–due to his inactivity.

Levin may not desire such a hearing, but Skelton isn’t a shrinking violet. Call their offices and demand a hearing now!

johnny alpha on September 26, 2009 at 2:20 PM

Don,t bother me with small things like the safety of our troops.I have got more important things to do like go on the late night talk shows,talk about my wonderful health care bill and say bad things about Fox news and all the right wing racist.After all Bush started this war let him worry about it.

thmcbb on September 26, 2009 at 2:20 PM

I think Sarah Palin needs to write another FB entry and call out Teh One voting present. When she speaks it’s the only time he takes decisive action.

conservative pilgrim on September 26, 2009 at 2:22 PM

God save America.

Mason on September 26, 2009 at 2:22 PM

…POTUS dereliction of duty…leaving our service men and women hanging out in cold…utterly despicable!!!

PhreeMan on September 26, 2009 at 2:22 PM

It took Obama six months to pick out the kind of dog he wanted for his kids, so there’s that…

Obama has been hard at work systematically destroying our relationship with allies, dismantling missile defense for us and Eastern Europe, appearing on network and favored cable news programs every other day, giving nth health-care now speech and having schoolkids sing his praises.

It’s not like he hasn’t been busy. Sheesh!

catmman on September 26, 2009 at 2:23 PM

The Few. The Proud Hijabbed. The Marines.

MB4 on September 26, 2009 at 1:46 PM

You shouldn’t have crossed out “proud”. These women are doing their duty, and are learning things important to the mission. The fact that they wear a headscarf to facilitate that mission is beside the point. They are not giving up anything of moral value to themselves in this act.

A little of “When in Rome” sometimes goes a long way.

unclesmrgol on September 26, 2009 at 2:24 PM

NaCly dog on September 26, 2009 at 2:19 PM

Only the willfully blind can doubt this is at least on the table as Obama is right now trying to sort out his “strategy for the region”. If this scenerio advances his agenda for the fall of America, it not only can happen, it is likely.

MikeA on September 26, 2009 at 2:28 PM

0 is waiting for the perfect time in order that he can vote “Present”. I would rather have a President Cowboy instead of a President Pantywaist. I would rather other countries feared us than that they laughed at us.

Oleta on September 26, 2009 at 2:29 PM

NaCly dog on September 26, 2009 at 2:19 PM

This was discussed at our kitchen table last night. We think you are right. We pray you are wrong.

Key West Reader on September 26, 2009 at 2:29 PM

I can’t believe there would ever be enough in Washington to go against him for him to be impeached.

ohiobabe on September 26, 2009 at 2:08 PM

That could change if the incompetent boob keeps up with this kind of “leadership.”

hillbillyjim on September 26, 2009 at 2:34 PM

Impeachment…. but the Republicans have neither the strength, nor the cajones. We are toast.

ultracon on September 26, 2009 at 2:35 PM

Zero x 40,000 = Fail

Maquis on September 26, 2009 at 2:37 PM

That’s not illegitimate; after all, part of the consideration has to be whether our allies have the political will to support us in the Af-Pak theater, as well as whether Americans have the political will to continue the fight. If neither exists, then the entire question of strategy is moot, and the focus will shift to retreat from the theater.

NO! The “right thing to do” must be continously sold! If we try to “govern smarter, not harder” then we’re bound to fail. You can’t put government on cruise control and expect a Permanent Majority to do the arguing for you.

a.) I assume ADM Mullen and ADM Stavridis have an opinion on the strategy, for both have been in their respective positions long enough. I assume they would like to win. Perhaps they should lead, one way or the other. They are not politicians, but warriors. They either tell the President how to win the war or tell him how to minimize the damage–but they do it today. They should have thought this through by now, regardless of what the White House wants. The CJCS is the chief military advisor to the President. So advise, and then let the man in charge make his decision whenever he decides to get around to it.

Admiral Mullen has already testified to Congress that the war will not be finished by military means. We are not fighting to eradicate the Taliban, but to get them to cooperate with Kabul. In other words, we’re asking for terms. That’s the plan.

Secretary Gates continues to try to explain his concerns about expanding the footprint of the American military forces in Afghanistan. Asked to eleborate on the genesis of his concerns, Mr. Gates said: “History, and as a number of articles have pointed out, where foreign forces have had a large footprint and failed, in no small part it was because the Afghans concluded they were there for their own imperial interests and not for the interests of the Afghan people.” The defense secretary added that any decisions on the size of a force would have to take into account the Afghans’ view.
http://atwar.blogs.nytimes.com/tag/robert-gates/

You might have thought we were in Afghanistan to fight Afghanis. Apparently such black-and-white thinking no longer applies. We will fight Afghanis to the extent the Afghans permit.

We need General Tommie Franks.

PappaMac on September 26, 2009 at 1:32 PM

I go back to Patton, who burned to kill the enemy til they gave up.

Chris_Balsz on September 26, 2009 at 2:39 PM

AP 2 hrs 16 mins ago
WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama is offering Iran “a serious, meaningful dialogue” over its disputed nuclear program, while warning Tehran of grave consequences from a united global front.

That outta scare them.

Haunches on September 26, 2009 at 2:39 PM

The emperor has no clothes balls.

hillbillyjim on September 26, 2009 at 2:41 PM

The strategy is simple. Ramp up production of the Predator Drones just as we did during World War II with the Victory ships. Then deploy thousands of the drones throughout Afghanistan and Pakistan…then start blowing shit up.
The cowardly terrorist scumbags can’t hide from the drones and they can’t see them coming. (no I don’t own stock in General Atomics).

OxyCon on September 26, 2009 at 2:44 PM

OK. so I started my own blog… http://thewildernessofmirrors.wordpress.com/

Saturday Afternoon Charred Animal and Rotting Barley water thread.

doriangrey on September 26, 2009 at 2:52 PM

What else did you expect Obama to do in these kind of situations but to vote “present”?

Phil Byler on September 26, 2009 at 2:53 PM

You shouldn’t have crossed out “proud”. These women are doing their duty, and are learning things important to the mission. The fact that they wear a headscarf to facilitate that mission is beside the point. They are not giving up anything of moral value to themselves in this act.

A little of “When in Rome” sometimes goes a long way.

unclesmrgol on September 26, 2009 at 2:24 PM

The Few. The Proud Hijabbed. The Marines.

“Forcing free American women-warriors into Islam’s symbolic shackles of the female sex — the hijab — goes beyond Pentagon social engineers’ pathetic efforts to make them like us. It is cultural humiliation. And far from winning Afghan “hearts and minds,” it will only make them despise our own.”

They are clothed as Islamic chattel.

MB4 on September 26, 2009 at 2:57 PM

A pattern is emerging with Obama:
1. Take a stand on a subject.
2. Do nothing.
3. Wait for time to pass.
4. Take new stand on the same subject.
5. Do nothing.
6. Wait for time to pass.

Repeat.

albill on September 26, 2009 at 2:58 PM

I saw this movie forty years ago.

Star20 on September 26, 2009 at 2:19 PM

Don’t give away the ending. Not everyone saw it.

MB4 on September 26, 2009 at 3:01 PM

What else did you expect Obama to do in these kind of situations but to vote “present”?
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What else can he do but be the coward he is.I can’t believe I am talking about our president,oh my gosh!

ohiobabe on September 26, 2009 at 3:02 PM

From Ed’s post:

Obama wanted to be Commander in Chief, and he has had that role for eight months. The question of politics should have already been well settled by this time.

First sentence: Obama’s finally beginning to realize that being president is a lot more than passing out cotton candy to Democratic constituencies in an idiotic attempt to redistribute wealth that’s not his. He wanted the job, he understood its difficulties, and it’s time for him to stop whining about current events. He’s a disgrace.

Second sentence: Look at the morons who surround him–Axelrod, Jarret, Gibbs, Emmanuel. They may be crack aides when it comes time to campaign for a state senate seat or even a U.S. senate seat, but they and Obama’s laundry list of czars are useless when it comes to governing our country.

BuckeyeSam on September 26, 2009 at 3:03 PM

An insufferable ass is an insufferable ass, of course, of course,
And no one can talk sense to an insufferable ass, of course
And especially, of course, if the insufferable ass is the famous Barack Obama.

Go right to the source and ask the insufferable ass.
He’ll give you the answer that deceivers will endorse.
He’s always on a dissemblers course.
Talk to Barack Obama.

Barack Obama just yakkity yaks a streak and wastes your time of day
Does any sane person even believe anymore a thing he has to say?

An insufferable ass is an insufferable ass, of course, of course,
And this one’ll talk in circles til his voice is hoarse.
You never heard of a talking insufferable ass?

Well listen to this.

He is Barack Obama.

Cheshire Cat on September 26, 2009 at 3:03 PM

jukin on September 26, 2009 at 1:34 PM

He did hit the ground – face first!

jdkchem on September 26, 2009 at 3:06 PM

Impeachment…. but the Republicans have neither the strength, nor the cajones. We are toast
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Yes,but the rep. are out numbered,wouldn’t it have to come moreso from the dems.?I’m just askin’,don’t know alot about impeachment process but if clinton didn’t get impeached for the little fling w/monica how in the world could this guy?The thing w/clinton is his poll ratingsings were better so they wanted to leave it alone O’s are in the tank so it seems like it would be easier.Again,just askin’.

ohiobabe on September 26, 2009 at 3:08 PM

The Few. The Proud Hijabbed. The Marines.

MB4 on September 26, 2009 at 1:46 PM
You shouldn’t have crossed out “proud”. These women are doing their duty, and are learning things important to the mission. The fact that they wear a headscarf to facilitate that mission is beside the point. They are not giving up anything of moral value to themselves in this act.

A little of “When in Rome” sometimes goes a long way.

unclesmrgol on September 26, 2009 at 2:24 PM

Except that the hijabbed Marine women DON’T SPEAK THE LANGUAGE.

Which ruins its intelligence mission potential.

And reduces this exercise to one of weakness, and shows a craven submission to the local intolerance.

We’re there to kick ass, not kiss it.

profitsbeard on September 26, 2009 at 3:15 PM

Key West Reader on September 26, 2009 at 1:12 PM

Wow! Like night and day!!!

yoda on September 26, 2009 at 3:16 PM

OxyCon on September 26, 2009 at 2:44 PM

Bandwidth issues. Sat com links get very expensive at the top end of bandwidth. Can’t be done with today capacity. It’s cheaper to use a looser ROE.

NaCly dog on September 26, 2009 at 3:34 PM

Kipling had the O! pegged:

His vows are lightly spoken,
His faith is hard to bind,
His trust is easy boken,
He fears his fellow-kind.
The nearest mob will move him
To break the pledge he gave –
Oh, a Servant when he Reigneth
Is more than ever slave!

SDN on September 26, 2009 at 3:35 PM

eenie meenie mynee moe,catch a (can’t say that word) by his toe,if he hollers…

the Obama decision making process

inevitable on September 26, 2009 at 3:45 PM

This really makes that line about John McCain being afraid to follow Bin Laden to the cave where he lives embarrassing. Obama needs to be reminded of that quote from the DNC again. And again. And again. And again… If McFeingold gets overturned, it would be a great commercial for someone wanting to shame the One.

I.M. Shatner on September 26, 2009 at 3:45 PM

MB4 on September 26, 2009 at 1:34 PM

For once lately we agree. I still think it can very easily be pulled out but we agree on the CinC and his record.

For all those who asked, I’ve been notified that my father is stable. Thanks for the prayers.

Night all.

hawkdriver on September 26, 2009 at 3:57 PM

when do we impeach Obama?

ploome on September 26, 2009 at 4:05 PM

albill on September 26, 2009 at 2:58 PM

You forgot the eventual:

7. Suffer Defeat
8. Declare Victory

ROCnPhilly on September 26, 2009 at 4:09 PM

Bozo is completely out of his depth. His administration is imploding and swirling around the bowl.

Unfortunately, our soldiers are getting killed because he’s a complete fool and an idiot.

dogsoldier on September 26, 2009 at 4:11 PM

New Verses

Just like He said “Yes we can!”
We’ll win the war in Afghanistan!

Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm

IlikedAUH2O on September 26, 2009 at 4:12 PM

We are so screwed
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More importantly,our troops are.

ohiobabe on September 26, 2009 at 2:06 PM

Bye, bye, Western Civilization.

Connie on September 26, 2009 at 4:15 PM

Policy Reverses

New strategy? Necessary war?

I thought that everyone here knew about the expiration date stamped on everything that The One says?

IlikedAUH2O on September 26, 2009 at 4:16 PM

Let it be said by everyone at every opportunity. From this moment forward the blood of every soldier that dies in Afghanistan is on Barack Obama’s and the dimocrats hands. Once again the dimocrats are abandoning an army in the field.

Jdripper on September 26, 2009 at 4:18 PM

Barry doesn’t have it in him to win, the American people want us out, so let’s just get out. Then when the next terrorist attack happens (and you know it will) we go in there and TOTALLY obliterate the place. Perhaps by then we will have all grown some cajones and do what we should have done 7 years ago.

Alibali on September 26, 2009 at 4:22 PM

Call for the hearses

Strategic: Leaving the theatre means saving money and dodging what may be a liability in the future.

Ethical: He can’t tell the difference between human (women’s) rights over there and over here! And the “over there” is anywhere, not just Afghanistan.

The hesitation: He is waiting for OBL to be captured. Then He will declare victory and leave. As naive as He is however,He may be waiting for goodness knows what or just making sure that He can’t be sent over there.

A lot of good US soldiers and Afgans will die for nothing. At least President Bush had the courage to see a job through. That’s it! He’ll get NBC to blame President Bush.

IlikedAUH2O on September 26, 2009 at 4:32 PM

after all, part of the consideration has to be whether our allies have the political will to support us in the Af-Pak theater, as well as whether Americans have the political will to continue the fight.

This is America’s fight and America’s fight ALONE. The political will that is most important to this fight is that of America – not its allies – its allies are looking at America and thinking that it is not in this fight any more to win it – dont blame them if they start planning to leave – they dont see American leadership and rightly so.

This was all too predictable. But I wont blame the American people if they want the troops to come back from AfPak -it is a God forsaken region where pigmies stuck in the time warp of the 4th Century BC live.

The 52% of Americans who elected Obama – you should all be real proud of yourselves by now, are’nt you ?

nagee76 on September 26, 2009 at 4:35 PM

I think it is time for Obama to go to the tribal regions of Pakistan to meet with Bin Laden and Taliban leadership with no preconditions, no military escort or secret service(to show his good faith). It might help his credibility if he brought Jimmy Carter, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid along….

“Send in the Clowns……..”

sclemens on September 26, 2009 at 4:35 PM

I can not imagin what it must be like for our troops to relalize that the CIC that their lived depend on has not a fricken clue about what he is doing, and if they get killed, and all those who have died, will be for nothing.

Obama is going to cut and run as soon as he figures out how to abandon NATO and pull out. Obama has no need for the military anyway. He has chummed up with all our enemies anyway and supports their totalitorian “democracies”.
He sees the war in the same way that he sees prejudice against American Americans who comment crimes.

His minons will see the money saved from not fighting the war as a way of funding nationalize medicine. Obama is not concern so much with healthcare as he is getting it in place and right now funding is one of the biggest road blocks. As the socialist and communist have been saying since 1944, socialized medicine will be the foundation of pushing socialism into every aspect of goverment; insuring the ulitmate goal of changing out nation from capitalism to socialism. That will align us with the other socialist countries of the world, many of which he has the closeist ties have dictatorships, which he has provide ample evidence he favors as the desired form of goverment.It is perhaps the only form of goverment he understands, in theory at least.

Franklyn on September 26, 2009 at 4:45 PM

You shouldn’t have crossed out “proud”. These women are doing their duty, and are learning things important to the mission. The fact that they wear a headscarf to facilitate that mission is beside the point. They are not giving up anything of moral value to themselves in this act.

A little of “When in Rome” sometimes goes a long way.

unclesmrgol on September 26, 2009 at 2:24 PM

That’s not “when in Rome” or anything close to it. It’s pure dhimmitude.

What a joke we must be to the Afghans. We’re trying so desperately to make them like us, to “win [their] hearts & minds,” and all we’ve gotten in return is hatred and betrayal. Of course, if McChrystal or any one of the other idiots running this “war” knew a damn thing about Islam, they’d know that Westerners “winning the hearts & minds” of Muslims is an impossible long-term task.

All we’ve gotten from this “hearts and minds” policy is dead American and British soldiers.

2Brave2Bscared on September 26, 2009 at 4:45 PM

I go back to Patton, who burned to kill the enemy til they gave up.

Chris_Balsz on September 26, 2009 at 2:39 PM

Right! Forget “nation building”; they have no idea what to do with democracy; go kill the enemy!!!! kill in Afghanistan . . . kill ‘em in Pakistan . . . kill ‘em in Where-er-the-h*ll-they-hide-istan!!! Keep killin’ em ’til they can’t recruit anymore; then come home!

rebuzz on September 26, 2009 at 4:50 PM

Obama:

“I vote present…”
Seven Percent Solution on September 26, 2009 at 1:45 PM

That’s precisely what he’s doing and it’s going to cost American lives.

This incompetent has never owned a tough decision in his life and now he has to as CiC. That’s the last thing Obama wants to do and he’s trying to figure out how to take both sides of the issue. In the end we will get a mediocre, half-hearted effort that will produce disastrous results.

RadClown on September 26, 2009 at 4:51 PM

They are clothed as Islamic chattel.

MB4 on September 26, 2009 at 2:57 PM

No, if they were wearing chadors they’d be dressed as chattel.

These are Marines. They are performing their duty in a way none of the armchair wannabee soldiers castigating them here can comprehend. Sometimes you shoot, sometimes you talk, and if you can talk and avoid shooting, that’s cool. And if a headscarf helps with the talking, so be it.

If you want to cross out the word Proud to puff yourselves up in your own minds, go ahead. Those of us who recognize the mission will hold our laughter — at you.

unclesmrgol on September 26, 2009 at 4:53 PM

Our son just got back to the states after being medevacced out of Afghanistan a few weeks ago. His biggest problem with our Pretender-in-Chief was that their rules of engagement kept changing daily and that they were not permitted to do anything against our enemy if there were civilians in the vicinity. Just sit back and hope you weren’t next on the hit list. IMO, Mr. “Fire-Up, Ready-To-Go”, should already be gone.

outnumberedinparadise on September 26, 2009 at 4:54 PM

McChrystal’s report should be a key part of those considerations, since the strategic considerations rely on having the force strength required to support the strategy.

McChrystal should be fired. He’s a dangerous ideologue, and his report is nothing been a strategy manual on how to best get American soldiers killed.

2Brave2Bscared on September 26, 2009 at 4:54 PM

The Pentagon says they will hold his request, officially, until Obama officially makes an official decision about the officially official policy he wants to officially pursue in the war:…

I’m late to the game today, and somebody has probably already addressed this issue, but I really need to ask: what is Barack H. Obama’s definition of “officially”?

Yoop on September 26, 2009 at 5:00 PM

I heard that the Precedent loves waffles morning, noon and night!

chickasaw42 on September 26, 2009 at 5:06 PM

He has until 1 Dec to decide. That provides the 90-days notice of deployment and the month transit time. Until the forces are shifted from Iraq, we so not have them for Afghan and that is after the elections are over…

DJ Elliott on September 26, 2009 at 5:06 PM

This incompetent has never owned a tough decision in his life and now he has to as CiC.

RadClown on September 26, 2009 at 4:51 PM

Obama has yet to come anywhere near operating at his pay grade of CiC.

Rahm still has him sporting the training wheels. The sign on his desk in the Oval Office says “The Present [vote] Stops Here”.

Yoop on September 26, 2009 at 5:09 PM

Oh, noooo. The Libtards on the web assured us months ago that Ozero was going to get these so-called terrorist SOBs because Bush was too much of a dummy to do so.

How can hundreds of rabid Leftists be wrong?

Dr. ZhivBlago on September 26, 2009 at 5:10 PM

Obama:

“I vote present…”
Seven Percent Solution on September 26, 2009 at 1:45 PM

More likely Obama is MIA.

docdave on September 26, 2009 at 5:10 PM

These are Marines. They are performing their duty in a way none of the armchair wannabee soldiers castigating them here can comprehend. Sometimes you shoot, sometimes you talk, and if you can talk and avoid shooting, that’s cool. And if a headscarf helps with the talking, so be it.

If you want to cross out the word Proud to puff yourselves up in your own minds, go ahead. Those of us who recognize the mission will hold our laughter — at you.

unclesmrgol on September 26, 2009 at 4:53 PM

Typical neocon rhetoric. Disagreement with what’s going on in Afghanistan/Iraq is almost paramount to treason in their minds. Like leftists and their employment of the racism charge, neocons love to silence their critics (even those of us on the conservative right) with accusations of cowardice and/or not being patriotic.

We all want the same basic things here. Namely that our enemies are silenced and our troops aren’t unnecessarily put in harms way.

This should be an issue where level-headed people can disagree without each other’s patriotism, courage and/or “determination to win” being called into question. The fact that you and others stoop to such levels is despicable. You should be ashamed.

2Brave2Bscared on September 26, 2009 at 5:10 PM

MB4 on September 26, 2009 at 2:57 PM

It’s a shame you and I are seemingly the only two people here reading Diana West.

2Brave2Bscared on September 26, 2009 at 5:12 PM

If you thought Obama bowed to Saudi? Think again.

Key West Reader on September 26, 2009 at 5:18 PM

We all want the same basic things here. Namely that our enemies are silenced and our troops aren’t unnecessarily put in harms way.

2Brave2Bscared on September 26, 2009 at 5:10 PM

Do “we”? I don’t see that in your response. Not at all. I see the lips moving, but no action. From these Marines, wannabee, I see action, and if that action requires wearing a headscarf, so be it.

I do read Diana West just before lining my cat box. Same for Ron Paul.

unclesmrgol on September 26, 2009 at 5:21 PM

So I guess Stanley will be turning in his Retirement Papers.

I Salute Gen. McChrystal for his service as I Salute all of the men and Women defending this country.

Hussein and Posse of Clowns………I am ashamed of you!

BigMike252 on September 26, 2009 at 5:23 PM

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