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	<title>Comments on: No surprise: Western intel has known about secret Iranian nuke site for years</title>
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		<title>By: Sarah was right on Missile Defense, now all we can do is watch the showdown. &#171; Sarah Palin Information Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah was right on Missile Defense, now all we can do is watch the showdown. &#171; Sarah Palin Information Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 02:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] commercial plane crashes and washed down rivers as well as almost drowned three different times. This is more adrenaline pumping than any of those. Especially since we, as in the United States, have known about it for years. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] commercial plane crashes and washed down rivers as well as almost drowned three different times. This is more adrenaline pumping than any of those. Especially since we, as in the United States, have known about it for years. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: PoliGazette &#187; Western Intelligence Knew About Qom Reactor &#8220;For Years&#8221;</title>
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		<dc:creator>PoliGazette &#187; Western Intelligence Knew About Qom Reactor &#8220;For Years&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 16:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] they only broke the news this week, Western intelligence agencies did in fact know about Iran&#8217;s second nuclear facility for years. The LA Times, Fox News and Newsweek all say they discovered the reactor located near Qom in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] they only broke the news this week, Western intelligence agencies did in fact know about Iran&#8217;s second nuclear facility for years. The LA Times, Fox News and Newsweek all say they discovered the reactor located near Qom in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dark-Star</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dark-Star</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 14:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It figures. 

We know where they are and what they&#039;re up to...but we&#039;re too spineless to do something about it.

Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It figures. </p>
<p>We know where they are and what they&#8217;re up to&#8230;but we&#8217;re too spineless to do something about it.</p>
<p>Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.</p>
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		<title>By: R Square</title>
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		<dc:creator>R Square</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Friendly21 on September 26, 2009 at 8:35 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Perhaps, tho&#039; I tend to believe they are more inclined to attempt to have it both ways by enabling rogue actors/terrorists with nuclear material for a high quality dirty bomb attack. Iran doesn&#039;t have the delivery mechanism to hit the US without the use of some unconventional methodologies. WOuld Israel launch a nuclear attack on Iran in the aftermath of a dirty bomb explosion in Tel Aviv? I don&#039;t know....but this is the sort of complication that would leave the US sitting on its hands under this president.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Friendly21 on September 26, 2009 at 8:35 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>Perhaps, tho&#8217; I tend to believe they are more inclined to attempt to have it both ways by enabling rogue actors/terrorists with nuclear material for a high quality dirty bomb attack. Iran doesn&#8217;t have the delivery mechanism to hit the US without the use of some unconventional methodologies. WOuld Israel launch a nuclear attack on Iran in the aftermath of a dirty bomb explosion in Tel Aviv? I don&#8217;t know&#8230;.but this is the sort of complication that would leave the US sitting on its hands under this president.</p>
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		<title>By: R Square</title>
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		<dc:creator>R Square</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny observation that both Ahmadinejad and Obama made their bones as community agitators and continue to use the language of agitation. Both have unconstrained visions of their place in history and the rationalization of the power of the state to compel their vision on others. In the language of Hoffer, they are both true believers. Both tyrannical in instinct and seperated only by degree. 

Hard vs soft tyrannies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny observation that both Ahmadinejad and Obama made their bones as community agitators and continue to use the language of agitation. Both have unconstrained visions of their place in history and the rationalization of the power of the state to compel their vision on others. In the language of Hoffer, they are both true believers. Both tyrannical in instinct and seperated only by degree. </p>
<p>Hard vs soft tyrannies.</p>
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		<title>By: Friendly21</title>
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		<dc:creator>Friendly21</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;and (c) leaves Iran with little to lose in going public with the fact that they’ve got the bomb once they’ve got it, which will humiliate the western powers who tried to stop them with sanctions and will immediately force a crisis with Israel...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

(c) Iran with little to lose and Paradise beckoning - once they’ve got the bomb, they will use it. They will never just &quot;show it off&quot; to humiliate any one. They will strike Tel Aviv, Rome, and NYC - all stated intentions... the only delays will come in the perfection of their solid fuel missile delivery systems - both ground and sea launched versions.

When those systems are perfected to Iranian satisfaction, their annoncement that they have the bomb will be plain as day. And WWIII will begin in ernest. A side effect will be Hussein&#039;s suspension of the Constitution, and declaration of his status as President for the duration.

This is why Hussein stated he is not interested in victory - victory is the end of a crisis, not the beginning. Allowing Iran to get the bomb, through seemingly nieve political moves, is a policy to an end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>and (c) leaves Iran with little to lose in going public with the fact that they’ve got the bomb once they’ve got it, which will humiliate the western powers who tried to stop them with sanctions and will immediately force a crisis with Israel&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>(c) Iran with little to lose and Paradise beckoning &#8211; once they’ve got the bomb, they will use it. They will never just &#8220;show it off&#8221; to humiliate any one. They will strike Tel Aviv, Rome, and NYC &#8211; all stated intentions&#8230; the only delays will come in the perfection of their solid fuel missile delivery systems &#8211; both ground and sea launched versions.</p>
<p>When those systems are perfected to Iranian satisfaction, their annoncement that they have the bomb will be plain as day. And WWIII will begin in ernest. A side effect will be Hussein&#8217;s suspension of the Constitution, and declaration of his status as President for the duration.</p>
<p>This is why Hussein stated he is not interested in victory &#8211; victory is the end of a crisis, not the beginning. Allowing Iran to get the bomb, through seemingly nieve political moves, is a policy to an end.</p>
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		<title>By: karl9000</title>
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		<dc:creator>karl9000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, hats off to Barry though I suspect he rather tripped into the right decision here. There really wasn&#039;t much choice.

The rel test comes in what he actually does when Iran pushed back. Barry talks tough, but I don&#039;t recognize any steel behind it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, hats off to Barry though I suspect he rather tripped into the right decision here. There really wasn&#8217;t much choice.</p>
<p>The rel test comes in what he actually does when Iran pushed back. Barry talks tough, but I don&#8217;t recognize any steel behind it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaibones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaibones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;As shocking as it is to think of him getting tough with anyone...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Dude, are you seriously this gullible?  There are mountains of evidence as to Obama&#039;s fecklessness, weakness, and lack of interest in anything that happens outside of major metropolitan America.  He doesn&#039;t care what happens in Peoria, much less Natanz.

To twist a story from Newsweak, for heaven&#039;s sake, into some scenario for a savvy Obama play against Iran is utterly ridiculous.  Unpersuasive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>As shocking as it is to think of him getting tough with anyone&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Dude, are you seriously this gullible?  There are mountains of evidence as to Obama&#8217;s fecklessness, weakness, and lack of interest in anything that happens outside of major metropolitan America.  He doesn&#8217;t care what happens in Peoria, much less Natanz.</p>
<p>To twist a story from Newsweak, for heaven&#8217;s sake, into some scenario for a savvy Obama play against Iran is utterly ridiculous.  Unpersuasive.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. ZhivBlago</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. ZhivBlago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, tut tut...terrrrut.

There are no WMD anywhere in the Middle East you Nazi, Neo-Cons.  Get a grip.

/sarc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, tut tut&#8230;terrrrut.</p>
<p>There are no WMD anywhere in the Middle East you Nazi, Neo-Cons.  Get a grip.</p>
<p>/sarc</p>
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		<title>By: albill</title>
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		<dc:creator>albill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 11:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the US knew it, the Russians knew it before or the same time as the US.  The Russians have lots of people working in Iran = lots of spies.
The Russians and the Chinese are not going to support any tough meaningful sanctions; i.e. cut of gasoline supplies.

Obama announcing this &quot;discovery&quot; means little. Within days or weeks it will be watered down or forgotten. It was more a &quot;tough guy&quot; tactic for the meeting in Geneva next week.

All Iran has to do is bluster, fluster and agitate and Obama will back down.

Iran just needs more time...they will get it from Obama. Obama is more interested in being the &quot;Nixon of Iran&quot; - he will open the doors to a new (nuclear-tipped) Iran.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the US knew it, the Russians knew it before or the same time as the US.  The Russians have lots of people working in Iran = lots of spies.<br />
The Russians and the Chinese are not going to support any tough meaningful sanctions; i.e. cut of gasoline supplies.</p>
<p>Obama announcing this &#8220;discovery&#8221; means little. Within days or weeks it will be watered down or forgotten. It was more a &#8220;tough guy&#8221; tactic for the meeting in Geneva next week.</p>
<p>All Iran has to do is bluster, fluster and agitate and Obama will back down.</p>
<p>Iran just needs more time&#8230;they will get it from Obama. Obama is more interested in being the &#8220;Nixon of Iran&#8221; &#8211; he will open the doors to a new (nuclear-tipped) Iran.</p>
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		<title>By: amr</title>
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		<dc:creator>amr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 11:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;. . . . destroys any remaining pretense in useful-idiot circles that Iran’s program might be peaceful or that they&#039;ve been forthcoming, . . . &quot;  I don&#039;t think so.  The useful idiots in this country wouldn&#039;t believe they have nuclear weapons if they displayed one over Israel.  

We need a repeat of the 1988 Tanker War.  But I doubt if this President has the backbone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;. . . . destroys any remaining pretense in useful-idiot circles that Iran’s program might be peaceful or that they&#8217;ve been forthcoming, . . . &#8221;  I don&#8217;t think so.  The useful idiots in this country wouldn&#8217;t believe they have nuclear weapons if they displayed one over Israel.  </p>
<p>We need a repeat of the 1988 Tanker War.  But I doubt if this President has the backbone.</p>
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		<title>By: hillbillyjim</title>
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		<dc:creator>hillbillyjim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 11:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The idiot Democrats who are blocking drilling for our own oil offshore and in Alaska are endangering our national security and what&#039;s left of our economy.

Drill here. Drill now. 

Better late than never.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idiot Democrats who are blocking drilling for our own oil offshore and in Alaska are endangering our national security and what&#8217;s left of our economy.</p>
<p>Drill here. Drill now. </p>
<p>Better late than never.</p>
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		<title>By: Baxter Greene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baxter Greene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MY prediction is that the international community and the UN will have as much success stopping Ahmadenijad from getting the bomb as they did in:


&lt;em&gt;
 Stopping N. Korea&#039;s nuclear ambitions and missile development&lt;/em&gt;


&lt;em&gt; Sanctions against Iraq (oil for food)&lt;/em&gt;



&lt;em&gt; Stopping genocide in Darfur&lt;/em&gt;



&lt;em&gt; Stopping genocide in Rwanda&lt;/em&gt;



&lt;em&gt; Preventing terrorism from spreading throughout the world&lt;/em&gt;



&lt;em&gt; Stopping genocide in Bosnia&lt;/em&gt;



&lt;em&gt; Stopping any war from happening&lt;/em&gt;


&lt;em&gt;
 Stopping UN relief workers from raping women and children&lt;/em&gt;


&lt;em&gt;
 Stopping Hezbollah and Hamas from being armed to the teeth from Syria and Iran&lt;/em&gt;


 &lt;em&gt;Stopping the indiscriminate slaughter of innocent Iranians by their government because the people want credible elections &lt;/em&gt;

 just to name a few.

 I am going out on a limb here but history shows the UN to have a record of nothing but failure in stopping dictators and terrorist regimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MY prediction is that the international community and the UN will have as much success stopping Ahmadenijad from getting the bomb as they did in:</p>
<p><em><br />
 Stopping N. Korea&#8217;s nuclear ambitions and missile development</em></p>
<p><em> Sanctions against Iraq (oil for food)</em></p>
<p><em> Stopping genocide in Darfur</em></p>
<p><em> Stopping genocide in Rwanda</em></p>
<p><em> Preventing terrorism from spreading throughout the world</em></p>
<p><em> Stopping genocide in Bosnia</em></p>
<p><em> Stopping any war from happening</em></p>
<p><em><br />
 Stopping UN relief workers from raping women and children</em></p>
<p><em><br />
 Stopping Hezbollah and Hamas from being armed to the teeth from Syria and Iran</em></p>
<p> <em>Stopping the indiscriminate slaughter of innocent Iranians by their government because the people want credible elections </em></p>
<p> just to name a few.</p>
<p> I am going out on a limb here but history shows the UN to have a record of nothing but failure in stopping dictators and terrorist regimes.</p>
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		<title>By: elduende</title>
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		<dc:creator>elduende</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 01:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;R Square on September 25, 2009 at 9:35 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

yeah right. The seeds planted by one disastrous POTUS have now borne fruit under this disastrous POTUS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>R Square on September 25, 2009 at 9:35 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>yeah right. The seeds planted by one disastrous POTUS have now borne fruit under this disastrous POTUS.</p>
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		<title>By: R Square</title>
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		<dc:creator>R Square</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 01:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>elduende on September 25, 2009 at 9:29 PM

How much debt were the Chinese buying in 1979? Maybe Ji-may Caatah was just omniscient...that would also help explain his uncanny ability to know who is a racist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>elduende on September 25, 2009 at 9:29 PM</p>
<p>How much debt were the Chinese buying in 1979? Maybe Ji-may Caatah was just omniscient&#8230;that would also help explain his uncanny ability to know who is a racist.</p>
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		<title>By: mbs</title>
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		<dc:creator>mbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 01:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;There is only one possible answer: President Obama does not have the political will to do what it takes to prevent an Iranian nuclear bomb.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s a given.  Unfortunately at this point I&#039;m not sure anyone has the will to stop Iran from developing a nuclear bomb. I hope to be proven wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>There is only one possible answer: President Obama does not have the political will to do what it takes to prevent an Iranian nuclear bomb.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s a given.  Unfortunately at this point I&#8217;m not sure anyone has the will to stop Iran from developing a nuclear bomb. I hope to be proven wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: R Square</title>
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		<dc:creator>R Square</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 01:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The chance of Taiwanese air force getting new F-16s has dropped to nil. Not that it was ever good anyway.

year_of_the_dingo on September 25, 2009 at 9:18 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hey, we could send them the F-22! Those things are great and would be perfect for.....oh, wait a minute.....never mind. 

But at least we could....never mind....that&#039;s gone too..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The chance of Taiwanese air force getting new F-16s has dropped to nil. Not that it was ever good anyway.</p>
<p>year_of_the_dingo on September 25, 2009 at 9:18 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Hey, we could send them the F-22! Those things are great and would be perfect for&#8230;..oh, wait a minute&#8230;..never mind. </p>
<p>But at least we could&#8230;.never mind&#8230;.that&#8217;s gone too..</p>
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		<title>By: elduende</title>
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		<dc:creator>elduende</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 01:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;year_of_the_dingo on September 25, 2009 at 9:18 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

When the Chinese became a major creditor of ours Taiwan ran out of luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>year_of_the_dingo on September 25, 2009 at 9:18 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>When the Chinese became a major creditor of ours Taiwan ran out of luck.</p>
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		<title>By: year_of_the_dingo</title>
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		<dc:creator>year_of_the_dingo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 01:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The chance of Taiwanese air force getting new F-16s has dropped to nil. Not that it was ever good anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The chance of Taiwanese air force getting new F-16s has dropped to nil. Not that it was ever good anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: elduende</title>
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		<dc:creator>elduende</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 01:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Wethal on September 25, 2009 at 8:59 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;


All I know is that it looks like somebody got spooked today and both Obama and Ahmadinejad were caught flatfooted by it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Wethal on September 25, 2009 at 8:59 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>All I know is that it looks like somebody got spooked today and both Obama and Ahmadinejad were caught flatfooted by it.</p>
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		<title>By: R Square</title>
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		<dc:creator>R Square</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 01:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;year_of_the_dingo on September 25, 2009 at 8:50 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I agree. China and Russia would prefer tensions to rise. Obama is seen as a weak president and the more tension the more leverage/concessions can be wrung out of the US without really doing much to change the ground game. The only wild card are the Israelis.

If the Israelis bomb Iran the straights of Hormuz will be closed to oil exportation in short order. Iran has fleets of mine laying speed boats who will become very active in the region and commercial carriers will face problems with their insurance underwriters. US mine clearing is very effective but it takes time and more mines are easily placed in the shipping lanes.  

I don’t have Stratfor’s reports handy but I would encourage folks to read Friedman’s ongoing take on the situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>year_of_the_dingo on September 25, 2009 at 8:50 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>I agree. China and Russia would prefer tensions to rise. Obama is seen as a weak president and the more tension the more leverage/concessions can be wrung out of the US without really doing much to change the ground game. The only wild card are the Israelis.</p>
<p>If the Israelis bomb Iran the straights of Hormuz will be closed to oil exportation in short order. Iran has fleets of mine laying speed boats who will become very active in the region and commercial carriers will face problems with their insurance underwriters. US mine clearing is very effective but it takes time and more mines are easily placed in the shipping lanes.  </p>
<p>I don’t have Stratfor’s reports handy but I would encourage folks to read Friedman’s ongoing take on the situation.</p>
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		<title>By: year_of_the_dingo</title>
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		<dc:creator>year_of_the_dingo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 01:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even the NY Times said that the presser was &quot;hastily arranged&quot;. It wasn&#039;t a well-played hand, but damage control. 

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/26/world/middleeast/26nuke.html?_r=3&amp;hp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even the NY Times said that the presser was &#8220;hastily arranged&#8221;. It wasn&#8217;t a well-played hand, but damage control. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/26/world/middleeast/26nuke.html?_r=3&#038;hp" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/26/world/middleeast/26nuke.html?_r=3&#038;hp</a></p>
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		<title>By: canopfor</title>
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		<dc:creator>canopfor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 01:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We devour Iran like a falcon in the dive!

PercyB on September 25, 2009 at 8:14 PM

PercyB: Thanks PercyB:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We devour Iran like a falcon in the dive!</p>
<p>PercyB on September 25, 2009 at 8:14 PM</p>
<p>PercyB: Thanks PercyB:)</p>
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		<title>By: R Square</title>
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		<dc:creator>R Square</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 01:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George Friedman at Stratfor has been following this for some time and released a couple of good reports earlier this month. 

This whole thing was known and telegraphed in advance. Earlier in the month Venezuela pledged 20,000 barrels of gas per day in the event of sanctions. Not a huge amount but the gasoline would obviously be directed to govt/military usage. 

Nothing is going to come from sanctions. Zip. Russia has provided advanced air defense systems like the S-300. Iran also has beefed up its stockpile of sophisticated mines which can be quickly and easily deployed in advance then armed remotely. 

Russia will pay some lip service to the call for a tougher reaction to Iran as a token payback/cover for Obama but they have no interest in doing anything substantial. 

So what if sanctions are imposed and Iran becomes more bellicose.  Cui bono? Why oil exporters of course. More specifically, major oil exporters who are not located in the middle east....er...Venezuela and Russia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George Friedman at Stratfor has been following this for some time and released a couple of good reports earlier this month. </p>
<p>This whole thing was known and telegraphed in advance. Earlier in the month Venezuela pledged 20,000 barrels of gas per day in the event of sanctions. Not a huge amount but the gasoline would obviously be directed to govt/military usage. </p>
<p>Nothing is going to come from sanctions. Zip. Russia has provided advanced air defense systems like the S-300. Iran also has beefed up its stockpile of sophisticated mines which can be quickly and easily deployed in advance then armed remotely. </p>
<p>Russia will pay some lip service to the call for a tougher reaction to Iran as a token payback/cover for Obama but they have no interest in doing anything substantial. </p>
<p>So what if sanctions are imposed and Iran becomes more bellicose.  Cui bono? Why oil exporters of course. More specifically, major oil exporters who are not located in the middle east&#8230;.er&#8230;Venezuela and Russia.</p>
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		<title>By: Wethal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wethal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 01:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;year_of_the_dingo on September 25, 2009 at 8:50 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I believe Timmy Turbotax was to announce China&#039;s entry or upgraded role in the IMF or World Bank soon. Gotta suck to keep them buying our bonds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>year_of_the_dingo on September 25, 2009 at 8:50 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>I believe Timmy Turbotax was to announce China&#8217;s entry or upgraded role in the IMF or World Bank soon. Gotta suck to keep them buying our bonds.</p>
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